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1 | Azur Lane EN PvP Guide | |||||||||||||||
2 | The all-in-one PvP guide / fleet tierlist, strictly for EN servers. | |||||||||||||||
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4 | Short Link for Sharing: https://cutt.ly/azur-lane-pvp-guide | |||||||||||||||
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6 | Come join the Azur Lane EN PvP Guide Server! https://discord.gg/HahgBcSdaE | |||||||||||||||
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8 | DISCLAIMERS | |||||||||||||||
9 | This guide assumes the following: | |||||||||||||||
10 | 1) You are already familiar with the Exercises page on the Azur Lane Wiki. If not, you can find it here: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Exercise | |||||||||||||||
11 | 2) You play on an EN server. (Also known as Azur Lane Global). These are currently: Avrora, Sandy, Washington, Lexington, Amagi, Little Enterprise. | |||||||||||||||
12 | 3) Fleet Tiering is based on overall (weighted average) ATTACK WINRATE against current meta environment. Other factors like speed of matches will be noted but won't directly affect the tiering. | |||||||||||||||
13 | 4) The Tier List is not exhaustive and there are many other viable fleet comps you can create. Only the most common and influential are listed for convenience and discussion. | |||||||||||||||
14 | 5) All ships in the fleet comps shown on the tier list are maximum level and maximum PR/DR development level. | |||||||||||||||
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16 | Without any further ado... Please venture on into the next tab, commander. Inazuma will guide you there. | |||||||||||||||
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25 | If you encounter any issues with this list or wish to participate in tiering discussions, feel free to voice your opinions on our discord in the #pvp-help channel on our discord server. | |||||||||||||||
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A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | |
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1 | Changelog | |||||||||||
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4 | 2024 | |||||||||||
5 | 17/10 Updated vanguard recommendations for Snowmen (T0) and SEMEN (T3). Updated the main fleet gear section. Retiered the following fleets: - 3BB - "ARSE" (Tier 3 --> Tier 1) | |||||||||||
6 | 27/09 Added the following fleet- 3BB - "I lost the game" (Tier 1) | |||||||||||
7 | 07/09 Added Eldridge (Retrofit) to the sheet. Added various Eldridge related vanguard compositions to the main tier list. Updated Newbie/Budget fleets section to account for Eldridge (Retrofit). Updated Newbie/Budget fleets section to account for Daedalian Hymn going to War Archives. Retiered the following fleets: - 3BB - "Heisenberg" (Tier 1 --> Tier 0) - 3BB - "Snowmen" (Tier 2 --> Tier 0) - 3BB - "AMV" (Tier 0 --> Tier 2) - 3BB - "Stepmom" (Tier 2 --> Tier 3) - 3BB - "ARSE" (Tier 1 --> Tier 3) Archived the following fleets: - 3BB - "Fumos" (Tier 3) | |||||||||||
8 | 17/08 Updated Meta Museum. Added Anson Memorial. | |||||||||||
9 | 30/07 Updated the landing page for the first time ages. Improved the disclaimers on both the landing page and the Tier List. Improved some wording on the Sandbagging Guide. Updated the Gear Breakdown sheet's descriptions. | |||||||||||
10 | 19/07 Added the following fleets: - 3BB - "AMV" (Tier 0) Other Changes: - Added some more relevant comps to the Newbie/Budget section due to Vanguard's rerun. - Fixed Shimakaze being in the wrong section in the Newbie/Budget fleet. | |||||||||||
11 | 13/07 Added the following fleets: - 3BB - "The Lil' E Comp" (Tier 1) Retiered the following fleets: - 3BB - "Stepmom" (Tier 1 --> Tier 2) Other Changes: - Added Shimakaze to the Newbie/Budget section (as she will be added to the base game after the next maintenance). - Improved some of the Newbie/Budget recommendations. | |||||||||||
12 | 12/06 Added new DD guns to the Vanguard gear sheet. | |||||||||||
13 | 07/06 Simplified Laffey II's gearing setup due to the shift in the meta making Manjuu BiS. | |||||||||||
14 | 06/06 Added the following fleets: - 3BB - "GoT" (Tier 0) - 3BB - "Nam" (Tier 1) - 3BB - "ARSE" (Tier 1) Retiered the following fleets: - 3BB - "Heisenberg" (Tier 0 --> Tier 1) - 3BB - "Stepmom" (Tier 0 --> Tier 1) - 2.5BB - "Musk" (Tier 1 --> Tier 2) - 3BB - "Snowmen" (Tier 1 --> Tier 2) - 3BB - "Movies" (Tier 1 --> Tier 2) - 3BB - "SEMEN" (Tier 2 --> Tier 3) - 3BB - "Fumos" (Tier 2 --> Tier 3) Archived the following fleets: - 3BB - "MILF" (Tier 0) - 2.5BB - "Monkey" (Tier 2) - 2.5BB - "MK Villain" (Tier 2) - 2.5BB - "Fresh SEMEN" (Tier 3) - 2.5BB - "VIRGIN" (Tier 3) - 3BB - "OriginalMK" (Tier 3) Other Changes: - Greatly reworked the recommended vanguard comps. - Added Alsace to the Main Fleet gear section. - Added some Alsace comps to the Newbie/Budget fleets section. - Improved the Newbie/Budget fleets section by suggesting Laffey II alternatives. - Removed Bismarck Zwei and UvH from the Main Fleet gear section. | |||||||||||
15 | 16/05 Updated Vanguard Gear section. | |||||||||||
16 | 03/05 Updated Gear Breakdown section. | |||||||||||
17 | 21/03 Added the following fleets: - 3BB - "GSpot" (Tier 0) 14/03 Added the following fleets: - 3BB - "Heisenberg" (Tier 0) - 3BB - "Musk" (Tier 1) - 3BB - "Snowmen" (Tier 1) - 3BB - "Movies" (Tier 1) - 3BB - "Fumos" (Tier 2) Retiered the following fleets: - 3BB - "SEMEN" (Tier 1 --> Tier 2) - 2.5BB - "Monkey" (Tier 0 --> Tier 1) - 3BB - "MK Villain" (Tier 0 --> Tier 2) - 3BB - "OriginalMK" (Tier 1 --> Tier 2) - 3BB - "VIRGIN" (Tier 1 --> Tier 3) - 2.5BB - "Fresh SEMEN" (Tier 1 --> Tier 3) Archived the following fleets: - 2BB - "HYMEN" (Tier 2) - 1.5BB - "MK Hero" (Tier 2) - 1.5BB - "KENNY" (Tier 2) - 1.5BB - "KEN-A" (Tier 3) - 2CV - "Mongolian Preload" (Tier 3) Other Changes: - Added Soyuz to the main fleet gear section. - Added Soyuz fleet suggestions to the Newbie/Budget section. - Removed legacy loadouts from Laffey II in the gear section. | |||||||||||
18 | 22/02 Fixed images not loading in the gear section. | |||||||||||
19 | 05/02 Improved the Main Fleet gear section by adding another column to the aux slots and reorganising them by Recommended/Alternative in each column. Removed "Mob Van" (Untiered) because it's terrible and nobody should use it. Added some additional stuff to the Gear Breakdown section such as 550HP auxes. Cleaned up a lot of orphaned images/links so pages should load faster. | |||||||||||
20 | 02/02 Updated the gear sections for both the Vanguard and Main Fleet to accommodate the maturing of the Laffey II meta and the new gear lab options. Added Vanguard Combos to the Augments sheet. Added the new "Gear Breakdown" Sheet, which addresses a lot of nuances in gearing for PvP. Retiered the following fleets: - 1.5BB - "KEN-A" (Tier 1 --> Tier 3) - 3BB - "BDSM" (Tier 3 --> Tier 2) - 1.5BB - "KENNY" (Tier 1 --> Tier 2) - 3BB - "SEMEN" (Tier 2 --> Tier 1) - 2.5BB - "Fresh SEMEN" (Tier 2 --> Tier 1) - 2.5BB - "VIRGIN" (Tier 2 --> Tier 1) - 1.5BB - "MK Hero" (Tier 1 --> Tier 2) - 2BB - "HYMEN" (Tier 1 --> Tier 2) Added the following fleets: - 3BB - "MILF" (Tier 0) - 3BB - "OriginalMK" (Tier 1) | |||||||||||
21 | 18/01 Updated the Newbie/Budget Fleets section because of New Jersey and Shinano being added to the base banners. Unified title header block colours as Grey with Font Size 24. Your eyes should no longer explode upon seeing certain pages. Renamed "Meta History + Fleet Archive" to "Meta Museum" and made it an appendix. Appendices will now be marked by "[A]" in their sheet titles. Reorganised some sheet positions, most notably the Changelog sheet. | |||||||||||
22 | 08/01 "MSN (New Version)" (Untiered --> Tier 2) | |||||||||||
23 | 02/01 Retiered the following fleets: - 2.5BB - "Monkey" (Tier 1 --> Tier 0) - 1.5BB - "MK Hero" (Tier 0 --> Tier 1) - 2BB - "HYMEN" (Tier 0 --> Tier 1) - 1.5BB - "KENNY" (Tier 0 --> Tier 1) - 2.5BB - "MK Villain" (Tier 1 --> Tier 0) - 3BB - "SEMEN" (Tier 1 --> Tier 2) - 2.5BB - "Fresh SEMEN" (Tier 1 --> Tier 2) - 2.5BB - "VIRGIN" (Tier 2 --> Tier 3) Archived the following fleets: - 2BB - "GRIDMAN!!!" (Tier 3) - 3BB - "Triple Cowgirl" (Tier 3) - 2BB - "MSN (Old Version)" (Tier 3) - 2BB - "Gross HYMEN" (Tier 2) - 2BB - "ENVY" (Tier 1) Added the following fleets: - 3BB - "Stepmom" (Tier 0) - 2BB - "MSN (New Version)" (Untiered) Other Changes: - Updated the Meta History section to separate post-Biszwei fleets. - Updated the Newbie/Budget Fleets section to account for Laffey II. | |||||||||||
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26 | 2023 | |||||||||||
27 | 25/12 Added some preliminary stuff for Laffey II. Added some additional details to the sandbagging guide. Updated vanguard gear section to support Guam Gun. | |||||||||||
28 | 28/11 Updated some gear setups for vanguard fleets. | |||||||||||
29 | 20/11 Retiered the following fleets: - 1.5BB - "KENNY" (Tier 1 --> Tier 0) - 2.5BB - "MK Villain" (Tier 0 --> Tier 1) - 2.5BB - "Monkey" (Tier 0 --> Tier 1) - 3BB - "MILF" (Tier 2 --> Tier 3) - 2BB - "Gridman!!!!" (Tier 2 --> Tier 3) - 2.5BB - "VIRGIN" (Tier 1 --> Tier 2) Added the following fleet: - 1.5BB - "KEN A" (Untiered --> Tier 1) Archived the following fleets: - "Meeb" (Tier 3 --> Archived) | |||||||||||
30 | 15/11 Improved the Newbie/Budget section to have more detailed Jintsuu META/Fortune META alternatives. Added a few generalised Returning Player comps to the Newbie/Budget section. Added some new fleets to the experimental section on the main tier list. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Fixed numerous typos (Thanks Cad). | |||||||||||
31 | 11/11 Added "Triple Invuln" (Tier 2). Added vanguard recommendations for players who missed both Jintsuu META and Fortune META to the newbie/budget section. Added a bunch of old fleets to the Meta History section. Added mention of hotfixes before resets to the Sandbagging section. Fixed some outdated descriptions in the Main Fleet gear section. | |||||||||||
32 | 02/11 Adjusted the following fleet tiers: - 2BB - "HYMEN" (Increased to Tier 0 from Tier 1). - 1.5BB - "Fresh SEMEN" (Decreased to Tier 1 from Tier 0). - 3BB - "BDSM" (Increased to Tier 2 from Tier 3). Added the following fleets to the tier list: - 2CV - "Mongolian Preload" (Tier 3). Other Changes: - Updated positioning recommendations for all HYMEN based fleets (Hiryuu flag is no longer required). - Hoisted up Kearsarge and Jintsuu META in their respective gear sections to give them easier visibility. Bug Fixes: - Fixed image sizes on the Gear (Modules) sheet. | |||||||||||
33 | 28/10 Updated the Augment modules sheet. Merged the Useful Links and Credits sheets. Reworked various sheets to be dark mode friendly. Added a Sandbagging Tutorial section to the Appendix. | |||||||||||
34 | 20/10 Improved vanguard fleet recommendations for the main tier list sheet. Greatly improved the Archived Fleets section. Slightly tweaked Kearsarge's gear recommendations. | |||||||||||
35 | 11/10 Added "Jam" to the glossary. Greatly improved the Newbie/Budget Fleets sheet. Unified all sheet fonts by changing them to Roboto. | |||||||||||
36 | 10/10 Renamed "Volkano" to "Virgin" as it was funnier. Updated vanguard gear recommendation descriptions to match the fact that Black Torp is farmable using War Archives. Improved CL gear recommendations. Removed Bf-109 from CV gear recommendations since there are simply many better options. | |||||||||||
37 | 07/10 Added a new fleet comp: "MK Hero" (Tier 0). Retiered the following fleet: "ENVY" (Decreased to Tier 1 from Tier 0) Renamed the following fleet: "MKV" --> "MK Villain". | |||||||||||
38 | 06/10 Giant update for PR6 and Jintsuu META - Added Prince of Wales, Flandre, and Kearsarge to the budget/new player comps as they are all permanent content (play at your own pace). - Added Unzen and Chise to the budget section as well since both ran recently. - Added gear loadouts for Fortune META. - Improved various details and such throughout the entire tier list. - Finalised gear loadouts for Kearsarge, Unzen, and Jintsuu META. Added the following new fleet comps to the tier list: - 2.5BB - "ENVY" (Tier 0) - 2.5BB - "Monkey" (Tier 0) - 2.5BB - "Fresh SEMEN" (Tier 0) - 2.5BB - "MKV" (Tier 0) - 1.5BB - "KENNY" (Tier 1) - 2.5BB - "Volkano" (Tier 1) The following fleets have been archived: - NJ/Musshi/UvH - Triple KMS - Axis Powers - MK Ultra - MK Alter - Fake HYMEN (adapted for new player/budget section) The following fleets have been re-tiered: - 2BB - "MSN" (Decreased to Tier 3 from Tier 0, Rest in Peace) - 2BB - "HYMEN" (Decreased to Tier 1 from Tier 0) - 2BB - "Gross HYMEN" (Reduced to Tier 2 from Tier 1) - 2BB - "Yakuza" (Decreased to Tier 2 from Tier 1) - 3BB - "MILF" (Decreased to Tier 2 from Tier 0) - 3BB - "SEMEN" (Decreased to Tier 1 from Tier 0) - 3BB - "Triple Cowgirl" (Decreased to Tier 3 from Tier 2) - 3BB - "BDSM" (Decreased to Tier 3 from Tier 2) | |||||||||||
39 | 19/09 Added Tier Q, the tier above Tier 0 (Higher ups responsible???) | |||||||||||
40 | Greatly improved the vanguard fleet recommendations for the main tier list. | |||||||||||
41 | Reorganized the Vanguard gear sheet by hull type (CA - DD - CL) | |||||||||||
42 | Added preliminary gear loadouts for Jintsuu META, Unzen, Felix Schultz, and Kearsarge. | |||||||||||
43 | Retiered the following fleet comps: - "SEMEN" (Increased to T0 from T1) - "Stepmom" (Increased to TQ from T0) | |||||||||||
44 | 31/08 Added Perseus to perma pool builds | |||||||||||
45 | 29/08 Fixed some typos, grammar, and clarified some explanations. | |||||||||||
46 | 26/08 Updated Main Fleet gear section. | |||||||||||
47 | Separated the Update dates for specific sheets. | |||||||||||
48 | 12/08 Added a Glossary section. | |||||||||||
49 | 28/07 Added Tamaki to the main fleet gear section. | |||||||||||
50 | Added some new fleet comps: - "GRIDMAN!!!! (T2)" - "Fake HYMEN (T2)" | |||||||||||
51 | Retiered the following fleets: - HYMEN (Increased to T0 from T1) - Gross HYMEN (Increased to T1 from T2) | |||||||||||
52 | 21/06 Added some new fleet comps: - "MK Alter" (T2) - "Blood & Iron" (T3) | |||||||||||
53 | Retiered the following fleets: - SEMEN (Increased to T1 from T2) - BDSM (Decreased to T2 from T1) | |||||||||||
54 | 17/06 Retiered pretty much the entire list due to obsolete fleets being removed. | |||||||||||
55 | Specific changes can be found below: - MSN (Increased to T0 from T1) - MK Ultra (Decreased to T1 from T0) - SEMEN (Decreased to T2 from T0) - Meeb (Decreased to T3 from T1) - Musashi/NJ/UvH (Decreased to T3 from T1) | |||||||||||
56 | Added preliminary Bismarck Zwei fleet comps to the tier list. | |||||||||||
57 | The new comps are: - BDSM (T1) - Gross HYMEN (T2) - Cowgirl (T2) - Axis Powers (T3) | |||||||||||
58 | 16/06 Moved obselete fleets to Archived Fleets tab | |||||||||||
59 | 15/06 Updated budget section and added extra information about airspace control in FAQ | |||||||||||
60 | 11/06 Greatly improved gear setups for Vanguard Equips (Gear Lab Update). | |||||||||||
61 | Added notes to the Vanguard Equips section. | |||||||||||
62 | Fixed Seattle not actually being in the Vanguard Equips section. | |||||||||||
63 | 04/06 Added preliminary gearing for Biz. | |||||||||||
64 | Removed some outdated gear options. | |||||||||||
65 | 14/05 Added new comps, "NSW" (T1) and "Mafia 2" (T2). | |||||||||||
66 | Added "Fairy Magic Poster" to the Mainfleet equips section. | |||||||||||
67 | 9/05 Added an invite to the Azur Lane EN PvP discord server. | |||||||||||
68 | 26/04 Added new vanguard color codes to tier list. | |||||||||||
69 | Improved vanguard options for various fleets. | |||||||||||
70 | 20/04 Fixed the wording about Seydlitz's skills. | |||||||||||
71 | Fixed some text formatting issues. | |||||||||||
72 | 19/04 Added new comp: "SEMEN" - Seydlitz/Musashi/NJ (T0). | |||||||||||
73 | Updated some descriptions. | |||||||||||
74 | Increased "MK Ultra" and all non-UvH "Triple BB" variants to T0 (from T1) | |||||||||||
75 | Reduced "Meeb", "MSN", and "HYMEN" to T1 (from T0) | |||||||||||
76 | Reduced "Weeb" to T2 (from T1) | |||||||||||
77 | 06/04 Removed Obselete sheets | |||||||||||
78 | 01/04 updated budget fleet section | |||||||||||
79 | 16/03 Fixed Richelieu not having icons in the Main Fleet Equips section. | |||||||||||
80 | Fixed SG Radar not having an icon in the Main Fleet Equips section. | |||||||||||
81 | 15/03 Added descriptions to the New Player comps. | |||||||||||
82 | Added new fleet comp to the tier list: "Triple BB" - Musashi/NJ/UvH (T1). | |||||||||||
83 | Added disclaimer to Untiered/Legacy section of the tier list. | |||||||||||
84 | Added Wirbel Luft to the Vanguard gearing options. | |||||||||||
85 | 14/03 Added new section for New Player comps. | |||||||||||
86 | Added descriptions to Vanguards in the main tier list. | |||||||||||
87 | Added 2 new fleet comps to the tier list: "Triple BB" - Musashi/NJ/FdG (T0) and "MK Ultra" (T1). | |||||||||||
88 | Updated various fleet descriptions & corrected some errors. | |||||||||||
89 | 25/01 Updated main fleet descriptions. | |||||||||||
90 | Corrected sheet formatting. | |||||||||||
91 | Removed some older fleets. | |||||||||||
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95 | 22/12 Updated Vanguard Equips tab | |||||||||||
96 | 21/12 Updated the link to Envy's EoS Score Tracker Sheets under Useful Links | |||||||||||
97 | 17/12 Added brief description for NJ in mainfleet equips | |||||||||||
98 | 24/11 Added Vanguard Equips tab | |||||||||||
99 | 23/10 Added Mainfleet Equips tab | |||||||||||
100 | 20/10 Begun revamping the sheets | |||||||||||
101 | Added a few Musashi fleets ("Otaku", "Musashi/NJ/Shinano", "Musashi/NJ/Hiryuu Kai", and "Yakuza") | |||||||||||
102 | Updated the "Triple BB" fleet to include Musashi | |||||||||||
103 | Adjusted a few fleet tierings temporarily | |||||||||||
104 | 04/09 Added budget fleets as a separate tab | |||||||||||
105 | Added Budget USS, Budget BB, Namagiryuu and Nakaga fleets | |||||||||||
106 | 06/07 Added "Triple BB" fleet to Fleet Analysis. | |||||||||||
107 | 05/07 Added "Mafia" fleet to Fleet Analysis. | |||||||||||
108 | 02/07 Added "America" fleet to Fleet Analysis. | |||||||||||
109 | Adjusted formatting of the sheets. | |||||||||||
110 | 29/06 Added "Zoomer" fleet (T0), moved "Wehraboo Defensive" fleet to T2. | |||||||||||
111 | Updated all fleets with new Augment Module slots. | |||||||||||
112 | Added hyperlink to fleetbuilder with all fleets. | |||||||||||
113 | Descriptions updated for all tiered fleets. | |||||||||||
114 | 18/06 Added "Zoomer Meta" (TU) and "Sniper" (TU) fleets. | |||||||||||
115 | Updated older fleets with the new Admiralty Fire Control Table aux. | |||||||||||
116 | 11/06 Created Modules tab. | |||||||||||
117 | 07/06 Added "Akaga" fleet to Fleet Analysis. | |||||||||||
118 | 06/06 Added Untiered tier, added "Weeb" (T1), "Teatime Terrors" (TU), and "Triple Preload" (TU) fleets. | |||||||||||
119 | Added description for "Tirple BB" and "Weeb" fleets. | |||||||||||
120 | 26/05 Added "Wehraboo Defensive" (T1) as well as description. | |||||||||||
121 | Added description for "Mafia" fleet. | |||||||||||
122 | Added Fleet Analysis tab. | |||||||||||
123 | 25/05 Added description for "America" fleet. | |||||||||||
124 | 24/05 Project start, sheet made, added "Mafia" (T0), "Triple BB" (T2), "America" (T3), and "Akaga" (T2) fleets. | |||||||||||
125 | Added description for "Akaga" fleet. | |||||||||||
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1 | BACKLINE FLEET | VANGUARD FLEET | |||||||||||||||||||
2 | Fleet Composition Tierlist | ||||||||||||||||||||
3 | Last Updated: 17/10/2024, most recent major event being Ode of Everblooming Crimson (Ended October 2nd, 2024) | ||||||||||||||||||||
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5 | PVP TIP: LOOK AT YOUR SCREEN OR YOU MIGHT LOSE! | ||||||||||||||||||||
6 | Disclaimer: In addition to the disclaimers on the landing page, this tier list assumes all ships have the same affection levels. (E.g. all oathed and 200 or all unoathed, etc.) This is especially important for fleet comps using multiple BBs, as RLD is affected by oathing. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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9 | Recent News | Notes | |||||||||||||||||||
10 | Eldy retro is good. Amagi (CV) is great... at losing. :^( | Vanguard Fleet Color Codes | Eldridge was probably the biggest meta shift since Soyuz. There may still be new vanguard comps we haven't discovered yet. Feel free to tell us on discord if you think you've found one better than the ones we've listed. | ||||||||||||||||||
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12 | Viable | ||||||||||||||||||||
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17 | 3BB - "Snowmen" | The "Duelist" vanguard composition. This vanguard setup gives up Jintsuu META's massive torpedo damage in exchange for additional tanking and mobility from Felix Schultz. In particular, her guns can quickly single out and eliminate an enemy Eldridge while Operation Rainbow is off cooldown, giving them an advantage in vanguard duels. But if your backline does not also win the BB salvo exchanges, this comp can quickly find itself stranded in an unwinnable situation, even if they have already won the vanguard duel. Seydlitz's synergy with Felix due to faction buffs makes this the best option for Snowmen against Eldridge comps. But it may struggle against older Juneau ones due to the aforementioned reliance on stalling to win the backline matchup. | |||||||||||||||||||
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23 | Laffey II | Felix Schultz | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
24 | Musashi | Soyuz | Seydlitz | The "Standard" vanguard composition. Once again, the meta has shifted with Juneau falling out of viability. Eldridge (Retrofit) works with both Laffey II and Jintsuu META to create a nearly unstoppable force of destruction. The only way to consistently defeat it is by having at the very least, an Eldridge and Laffey II yourself. The comp outstalls its previous iteration (using Juneau instead of Eldy retro) significantly. But like all things in this game, luck is a major factor. Mirror matches are decided entirely by whose Eldy dies first and the comp can sometimes just go poof because Eldy decided not to trigger Operation Rainbow. Overall, it is the strongest vanguard composition in the current meta. | |||||||||||||||||
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27 | WINTER IS COMING. A powerful fleet that originated on CN servers, this setup originally relied on using Seydlitz to pummel the enemy vanguard early in order to finish them off with the Musashi/Soyuz barrage combo afterward to ensure a quick victory but has since evolved. Due to her flexibility, Seydlitz can be used as both a budget Alsace (using HE guns) or as a more versatile New Jersey (her invulnerability skill frees up an extra equip slot and allows Laffey II to use manjuu) and her synergy with Felix Schultz can provide a pretty significant boost to her normally lackluster DPS. Backline fights are extremely harsh in this current meta, and surviving them is the key to consistent wins. Overall the three Tier 0 fleets are pretty even right now, though Snowmen remains the Jack of all Trades and definitely the safest overall option. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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30 | Laffey II | Jintsuu META | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
31 | The "Stall" vanguard composition. While previously, this setup used Juneau, she has been dropped in favour of the superior Eldridge retrofit. In particular, Elridge (Retrofit) has negative synergy with Juneau as she can delay her healing proc far beyond the necessary window for it to be useful, so a stall comp that drops Ancho for Juneau is simply not as effective. Anchorage also survives much longer than before as she can take advantage of Operation Rainbow's invulnerability, making for a very tough fight. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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37 | Anchorage | Laffey II | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
38 | The "Torpmemes" vanguard composition. It turns out that Eldy retro opens up a lot of possibilities for new vanguard setups, one of which is this extremely aggressive torpedo setup that gambles on Operation Rainbow triggering before Jintsuu META and Shimakaze die horribly to enemy preloads. 50% of the time, it works every time. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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45 | The "Speed Demon" vanguard composition. This is a very odd setup created by Ari Naotonemai that stacks speed to dodge out of practically everything (enemy torpedoes, Soyuz barrage, Musashi lightning, etc.) In the past, speed comps generally were not as viable due to the very real possibility of running face first into torps and dying. But Eldridge negates that and makes it more than just a wacky idea. It is worth noting, however, that dropping Jintsuu META is a significant loss in damage and thus a tradeoff of a major win condition in favour of potentially better vanguard survivability. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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54 | 3BB - "GoT" | The "Standard" vanguard composition. Once again, the meta has shifted with Juneau falling out of viability. Eldridge (Retrofit) works with both Laffey II and Jintsuu META to create a nearly unstoppable force of destruction. The only way to consistently defeat it is by having at the very least, an Eldridge and Laffey II yourself. The comp outstalls its previous iteration (using Juneau instead of Eldy retro) significantly. But like all things in this game, luck is a major factor. Mirror matches are decided entirely by whose Eldy dies first and the comp can sometimes just go poof because Eldy decided not to trigger Operation Rainbow. Overall, it is the strongest vanguard composition in the current meta. | |||||||||||||||||||
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60 | Laffey II | Jintsuu META | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
61 | Musashi | Soyuz | Alsace | The "Stall" vanguard composition. While previously, this setup used Juneau, she has been dropped in favour of the superior Eldridge retrofit. In particular, Elridge (Retrofit) has negative synergy with Juneau as she can delay her healing proc far beyond the necessary window for it to be useful, so a stall comp that drops Ancho for Juneau is simply not as effective. Anchorage also survives much longer than before as she can take advantage of Operation Rainbow's invulnerability, making for a very tough fight. | |||||||||||||||||
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64 | Soyuz shoots out icicles and Alsace burns everything. The name pretty much writes itself: A Song of Ice and Fire, which is the novel title of Game of Thrones (or GoT). Like everything else on this tier list that is good, Musashi + Soyuz is used for devastating barrage combos and backline nukes. The 3 UR BBs are also overall quite tanky compared to pretty much everything else in the game. Alsace's incredibly strong preload damage allows her to shred most vanguards with ease, and she has historically altered the meta by deleting Fortune META out of existence. Juneau was used for a few months to counteract this, but since the advent of Eldridge's retrofit, however, Alsace is much less consistent and thus GoT no long retains its original place as the be all, end all of the meta, now roughly equal to the other two Tier 0 fleets. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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67 | Anchorage | Laffey II | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
68 | The "Duelist" vanguard composition. This vanguard setup gives up Jintsuu META's massive torpedo damage in exchange for additional tanking and mobility from Felix Schultz. In particular, her guns can quickly single out and eliminate an enemy Eldridge while Operation Rainbow is off cooldown, giving them an advantage in vanguard duels. But if your backline does not also win the BB salvo exchanges, this comp can quickly find itself stranded in an unwinnable situation, even if they have already won the vanguard duel. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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74 | Laffey II | Felix Schultz | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
75 | The "Torpmemes" vanguard composition. It turns out that Eldy retro opens up a lot of possibilities for new vanguard setups, one of which is this extremely aggressive torpedo setup that gambles on Operation Rainbow triggering before Jintsuu META and Shimakaze die horribly to enemy preloads. 50% of the time, it works every time. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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82 | The "Speed Demon" vanguard composition. This is a very odd setup created by Ari Naotonemai that stacks speed to dodge out of practically everything (enemy torpedoes, Soyuz barrage, Musashi lightning, etc.) In the past, speed comps generally were not as viable due to the very real possibility of running face first into torps and dying. But Eldridge negates that and makes it more than just a wacky idea. It is worth noting, however, that dropping Jintsuu META is a significant loss in damage and thus a tradeoff of a major win condition in favour of potentially better vanguard survivability. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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91 | 3BB - "Heisenberg" | The "Standard" vanguard composition. Once again, the meta has shifted with Juneau falling out of viability. Eldridge (Retrofit) works with both Laffey II and Jintsuu META to create a nearly unstoppable force of destruction. The only way to consistently defeat it is by having at the very least, an Eldridge and Laffey II yourself. The comp outstalls its previous iteration (using Juneau instead of Eldy retro) significantly. But like all things in this game, luck is a major factor. Mirror matches are decided entirely by whose Eldy dies first and the comp can sometimes just go poof because Eldy decided not to trigger Operation Rainbow. Overall, it is the strongest vanguard composition in the current meta. | |||||||||||||||||||
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98 | Musashi | Soyuz | NJ | The "Stall" vanguard composition. While previously, this setup used Juneau, she has been dropped in favour of the superior Eldridge retrofit. In particular, Elridge (Retrofit) has negative synergy with Juneau as she can delay her healing proc far beyond the necessary window for it to be useful, so a stall comp that drops Ancho for Juneau is simply not as effective. Anchorage also survives much longer than before as she can take advantage of Operation Rainbow's invulnerability, making for a very tough fight. | |||||||||||||||||
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101 | Seeing as MSN and SEMEN were already taken by historical fleets, this fleet was named for "SMN = Say My Name". Now, let's begin cooking. Much like HMS Vanguard, Soyuz's barrage procs when she finishes loading, NOT when she fires. This means even if her gun jams with Musashi, the barrage will still proc as Musashi begins her lightning storm. This devastating combo often annihilates enemy vanguards and backlines alike, and is pretty much what drives all decent fleets on this tier list. Notably, her barrage can actually hit stealthed CVs, though it cannot directly target them. R.I.P CVs. New Jersey, in particular, has strong synergy with both Laffey II and Eldridge (Retrofit) due to their faction buffs and is a good overall backline unit. With Alsace weakened overall by Eldridge's retrofit, Heisenberg has made a triumphant return to Tier 0... But the difficult choice remains of whether to put Manjuu on New Jersey or Laffey II. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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105 | The "Duelist" vanguard composition. This vanguard setup gives up Jintsuu META's massive torpedo damage in exchange for additional tanking and mobility from Felix Schultz. In particular, her guns can quickly single out and eliminate an enemy Eldridge while Operation Rainbow is off cooldown, giving them an advantage in vanguard duels. But if your backline does not also win the BB salvo exchanges, this comp can quickly find itself stranded in an unwinnable situation, even if they have already won the vanguard duel. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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112 | The "Torpmemes" vanguard composition. It turns out that Eldy retro opens up a lot of possibilities for new vanguard setups, one of which is this extremely aggressive torpedo setup that gambles on Operation Rainbow triggering before Jintsuu META and Shimakaze die horribly to enemy preloads. 50% of the time, it works every time. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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119 | The "Speed Demon" vanguard composition. This is a very odd setup created by Ari Naotonemai that stacks speed to dodge out of practically everything (enemy torpedoes, Soyuz barrage, Musashi lightning, etc.) In the past, speed comps generally were not as viable due to the very real possibility of running face first into torps and dying. But Eldridge negates that and makes it more than just a wacky idea. It is worth noting, however, that dropping Jintsuu META is a significant loss in damage and thus a tradeoff of a major win condition in favour of potentially better vanguard survivability. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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129 | 3BB - "ARSE" | The "Torpmemes" vanguard composition. It turns out that Eldy retro opens up a lot of possibilities for new vanguard setups, one of which is this extremely aggressive torpedo setup that gambles on Operation Rainbow triggering before Jintsuu META and Shimakaze die horribly to enemy preloads. 50% of the time, it works every time. In ARSE specifically, this setup can be used rather paradoxically to add MORE consistency by finishing off the enemy vanguard or backline before your fleet inevitably implodes. | |||||||||||||||||||
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135 | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
136 | Richelieu | Alsace | Soyuz | The "Standard" vanguard composition. Once again, the meta has shifted with Juneau falling out of viability. Eldridge (Retrofit) works with both Laffey II and Jintsuu META to create a nearly unstoppable force of destruction. The only way to consistently defeat it is by having at the very least, an Eldridge and Laffey II yourself. The comp outstalls its previous iteration (using Juneau instead of Eldy retro) significantly. But like all things in this game, luck is a major factor. Mirror matches are decided entirely by whose Eldy dies first and the comp can sometimes just go poof because Eldy decided not to trigger Operation Rainbow. Overall, it is the strongest vanguard composition in the current meta. | |||||||||||||||||
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139 | Despite its rather unfortunate name, ARSE is not a bad fleet by any means. Originally developed as a counter to Fortune META fleets, ARSE fell out of favour briefly as the Juneau heavy meta took hold. With the release of Eldridge's retrofit, ARSE once again finds use as Richelieu and Alsace can quickly delete an enemy Eldridge, ensuring all but the swiftest of victories. But to offset its severe lack of damage against the backline, it is best to use an aggressive torpedo vanguard for the extra damage. This puts the fleet in a delicate position as a counter comp to many of the T0 fleets, but it comes at the cost of a slightly lower overall winrate due to torpedo RNG and a playstyle that requires you to look at the screen. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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142 | Laffey II | Jintsuu META | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
143 | The "Stall" vanguard composition. While previously, this setup used Juneau, she has been dropped in favour of the superior Eldridge retrofit. In particular, Elridge (Retrofit) has negative synergy with Juneau as she can delay her healing proc far beyond the necessary window for it to be useful, so a stall comp that drops Ancho for Juneau is simply not as effective. Anchorage also survives much longer than before as she can take advantage of Operation Rainbow's invulnerability, making for a very tough fight. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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150 | The "Duelist" vanguard composition. This vanguard setup gives up Jintsuu META's massive torpedo damage in exchange for additional tanking and mobility from Felix Schultz. In particular, her guns can quickly single out and eliminate an enemy Eldridge while Operation Rainbow is off cooldown, giving them an advantage in vanguard duels. But if your backline does not also win the BB salvo exchanges, this comp can quickly find itself stranded in an unwinnable situation, even if they have already won the vanguard duel. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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156 | Laffey II | Felix Schultz | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
157 | The "Speed Demon" vanguard composition. This is a very odd setup created by Ari Naotonemai that stacks speed to dodge out of practically everything (enemy torpedoes, Soyuz barrage, Musashi lightning, etc.) In the past, speed comps generally were not as viable due to the very real possibility of running face first into torps and dying. But Eldridge negates that and makes it more than just a wacky idea. It is worth noting, however, that dropping Jintsuu META is a significant loss in damage and thus a tradeoff of a major win condition in favour of potentially better vanguard survivability. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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166 | 3BB - "'Nam" | The "Standard" vanguard composition. Once again, the meta has shifted with Juneau falling out of viability. Eldridge (Retrofit) works with both Laffey II and Jintsuu META to create a nearly unstoppable force of destruction. The only way to consistently defeat it is by having at the very least, an Eldridge and Laffey II yourself. The comp outstalls its previous iteration (using Juneau instead of Eldy retro) significantly. But like all things in this game, luck is a major factor. Mirror matches are decided entirely by whose Eldy dies first and the comp can sometimes just go poof because Eldy decided not to trigger Operation Rainbow. Overall, it is the strongest vanguard composition in the current meta. | |||||||||||||||||||
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172 | Laffey II | Jintsuu META | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
173 | Musashi | NJ | Alsace | The "Stall" vanguard composition. While previously, this setup used Juneau, she has been dropped in favour of the superior Eldridge retrofit. In particular, Elridge (Retrofit) has negative synergy with Juneau as she can delay her healing proc far beyond the necessary window for it to be useful, so a stall comp that drops Ancho for Juneau is simply not as effective. Anchorage also survives much longer than before as she can take advantage of Operation Rainbow's invulnerability, making for a very tough fight. | |||||||||||||||||
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176 | Unless you're running the top comps, this comp might just give you 'nam flashbacks. Sarcasm aside, this fleet can hit pretty hard. Alsace's preload (with 3 MGM) can nuke vanguards fairly easily as well as burn opposing ships. Her barrage also has a unique burn which stacks. NJ's early barrage can also contribute some damage, should it trigger outside of Eldridge's invulnerability window. While not as damaging as Soyuz, NJ does have a DR buff for herself and any other US ship which is significant in this meta. The lack of Soyuz, however, makes this fleet very vulnerable to more serious threats on the tier list due to its low burst damage. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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179 | Anchorage | Laffey II | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
180 | The "Duelist" vanguard composition. This vanguard setup gives up Jintsuu META's massive torpedo damage in exchange for additional tanking and mobility from Felix Schultz. In particular, her guns can quickly single out and eliminate an enemy Eldridge while Operation Rainbow is off cooldown, giving them an advantage in vanguard duels. But if your backline does not also win the BB salvo exchanges, this comp can quickly find itself stranded in an unwinnable situation, even if they have already won the vanguard duel. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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186 | Laffey II | Felix Schultz | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
187 | The "Torpmemes" vanguard composition. It turns out that Eldy retro opens up a lot of possibilities for new vanguard setups, one of which is this extremely aggressive torpedo setup that gambles on Operation Rainbow triggering before Jintsuu META and Shimakaze die horribly to enemy preloads. 50% of the time, it works every time. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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193 | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
194 | The "Speed Demon" vanguard composition. This is a very odd setup created by Ari Naotonemai that stacks speed to dodge out of practically everything (enemy torpedoes, Soyuz barrage, Musashi lightning, etc.) In the past, speed comps generally were not as viable due to the very real possibility of running face first into torps and dying. But Eldridge negates that and makes it more than just a wacky idea. It is worth noting, however, that dropping Jintsuu META is a significant loss in damage and thus a tradeoff of a major win condition in favour of potentially better vanguard survivability. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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203 | 3BB - "The Lil' E Comp" | The "Standard" vanguard composition. Once again, the meta has shifted with Juneau falling out of viability. Eldridge (Retrofit) works with both Laffey II and Jintsuu META to create a nearly unstoppable force of destruction. The only way to consistently defeat it is by having at the very least, an Eldridge and Laffey II yourself. The comp outstalls its previous iteration (using Juneau instead of Eldy retro) significantly. But like all things in this game, luck is a major factor. Mirror matches are decided entirely by whose Eldy dies first and the comp can sometimes just go poof because Eldy decided not to trigger Operation Rainbow. Overall, it is the strongest vanguard composition in the current meta. | |||||||||||||||||||
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209 | Laffey II | Jintsuu META | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
210 | NJ | Alsace | Soyuz | The "Stall" vanguard composition. While previously, this setup used Juneau, she has been dropped in favour of the superior Eldridge retrofit. In particular, Elridge (Retrofit) has negative synergy with Juneau as she can delay her healing proc far beyond the necessary window for it to be useful, so a stall comp that drops Ancho for Juneau is simply not as effective. Anchorage also survives much longer than before as she can take advantage of Operation Rainbow's invulnerability, making for a very tough fight. | |||||||||||||||||
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213 | A surprisingly strong fleet originating on Lil' Enterprise, this setup lacks Musashi (due to the fact she doesn't exist on Lil' E). In principle, though, the fleet works similarly to GoT but allows one to put manjuu on the backline for increased stalling potential. Like all Alsace fleets, it decimates enemy vanguards first before finishing off the remaining backline. Soyuz in particular can deal massive damage to both the vanguard and the backline. And NJ's early barrage is a strong followup to Alsace's preload. As expected of something named after Lil' E, this fleet is the most optimised setup you can make in the current meta without Musashi. However, it collapses in matchups against the better fleets on this tier list, putting it near the bottom of Tier 1. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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216 | Anchorage | Laffey II | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
217 | The "Duelist" vanguard composition. This vanguard setup gives up Jintsuu META's massive torpedo damage in exchange for additional tanking and mobility from Felix Schultz. In particular, her guns can quickly single out and eliminate an enemy Eldridge while Operation Rainbow is off cooldown, giving them an advantage in vanguard duels. But if your backline does not also win the BB salvo exchanges, this comp can quickly find itself stranded in an unwinnable situation, even if they have already won the vanguard duel. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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223 | Laffey II | Felix Schultz | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
224 | The "Torpmemes" vanguard composition. It turns out that Eldy retro opens up a lot of possibilities for new vanguard setups, one of which is this extremely aggressive torpedo setup that gambles on Operation Rainbow triggering before Jintsuu META and Shimakaze die horribly to enemy preloads. 50% of the time, it works every time. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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230 | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
231 | The "Speed Demon" vanguard composition. This is a very odd setup created by Ari Naotonemai that stacks speed to dodge out of practically everything (enemy torpedoes, Soyuz barrage, Musashi lightning, etc.) In the past, speed comps generally were not as viable due to the very real possibility of running face first into torps and dying. But Eldridge negates that and makes it more than just a wacky idea. It is worth noting, however, that dropping Jintsuu META is a significant loss in damage and thus a tradeoff of a major win condition in favour of potentially better vanguard survivability. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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237 | Laffey II | L'Indomptable | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
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241 | 3BB - "Musk" | The "Standard" vanguard composition. Once again, the meta has shifted with Juneau falling out of viability. Eldridge (Retrofit) works with both Laffey II and Jintsuu META to create a nearly unstoppable force of destruction. The only way to consistently defeat it is by having at the very least, an Eldridge and Laffey II yourself. The comp outstalls its previous iteration (using Juneau instead of Eldy retro) significantly. But like all things in this game, luck is a major factor. Mirror matches are decided entirely by whose Eldy dies first and the comp can sometimes just go poof because Eldy decided not to trigger Operation Rainbow. Overall, it is the strongest vanguard composition in the current meta. | |||||||||||||||||||
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247 | Laffey II | Jintsuu META | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
248 | Musashi | Soyuz | Kearsarge | The "Stall" vanguard composition. While previously, this setup used Juneau, she has been dropped in favour of the superior Eldridge retrofit. In particular, Elridge (Retrofit) has negative synergy with Juneau as she can delay her healing proc far beyond the necessary window for it to be useful, so a stall comp that drops Ancho for Juneau is simply not as effective. Anchorage also survives much longer than before as she can take advantage of Operation Rainbow's invulnerability, making for a very tough fight. | |||||||||||||||||
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251 | MSK = "Musk". Unfortunately, the fleet comp hasn't bought Twitter. (Yet) This fleets works similarly to Heisenberg but runs Kear instead of NJ. While this has the slight advantage of not jamming Soyuz's guns as hard, Kearsarge's lack of early barrage pressure and lower overall damage put it strictly below its Tier 1 counterpart (Heisenberg). And since New Jersey is available in the base game, there is little reason to actually run Musk over the better option. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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254 | Anchorage | Laffey II | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
255 | The "Duelist" vanguard composition. This vanguard setup gives up Jintsuu META's massive torpedo damage in exchange for additional tanking and mobility from Felix Schultz. In particular, her guns can quickly single out and eliminate an enemy Eldridge while Operation Rainbow is off cooldown, giving them an advantage in vanguard duels. But if your backline does not also win the BB salvo exchanges, this comp can quickly find itself stranded in an unwinnable situation, even if they have already won the vanguard duel. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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261 | Laffey II | Felix Schultz | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
262 | The "Torpmemes" vanguard composition. It turns out that Eldy retro opens up a lot of possibilities for new vanguard setups, one of which is this extremely aggressive torpedo setup that gambles on Operation Rainbow triggering before Jintsuu META and Shimakaze die horribly to enemy preloads. 50% of the time, it works every time. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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268 | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
269 | The "Speed Demon" vanguard composition. This is a very odd setup created by Ari Naotonemai that stacks speed to dodge out of practically everything (enemy torpedoes, Soyuz barrage, Musashi lightning, etc.) In the past, speed comps generally were not as viable due to the very real possibility of running face first into torps and dying. But Eldridge negates that and makes it more than just a wacky idea. It is worth noting, however, that dropping Jintsuu META is a significant loss in damage and thus a tradeoff of a major win condition in favour of potentially better vanguard survivability. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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278 | 3BB - "Movies" | The "Standard" vanguard composition. Once again, the meta has shifted with Juneau falling out of viability. Eldridge (Retrofit) works with both Laffey II and Jintsuu META to create a nearly unstoppable force of destruction. The only way to consistently defeat it is by having at the very least, an Eldridge and Laffey II yourself. The comp outstalls its previous iteration (using Juneau instead of Eldy retro) significantly. But like all things in this game, luck is a major factor. Mirror matches are decided entirely by whose Eldy dies first and the comp can sometimes just go poof because Eldy decided not to trigger Operation Rainbow. Overall, it is the strongest vanguard composition in the current meta. | |||||||||||||||||||
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284 | Laffey II | Jintsuu META | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
285 | Musashi | Soyuz | Vanguard | The "Stall" vanguard composition. While previously, this setup used Juneau, she has been dropped in favour of the superior Eldridge retrofit. In particular, Elridge (Retrofit) has negative synergy with Juneau as she can delay her healing proc far beyond the necessary window for it to be useful, so a stall comp that drops Ancho for Juneau is simply not as effective. Anchorage also survives much longer than before as she can take advantage of Operation Rainbow's invulnerability, making for a very tough fight. | |||||||||||||||||
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288 | Like its name suggests, "Movies" (MVS) is a very flashy and aggressive comp. The spectacular and violent barrage procs followed by massive enhanced shelling damage make it a force to be reckoned with. This comes at a great cost, however. Since none of the members of this backline are Eagle Union, none can use manjuu for invulnerability, which drops a very important safety net. Due to how quick Vanguard is, Soyuz can very comfortably run the Twin 457mm gun to fire last. But this will not give her the same level of synergy with Musashi's lightning strikes. Trying to make Vanguard fire last will waste her powerful damage buffs. So it's kind of an awkward setup to play with. These factors ultimately contribute to it being a Tier 2 fleet, as the Tier 0 and Tier 1 fleets have none of these glaring issues. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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291 | Anchorage | Laffey II | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
292 | The "Duelist" vanguard composition. This vanguard setup gives up Jintsuu META's massive torpedo damage in exchange for additional tanking and mobility from Felix Schultz. In particular, her guns can quickly single out and eliminate an enemy Eldridge while Operation Rainbow is off cooldown, giving them an advantage in vanguard duels. But if your backline does not also win the BB salvo exchanges, this comp can quickly find itself stranded in an unwinnable situation, even if they have already won the vanguard duel. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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298 | Laffey II | Felix Schultz | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||||
299 | The "Torpmemes" vanguard composition. It turns out that Eldy retro opens up a lot of possibilities for new vanguard setups, one of which is this extremely aggressive torpedo setup that gambles on Operation Rainbow triggering before Jintsuu META and Shimakaze die horribly to enemy preloads. 50% of the time, it works every time. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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306 | The "Speed Demon" vanguard composition. This is a very odd setup created by Ari Naotonemai that stacks speed to dodge out of practically everything (enemy torpedoes, Soyuz barrage, Musashi lightning, etc.) In the past, speed comps generally were not as viable due to the very real possibility of running face first into torps and dying. But Eldridge negates that and makes it more than just a wacky idea. It is worth noting, however, that dropping Jintsuu META is a significant loss in damage and thus a tradeoff of a major win condition in favour of potentially better vanguard survivability. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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322 | Alsace | Musashi | Vanguard | The "Aggro" vanguard composition. Unlike the comp above, Aggro doesn't have the invulnerability from Eldy Retro, so it is much more prone to randomly dying at the start of a fight. But should you win the coin flip, the damage output is enough to overwhelm most enemies. But these days, the fleet overall may fall victim to better comps. | |||||||||||||||||
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325 | No. It's not "Anime Music Video", it's just Alsace Musashi Vanguard: an extremely aggressive fleet comp developed by none other than Beth Log. This fleet has a deceptively strong backline. While at first glance it may seem to be too weak to fight off any other fleet comp on ladder, its main power comes from the sheer amount of early damage and buffs which a well-built torpedo vanguard can take advantage of. HMS Vanguard's damage increases apply by the time your preload torps hit the enemy backline, annihilating them completely. And with Fortune META erased from existence by Alsace's preloads, there isn't much to stop your torpedoes other than bad RNG. In particular, the amount of damage thrown out by torps can easily overwhelm an enemy Juneau and even trigger a Laffey II's manjuu early into the fight, giving you exceedingly swift victories. (Usually by 1st salvo rotation). With the arrival of Elridge's retrofit, this comp has sunken to Tier 2 due to its reliance on preload damage that can be totally ignored by the enemy vanguard. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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329 | The "Double Torp" vanguard composition (from a few metas ago) also does not use Laffey II. Note that Shimakaze is Off-Tank here so she may be forced to use a different aux setup (2 HP aux items as opposed to Pearl + Black Torp like she normally does). Anchorage is intentionally frontmost to trigger her smoke immediately when then fight begins. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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336 | The "Torpmemes" vanguard composition. For AMV in particular, this setup is very strong at opening a fight but you may run into serious trouble against an enemy Laffey II or Eldridge. This is because none of the 3 members of this vanguard fleet have anywhere close to her equivalent amount of stalling power. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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353 | 3BB - "SEMEN" | The "Duelist" vanguard composition. This vanguard setup gives up Jintsuu META's massive torpedo damage in exchange for additional tanking and mobility from Felix Schultz. In particular, her guns can quickly single out and eliminate an enemy Eldridge while Operation Rainbow is off cooldown, giving them an advantage in vanguard duels. But if your backline does not also win the BB salvo exchanges, this comp can quickly find itself stranded in an unwinnable situation, even if they have already won the vanguard duel. Seydlitz's synergy with Felix due to faction buffs makes this the best option for Snowmen against Eldridge comps. But it may struggle against older Juneau ones due to the aforementioned reliance on stalling to win the backline matchup. | |||||||||||||||||||
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360 | Musashi | Seydlitz | NJ | The "Standard" vanguard composition. Once again, the meta has shifted with Juneau falling out of viability. Eldridge (Retrofit) works with both Laffey II and Jintsuu META to create a nearly unstoppable force of destruction. The only way to consistently defeat it is by having at the very least, an Eldridge and Laffey II yourself. The comp outstalls its previous iteration (using Juneau instead of Eldy retro) significantly. But like all things in this game, luck is a major factor. Mirror matches are decided entirely by whose Eldy dies first and the comp can sometimes just go poof because Eldy decided not to trigger Operation Rainbow. Overall, it is the strongest vanguard composition in the current meta. | |||||||||||||||||
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363 | Joke name aside, this triple battleship comp containing Seydlitz (SE), Musashi (ME), and New Jersey (N) is surprisingly powerful. In a way it's much like the battleship version of HYMEN where it started off as a deviation of the current top tier Triple BB comp but focused on a more defensive loadout. Seydlitz's early salvo allows her to hit the enemy vanguard for massive damage early into the fight or annihilate a random revealed backline enemy (depending on gun), which is immediately followed up by Musashi's devastating barrage. Her invulnerability is also extremely strong, as she does not sink after triggering it, unlike manjuu on USS ships. With preloads and early damage no longer dominating thanks to Eldridge's retrofit, this fleet has seen an increase in viability but may totally flounder against anything that uses Soyuz. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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367 | The "Stall" vanguard composition. While previously, this setup used Juneau, she has been dropped in favour of the superior Eldridge retrofit. In particular, Elridge (Retrofit) has negative synergy with Juneau as she can delay her healing proc far beyond the necessary window for it to be useful, so a stall comp that drops Ancho for Juneau is simply not as effective. Anchorage also survives much longer than before as she can take advantage of Operation Rainbow's invulnerability, making for a very tough fight. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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381 | The "Speed Demon" vanguard composition. This is a very odd setup created by Ari Naotonemai that stacks speed to dodge out of practically everything (enemy torpedoes, Soyuz barrage, Musashi lightning, etc.) In the past, speed comps generally were not as viable due to the very real possibility of running face first into torps and dying. But Eldridge negates that and makes it more than just a wacky idea. It is worth noting, however, that dropping Jintsuu META is a significant loss in damage and thus a tradeoff of a major win condition in favour of potentially better vanguard survivability. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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390 | 3BB - "Stepmom" | The "Standard" vanguard composition. Once again, the meta has shifted with Juneau falling out of viability. Eldridge (Retrofit) works with both Laffey II and Jintsuu META to create a nearly unstoppable force of destruction. The only way to consistently defeat it is by having at the very least, an Eldridge and Laffey II yourself. The comp outstalls its previous iteration (using Juneau instead of Eldy retro) significantly. But like all things in this game, luck is a major factor. Mirror matches are decided entirely by whose Eldy dies first and the comp can sometimes just go poof because Eldy decided not to trigger Operation Rainbow. Overall, it is the strongest vanguard composition in the current meta. | |||||||||||||||||||
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397 | Musashi | NJ | Vanguard | The "Stall" vanguard composition. While previously, this setup used Juneau, she has been dropped in favour of the superior Eldridge retrofit. In particular, Elridge (Retrofit) has negative synergy with Juneau as she can delay her healing proc far beyond the necessary window for it to be useful, so a stall comp that drops Ancho for Juneau is simply not as effective. Anchorage also survives much longer than before as she can take advantage of Operation Rainbow's invulnerability, making for a very tough fight. | |||||||||||||||||
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404 | The "Duelist" vanguard composition. This vanguard setup gives up Jintsuu META's massive torpedo damage in exchange for additional tanking and mobility from Felix Schultz. In particular, her guns can quickly single out and eliminate an enemy Eldridge while Operation Rainbow is off cooldown, giving them an advantage in vanguard duels. But if your backline does not also win the BB salvo exchanges, this comp can quickly find itself stranded in an unwinnable situation, even if they have already won the vanguard duel. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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1 | Newbie/Budget Fleets | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
2 | Last Updated: 07/09/2024 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
3 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
4 | This section is specific for new and returning players that don't have access to a lot of the Event limited ships used in the main tier list. Ships in this list are mostly acquired from permanent building pools, War Archives, and very recent events/reruns. PvP-viable PR ships have also been added, as many are easy to acquire thanks to the PR blueprint catchup system (such as Anchorage) or otherwise excellent in the current meta (such as Kearsarge). There will no tiering of comps since it's only meant to help people build usable comps. The list will be updated periodically as new event ships will be added and old ones removed. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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6 | Permanent pools/Drops only Main Fleet Ships | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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12 | NJ | Shinano | Warspoot | Sodak | Enterprise | Hiryuu Kai | Akagi | Kaga | Richelieu | Perseus | Unicorn Kai | ||||||||||||||
13 | Heavy/Special | Heavy/Special | Heavy Pool | PvP Exchange | Core Data | Special Pool | 3-1, 3-2, 3-3 | 3-4 | 3-4 | Heavy Pool | Special Pool | Special Pool | |||||||||||||
14 | UR Exchange | UR Exchange | Medal Exchange | Medal Exchange | 10-1, 12-1 | ||||||||||||||||||||
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21 | Nagato | Amagi | Prince of Wales | VV | Aquila | ||||||||||||||||||||
22 | Medal exchange | Heavy Pool | Heavy Pool | Heavy Pool | Special Pool | ||||||||||||||||||||
23 | Medal Exchange | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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25 | Permanent Pools/Drops only Vanguard Ships | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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31 | Juneau Kai | Ayanami Kai | Yukikaze | Noshiro | Sandy Kai | Birmingham | Leipzig | Helena Kai | Jintsuu Kai | Naganami | Sendai Kai | Portland Kai | |||||||||||||
32 | Light Pool | Collection Reward | Medal Exchange | Light Pool | Light Pool | Light Pool | Collection Reward | Light Pool | 10-4 | Light Pool | 11-4 | Exchange | |||||||||||||
33 | 5-2, 6-3, 7-2, 8-1 | War Archives | Medal Exchange | 5-1, 6-1 | Heavy Pool | ||||||||||||||||||||
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40 | Shimakaze | Duca | |||||||||||||||||||||||
41 | Heavy/Special | Light Pool | |||||||||||||||||||||||
42 | UR Exchange | War Archives | Guild Shop | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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44 | Research Season Ships | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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50 | Anchorage | FDG | Harbin | Seattle | Felix Schultz | Flandre | Kearsarge | ||||||||||||||||||
51 | Note: Only dev10 required | Despite being DR, you can buy out her BPs due to being PR2 | Usable at dev25 | Usable at dev25 | Gains torp preload at dev15. Becomes tanky by dev25. Gains 30% aux stats at dev30 | Gains preload at dev5, but comfortably usable by dev25. | Extremely strong but requires dev30 to be usable (MGM +2) | ||||||||||||||||||
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53 | Recent PvP-Viable Event Ships (last 3 months) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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59 | Eldy Retro | Vanguard | Seydlitz | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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67 | Oh no, I missed Jintsuu META! What can I do? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
68 | Do not fret, you can still run any of the backline comps seen in the main tier list, and in addition you can use many of the powerful vanguard compositions on the main list. Alternate options not on the main tier list are also shown below. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
69 | Awkward Stall | Felix Stall | Shima Stall | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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76 | LaffII | Juneau Kai | Eldy Retro | Anchorage | Felix Schultz | Eldy Retro | LaffII | Shimakaze | Eldy Retro | ||||||||||||||||
77 | Alternatives | Alternatives | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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83 | Felix Schultz | Juneau Kai | LaffII | Juneau Kai | Ayanami Kai | Harbin | |||||||||||||||||||
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89 | I have Jintsuu META but am missing Laffey II! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
90 | Laffey II is incredibly strong, so you are now at a much more significant disadvantage than if you were missing Jintsuu META instead. However, this isn't the end of the world. There are still many vanguard comps you can run without Laffey II thanks to Eldridge (Retrofit) but you may be pigeonholed into using a more aggressive vanguard setup. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
91 | Torpmemes | Hybrid Felix Comp | Double Torp | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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98 | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | Eldy Retro | Felix Schultz | Jintsuu META | Eldy Retro | Anchorage | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | ||||||||||||||||
99 | Alternatives | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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111 | I'm missing Eldridge (Retrofit) but not Jintsuu META or Laffey II! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
112 | Well, you can use vanguard setups from the previous meta. They're not as strong as they once were, but can still beat most things on ladder in a couple of tries. Don't worry though, in a few more years Eldridge's retrofit item will be available permanently. 2026 maybe? :^( | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
113 | Old Standard | Old Stall | Old Aggro | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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120 | LaffII | Jintsuu META | Juneau Kai | Anchorage | Juneau Kai | LaffII | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | LaffII | ||||||||||||||||
121 | Alternatives | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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134 | Well, it's a hard knock life for you now. But you can still make do with some of the really old vanguard comps we used to use. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
135 | 2022 Stall | 2022 Aggro | |||||||||||||||||||||||
136 | If you've reached this far and still are unable to create any of the suggested vanguard compositions in this section, we recommend checking out the vanguard setups in the New Player Fleets section below, even if you are not necessarily a new player; or check out the Permanent Content Fleets section. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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160 | Fleets in this section are generally very easy to create and get going, though players may find themselves quickly outgrowing them after a few events. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
161 | Dollar Store Fleet | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
162 | This is the absolute cheapest PvP viable fleet you can build as a new player, using nothing but the free exchange stuff and the new player tasks. No banner rolls, map drops, or PR grinding are required. However, you may need a fair amount of gold for the retrofits should you choose to complete them instead of replacing with better ships. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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175 | Prince of Wales | Warspoot | Hiryuu Kai | Anchorage | Ayanami Kai | Juneau Kai | |||||||||||||||||||
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177 | Beginner Preload Comp | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
178 | A simple preload fleet comp assembled from permanent ships, this fleet works by having Perseus reveal the enemy backline and then letting Warspite snipe the revealed enemies, though Flandre also works. Unicorn Retrofit can also be used if you do not have Perseus but she deals substantially less damage. The vanguard setup is based on the Stall fleet from an older meta, attempting to keep your backline alive long enough to deal sustained damage. Noshiro can be used instead of Harbin. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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191 | Prince of Wales | Flandre | Unicorn Kai | Noshiro | Seattle | ||||||||||||||||||||
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193 | Beginner HYMEN Comp | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
194 | Working on the same principles of HYMEN from the main tier list, this fleet composition is a surprisingly strong competitor even for higher ranks. However, you will inevitably run into better versions of this fleet (such as actual HYMEN) which are serious uphill battles to defeat. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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210 | The principle backline consists of Nagato buffing Amagi and Hiryuu (Retrofit) to deal massive damage. Alternatives drop faction buffs but are equally viable. Vanguards can be both "Stall" comps (Anchorage - Yukikaze/Ayanmi - Juneau) or "Aggro" comps (Jintsuu - Ayanami - Noshiro). | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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226 | The classic Fox Comp, relying on Akagi and Kaga's early airstrikes combined with Nagato to deal high damage before the enemy team can fire back. Vanguard loadouts are basically the same as the previous entry. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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243 | A relatively budget friendly USS starter fleet, requiring only 1 retrofit and 1 PR ship development to get going (Indep Kai + Anchorage). Prince of Wales (with augment) is an excellent option for buffing USS ships. Vanguard is essentially just a "Stall" comp without Yukikaze, though using Sandy (Retrofit) for AA or Helena (Retrofit) for damage buffs is viable as well. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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248 | Indep Kai | Enterprise | Prince of Wales | Anchorage | Birmingham | Juneau Kai | |||||||||||||||||||
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262 | Fleets in this section can be constructed from permanent content, although they may be expensive and newer players may take multiple months to complete some of the PR ships in the section below. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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265 | Mafia is now fully obtainable in the base game. It may not be as strong as it once was, but hey, it's a piece of PvP history! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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270 | VV | NJ | Aquila | Anchorage | Shimakaze | Juneau Kai | |||||||||||||||||||
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281 | Now that New Jersey is obtainable in the base game, the KENNY fleet from the main tier list sheet is completely available to all players who can spend the time and effort to construct it. Though the vanguard comp pictured here may run into trouble against the more refined torpedo meta fleets. But it should be more than enough to carry one through the ladder, perhaps even to EoS. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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286 | NJ | Kearsarge | Hiryuu Kai | Anchorage | Shimakaze | Juneau Kai | |||||||||||||||||||
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296 | A strong battleship fleet based on Monkey that uses FdG in place of Musashi, resembling the MILF fleets of the olden days. The main thing to pay attention to is whether FdG and NJ have gun jamming. Usually this results in putting mk4 on FdG and 457 on NJ. Kear will generally fire after both of them when using 457. HE options are also possible if facing particularly nasty vanguards or certain CVs. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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312 | Wow, what a blast from the past! Weeb is a slow comp designed to outlive your enemies and then run over them with massive airstrike damage. While not as strong as it used to be, it can certainly get you through a lot of fleets, though it may cost more to assemble than the other fleets in this section due to needing at least 2 Wyverns to function. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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318 | NJ | Shinano | Hiryuu Kai | Anchorage | Yukikaze | Juneau Kai | |||||||||||||||||||
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328 | This is essentially a much better version of the Beginner USS fleet from the previous section, using NJ and Kear along with Indep Kai to quickly obliterate enemies. The vanguard comp is also extremely tanky due to its stall-based nature. However, the lack of a DD means you will likely have to add boilers to keep a reasonable amount of speed. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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348 | Some better fleet comps than those in the previous two categories can be assembled out of permanent ships in conjunction with ships from the recent events, as shown below. Note that this criterion includes vanguards too (hence why Shimakaze is not featured) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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350 | A piece of PvP history from the 2022 era. While it's definitely not as strong as it once was, you can probably soup it up with better options from modern PvP to make it viable on ladder. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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366 | This comp can be used with Manjuu NJ to have 2 invulns. It probably can't fight off Tier 0 fleets consistently but with enough tries, anything is possible. Like all pvp comps running HMS Vanguard, having WNT flag is generally the best option as her damage buff can negate its downsides. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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382 | A relatively slow comp that uses USS buffs from NJ to buff Kear, Ancho, and Eldy retro. Like the fleet above, it also relies on double invulns to survive the harsh backline fights of the current meta. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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3 | This section is to describe specific gear combinations or situational equipment loadouts that may otherwise not be evident from reading the sheet alone. | |||||||||||
4 | Equip Ranking | Optimal | Viable | Situational | ||||||||
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7 | Kearsarge | Twin 457 | Twin 406Mk4 | Flapjack | Tigercat | STAAG | Hazemeyer | AFCR | Manjuu | Fairy Magic | Beaver Badge | When used as a solo USS backline option, she is best with HPFCR/AFCR + Manjuu. Most players run her alongside NJ, however, who often already has manjuu. So Kear instead goes for Fairy Magic Poster/SG Radar, WNT (off flag), or Beaver Badge as her second aux item. AvGas can be used in some DPS loadouts but is generally no longer the best option. Kear must use a USS plane to get her buffs to proc. This is usually Flapjack or Tigercat. But VF-17 can be used for timing with CVs. HVAR can sometimes be used against light armoured vanguards but doesn't reveal CVs as consistently. Her gun reload is on the slow side even with an HPFCR, so with a 457 she will fire after NJ and Musashi in most situations. |
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12 | FDG | Twin 457 | Twin 406Mk4 | Quad 152mm | Twin 137mm | STAAG | Hazemeyer | AFCR | Fairy Magic | Beaver Badge | White Shell | FdG uses the standard BB loadout, which is composed of: • Twin 457mm main gun • Twin137mm secondary gun (Quad 152mm if flagship) • STAAG AA gun • AFCR or HPFCR • Any EVA/HIT/FP auxiliary. Due to her low accuracy, FdG prefers Fairy Magic Poster and other high HIT auxes such as SG Radar. In a triple BB comp such as MILF, she may prefer the 406mk4 instead of the 457mm gun for timings, but due to her pendulum-like RLD buffs, this is highly debatable. WNT is used if using her as a flagship or off-flag if you just want the stats. Beaver Badge is good defensively but offers no HIT. |
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16 | Soyuz | Twin 406Mk4 | Triple 283mm | Quad 152mm | Twin 137mm | STAAG | Hazemeyer | AFCR | Fairy Magic | Beaver Badge | White Shell | Soyuz uses the standard BB loadout for most things, but her relatively fast reload makes her often jam with other BBs, especially when using the Twin 457mm gun. In particular, with Musashi/NJ/Soyuz, she will be delayed extensively. Because of this, it is generally preferred to run the Prototype Twin 406Mk4 on her, as being slightly delayed by Musashi is preferable to being delayed nearly a full second by NJ. Some fleets opt to run the purple Triple 283mm gun to get her barrage to proc before Musashi's lightning strikes. But this comes at the cost of giving up a fair bit of her shelling damage. Due to her faction, she gets extra LCK and invuln from Fairy Magic Poster (mitigates damage to 1 3 times). But other common options such as Beaver Badge, SG Radar, and WNT (Off Flag) are excellent as well. |
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20 | Alsace | Triple 406Mk7 | Twin 406mm | Quad 152mm | Twin 137mm | STAAG | Hazemeyer | AFCR | White Shell | Beaver Badge | Fairy Magic | Alsace's preload makes her able to run a variety of main guns. For nuking enemy vanguards, the 406Mk7 is your best bet. But the Mk6 Prototype deals higher alpha damage in exchange for a noticeably slower reload time. When used alongside Richelieu, the Twin 406mm SK C/34 is superior. Note that due to her preload being a skill, her actual first salvo is still reduced by HPFCR/AFCR's ability, which makes it mandatory like on most other BBs. Her lack of defenses are definitely a major factor when fleetbuilding, so it's better to run Beaver on her with WNT on the flagship if you're going for a tankier setup. But going all out DPS with White Shell is also extremely effective due to her preload damage and absolutely devastating against enemy vanguards. |
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24 | NJ | Twin 457 | Twin 406Mk4 | Twin 137mm | PR 130mm | STAAG | Hazemeyer | AFCR | Manjuu | Fairy Magic | Beaver Badge | Unlike other BBs, NJ's faction allows her to use the Eagle Union Elite Damage Control (also known as Manjuu) instead of an EVA/HIT/FP item to stall fights longer at the cost of occasionally dying early to torps (which you can reset out of anyway). The same behaviour applies to all other USS backline ships such as Kearsarge, Enterprise, and Yorktown II. This is generally her Best In Slot secondary aux item (after AFCR/HPFCR). Fleets that wish to stack AA (such as 2CV fleets) may have NJ equip the Twin 57mm or Sex Bofors AA guns to take advantage of her enormous AA stat. The rest of her loadout works similarly to the standard BB loadout. Do note that she cannot equip CL guns. |
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26 | Twin 406mm | Twin 128mm | 130mm B2LM | Twin 57mm | Sex Bofors | HPFCR | White Shell | SG Radar | WNT | |||
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1 | SHIP | Main Gun | Torpedos Auxiliary Gun | Anti-Air Gun | Auxiliaries | Notes | ||||||
2 | Last Updated: 07/09/2024 | |||||||||||
3 | This section is to describe specific gear combinations or situational equipment loadouts that may otherwise not be evident from reading the sheet alone. | |||||||||||
4 | Equip Ranking | Optimal | Viable | Situational | ||||||||
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7 | Anchorage | 203mm (SKC) | Triple 234mm | 550mm Twin | 533mm Triple | Sex Bofors | Twin 57mm | Cosmic Kicks | Boilers | Bulge | Beaver Badge | Anchorage's strange choice of torpedo is to make sure her smokescreen triggers at the appropriate time. For example, the 550mm Twin torpedo mount launches very quickly, allowing her to block incoming shelling damage from enemy BBs. When used as Main Tank, she is best using the Hindenburg gun due to likely never living long enough to fire a second shot, preferring AP to pierce through the multiple enemy vanguard ships. If used in the Off Tank position against torp comps, it is better to use the Unzen gun as its raw DPS against light armour is significantly higher. Due to the torpedo meta, Anchorage no longer prefers Manjuu and is best off with either Bulge + Kicks or Boiler + Kicks. |
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9 | 203mm kai | 203mm/55 | 533mm Quad | Triple 550mm | STAAG | Hazemeyer | Cyanide | Rudder | Wirbel Luft | Manjuu | ||
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11 | Unzen | 203mm (SKC) | Triple 234mm | Tea Torps | 533mm Quint | Sex Bofors | Twin 57mm | Boilers | Black Torp | Cosmic Kicks | Pearl Tears | Unzen is usually run in the off-tank or mid position as there are much better tank options (Anchorage, Jintsuu META, etc.) and is usually best off running Tea Torps with a Black Torp aux, which locks in her first aux item. Her extremely low base SPD warrants compensation, however, and is really her main bottleneck in PvP. When in the mid position she could use pearl as well but likely at the cost of speed or damage. |
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13 | 203mm kai | 203mm/55 | 533mm Quad | 533mm Mk35 | STAAG | Hazemeyer | Wirbel Luft | Beaver Badge | Rudder | |||
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15 | Agir | Guam Gun | 533mm Quint | 533mm Mk35 | STAAG | Hazemeyer | Boilers | Cosmic Kicks | Cyanide | Pearl Tears | Agir is best with the 533mm rainbow Quint mags to maximize her chance of slowing enemies. Some strange setups use her in the middle position with Pearl as a sort of reverse Shimakaze, if you will. Like all CBs, she has terrible speed and evasion so struggles in PvP at best and is outright unusable at worst. | |
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17 | Pr Triple 305 | 203mm (SKC) | 533mm Triple | 550mm Twin | Twin 57mm | Sex Bofors | Wirbel Luft | Beaver Badge | Goldburn | |||
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20 | LaffII | 100mm Kai | Twin 138.6 | Tea Torps | 533mm Mk35 | Twin 57mm | Sex Bofors | Manjuu | Wirbel Luft | Boilers | Expo Ticket | Laffey II requires at least 1 USS gear item to trigger her AA buff. While this can be in any slot (such as torpedo, gun, etc.) it is generally now accepted that Manjuu is her Best in Slot item, unless you are using New Jersey or another USS backline unit. Generally a speed item is her best second auxiliary, though many other options exist due to her extreme flexibility. Fire Extinguisher may be useful in a matchup against double HE (such as Richelieu + Alsace) but comes at the cost of losing speed, and Laffey II's base speed is incredibly low for a DD. You should never use Pearl Tears on her, as she will outlive pretty much everything else in a fight and thus not trigger its healing at a useful time. |
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22 | PR 130mm | Twin 127mm | 533mm Quad | 533mm Quint | Quad Bofors | AF Report | Cyanide | RPG Interface | Fire Ext. | |||
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24 | Eldy Retro | 100mm Kai | Single 113mm | Tea Torps | 533mm Mk35 | Twin 57mm | Sex Bofors | Pearl Tears | Cyanide | RPG Interface | Goldburn | Elridge (Retrofit) is generally pretty squishy when she's not invulnerable, so will die pretty much instantly the moment she comes out of her evasion skill. Thus, Pearl is a must have on her unless you have a squishier unit in your vanguard (such as Shimakaze). An HP item such as Cyanidin Towel is also an excellent second item. Speed items can be used if she is used alongside slower units (such as CAs). Manjuu is generally not great on her since she cannot trigger Operation Rainbow while invulnerable. But if she is your only USS vanguard ship, then it is still a good choice for extra stalling power. A fast DD gun is recommended on her due to her massive barrage. |
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26 | Single 120mm | 533mm Quad | 533mm Quint | Quad Bofors | Boilers | Wirbel Luft | Expo Ticket | Manjuu | ||||
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28 | Fortune M | Single 113mm | Single 120mm | Tea Torps | 533mm Mk35 | STAAG | Twin 57mm | RPG Interface | Pearl Tears | Wirbel Luft | Expo Ticket | Fortune META is usually used in the off-tank position, so she prefers auxes with high HP to compensate for her absolutely miniscule eHP pool. RPG Interface + Pearl is generally her best loadout in most situations, though if you are already using RPG Interface or Pearl on another vanguard unit, Cyanidin Support Towel is an excellent substitute. Wirbel Luft, Boilers, and Expo Ticket are also good speed items if you are running a slower vanguard. Aggressive vanguards may try to use Black Torp to boost her torpedo damage, though this is rare in the current meta. Despite her high FP, she is best off using a fast gun to spam her AoA barrage slashes in order to counter enemy torpedoes. Tea Torps or 533 Mk35s are her best torpedo options. Goldburn marginally increases her RLD which may be worth using if you do not want to use Cyanidin Towel or RPG Interface on her. |
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30 | Single 76mm | 100mm Kai | 533mm Quad | 533mm Quint | Sex Bofors | Hazemeyer | Cyanide | Goldburn | Boilers | Black Torp | ||
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32 | Shimakaze | Single 113mm | Single 120mm | Tea Torps | 533mm Mk35 | STAAG | Twin 57mm | Black Torp | Pearl Tears | RPG Interface | Wirbel Luft | Tea Torps + Black Torp Aux are the Best in Slot option for most ships with a torpedo slot. The 533mm USS mags have a similar firing pattern and tracking but deal less damage and launch 1 less torpedo. In some situations or setups, the rainbow Quint Mags may be used instead alongside Oxy Torp aux. For Shimakaze specifically, Pearl Tears is a must-have for her aux gear. Putting 2 torp auxes on her is not recommended. |
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34 | Single 76mm | 100mm Kai | 533mm Quad | 533mm Quint | Hazemeyer | Sex Bofors | Oxy Torpedo | Goldburn | Cyanide | Expo Ticket | ||
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36 | Ayanami Kai | Single 113mm | Single 120mm | Tea Torps | 533mm Mk35 | STAAG | Twin 57mm | Black Torp | Pearl Tears | RPG Interface | Wirbel Luft | Tea Torps + Black Torp Aux are the Best in Slot option for most ships with a torpedo slot. The 533mm USS mags have a similar firing pattern and tracking but deal less damage and launch 1 less torpedo. In some situations or setups, the rainbow Quint Mags may be used instead. Ayanami's ideal gear setup is pretty much a carbon copy of Shimakaze's. |
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38 | Single 76mm | 100mm Kai | 533mm Quad | 533mm Quint | Hazemeyer | Sex Bofors | Oxy Torpedo | Goldburn | Cyanide | Expo Ticket | ||
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40 | Yukikaze | Single 113mm | Single 120mm | Tea Torps | 533mm Mk35 | Twin 57mm | Sex Bofors | RPG Interface | Pearl Tears | Wirbel Luft | Fire Ext. | Unlike the other IJN DDs on this list, Yukikaze's extremely high eHP enables players to run her with a full tank loadout instead. Due to this, she prefers the rainbow Quint Mags since there is no room for a Black Torp in her aux setup, though the quad mags and mk35 USS torps also work fine. The Fire Extinguisher was popular on her back when HE damage was more common. Nowadays it's a situational equip and it's better to just stack HP items on her such as RPG Interface, Cyanidin Support Towel, Goldburn, etc. See the Gear Breakdown section for more details. |
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42 | Single 76mm | 100mm Kai | 533mm Quad | 533mm Quint | Quad Bofors | STAAG | Cyanide | Goldburn | Expo Ticket | |||
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44 | Naganami | Single 113mm | Single 120mm | Tea Torps | 533mm Mk35 | STAAG | Twin 57mm | Black Torp | Pearl Tears | RPG Interface | Wirbel Luft | Tea Torps + Black Torp Aux are the Best in Slot option for most ships with a torpedo slot. The 533mm USS mags have a similar firing pattern and tracking but deal less damage and launch 1 less torpedo. In some situations or setups, the rainbow Quint Mags may be used instead. Naganami, like Ayanami, is best off with the same equip setup as Shimakaze. |
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46 | Single 76mm | 100mm Kai | 533mm Quad | 533mm Quint | Hazemeyer | Sex Bofors | Oxy Torpedo | Goldburn | Cyanide | Expo Ticket | ||
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48 | Felix Schultz | Quad 152mm | 42T Prototype | Tea Torps | 533mm Mk35 | STAAG | Twin 57mm | Cyanide | RPG Interface | Goldburn | Wirbel Luft | Unlike other DDs, Felix is extremely gun-focused due to her relatively low TRP stat and unique ability to use a CL gun. Some setups opt to use the Single 150mm CL gun to trigger her All Out Assault barrage more often. Her extremely high eHP pool makes her suitable to be used in the off-tank position so she often stacks HP items to outlive her enemies, especially due to her hefty +30% aux stat modifier. Due to being a DD, however, she cannot equip the torp bulge. Pearl is generally not great on her due to how late into a fight she dies. But if you have nowhere else to put it, go ahead. |
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50 | Single 150mm | 533mm Quad | 533mm Quint | Sex Bofors | Hazemeyer | Expo Ticket | Boilers | Black Torp | Pearl Tears | |||
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53 | Jintsuu META | Quad 152mm | 152mm Mk17 | Tea Torps | 533mm Mk35 | Sex Bofors | Twin 57mm | Black Torp | Oxy Torpedo | Wirbel Luft | Cosmic Kicks | Jintsuu META is usually used in the tank slot and due to her invulnerability skill + double torpedo launch on "death", a full damage loadout is actually excellent on her, though more conservative players may simply run her with a Black Torp + Speed/health aux item instead. Some comps may choose to run her with a tankier loadout, preferring a single torp aux (such as black torp) + Cyanidin Support Towel/Goldburn/RPG Interface or Cosmic Kicks. Pearl Tears may be used in some niche loadouts to take advantage of her sinking skill or if she is being run in the middle position, but the item is generally better on squishy DDs like Shimakaze/Fortune META or on Juneau instead. |
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55 | PR 152mm | 533mm Quad | 533mm Quint | STAAG | Hazemeyer | Goldburn | Cyanide | RPG Interface | Pearl Tears | |||
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57 | Harbin | Twin 138.6 | 100mm Kai | Tea Torps | 533mm Mk35 | Sex Bofors | Twin 57mm | Black Torp | Bulge | Wirbel Luft | Cosmic Kicks | Tea Torps + Black Torp Aux are the Best in Slot option for most ships with a torpedo slot. The 533mm USS mags have a similar firing pattern and tracking but deal less damage and launch 1 less torpedo. In some situations or setups, the rainbow Quint Mags may be used instead. Harbin tends to be used in the Off Tank position, where her best options are Black Torp + Bulge. But she has many flexible options for her second aux item, especially if you do not need the torpedo protection (due to Fortune META, etc.) Pearl can be used on her if she is being used in the Mid position as a substitute for Shimakaze. |
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1 | Modules | ||||||||||
2 | This section is dedicated to the Augment Modules system and how to properly equip your PVP fleets with them. | ||||||||||
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4 | Vanguard | ||||||||||
5 | Equipping your vanguard/frontline with modules is pretty straightforward. You should almost never need to deviate from thiese guidelines. | ||||||||||
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7 | For Heavy Cruisers: | ||||||||||
8 | Greatsword | ||||||||||
9 | This should be the only module used on CAs due to its slash attack removing torpedoes. CN fleets like to use Lance for some reason. Weirdge. Has Slash Attack - Area | ||||||||||
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15 | Crossbow | ||||||||||
16 | Traditionally, you should use at least one Crossbow in your fleet and if your fleet has more than one CL, you should decide how many Crossbows to equip based on how tough the enemy planes are. The current meta favours high torpedo preload damage, however, so some players have dropped Crossbow in favour of running multiple Swords. | ||||||||||
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21 | With the rise of torp fleets, accuracy stacking (HIT stat) using the Sword augment on CLs is actually really strong, as the sword gives +25 HIT (20 +5 rng stat) at maximum enhancement level. Generally you want this on Jintsuu META and a Crossbow on your other CL, should you be using another. Has Slash Attack - Spread | ||||||||||
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27 | Hammer | ||||||||||
28 | Generally all your destroyers should equip the Hammer. The TRP and ACC stats given are what most DDs want and the slash skill is extremely useful. Has Slash Attack - Spread | ||||||||||
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33 | If you prefer a more tanky build for your destroyer, you might want to consider using this for the extra EVA boost. It may also be equipped on more gun-focused destroyers, however gun-focused destroyers tend to suck in PVP. Has Slash Attack - Area | ||||||||||
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39 | You want to maximise the slash proc level, usually try to go for level 3. We thus pick one of the following depending on the setup. | ||||||||||
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41 | 3DD - Slash (Spread) | 2DD + 1CL - Slash (Spread) | 2DD + 1CA - Slash (Area) | ||||||||
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56 | General guidelines on how to equip the backline, although there is more room for changes according to each fleet and your personal preference. | ||||||||||
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58 | For Battleships: | ||||||||||
59 | Officer's Sword | ||||||||||
60 | This augment is pretty much Best in Slot (BiS) for battleships in most situations. They really appreciate the additional HIT boost, and the EVA is essential for soaking up extra hits due to small amounts of EVA greatly increasing battleship eHP. | ||||||||||
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65 | This is a niche option for those who want to build their backlines more aggressively. The extra FP stat as well as 5% damage boost to heavy armor is nice for offensively oriented battleship fleets, though it generally pales in comparison to Officer's Sword. | ||||||||||
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71 | Scepter | ||||||||||
72 | For single carrier fleets, the carrier should use the Scepter. For fleets with more than one carrier, they may opt to use the other module but it is highly recommended to give them the Scepter as well due to the EVA increase. | ||||||||||
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77 | This augment is generally used only in fleets with more than one carrier and is equipped on the slower launching carrier to take advantage of the AVI increase from Scepter's skill. | ||||||||||
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83 | There are no submarines in PVP you goober | ||||||||||
84 | EDIT: No longer true thanks to Kursk. (Though you can argue they're not actually real subs) | ||||||||||
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1 | Gear Breakdown | |||||||||||
2 | Last Updated: 30/07/2024 | |||||||||||
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4 | This additional section was added to provide more in-depth information on how some gear items interact and on what constitutes replacements/swaps, as there isn't enough space in the main gear sheets to really describe the nuances. | |||||||||||
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6 | Important Auxes | |||||||||||
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8 | Beaver Badge | Pearl Tears | These two items are must haves in any PvP fleet. Beaver Badge increases your vanguard's speed by 20% and Pearl Tears heals your entire fleet by 10% of their maximum health when the ship with it equipped sinks. It is generally good to have Pearl's Tears in your vanguard. Beaver Badge can be used anywhere, depending on personal preference. | |||||||||
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11 | WNT | WNT while used in the flagship position makes both sides deal 15% less damage, so it is strong in stall fleets. HMS Vanguard, in particular, negates the downsides of using it due to her damage buffs. A lot of players also use WNT off-flag because of its extremely good EVA + HIT stats, making it a top-tier defensive item even with its skill inactive. | ||||||||||
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14 | AvGas | Drop Tank | AvGas is a must have on any CV in PvP because it increases the speed at which planes arrive in addition to plane maximum health. This is especially important in CV mirror matchups, where you are fighting another CV and want to intercept their planes at an advantage. Drop Tank increases plane health but does not increase plane speed. So it's a significant downgrade, albeit a viable alternative. Do note the plane HP buff from these two items does not stack. | |||||||||
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17 | AFCR | HPFCR | These two items function the same, as they have the same BB load reduction skill. They are a must have for the majority of BBs due to how effective the 15% first salvo reduction is. The main difference is AFCR has higher total stats in exchange for being significantly more expensive to enhance. Similarly to AvGas and Drop Tank, the cooldown reduction from these two items does not stack. | |||||||||
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20 | Goldburn | Alizarin | Cyanide | RPG Interface | These event items all give 550 HP at +10 and 640 HP at +13, which is already significantly higher than a purple toolbox. But on top of that, they also give additional effects, making them extremely powerful in PvP where every little bit matters. Goldburn gives 38 RLD if equipped by a vanguard ship, which often makes it one of the best in slot items. The Cyanidin Support Towel gives a 2% HP shield, the Alizarin Support Towel gives 3% increased FP, TRP, AVI, and RLD for 15s upon battle start, and the RPG Adventure Interface does a random powerful effect. This can get pretty complicated, so we suggest looking on the wiki link above each item's sprite directly, as explaining it here would take multiple paragraphs. | |||||||
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25 | Aux Alternatives | |||||||||||
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27 | Fairy Magic | SG Radar | Fairy Magic Poster and the gold SG Radar are nearly identical statwise, with FMP having only 1 more HIT. However, FMP can be used on CVs while SG Radar cannot. Most notably, Fairy Magic Poster reduces the damage of the first 3 hits on any Northern Parliament ship that has it equipped to 1, which makes it extremely valuable on Sovetsky Soyuz. | |||||||||
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30 | Int. Chip | Ankimo | Boilers | These are all collab-exclusive purple boiler equivalents, as at max enhance level they have 8 SPD and a similar amount of HP. The difference is Ankimo and Int. Chip both give 290 HP at +13 as opposed to Boiler itself giving 260 HP at +11. | ||||||||
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33 | Wirbel Luft | Expo Ticket | Wirbel Luft gives HP + SPD and is collab-exclusive, so we are unsure if it will ever rerun. Expo Ticket is an alright alternative, though it was also event-locked. However, Expo Ticket is more likely to rerun due to it being from an actual Azur Lane event and not a collab event. | |||||||||
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36 | Cosmic Kicks | Barometer | Cosmic Kicks is unique in that it is one of the few items that gives both EVA and SPD, making it extremely useful on the vanguard. While it is obtainable in War Archives now, some players may not have been around long enough to have 2 (from the original event run) or have destroyed their Cosmic Kicks (OOF). The Oasis Barometer is an acceptable alternative in this case. | |||||||||
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39 | Gamers Mark | Shinobi Attire | Plum Poetry | AF Report | These aux items all have 550 HP at +10 and 640 HP at +13 (with the exception of AF Report, which cannot be enhanced to +13) much like the event aux items mentioned in the previous section. However, they do not give additional effects and only give a large amount of HP, making them excellent alternatives if you lack the aforementioned aux items. Most are event-locked. Some of these are collab-exclusive and may potentially never rerun again. Celestial Body and Seal of the Four Gods are easily obtainable in the base game (from War Archives and Core Data shop, respectively). | |||||||
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41 | Celestial Body | Seal of 4 Gods | ||||||||||
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44 | General Gear | |||||||||||
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46 | Twin 457 | Twin 406Mk4 | The Twin 457mm is generally your bread and butter on most BBs (And Kearsarge too). However to avoid the firing delay from universal cooldowns (also known as Gun Jamming), often shots must be staggered. This means if you run 3 Twin 457mm guns, you will often fire slower than an opponent that is running a mix of different guns. The Twin 406mk4 gun from the gear lab is a great staggering alternative, as it still has excellent damage but fires much quicker. | |||||||||
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49 | Twin 406mm | Twin 410 Kai | In the event you somehow need HE guns on a BB, these two are usually your best bet, just remember to properly stagger your BB shots if you intend on using multiple BBs. | |||||||||
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52 | Twin 381mm | 305mm SKC | Some BBs deal the majority of their damage through their barrage skill, which triggers when they fire. This means it's best to sacrifice shelling damage for a faster firing gun, such as the ones shown. | |||||||||
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55 | Quad 152mm | PR 152mm | Twin 137mm | PR 130mm | Aux gun choice for BBs depends on position due to the range of secondary guns. If the BB is the flagship, it is best to run the Quad 152mm gun or the PR 152mm gun. Otherwise, the BB is best off running the Twin 137mm gun or the PR 130mm gun, as both have 70 Range, with the Twin 137mm gun generally being slightly better. | |||||||
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64 | Tea Torps | Black Torp | Tea Torps are usually combo'd with the Black Torp aux item so the first wave of torps homes in on enemies. However, this does slow their trajectories and some players prefer to run Tea Torps without homing. | |||||||||
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67 | STAAG | Hazemeyer | These two AA guns both give HIT, which is an extremely important stat for BBs. The STAAG gives 10 HIT while the Hazemeyer gives 5 HIT. It is generally better to use the STAAG if you can afford it. HIT is also a good stat to have for certain DDs and CLs that launch torpedoes. | |||||||||
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70 | Twin 57mm | Sex Bofors | The Twin 57mm AA gun deals more DPS, but the Sex Bofors has higher alpha damage. So your choice will depend on whether you believe the ship that needs it can hit an enemy plane more than once. | |||||||||
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1 | Term | Alternatives | Description |
2 | +# | Refers to the number of bonus points. There is, however, no exact agreement on what exactly that means without further context. For example "I got a +2" could mean the player did 1 exercise and got 2 points above the base score (e.g. 12 points at Admiral rank) or they got 2 total bonus points during the reset, (e.g. 2x 11-point exercises and 3x 10-point exercises at Admiral rank) and it is often impossible to tell without asking for clarification. Some players also refer to bonuses by their absolute score amount as opposed to just the number of bonus points. For example "I got a +11 this set" is much more likely to mean they got a single exercise with 1 bonus point as opposed to getting 11 entire bonus points during one reset. Negative bonuses are referred to in the same way, with examples such as "-1" and "+9" meaning the same thing (1 exercise with a point below the base score after Rear Admiral rank). Some players may also use this terminology to refer to whether someone is a bonus by citing the point difference. For example "I rolled SaltyArrow but he's +34 FeelsBadMan" could mean the player in question encountered SaltyArrow on their list of opponents but their score was not large enough of a difference to give any bonus points upon fight completion. | |
3 | AoTN | Short for "Admiral of the Navy", the highest possible rank in Exercises. Requires the player to be top 10 on the server with a score above 2200. | |
4 | Attack | Attempt, Fight, Exercise | Refers to a singular exercise. |
5 | Bonus | Refers to whether an opponent will give you bonus points as opposed to the base score. After Rear Admiral, this almost always means an opponent who is +35 or more points above you. Example: "I just rolled SaltyArrow. They're a bonus because they are currently +37 above me." | |
6 | Collusion | The controversial strategy of asking other players to finish before you in order to acquire bonus points as opposed to sniping organically. This has mixed results depending on who you ask and is often frowned upon within many communities. Use at your own risk. | |
7 | Collusionist | Colluder, Unethical, Kenny | A player that uses the controversial Collusion strategy. |
8 | Comp | Fleet, Setup, Loadout | Usually refers to a player's Attack Fleet composition. |
9 | Def | Defense, Defense Fleet | Refers to a player's Defense Fleet composition. |
10 | eHP | Short for "Effective Health Pool", i.e. the total amount of maximum health after all evasion and damage reduction is factored in. | |
11 | EoS | Short for "End of Season", usually referring to when a player achieves Admiral of the Navy in the last few moments of the season as opposed to when it is first possible. | |
12 | EoSer | Hyperbagger, Tryhard, Sweatlord, Total Loser, Famine Wannabe | Refers to a player that seeks EoS as opposed to normal AotN. |
13 | Jam | Getting stuck, Trampled, Absolute Cooldown, Delayed | Due to the nature of how the game works, BBs with near-identical firing cooldowns will inevitably cause delays because the game does not stack multiple BB firing sequences, unlike CVs. This phenomenon is known on CN servers as the "Absolute Cooldown", but EN players have decided on the simpler term "Jam". Example: My BBs got Jammed. I should change their gun setup. |
14 | List | Refers to the 4 opponents you have in the exercise screen. Players will often describe the quality of their list. For example the phrase "I have a dead list" means they currently have 4 opponents who are unlikely to give bonuses. | |
15 | Mover | More of a relative term. Usually refers to a player that finishes their exercises before the one using said term. For example: "NoobAsian is a mover. He always finishes 2 hours before I do". | |
16 | Moving | Refers to when a player does their set of exercises, whether it be 0/10 or 5/10. | |
17 | Overcap | When sandbagging goes wrong, a player may not finish all of their required attacks before the reset happens. For example overcapping at 7/10 means you have overcapped 2 attacks (7 + 5 would give 12 total attacks, but you can only hold a maximum of 10 attacks, hence you overcap 12 - 10 = 2 attacks) and your score may be lower than previously expected. This is essentially identical to losing as the points from the missed attempts affect your score as much as losing the same amount of fights. Even the most seasoned of PvP veterans have overcapped at least once. Overcapping remains the #1 killer of PvPers worldwide. | |
18 | Pace | Refers to the projected EoS score generated by various bots and tools. A popular example is Cheshire, a bot maintained by Deathkt that is present on every major PvP discord server. | |
19 | PvP | Exercises, Skill Based Gamemode | The gamemode we all know and love :^) |
20 | PvPer | pvp nerd, exerciser | One who plays Exercises. |
21 | R# | Rank # | Refers to the rank number of the player. For example "I rolled R1 with my last refresh. Wow, I'm so lucky!" translates to "Wow, I rolled the #1 Ranked player on the current leaderboard with my last refresh! Wow, I'm so lucky!" |
22 | Refresh | A player may tap the "New Opponent" button up to 5 times per day. This is a core mechanic of PvP. Newer players may use refreshes to dodge fights with harder fleets while experienced players will generally use them to roll higher bonuses. | |
23 | Reset | Retry, Attempt | Higher-leveled players generally retry fights very infrequently but will often use the term "Reset" to mean this, despite the word "Reset" also referring to the way exercises are distributed from the 3 daily sets. This is the less common usage of the term. |
24 | Reset | Set, Time Gate | The current PvP time period. Once the period ends, you get an additional 5 exercise attempts no matter how many you had before, up to a maximum of 10. This may be 6 or 12 hours depending on the time of day. Each day has 2x 6-hour resets and 1x 12-hour reset. The 12-hour reset is generally referred to as the "Long Set" or "Long Reset" for self-explanatory reasons. This is the more common usage of the term. |
25 | Roll | Refers to when you finish an exercise and get a new list or when you get a new list upon using a refresh. | |
26 | Rusher | A player that uses the "Rushing" PvP strategy. Sometimes erroneously used to refer to Movers. | |
27 | Rushing | Refers to the PvP strategy where a player uses up all their exercises down to 0/10 every set. Very commonly misused or conflated with "Moving". | |
28 | Sandbagger | Bagger, Late Mover | A player that uses the "Sandbagging" PvP strategy. |
29 | Sandbagging | Bagging, Lagging, Moving late, Time Gating | A PvP strategy with the core concept of finishing a set at 5/10 as late as possible before the reset ends as opposed to going down to 0/10 in order to maximize bonus points. |
30 | Sandyfication | The bizarre concept that all PvP scenes on EN servers will eventually become like that of Sandy, where bonuses are hard to acquire and EoS scores are extremely low. | |
31 | Skill | Luck | Contrary to popular belief, after learning most of the basics, the only thing that separates players is luck as opposed to skill. Sometimes you will roll easy opponents that give high bonuses. Other times you roll difficult opponents that give you nothing. There are a massive amount of memes and jokes about this, this entry in the glossary included. |
32 | Sniping | Waiting for another player on your list to finish before attacking them in order to get a bonus, or in rare cases, avoid a +9. | |
33 | Walled | When you have to retry against the same opponent multiple times due to their defense fleet being strong. | |
34 | WR | Short for "Win Rate". Refers to the overall win rate of a fleet versus another fleet on attack. Numbers may vary wildly depending on gear and testing methodology. | |
35 | Yukana'd | Retconned, Deleted from the Sheet, Erased from Existence | The unique situation in which a player finishes at a high rank too late to be in the Mutsuki Network leaderboard snapshot, as the snapshots are generally taken during the last 10 seconds of the season. First recorded happening to Yukana of the Amagi server. It has since become a rare and highly memed about phenomenon, especially on servers with more competitive PvP scenes. |
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1 | Appendix: Meta Museum | |||||||||||||||||
2 | Last Updated: 17/10/2024 | |||||||||||||||||
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4 | Disclaimer: The compositions shown for these fleets are contemporary to their origins, (for example using Juneau without her retrofit because her retrofit was not released back then). Also, this meta history ONLY applies to EN Azur Lane. JP and CN regions have a much different meta history due to the order of event releases, content differences, etc. | |||||||||||||||||
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6 | If you remember all of these fleets, you are officially qualified to live in the Azur Lane EN PvP Retirement Ranch (tm). | |||||||||||||||||
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11 | Prehistoric PvP | |||||||||||||||||
12 | These fleets are as old as time itself, predating things we take for granted today such as WNT, Tea Torps, and the Continue button. Azur Lane EN was still in Open Beta, and many aspects of the game were quite different from what we see today, particularly the User Interface. Most notably, the EN servers Amagi and Little Enterprise did not yet exist. The reason this era is called "Prehistoric" is because records from this time period are scarce and often of low quality, with most things being known solely through word of mouth and public screenshots or videos that have since been deleted. The vast majority of players from this era have long since quit the game, though some say legendary Avrora PvPer Famine was already ancient even during this epoch. | |||||||||||||||||
13 | Hood + Akaga | |||||||||||||||||
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15 | One of the original PvP fleets during Open Beta, this fleet used easily available ships from the base gacha banners and campaign maps (especially Akagi and Kaga from 3-4) to quickly assemble a powerful PvP fleet. This archetype would be used for generations of metas to come and can still be found today as a starter fleet for new players. Its vanguard used Juneau for heals, Belfast to create smokescreen to dodge enemy Akaga launches, and the middle slot would often be a personal choice between Eldridge, Aurora, or anything else you could find (as players during launch often had limited resources and ships). | |||||||||||||||||
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20 | Hood | Akagi | Kaga | Juneau | Eldridge | Belfast | ||||||||||||
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31 | This fleet was an ancient USS based comp created using event ships from Fallen Wings and various ships in the base game (as this was shortly after EN launch). Eldridge, in particular, was extremely powerful due to her invincibility skill... until she got power crept. Often, battles were decided by brutal multi-minute long Enty vs Enty duels, with the winner being decided solely through RNG. Early PvP was a dark time in Azur Lane history. | |||||||||||||||||
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36 | Washington | Sodak | Enterprise | Juneau | Eldridge | Belfast | ||||||||||||
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47 | This fleet was created shortly after Winter's Crown Rerun released on EN (The original event predates EN's existence) and used Queen Elizabeth's incredible faction buffs to create a nearly unbeatable comp on attack and defense. Hood's early barrage and Duke of York's slow-on-hit proc made most enemy fleets easy pickings and Belfast's smokescreen made the vanguard incredibly difficult to hit. Aurora acted as a counterpick to enemy Belfast smokescreens. | |||||||||||||||||
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52 | Hood | QE | Dork | Juneau | Aurora | Belfast | ||||||||||||
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61 | Proto-Fox Fleet | |||||||||||||||||
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63 | On EN servers, Crimson Echoes actually ran before Ink-Stained Steel Sakura, causing a weird situation where people wanted to use the JP/CN meta fleet but couldn't due to Nagato not being obtainable at the time. Amagi would act as her substitute until mid-2019. Similar to HMS comps, Belfast was used to potentially block Akaga launches with her smokescreen and Aurora was used as a counterpick to enemy Belfasts. Though it fell out of the meta well over 3 years ago, it has since found new life as a beginner comp for new players, as observed in this sheet. | |||||||||||||||||
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68 | Amagi | Akagi | Kaga | Juneau | Aurora | Belfast | ||||||||||||
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75 | Souryuu | Hiryuu | Ayanami Kai | |||||||||||||||
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77 | Proto-Nagamiryuu | |||||||||||||||||
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79 | Created in the brief period between Visitors Dyed in Red Rerun (EN) and Ink-Stained Steel Sakura's release, this fleet briefly became strong in the meta as a counterpick to Proto-Fox Fleet and more aggressive fleet comps at the time, with Yukikaze and Hiryuu being especially difficult to get rid of. It didn't see widespread adoption, however, due to Nagato's release on EN quickly displacing it with the JP/CN styled Fox Fleet and Namagiryuu. | |||||||||||||||||
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84 | Amagi | Hyuuga Kai | Hiryuu | Juneau | Yukikaze | Belfast | ||||||||||||
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91 | Aurora | |||||||||||||||||
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94 | The Classical Era | |||||||||||||||||
95 | This era began with the UI update and the end of Open Beta. With the addition of the PR system, numerous new items were added to the game. Gear no longer had to be farmed from map drops or RNG boxes, greatly increasing the overall strength of the average EN player. From here, the PvP meta changed radically and rapidly as the gamemode became more and more accessible to new players. It was during this time that many historic players made a name for themselves, especially with the establishing of duoenvy's community-run leaderboard spreadsheet. The meta still differed significantly from CN/JP, however, due to the game still catching up to those regions. | |||||||||||||||||
96 | Fox Fleet (Nakaga) | |||||||||||||||||
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98 | This fleet was already meta for a very long time in JP/CN after Nagato's release made Akagi and Kaga extremely strong. The three foxes substantially, with Nagato's faction buffs stacking on top of Akagi and Kaga's twin buffs to deal massive damage. To a lesser extent, this was also seen in Souryuu and Hiryuu, which were sometimes used as alternatives (then known as Bunny Fleet). Similar to HMS comps, Belfast was used to potentially block Akaga launches with her smokescreen and Aurora was used as a counterpick to enemy Belfasts. Though it fell out of the meta well over 3 years ago, it has since found new life as a beginner comp for new players, as observed in this sheet. | |||||||||||||||||
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103 | Nagato | Akagi | Kaga | Juneau | Aurora | Belfast | ||||||||||||
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110 | Souryuu | Hiryuu | Ayanami Kai | |||||||||||||||
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112 | Namagiryuu | |||||||||||||||||
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114 | With the releases of Amagi, Nagato, and Yukikaze, this powerful tanky fleet became dominant in the meta. It stayed strong for almost an entire year before being eventually being replaced by Namawarkai. World 10 also gave us Jintsuu and her retrofit, creating the stepping stones that would later lead to the creation of torpmemes down the line. | |||||||||||||||||
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119 | Nagato | Amagi | Hiryuu | Juneau | Yukikaze | Belfast | ||||||||||||
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126 | Jintsuu Kai | Ayanami Kai | Sanrui | |||||||||||||||
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130 | An alternate to Namagiryuu that used Hyuuga (Retrofit) to pummel enemies as they got close to the backline due to her Melee Artillery skill. Due to the nature of this fleet, it was more commonly used on defense than attack. | |||||||||||||||||
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135 | Nagato | Amagi | Hyuuga Kai | Juneau | Yukikaze | Belfast | ||||||||||||
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142 | Jintsuu Kai | Ayanami Kai | Sanrui | |||||||||||||||
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146 | A fleet comp developed shortly after the release of PR1, using Monarch as a direct upgrade to Hood and Warspite to quickly snipe off a backline enemy. While an effective backline, it could not compete with IJN faction buffs from Nagato once Azuma was released in PR2, mere months after PR1 came to EN servers. | |||||||||||||||||
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151 | Monarch | QE | Warspoot | Juneau | Yukikaze | Belfast | ||||||||||||
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158 | Ayanami Kai | Sanrui | ||||||||||||||||
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160 | Namawarkai | |||||||||||||||||
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162 | With the release of PR2 and Warspite Retrofit, this fleet became extremely strong, dominating the meta for quite some time due to Warspite's snipe position skill allowing her to effectively counter all CVs by hitting them before they could launch, pushing the meta towards Triple BB dominance. It eventually reached the point where every fleet was using 3 BBs and each BB ran VH Armor or Rudder in order to tank Warspite's snipe skill. Full tank vanguard comps were commonplace due to the length of these battles and sometimes exercises would lead to grueling 1v1 Yukikaze duels. | |||||||||||||||||
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167 | Nagato | Amagi | Warspoot | Azuma | Yukikaze | Juneau | ||||||||||||
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174 | FDG | Sanrui | Ayanami Kai | Noshiro | ||||||||||||||
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177 | Late Classical Era | |||||||||||||||||
178 | Though technically a continuation of the previous era's way of PvPing, the notable addition of the CV Stealth mechanic had massive ramifications in PvP. Sniping using Warkai was effectively dead immediately and the meta quickly shifted to CVs and non-aimed barrages. Of great significance is the fact Operation Siren was released during this era, pushing gear to a level above what was possible before and subsequently laying the foundations for Torpmemes. Although there weren't many new fleets created during this era, it did last for quite some time (nearly an entire year). This, combined with the high dominance of IJN fleets in the previous era, has led to many players referring to this general time period as "IJN Meta". In total, both epochs combined lasted about 2.5 years. | |||||||||||||||||
179 | Shinaryuu/Namaginano | |||||||||||||||||
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181 | The predecessor to Weeb, this fleet was popular before New Jersey's release and dominated the meta for nearly an entire year, using the powerful new Exercise gear (such as WNT) to ensure its survival until Shinano and Hiryuu launched. The new Gear Lab, added alongside Operation Siren, also gave Shinano and Hiryuu massively increased damage thanks to Wyverns and gold plates allowing up to +13. Fights would often last over a minute in mirror matches due to the slow and heavy nature of this fleet, something completely unimaginable in modern PvP. It has since fallen out of use due to numerous stronger options being available, and is now seen only in lower ranks, often used by older players who have not PvP'd competitively in years. | |||||||||||||||||
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186 | Nagato | Shinano | Hiryuu Kai | Azuma | Yukikaze | Juneau | ||||||||||||
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193 | Amagi | Sanrui | Ayanami Kai | Noshiro | ||||||||||||||
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197 | Hiryuu's extremely powerful retrofit made it so that Namagiryuu once again became relevant, particularly because Amagi's barrage did not require targetting and thus always hit the backline even if they were not yet revealed. Ultimately, the fleet could not directly compete against Shinaryuu so players opted to create an aggressive vanguard composition using Noshiro, Naganami, and Jintsuu Kai that would become infamous throughout the entire Azur Lane community under the name "Torpmemes". | |||||||||||||||||
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202 | Nagato | Amagi | Hiryuu Kai | Noshiro | Naganami | Jintsuu Kai | ||||||||||||
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212 | The Preload Revolution | |||||||||||||||||
213 | The previous era came to an abrupt and violent end as the consecutive releases of Italians, Perseus, and the second ever UR, New Jersey, decimated the once stable IJN meta. Preloads cemented hyper-aggression and burst damage as the norm. Fleets became so aggressive that Juneau dropped out of the meta entirely until Anchorage's release brought back stall comps from certain doom. Despite the massive shift in the meta, this time period was actually rather short, lasting about 3 months from the first preload comp to the creation of the original Mafia fleet. | |||||||||||||||||
214 | Roman Bukakke | |||||||||||||||||
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216 | The first true preload comp, named... rather lewdly... by NotADegenerate. It combined the unstoppable synergy of the new Italian ships and the old powerful torpedo vanguards to create a nearly unbeatable force in PvP. But like many other pre-Mafia preload comps, it saw limited usage on the ladder due to how NJ's event would run very shortly afterward, rendering new comps with the Italians that did not use New Jersey completely obsolete. | |||||||||||||||||
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221 | Richelieu | VV | Aquila | Noshiro | Naganami | Duca | ||||||||||||
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228 | Ayanami Kai | Jintsuu Kai | ||||||||||||||||
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232 | Another early preload comp. This one in particular used Perseus as opposed to Aquila. Though the comp was certainly not bad, Mafia had already taken over the meta by this time and the comp quickly fell out of use, especially after the first major EN PvP tournament. | |||||||||||||||||
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237 | Richelieu | Warspoot | Perseus | Noshiro | Naganami | Duca | ||||||||||||
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244 | Ayanami Kai | Jintsuu Kai | ||||||||||||||||
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246 | Proto-Mafia | |||||||||||||||||
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248 | Although very close to what would later become Mafia, this fleet comp saw very limited usage because there were only a few weeks between the release of the Italian ships and NJ's event running. During this time, most players had not fully leveled their Italian ships because most did not expect the meta to shift so drastically away from the existing IJN meta. | |||||||||||||||||
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253 | VV | Aquila | Warspoot | Duca | Noshiro | Seattle | ||||||||||||
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260 | Jintsuu Kai | |||||||||||||||||
261 | Mafia (Original) | |||||||||||||||||
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263 | Mafia worked by having both enormously high burst and sustained damage. The opening preloads into NJ barrage, then NJ volley, then Aquila launch was absolutely devastating to a meta that had gotten used to nothing happening for the first 22s of a fight. Meanwhile, more aggressive but fragile torp comps such as those using Warkai quickly ran out of steam against Mafia. This unique combination of heavy synergy/faction buffs, preload damage, and massive torpedo damage reduction all at once made it the perfect counter to pretty much all existing meta fleets. In addition, Duca and VV provided massive torpedo damage reduction so effectively that they essentially just removed Torpmemes from the meta entirely, bringing an end to the Preload Revolution. Once the meta stabilised around Mafia comps, Juneau started to reappear once again, especially with the arrival of Anchorage and Shimakaze. | |||||||||||||||||
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268 | NJ | VV | Aquila | Duca | Noshiro | Seattle | ||||||||||||
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275 | Jintsuu Kai | Juneau | ||||||||||||||||
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277 | The Age of Anchorage (and Shima) | |||||||||||||||||
278 | Anchorage single-handedly brought back the Tank vanguard playstyle, saving players from the near-instant deaths of the previous meta. Unfortunately, she also brought a friend, Shimakaze, who was so strong that she effectively power-crept all other fleets without her out of the meta. This odd dichotomy of Anchorage being necessary to counter Shimakaze and Shimakaze being necessary for Anchorage to be useful and effective created a very stable meta, one that ended up stagnating with little to no alternatives until players finally found a natural counter to Mafia using Weeb. But by then it was too late and Musashi was already on the horizon. | |||||||||||||||||
279 | Mafia (Final Form) | |||||||||||||||||
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281 | By this point, Mafia was exceedingly popular due to the EN PvP Tournament and various natural encounters on the PvP ladder. But with the arrival of PR4, the fleet was forced to evolve. It was discovered that due to Anchorage's smoke spawning the moment she launched her torpedoes, it was better if VV fired a bit later. The original 3 Italians were dropped down to 2 as Duca fell out of the meta in favour of Juneau which both extended the length of fights and allowed VV to fire outside of Anchorage's smoke timings. Shimakaze also necessitated that Anchorage be used everywhere, lest the vanguard be blown to smithereens in the first 3s of the fight. She was essentially a walking Torpmemes fleet in one slot. And thus, Mafia as most people would know it was born. This specific form of Mafia would remain relevant on the ladder for over an entire year. | |||||||||||||||||
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286 | NJ | VV | Aquila | Anchorage | Shimakaze | Juneau | ||||||||||||
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293 | Yukikaze | Noshiro | ||||||||||||||||
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295 | KMS Mafia | |||||||||||||||||
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297 | An early budget version of Mafia fleet using FDG as a replacement for NJ. Since she had no Fate Sim at this point, it was a noticeable drop in power due to FDG having 0 luck and less accuracy. Ayanami and Noshiro were also used as replacements for Shimakaze. | |||||||||||||||||
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302 | VV | FDG | Aquila | Anchorage | Ayanami Kai | Juneau | ||||||||||||
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309 | Yukikaze | Noshiro | Duca | |||||||||||||||
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311 | Double CV | |||||||||||||||||
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313 | This was an early attempt at a more aggressive alternative to Mafia created by players who were sick of the stagnation in the meta. Unfortunately, enemy Anchorages proved too powerful for preloads to overcome and the fleet did not see much widespread use outside of a few top players on various servers. | |||||||||||||||||
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318 | NJ | Chise | Aquila | Anchorage | Shimakaze | Juneau | ||||||||||||
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329 | Monofaction USS fleet, it relies on the high damage provided by Enterprise and New Jersey while being supported by Indep Kai. Indep Kai has an early strike which can help with revealing other CVs for New Jersey as well buffing Enterprise's AVI stat. While it can provide good burst intervals, it lacks any real defence and does not do enough damage to the current meta fleets to pose any real issues. Enterprise is only a threat during Lucky E, Indep is mostly a support ship and doesn't provide enough damage to match other ships. As such, in light of the newer ships, this fleet is rarely seen. | |||||||||||||||||
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345 | Developed in the sunset weeks of Mafia as a direct counter, Weeb's monstrous strength harks back to the old IJN meta with Hiryuu and Shinano. It was one of the first modern "Control" style fleets, intentionally being slower than other meta fleets but with a much higher overall winrate. In general the fleet preferred to run tanky vanguard loadouts to stall opponents in order to launch devastating airstrikes later into the fight. But this came at the cost of being far more expensive to construct (requiring 3 +13 wyverns) than Mafia. It has since fallen out of the meta due to its successor, Meeb, supplanting it entirely due to Musashi's massively superior barrage damage and anti-vanguard capabilities. | |||||||||||||||||
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361 | The release of HMS Vanguard and Jervis brought some serious experimentation to the table, with many trying to bring back the old Warspite Snipe playstyle. In particular, many thought to use a monofaction HMS fleet like in the Prehistoric PvP era. The results were ultimately lackluster and the fleet, while briefly part of the meta, was quickly abandoned as people went back to Mafia or embraced Weeb and Zoomer. | |||||||||||||||||
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366 | Perseus | Vanguard | Warspoot | Jervis | Shimakaze | Juneau | ||||||||||||
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377 | A variant of Mafia that was popularized by Lexington players after HMS Vanguard's release and PR5, Zoomer was aptly named for its lightning fast victories and focus on high dps, pummeling opponents with preload airstrikes and deadly torpedoes alike. The "proper" version of this fleet always ran Anchorage - Shimakaze - Harbin as its vanguard, though some took this even further and ran Noshiro instead to maximize torpedo damage. It has since fallen out of the meta due to Musashi and Juneau retrofit. Despite its relatively brief time in the spotlight, some traces of its playstyle can still be seen in modern meta fleets such as Yakuza. | |||||||||||||||||
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382 | NJ | Vanguard | Aquila | Anchorage | Shimakaze | Harbin | ||||||||||||
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392 | The Musashi Renaissance | |||||||||||||||||
393 | With the arrival of Musashi, Juneau's retrofit, and proliferation of PR5, PvP changed drastically again. In particular, Musashi's massive damage made it nearly impossible for older fleets to compete. The ones that survived all evolved to adopt her in some way. She was effectively as busted for the backline as Anchorage was for the vanguard. Meanwhile, the vanguard meta continued to be stagnant due to the weird equilibrium of Anchorage and Shimakaze described in the previous section forcing only one vanguard slot (Off Tank) to be swappable. Various different backline fleets popped up during this era, many invented on totally different servers by newer PvPers. It was during this era that new editors picked up the old Azur Lane EN PvP Guide and its work continues to this day. | |||||||||||||||||
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396 | The first major comp to come out of the Musashi Renaissance was Meeb, a direct successor to the old Weeb fleet. While it was very slow on attack, it had a nearly unmatched winrate when geared up, though this was extremely expensive, almost prohibitively so as it required an eye-watering 4 fully enhanced rainbow planes (3 wyverns + 1 tenrai). Mechanically, the fleet ran a stall vanguard fleet in conjunction with WNT on the flagship to prolong the fight so both Shinano and Hiryuu could launch airstrikes and topple enemies while Musashi's quick barrages made short work of enemy vanguards. And while this proved effective, players would eventually discover that the CV stealth mechanic could be used against it to cause its own downfall. | |||||||||||||||||
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412 | This fleet was experimented on very early after Musashi's release but didn't reach mainstream meta popularity until well into 2023 as it became a powerful counter-pick to MSN and HYMEN. What eventually made it strong was the discovery that the disadvantage of using WNT flag could be effectively negated by Vanguard's damage increase skill, giving this fleet a significant leap in tankiness despite having less eHP than many other fleets it was competing with (Milf, MSN, etc.) Unfortunately, its rediscovery came late as it was quickly outshined by Kearsarge and Jintsuu META dominating the meta, giving it a very unique and obscure position in EN Meta History. | |||||||||||||||||
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428 | A direction evolution from Zoomer, Yakuza used Musashi to quickly obliterate enemy vanguards and secure a quick victory. The fleet had 2 major playstyles depending on the goal and was extremely versatile in nearly every matchup it came across. As a testament to its sheer adaptability, Yakuza survived into the modern age using Jintsuu META and other radically different vanguard setups, abandoning Anchorage and Juneau entirely. | |||||||||||||||||
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444 | A now-extinct version of the modern HYMEN fleet comp, this setup was used at the peak of the tank meta that was formed in response to Yakuza, directly taking advantage of the way damage from BBs is dispersed among targets when a CV is destealthed to keep Hiryuu much safer than she otherwise would be. In addition, this also proved effective against Meeb, as the 2 BBs in HYMEN would focus down the enemy Musashi and ignore the unrevealed CVs. This would cause the attacker to win the vanguard fight and ensure an easy victory against 2 helpless enemy CVs. This abuse of the CV stealth mechanic would later become the catalyst for the growth of MSN. | |||||||||||||||||
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460 | A budget version of HYMEN designed for players that missed out on New Jersey. It has since faded into nonexistence due to New Jersey herself rerunning in 2023 and due to Kearsarge being a nearly-equivalent option that's available as permanent content (PR6), making FdG an obsolete pick for this fleet archetype. | |||||||||||||||||
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476 | FdG's fate sim made her significantly more PvP viable than before, as her buffs would no longer shift based on her remaining health and her barrage no longer depended on her position in the backline. This made her an excellent alternative to a CV in the already popular HYMEN and MSN fleets. Turns out, the CV stealth mechanic actually allowed BBs to focus down targets extraordinarily well, with Triple BB easily taking down fleets such as Yakuza and Meeb on attack. And for a while, the most recommended fleets were MSN and this one. As for the name, all three members of this fleet are MILFs. We are not degenerates. We swear. ;) | |||||||||||||||||
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492 | A variant of the original Triple BB fleet that used Warkai instead of Vanguard. In theory, Warkai would snipe either the top or bottom enemy backliners while New Jersey and Musashi would finish off the rest of the fleet. However, in practice this proved inconsistent and suffered greatly against enemy fleets without Warkai, as her snipe was no longer enough to bring an enemy backline ship to its knees like in the days of old. In addition, her miniscule health pool was a huge detriment. And with FdG getting a fate simulation later on, Warkai was not remotely the best option for a strong PvP fleet. Thus the fleet quickly became obsolete due to Warkai being unable to compete with modern UR BBs. | |||||||||||||||||
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508 | This battleship-heavy comp was originally developed on Lexington and popularized by Ari Naotonemai during the era shortly after Musashi's release. Like all Triple BB comps, it was very strong on both attack and defense. However, it had the unique property of varying wildly in strength depending on where UvH was placed (Flag vs Top/Bottom) since the damage reduction in PvP applied linearly on top of her own damage debuff, though she has a much higher chance to hit and slow enemy vanguards in the top/bottom positions. Notably, it never really caught on in the higher echelons of PvP due to UvH not being a very good PvP ship. | |||||||||||||||||
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524 | This was a meme comp that had surprisingly high viability due to a combination of a bug (mechs not dying in PvP) and Chise's preload stats. Functionally it was essentially just a Yakuza fleet with a weird vanguard. And while it was never truly top tier, it was extremely fun to use. | |||||||||||||||||
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529 | Musashi | Chise | NJ | Anchorage | Rikka | Yume | ||||||||||||
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540 | Bismarck Zwei's release heralded a few shifts in the meta that gave rise to some remarkably different fleets. But her debatable performance on attack led to the persistence of MSN and HYMEN on the EN ladder, which had already been well-established in the previous months. Thus to most players, the new fleets popping up in this section had little effect on their day to day PvP experience, with many not even realising there was a meta shift. Near the end of this era, the rediscovery of HMS Vanguard's interaction with WNT started to shift the meta back away from MSN/HYMEN in favour of Triple BB, but it was cut short by the arrival of Jintsuu META and Fortune META. | |||||||||||||||||
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543 | While it existed in the previous meta, MSN gained extreme popularity following the release of Bismarck Zwei, as it countered Yakuza and Meeb much like HYMEN did, but also countered Triple BB fleets using Bismarck Zwei which were notorious for being stronger on defense than attack. Functionally, MSN worked by stalling the enemy fleet long enough for Shinano to launch her planes and deal massive damage (due to using 2 +13 wyverns) while NJ and Musashi shredded the enemy vanguard and BBs. Unlike its counterpart, HYMEN, MSN could not be used with a more aggressive vanguard composition due to its reliance on Juneau healing. With the arrival of Kearsarge and Jintsuu META, MSN has gone the way of the dinosaur, reaching extinction as it failed to defend against the devastating torpedo and reveal onslaught of the newer fleets on both Defense and Offense alike. | |||||||||||||||||
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548 | Musashi | NJ | Shinano | Anchorage | Shimakaze | Juneau Kai | ||||||||||||
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559 | A rather controversial BB fleet created after the release of Bismarck Zwei, it had the very unique property of being significantly stronger on defense than on attack due to the positioning of Bismarck Zwei's black hole. Her summon, Geryon, also provided massive damage against vanguard ships and could bait shots from enemy BBs, making it sort of a soft counter to MILF. However, the fleet was annihilated by Shinano's airstrikes and thus remained in the shadows well into the modern PvP age, with the rise of torpedoes not helping its case. Some players continue to insist it is still the best possible backline comp (including one of the former sheet editors). Your opinion may vary. | |||||||||||||||||
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564 | Musashi | NJ | Bismarck Zwei | Anchorage | Shimakaze | Harbin | ||||||||||||
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573 | SEMEN | |||||||||||||||||
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575 | SEMEN (Named for Seydlitz/Musashi/New Jersey) was a fleet comp originally developed during the Bismarck Epoch, though variants still exist today. Initially there were very few Iron Blood ships viable in the vanguard positions, so players opted to run Aegir in the middle position and Shima in the off-tank position, which worked to trigger Seydlitz's buffs but definitely heavily affected the fleet's viability. Seydlitz's invulnerability and massive preload damage allowed the fleet to kill enemy vanguards much quicker than before, potentially leading to faster wins. It saw widespread use in the upper echelons of PvPers but never really caught on afterward due to the torpedo meta despite better vanguard options becoming available (such as Felix Schultz). | |||||||||||||||||
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580 | Musashi | NJ | Seydlitz | Anchorage | Aegir | Shimakaze | ||||||||||||
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591 | Named for its composition (Bismarck Zwei, Seydlitz, Musashi), this fleet relied on Bis2 buffing Seydlitz to deal high amounts of initial damage followed by high sustained damage to dominate the enemy. BDSM was originally developed on JP servers with a small cult following. However, it never became popular on EN due to extreme opposition to usage of Bismarck Zwei, despite Seydlitz solving pretty much all of Bis2's downsides by absorbing damage intended for her and allowing the fleet to run a meta vanguard setup with no issues. Like many other fleets using Bismarck Zwei, however, it is noticeably stronger on defense than on attack due to her black hole's spawn position. As the meta slowly shifted back towards 3BB, talks of this fleet's uses re-emerged but it permanently fell out of the meta once Jintsuu META was released. | |||||||||||||||||
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596 | Musashi | Bismarck Zwei | Seydlitz | Anchorage | Shimakaze | Juneau Kai | ||||||||||||
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607 | With the advent of Bismarck Zwei, a triple Iron Blood backline was not only possible, but actually viable in PvP. Seydlitz provided massive early damage, FdG provided substantial damage and tankiness, and Bismarck Zwei buffed both of them to a significant degree. Unfortunately, dropping Musashi made this fleet comp significantly weaker than expected and often it simply could not compare to the top tier backline fleets of its era. But that doesn't make it bad by any means. There were simply better options for most players, especially once New Jersey reran. | |||||||||||||||||
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612 | Seydlitz | Bismarck Zwei | FdG | Anchorage | Shimakaze | Harbin | ||||||||||||
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623 | Named for its historical interest, this fleet is a variant of Yakuza that arose due to newer pvpers not having New Jersey. Functionally, it is identical to the Yakuza fleet, overwhelming opponents using Aquila's preload damage using aggressive tactics to ensure victory. It is best off using the "Aggro" vanguard comp to secure kills early as both Aquila and Bismarck Zwei have poor followup damage and survivability. Despite it's strengths, Bismarck Zwei's barrage is not correctly placed for an attack fleet which leads to inconsistent results. It relies too heavily on the defence fleet's vanguard to be in the right location for it to be affected by the barrage. | |||||||||||||||||
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639 | An experimental fleet comp developed on Lexington by Ari Naotonemai and Aldarn. It was named both for its composition (Musashi + KMS = MK) and after infamous PvPer, OriginalMK, who achieved Rank #1 EoS for the first time in February 2023 after several years of trying. MK Ultra is a unique spin on the triple battleship comp that drops New Jersey in favor of Seydlitz for her early salvo and built-in survivability. Unlike many other Seydlitz fleet comps, MK Ultra does not require an Iron Blood vanguard ship to buff Seydlitz which gives it much more flexible vanguard options. This fleet has since been abandoned in favour of the SEMEN fleet archetype due to PR6 adding Felix Schultz. | |||||||||||||||||
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644 | Musashi | Seydlitz | FdG | Anchorage | Shimakaze | Harbin | ||||||||||||
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653 | Triple BB - "MK Alter" | |||||||||||||||||
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655 | A derivation of the MK Ultra fleet comp, MK Alter uses Bismarck Zwei to buff FdG as opposed to the more defensive pick, Seydlitz. While certainly strong on defense, it pales in comparison to many other fleets on attack due to Bismarck Zwei's generally poor PvP performance. Even with the additional heft of Geryon, it's not enough and there are simply far better choices one could make when constructing a backline fleet composition. Like most other aggressive fleet comps, this fleet comp prefers the "Aggro" vanguard comp to secure early kills and ensure quick victories. Unfortunately, its lack of backline defenses have made it obsolete in the modern torpedo heavy meta. | |||||||||||||||||
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660 | Musashi | Bismarck Zwei | FdG | Anchorage | Shimakaze | Harbin | ||||||||||||
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667 | Noshiro | Juneau Kai | ||||||||||||||||
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669 | Mafia 2 | |||||||||||||||||
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671 | With the 2023 rerun of the first major Italian event, many newer players were drawn to the allure and glory of the old Mafia fleet. However, without New Jersey, they could not create the comp in its original form and settled on this version, which we dubbed "Mafia 2". This fleet worked almost identically, relying on Italian synergies to outlast opponents while Musashi quickly annihilated enemy vanguards and backlines alike. Its lifetime on the ladder was extremely brief as New Jersey happened to rerun barely 2 months later, putting an end to this bizarre resurgence of Mafia as newer players swapped to using Yakuza and its superior descendants instead. | |||||||||||||||||
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676 | Musashi | VV | Aquila | Anchorage | Shimakaze | Harbin | ||||||||||||
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683 | Noshiro | Juneau Kai | ||||||||||||||||
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686 | The Torpedo/META Dark Age | |||||||||||||||||
687 | Jintsuu META and PR6's release effectively killed MSN and Triple BB. With the fall of Anchorage, the PvP meta regressed back into its former hyper-aggressive state, with backline comps becoming increasingly more defensive in a futile attempt to survive the onslaught of multiple preload torpedo volleys from often 2, or even 3 vanguard ships. A bizarre 3-way equilibrium arose between some popular vanguard compositions, creating a sort of stand-off unseen in the meta before which lowered winrates and scores throughout every server. This meta was noteworthy for being the first one to actually use META ships, which were thought to have been non-PvP viable for years before. This era was defined by its unpredictable matchups and quick wins yet also by its slow, drawn-out duels using Hiryuu and manjuu NJ. These factors together often caused many players to lose fights simply by looking away from the screen. | |||||||||||||||||
688 | Notable Vanguard comps | |||||||||||||||||
689 | Triple Torp (Paper) | Double Torp (Rock) | ||||||||||||||||
690 | Special mention here goes to explain the bizarre "Rock Paper Scissors" effect of the 3 major torpedo vanguards, which all countered each other. Triple Torp did enormous damage and essentially countered any comp that used Anchorage or Juneau. (Including the old stall vanguards). Anti-Torp countered Triple Torp by using Fortune META's slash barrage to remove torpedoes. Double Torp countered Anti-Torp by out-stalling it while still hitting the backline. The PvP community eventually decided Anti-Torp was the most comfortable out of the 3 vanguards to run as it was the least likely vanguard setup to lose multiple backline members to preload torpedo launches. TL;DR Scissors won. | |||||||||||||||||
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695 | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | Harbin | Anchorage | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | ||||||||||||
696 | Anti-Torp (Scissors) | |||||||||||||||||
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702 | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | Fortune M | |||||||||||||||
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704 | Yakuza (JintM) | |||||||||||||||||
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706 | Usually a fleet doesn't get mentioned in this archive twice. But Yakuza refused to die, instead quickly adopting the new vanguard ships to create the single most aggressive attack fleet in PvP history. At its peak, Yakuza with JintM was able to consistently do 5 exercises in the space of 2 minutes. Unfortunately, its reign was short-lived as it was quickly stopped dead in its tracks by the fleets that rose up afterward... | |||||||||||||||||
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711 | Musashi | NJ | Aquila | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | Harbin | ||||||||||||
712 | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||
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718 | Chise | Noshiro | ||||||||||||||||
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720 | 2CV - Mongolian Preload | |||||||||||||||||
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722 | A bizarre fleet created as an even more aggressive alternative to Yakuza, it had massive preload alpha damage in conjunction with the ultra deadly Triple Torp vanguard composition. The fleet sacrificed practically all defenses in favour of blowing up your enemy before they can fire/launch at you. It worked far more successfully than it sounded. Unfortunately its lack of follow-up damage and vulnerability to fleet comps using Hiryuu meant it never saw widespread use outside of some occasional shitposting. | |||||||||||||||||
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727 | Chise | NJ | Aquila | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | Harbin | ||||||||||||
728 | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||
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734 | Noshiro | |||||||||||||||||
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736 | ENVY | |||||||||||||||||
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738 | A powerful composition created on the CN servers, ENVY (eNJ - Vanguard - HirYuu) had a singular purpose in mind: raw damage. Like Yakuza, it used an aggressive torpedo comp to quickly obliterate opponents, using vanguard's damage buffs, Jintsuu Kai's crit buffs, and Jintsuu META herself to deal ridiculous amounts of damage with Shimakaze's torpedoes. New Jersey also helped take down enemies quickly with her 2 quick barrages and damage amplification. Hiryuu was used solely as a lifeline against tougher opponents. While very strong, the fleet saw limited used on the EN servers due to HYMEN + Anti-Torp countering it before most players were even aware of its existence. | |||||||||||||||||
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743 | Vanguard | NJ | Hiryuu Kai | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | Jintsuu Kai | ||||||||||||
744 | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||
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750 | Harbin | |||||||||||||||||
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752 | HYMEN (JintM) | |||||||||||||||||
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754 | With the death of MSN, HYMEN quickly rose up to replace it, using the powerful "Anti-Torp" vanguard fleet to assist its rise to power, as Juneau had quickly become too inconsistent in the torpedo meta to be viable. While it had excellent winrates against nearly all other fleets, its biggest problem came... from facing itself. Mirror matches with HYMEN became brutal RNGfests filled with retry spamming and usually ended in horrible Hiryuu vs Hiryuu duels. Meanwhile, the end of Anchorage's popularity also meant Manjuu NJ rose in prominence, forcing the average PvP match to be dealing with 2 invulnerable backline members. This remains Borgar Kun's least favourite meta fleet to date. | |||||||||||||||||
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759 | Musashi | NJ | Hiryuu Kai | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | Fortune M | ||||||||||||
760 | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||
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766 | Harbin | |||||||||||||||||
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768 | MK Hero | |||||||||||||||||
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770 | MK Hero (Also named after infamous Lexington PvPer OriginalMK), was an offshoot of HYMEN that sought to resolve the issue of HYMEN's terrible mirror match winrate. It succeeded, though barely, as instead of a near-50% winrate, MK Hero had close to a 70% winrate against HYMEN-like comps. Inevitably, as more players adopted MK Hero to counter HYMEN, the mirror match issue came back. And PvPers just accepted that retry spamming or losing when looking away from the screen was just a part of life. | |||||||||||||||||
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775 | Musashi | Kearsarge | Hiryuu Kai | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | Fortune M | ||||||||||||
776 | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||
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782 | Harbin | |||||||||||||||||
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784 | KENNY | |||||||||||||||||
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786 | Named for its composition (KEarsarge, NNew Jersey, HirYuu) and after infamous collusionist, KENNY PVP, this fleet was developed as an off-shoot of HYMEN that uses Kearsarge's CV reveal abilities to finish off the enemy backline within 1-2 full volleys while retaining HYMEN's extreme survivability and flexibility. In particular, the double USS backline allows Kearsarge to buff Hiryuu's airstrike damage by 15%, which is quite substantial. The advent of Laffey II and WNT + Vanguard fleets severely affected KENNY's viability, as Hiryuu was no longer mandatory to compete against torpedo comps and high damage became more valuable than high survivability alone. | |||||||||||||||||
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791 | Kearsarge | NJ | Hiryuu Kai | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | Fortune M | ||||||||||||
792 | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||
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798 | Harbin | |||||||||||||||||
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800 | KEN-A | |||||||||||||||||
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802 | This fleet was a more aggressive form of KENNY that used Aquila instead of Hiryuu for faster reveals and early damage against enemy vanguards. Like in KENNY, the double USS backline allowed Kearsarge to buff Aquila's airstrike damage by 15%, ensuring very high damage early into the fight. However, dropping an important safety net such as Hiryuu became a liability in high ladder play, where every second counted and restarting fights is dangerous and time-consuming. In addition, the lack of Musashi has become a serious liability with the appearance of Laffey II. | |||||||||||||||||
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807 | Kearsarge | NJ | Aquila | Jintsuu META | Shimakaze | Fortune M | ||||||||||||
808 | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||
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814 | Harbin | |||||||||||||||||
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817 | End of the Dark Age | |||||||||||||||||
818 | With the release of Laffey II in December 2023, the meta quickly shifted to adopt her. Not just because of her incredible damage reduction, but also because most players had gotten sick of the torpedo vanguard playstyle. Her ridiculous stalling power meant backlines could no longer run CVs safely, as she would always win a 1v1 duel against one. This gave rise to a large variety of BB-based comps that usually ran stall vanguards. Despite this, Juneau would not yet make a significant comeback due to the persistence of Jintsuu META and Fortune META making her healing inconsistent and unreliable. Shimakaze fell out of the meta after Fortune META's release due to Laffey II's incredible dominance. The resurgence of stall also meant Anchorage was viable once again, though most players continued to use Scissors (JintM/Laff2/FortM) due to Fortune META's poor synergy with Anchorage. | |||||||||||||||||
819 | 2.5BB (Monkey) | |||||||||||||||||
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821 | Named for its composition (MNK --> Monkey), this powerful BB + BBV fleet solved all of the problems its predecessors (Old Triple BB fleets such as MILF) suffered from due to Kearsarge's airstrike revealing enemy CVs. Monkey quickly dominated the previous meta's fleets due to Laffey II's incredible stalling power and NJ + Kear's more consistent DPS. This led to the slow death of Hiryuu-based torpedo comps such as HYMEN and MK Hero. Mechnically, like many other BB fleets, Monkey took advantage of the CV Stealth mechanic by quickly dispatching the enemy BBs then revealing and destroying the remaining enemy CVs. Divide and conquer. Unfortunately, despite its strength against Hiryuu fleets such as HYMEN and MK Hero, Monkey ran into problems against 3BB fleets that used WNT flag with Vanguard, such as Stepmom. | |||||||||||||||||
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826 | Musashi | NJ | Kearsarge | Jintsuu META | LaffII | Fortune M | ||||||||||||
827 | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||
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833 | Felix Schultz | Anchorage | ||||||||||||||||
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835 | 3BB (Stepmom) | |||||||||||||||||
836 | ||||||||||||||||||
837 | So it turns out when CVs stop existing due to Kearsarge countering them, the #1 counter to any Kear fleet is just Triple BB with Vanguard, like the good ol' days before Jintsuu META. What made this fleet comp stand out above all other Triple BB fleets was its interaction with WNT. HMS Vanguard's fleetwide damage buff skill effectively counteracted the downside of running WNT in the flag position, giving the fleet significantly more damage reduction than any opponent while attacking. The only real downside is unlike a Kear-based comp, this fleet did not reveal CVs. But its ability to swing fights in its favour due to the sheer difference in damage reduction could not be overstated. This was especially effective in matchups against Monkey, its main competitor. | |||||||||||||||||
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842 | Musashi | NJ | Vanguard | Jintsuu META | LaffII | Fortune M | ||||||||||||
843 | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||
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849 | Felix Schultz | Anchorage | ||||||||||||||||
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851 | 3BB (MILF) | |||||||||||||||||
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853 | As Triple BB rose from the ashes, so too did MILF. Resurrected from extinction by Laffey II, MILF got a second life as New Jersey became obtainable in the base game, making the fleet more accessible for many returning players. Many variants of this fleet without Musashi (Such as FdG - NJ - Soyuz) were common as well. The only two factors preventing MILF from reclaiming its throne as the definitive top BB fleet were FdG's poor accuracy/cooldown conflict with NJ and Vanguard's interaction with WNT flag. | |||||||||||||||||
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858 | Musashi | NJ | FdG | Jintsuu META | LaffII | Fortune M | ||||||||||||
859 | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||
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865 | Felix Schultz | Anchorage | ||||||||||||||||
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867 | 2.5BB (VIRGIN) | |||||||||||||||||
868 | ||||||||||||||||||
869 | VIRGIN (Vanguard - kearsarGe - NJ) was founded on two observations. Firstly, torpedo vanguards die quickly to each other and don't need the backline to sink them with a barrage such as with Musashi. Secondly, WNT flag has its downsides effectively negated by HMS Vanguard's increased damage skill, essentially providing the fleet enormous damage reduction for free. Thanks to Kearsarge's plane launches detecting CVs, this fleet quickly cleaned up after a devastating torpedo attack or attempt to stall out fights in order to deal massive sustained gun DPS. Its flexibility was nearly on par with HYMEN variants and with significantly more damage to boot. Its lack of Musashi and Soyuz made it significantly weaker than most other 3BB fleets in the meta, and the total absence of CVs in the meta made it quickly fade into obscurity, as the fleets it was designed to counter had already became extinct. | |||||||||||||||||
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874 | Kearsarge | NJ | Vanguard | Jintsuu META | LaffII | Fortune M | ||||||||||||
875 | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||
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881 | Felix Schultz | Anchorage | ||||||||||||||||
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883 | 2.5BB (Fresh SEMEN) | |||||||||||||||||
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885 | A derivative of SEMEN, Fresh SEMEN was originally used to counter 2BB+1CV comps, something that became no longer prevalent as a real threat in the meta. Like in SEMEN, the combo of Seydlitz's quasi-preload hitting the vanguard leading into Musashi's lightning barrage absolutely annihilated enemy vanguards (if it hit). Kearsarge allowed the backline to attack CVs earlier, which made this fleet have faster fights against older HYMEN and Yakuza comps. Much like Monkey and many other Kear-based fleet comps, the slow disappearance of CVs in favour of 3BB comps has made this fleet become a solution looking for a problem and it ultimately never really caught on. | |||||||||||||||||
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890 | Musashi | Seydlitz | Kearsarge | Jintsuu META | LaffII | Fortune M | ||||||||||||
891 | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||
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897 | Felix Schultz | Anchorage | ||||||||||||||||
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899 | 2.5BB (MK Villain) | |||||||||||||||||
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901 | Uh oh, it's time for MK's Villain Arc! (Musashi - Kearsarge - Vanguard). This fleet functioned identically to its 3BB counterpart, Stepmom, but by dropping New Jersey for Kearsarge instead, it gained more reliable reveals of enemy CVs (particularly enemy Hiryuus). Much like other Vanguard based fleets, this one used WNT flag without losing much damage output, giving it superior defenses and consistency. Kearsarge's slower reload also allowed Vanguard to run the 457mm gun without any absolute cooldown overlaps, something she could not do with NJ. However this made the fleet flounder in matchups against Stepmom, its immediate predecessor. While it held on for a while after the shift towards 3BB, Soyuz effectively drove this fleet to extinction as Vanguard's low damage and Kearsarge's slow loading speed pretty much guaranteed a loss against any fleet with Soyuz. | |||||||||||||||||
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906 | Musashi | Vanguard | Kearsarge | Jintsuu META | LaffII | Fortune M | ||||||||||||
907 | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||
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913 | Felix Schultz | Anchorage | ||||||||||||||||
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916 | The Soyuz Spring | |||||||||||||||||
917 | The release of Sovetsky Soyuz in March 2024 cemented the death of CVs and forced a slightly more aggressive meta. Her massive AoE barrage could hit stealthed CVs (even without targetting them) and its slow basically ensured certain doom for any VG hit by it. In particular, backline units could quickly be burst down by Soyuz's barrage due to the overlapping circular hitboxes, leading to the eventual re-adoption of Juneau as the meta evolved, though Fortune META remained more popular during this time. In addition, New Jersey became available in the base game as permanent content which made PvP far more accessible to new and returning players alike. | |||||||||||||||||
918 | 3BB (Heisenberg) | |||||||||||||||||
919 | ||||||||||||||||||
920 | Seeing as MSN and SEMEN were already taken by historical fleets, this fleet was named for "SMN = Say My Name". Now, let's begin cooking. Much like HMS Vanguard, Soyuz's barrage procs when she finishes loading, NOT when she fires. This meant even if her gun jammed with Musashi, the barrage will still proc as Musashi begins her lightning storm. This devastating combo either annihilates enemy vanguards or deletes an entire enemy backliner for free. Notably, her barrage can actually hit stealthed CVs with splash damage, though it cannot directly target them. This, Laffey II, and Kearsarge have pretty much cemented the 3BB archetype in the pvp meta for good. R.I.P CVs. The undisputed king of the meta for much of early 2024, this fleet was eventually supplanted by GoT on Alsace's release. | |||||||||||||||||
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925 | Musashi | Soyuz | NJ | Jintsuu META | LaffII | Fortune M | ||||||||||||
926 | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||
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932 | Anchorage | Felix Schultz | Juneau Kai | |||||||||||||||
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934 | 2.5BB (Musk) | |||||||||||||||||
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936 | MSK = "Musk". Unfortunately, this fleet fleet comp never bought Twitter. This fleets worked similarly to Heisenberg but ran Kear instead of NJ. While this gave the slight advantage of not jamming Soyuz's guns as hard, Kearsarge's lack of early barrage pressure and lower overall damage put it strictly below its 3BB counterpart (Heisenberg). And since New Jersey became available in the base game, there was little reason to actually run Musk over the better option. Like pretty much all fleets that were created before Alsace's release, it eventually was totally power crept. | |||||||||||||||||
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941 | Musashi | Soyuz | Kearsarge | Jintsuu META | LaffII | Fortune M | ||||||||||||
942 | Alternatives | Alternatives | ||||||||||||||||
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948 | Anchorage | Felix Schultz | Juneau Kai | |||||||||||||||
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968 | Like its name suggests, "Movies" (MVS) was a very flashy and aggressive comp. The spectacular and violent barrage procs followed by massive enhanced shelling damage made it a force to be reckoned with at the time. This did come at a great cost, however. Since none of the members of this backline were Eagle Union, the use of manjuu for invulnerability was dropped. Due to how quick Vanguard is, Soyuz can very comfortably run the Twin 457mm gun to fire last. But this will not give her the same level of synergy with Musashi's lightning strikes. Trying to make Vanguard fire last would waste her powerful team damage buffs. So it was kind of an awkward setup to play with. The fleet never passed Tier 1 and remained gimmicky during its tenure in the meta. | |||||||||||||||||
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1000 | Upon release, Alsace quickly shifted the paradigm as Fortune META was pretty much hard countered by massive HE preload damage. This led to the widespread re-adoption of Juneau, fully supplanting Fortune META. The most common backline fleet at the time (GoT) was composed of Musashi, Soyuz, and Alsace. It ended up being so much stronger than other options that the meta became unified under a single dominant fleet for the first time since Mafia. | |||||||||||||||||
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1003 | Soyuz shoots out icicles and Alsace burns everything. The name pretty much writes itself: A Song of Ice and Fire, which is the novel title of Game of Thrones (or GoT). Alsace's preloads annihilated enemy vanguards. Musashi + Soyuz together made devastating barrage combos and backline nukes. The 3 UR BBs were also overall quite tanky compared to pretty much everything else in the game. In addition, the creation of the "Standard" vanguard comp combined stalling, torpedo damage, and self healing all into one dangerous package. All 6 ships together made for an unstoppable PvP fleet. GoT would eventually lose its absolute uncontestable dominance over the meta once Eldridge (retrofit) was released. | |||||||||||||||||
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1 | Appendix: Sandbagging & EoS Guide | |||||||||||||
2 | So you want to be a true PvP Expert, eh? A player that doesn't just hit Rear Admiral every season. Just note that should you choose to commit, don't say we didn't warn you. | |||||||||||||
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4 | This is Essex. She doesn't even know what EoS means or what a 2589 is. | Reality Check | ||||||||||||
5 | Before proceeding further, we must first make clear a few things: 1) Most players don't care about PvP. The first reaction you should expect from someone else, especially on places such as Discord, Reddit, and Facebook is "Ew, what kind of loser even plays that gamemode? I just do it once a day for free merit" or some equivalent form of disgust. The overwhelming majority of players simply do not care and you should be very VERY aware of this. PvP is a niche gamemode and always has been, to the point that players who actively PvP are often looked down upon by the greater Azur Lane community. 2) There is no in-game reward for EoS. The leaderboard snapshots are entirely community-created because the game does not have a persistent leaderboard for Exercises. The previous season's leaderboard gets cleared immediately when a new season begins. Thus there are no in-game rewards for finishing AotN EoS and the developers do not seem to have any plans for it. If you would like to farm merit, just rush AotN. You actually get more merit (due to achieving AotN earlier in the season and thus a higher base amount of merit per exercise) than you would by sandbagging for EoS. 3) You won't get much recognition. This may be a corollary of #1, but is equally as important. Less than a small handful of players, often fewer than 10, seriously compete for EoS per server on most EN servers. It is more niche than EX mode. Remember this if you want to flex your scores, as it is entirely possible people will simply have no idea what you're even bragging about. 4) Even the devs don't care. Maintenance can mess with sandbagging. For example, a recent maintenance happened 2.5 minutes earlier than the daily reset, causing some PvPers to overcap. Meanwhile, during Microlayer Medley, the maintenance was extended by many hours due to server issues. Nearly all PvPers overcapped and some of them quit PvPing for good afterward. In addition, hotfixes may often come just a few minutes before a reset, making sandbagging a dangerous endeavour for those with unreliable internet connections. This grand indifference to PvP should be expected from the devs, as the gamemode is essentially just an afterthought that was probably coded in no more than a few days. You should also not expect a real update to the gamemode, as the merit shop has remained largely unchanged since the launch of the game, with very little being added since. | |||||||||||||
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7 | Still interested? Alright, let's begin. | |||||||||||||
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10 | Basic Questions & Answers | |||||||||||||
11 | This section assumes you have already read the Glossary sheet, as it deals with many topics that are impossible to explain in-place such as the concept of a "mover". | |||||||||||||
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13 | What exactly is Sandbagging anyway? | |||||||||||||
14 | In essence, Sandbagging is the playstyle of going to 5/10 before a reset hits as opposed to going to 0/10 in order to maximise the bonus points you get from other opponents, though it isn't quite that simple, as this page will later show. The reason sandbagging is beneficial in PvP at all is because bonus points in PvP come solely from attacking and defeating a player with a higher score (not rank) than you. This means you want as many people as possible to be above you to gain points when you inevitably have to finish your set. However, this does not mean you should just hold at 10/10 until the last 15 minutes of the set. Far from it. The whole point of sandbagging is to wait for people on your list to move before you do, thus widening the point difference and allowing you to claim bonus points from said difference, then repeating this as many times as physically possible in order to get as many bonus points as possible. In order to do this, your PvP playstyle must become attentive. You can no longer simply blindly rush through your set at a random point in the day and then wait. Sandbagging at its highest level involves tons of calculated risks, data collection, and time management but it ultimately boils down to reducing the RNG reliance in this gamemode. | |||||||||||||
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16 | Who should I attack? | |||||||||||||
17 | While sandbagging, your goal is to maximise points. So you should always try to defeat your leftmost opponent as they will have the highest positive score difference from you. There very few situations where you should try to fight anyone else on your list. But they generally narrow down to: 1) Both your leftmost and 2nd leftmost opponents will give identical bonuses (including 0 and negative amounts) and your 2nd leftmost opponent has an easier fleet so attacking them will save time. 2) You are unable to defeat your leftmost opponent (walled). Thus you should settle for your 2nd leftmost opponent instead. 3) You are intentionally lowering your score (usually attacking rightmost opponent) for the sake of 1049 tech or some other specific early-season strategy. Also protip: you can change the gear on your attack fleet without exiting from the exercises screen! After toggling on the "CHANGE" button, tap and hold (or click and hold if you're on an emulator) on any of the 6 ships in your attack fleet to bring up the ship's info and equipment. Swipe left or right to go between the other members of your attack fleet. You can thank me later. | |||||||||||||
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19 | Can I still use a leveling fleet while sandbagging? | |||||||||||||
20 | Sandbagging requires you to have a high winrate and to finish your PvP sets late, so the answer is almost definitely No. This is because after the Early Season, you will encounter harder and harder defense fleets until it becomes impossible to beat any fleet on your list without a fleet designed specifically for Exercises. It is best to use one of the many fleets featured in the Tier List section of this guide even if you only intend to farm merit as they tend to be the most well-tested and consistent setups in the entire game. | |||||||||||||
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22 | Do I need a strong defense fleet? | |||||||||||||
23 | Unlike in other games with PvP, defense fleets don't actually matter in Azur Lane. Whether someone wins or loses against you is impossible the track and the game does not reward or penalise you for either. This is why many players on ladder use meme fleets or oath flexes as their pvp defense fleets. Of course, that doesn't prevent people from setting tough defense fleets. But there is generally little benefit in doing so other than to bully newbies. Top PvPers will defeat you one way or another, as the attacker bonus pretty much guarantees a win, even if your defense fleet is strong. In fact, it may actually be beneficial to set a weak defense fleet early in the season to allow more players to get a free win off you as opposed to fighting opponents that give negative bonuses, as this will often result in higher scores. This will in turn give you more players to farm bonuses off of later on in the season when the required point difference for bonuses is large enough to become troublesome. Ultimately, defense fleets are more of a choice of personal expression than any real strategic value. If you're extremely lazy but don't want to set a meme defense, just set your defense fleet to be identical to your attack fleet. | |||||||||||||
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25 | How late should I finish my set? | |||||||||||||
26 | Ah, the age old question. There is actually no right answer, as history has shown players that move as early as 3 hours before the reset can indeed reach high EoS scores, and some players that have finished as early as 30 minutes before EoS have obtained rank 1 uncontested (such as 1ksade on Avrora). We generally recommend being prepared to start finishing your set at the very latest 15 minutes before reset to account for both long fights, retries, and occasional connection issues/game crashes. This value isn't set in stone. Sometimes real life gets in the way and you just can't afford to move so late so you just rush the set. Sometimes you're already 7/10 hours before the reset due to taking bonuses and can thus move later as it's not hard to do 2 exercises in under 10 minutes. Maybe you're in an EU timezone so you sleep through the end of set 2 and thus have to finish it 4-5 hours early. Or maybe you're a madman with lossless fiber internet running torpmemes who can afford to do 5 exercises in less than 3 minutes and the thought of almost overcapping every set turns you on. Ultimately it doesn't matter that much, especially in the early stages of the season, and deciding when to finish is really more of a deeply personal choice. Our only tip for managing your move times is When in doubt, rush the set. If you are unsure you will be available to finish your set by your usual move time, just rush. It's much better to eat a +0 reset than a -50 reset, as overcapping poses a far more significant threat than getting no bonuses. | |||||||||||||
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28 | How do I know my mover is a bonus? | |||||||||||||
29 | If it's early season, you don't. There's no real way to know if someone is a bonus on you if they are not in the top 100 leaderboard. But you can make an educated guess based on their current rank vs your rank and point count. Notably, this may also vary wildly per server, with some servers being large enough that someone 500+ ranks above you may still not give you a bonus. Ultimately, it's just by experience. And as you PvP more often you will eventually get a feel for if someone should be a bonus without even looking at the leaderboard. Also, most importantly of all: your PvP list does not reload itself automatically. You must manually log in and out of the game (or close and reopen the game, but relogging is faster) to update the ranks of the 4 players on your list. This is just how the game works and you will have to get used to it if you are sandbagging. | |||||||||||||
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31 | How can I be sure my mover will even move? | |||||||||||||
32 | Here lies the least fun part of Sandbagging, and really PvP in general. There's no easy way to be sure unless you collect tons of data or know someone else who does. This data is usually in the form of spreadsheets or screenshots of the top 100 leaderboard during different times of the day. If you don't know anyone else that has it, you'll have to make it yourself. But that's a discussion for a different sheet. :MutsukiCoin: If you're just sandbagging for AotN or achieving EoS once, you don't need to worry about this at all. | |||||||||||||
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36 | The Three Principles of Sandbagging | |||||||||||||
37 | Make sure to keep these in mind while you are sandbagging. | |||||||||||||
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39 | I. Make sure your attack fleet isn't bad. | |||||||||||||
40 | The #1 factor to failing to sandbag is just not having a good fleet. Often players will think because they've followed the Tier List and have assembled the ships required for the fleet they want to run, they can compete with no issues. They then proceed to complain when they get walled on the ladder and blame RNG or even cheating. This could not be further from the truth. Even if you have the right ships, having the wrong gear can seriously hinder a fleet's performance. (Some examples include: forgetting to bring Pearl Tears, using a stall fleet without WNT flag, and having the wrong guns on your BBs). Even with the right gear, the performance can vary greatly due to the difference in enhancement levels. A +10 version of an item is significantly worse than a +13 version, even if it may not appear to be at first glance. This is due to the hidden damage modifiers on items that you can only see in the wiki. The in-game UI will not tell you the details. In addition, the meta often shifts very quickly and you may find what was once a top tier meta fleet is now being destroyed out of nowhere (such as in the MSN --> Torp Meta shift of 2023). Always keep calm and re-evaluate your options. Observe the enemy fleets that give you trouble. Figure out what you can do in-game to make your own fleet stronger. At the highest level of play it is almost impossible to get walled because of this constant adjusting of items and ships. PvP does not reward an idle mind. | |||||||||||||
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42 | II. Keep a consistent schedule. | |||||||||||||
43 | The second major factor in failing to sandbag is overcapping. For example, you leave your set at 7/10, get distracted, and wake up to 10/10 with 2 missing exercises. Oops! You've just overcapped! Don't beat yourself up about it, though, it's just a game. But if you really care that much, just set some alarms and reminders to when you should finish your set. When these should be is entirely up to you based on your lifestyle and playstyle preferences. If you have a long work shift and can't afford to be interrupted to do PvP, just rush the set. If your timezone happens to fall into a nasty region (such as the EU) where you have to sleep through 2 entire resets, just zero out one of your sets. Consistency is the key to PvP and you may find yourself on track to be top 10 EoS for your server even without maximising point gains simply by not missing any exercises. This is due to how few people actually compete for EoS on most EN servers, as we mentioned earlier in this sheet. For additional help on consistent move timings, scroll down to the "Normal Sandbagging Methods" section of this sheet. | |||||||||||||
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45 | III. Don't ruin your life. | |||||||||||||
46 | The last and most important of the three principles. There is no need to be upset if things do not go your way. You've tried your best but didn't even get EoS? So what? It's just a game. And not only that, remember that PvP is a niche gamemode in a F2P gacha game about fictional 2D women based on (mostly) historical naval vessels. The game itself revolves around selling you pixelated boobs to make a profit. It is not by any means, a professional esport and PvP was never intended to be the main focus of this game. Do not treat it with the level of importance equal to a serious life activity such as university. Do not base your self worth and lifestyle around Azur Lane PvP. I cannot stress enough how important this is. If you truly believe Azur Lane PvP is your only calling in life, get professional help. Seriously. | |||||||||||||
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49 | How to Start a Season | |||||||||||||
50 | Method 1: Catch Rushers and Zero Out | |||||||||||||
51 | At the start of a season, regardless of your performance and number of exercises remaining from the previous season, you will be reset to 5/10 exercises remaining and be sitting in the first Long Reset (12h) of the season. The easiest way to start a new season is to rush to 0/10 but not immediately. During this time you will encounter a ton of fellow rushers who will finish before you do, allowing you to get free bonuses off them. Should you succeed, you will generally have a 140-145 start and can do normal sandbagging from there. | |||||||||||||
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53 | Method 2: Catch Rushers but Don't Zero Out | |||||||||||||
54 | Similar to the method above, this method works almost identically, quickly catching bonuses at the opening of the season to get a head start. However instead of going to 0/10, you should sit at 1/10 or 2/10 on a player you know will rush the next set, meaning you will be 6/10 or 7/10 at the beginning of the next reset. This can often lead to 145-155 starts with near minimal effort and is the most reliable way to enter Rusher Queue. | |||||||||||||
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56 | For both Methods 1 and 2, it is best to log in a few minutes after the season begins in order to catch rushers who will actually go to 0/10 and avoid players who simply do 1 exercise for their daily missions then ignore PvP. | |||||||||||||
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58 | Method 3: Sandbag the First Set | |||||||||||||
59 | A different method is to take advantage of the fact that you will be 5/10 when a season begins, not 10/10. This means you don't actually have to move on your next set and can just sandbag. This can result in extremely high season starts, such as 165-175 but at the cost of potentially missing out on Rusher Queue later on or occasionally failing to roll any movers and getting a sub-140 start. | |||||||||||||
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61 | Method 4: Totally Ignore Starting Strategies | |||||||||||||
62 | Realistically, your start isn't actually going to matter that much, especially if you're going for EoS. On smaller servers you will quickly hit the physical limit of the server if you get enough bonuses early, putting you in an extended Midseason. The same still happens on larger EN servers such as Avrora, but to a lesser degree. The main thing is just don't overcap your first set. You might think that's ridiculous, but it happens a lot more than you'd expect. | |||||||||||||
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65 | Analysis of a PvP Season | |||||||||||||
66 | Early Season | |||||||||||||
67 | In early season, getting bonuses is entirely a matter of luck. Checking frequently makes this a little bit easier but does not guarantee you will even roll bonuses, only that you will respond to them quicker, increasing the potential number of bonuses you can find. It is often better to just take your leftmost immediately if they are a bonus rather than wait for them to get an even higher rank. The general rule for telling if they have is to wait 5 minutes. If their rank has not changed or has gotten lower, just take them and try to get another bonus. It is better to get 2 +2s than a single +3. Since it's nearly impossible to roll -1s or worse in early season, refreshes are usually used aggressively to reroll your list into potential bonuses, though when you should reroll your list is a topic that requires a whole book of its own and will not be covered in detail in this sheet. Still, we have included 2 of the most popular check/refresh methods below, covered in brief. Depending on your playstyle, it may be beneficial to actually have a strong Early Season and then slack off during Midseason as it is usually much easier to gain a large amount of bonuses during this period of time. Do note that by AotN Day, all advantages of a strong Early Season will have vanished. This applies to all EN servers. | |||||||||||||
68 | Aldarn's Lookup Method This method relies on collecting as much information as possible about the 4 players on your list before making a quick decision on whether to keep your list. This includes: - Whether you recognise the player's name. (If you do, they are likely someone who regularly does their exercises and a safe bet) - The commander levels of each of the potential movers. (Higher tends to be better. You generally want above 110) - Their total number of exercises, which can be checked by searching up their profile in the Friends tab (More is almost always better) - Their overall winrate for exercises, also from the profile (Above 97% is good, below that is sus, but this is not a perfect indicator of whether they will move) After coming to a conclusion, you can decide whether to keep your list and bet on a mover or refresh immediately to try to roll a better list. | |||||||||||||
69 | Borgar's Waiting Method Borgar Kun believes that for early season, anybody can be a potential mover, especially the players you least expect. The key to this method is just sitting and waiting on your natural 10/10 list. More often than not, someone will have moved after about 30 minutes to 1 hour. If nobody has moved during this time period, reroll your list or just move forwards 1 exercise anyway if it's early enough in the season (usually only applicable on days 1-3. Later on you don't want to move forwards without any bonuses). You can easily chain this method into multiple movers throughout the set. If you are sandbagging during the Long Reset, increase the mover waiting threshold to 2 hours. The exception to this rule is if it's <1 hour before reset, then it's pretty much never worth refreshing or moving forwards and instead better to just wait until it's time to finish your set. The reason behind this is because with <1 hour remaining, the overwhelming majority of movers have already finished their sets and only other sandbaggers will remain, meaning the only actions left for you to do this reset are either finishing (starting at your preferred time such as 15 minutes) or attempting a snipe on a fellow sandbagger (covered in the Midseason section of the Analysis). | |||||||||||||
70 | Rusher Queue In early season, being above a certain threshold in score often makes it more likely to roll rushers. Thus, if a player is behind it may be beneficial to go to 4/10 instead of 5/10 at the end of a set in order to roll these players more often. This is known colloquially as "Rusher Queue" or "NO DATAing" and greatly loses its effectiveness the later one is into a season. | |||||||||||||
71 | 1049 Tech One of the most common ways to finish Early Season is by going to 1049 points instead of 1050 at 5/10 (if your score is not high enough to be well above 1050). The reason for this is that since you have not yet reached Rear Admiral Lower Half, the game will still use the previous rank bracket and point difference to calculate your next bonus, meaning it is guaranteed to get a +13 or higher for your next exercise instead of a +11 should you roll a bonus. Even if you do not get a bonus, you will end up 1061 at 9/10 on your next exercise as opposed to 1060. Some players intentionally attack their rightmost opponent as their last exercise in Captain rank to attempt to get a negative bonus in order to keep themselves at 1049 instead of 1050 or 1051. If you are on track for 1053 or higher, however, it is generally not advised to do this. | |||||||||||||
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74 | After the 1050 reset, (where you will be close to 1050 at 5/10) the point difference required for bonuses increases drastically from +24 to +35. This greatly reduces the number of bonuses you can acquire and sets the mood for how PvP actually works, as Midseason is the longest period of time in the season and many tricks and tips that apply during Midseason are still applicable during Late Season. Essentially, this is where the randomness of Early Season ends and the real PvP experience begins, though this will also depend on your score. It is still very possible to gain +3 or higher sets during the first week of Midseason if your score is low. Once your pace gets sufficiently high, it becomes almost impossible to get more than 2 bonus points per reset. This will almost always come in the form of 2 +11s and 3 +10s. By the 2nd week of the season, bonuses will slow to a crawl as less and less people finish over 35 points above you and you will often end up with +1 or even +0 sets. You will often also be on the top 100 leaderboard at 5/10 exercises remaining. Do not be alarmed, this is normal for Midseason. Overcapping a full set during this period is generally impossible to recover from, though overcapping 1-2 exercises can still net you EoS if you happened to do so early enough into Midseason. Because of this, it is generally much more important to finish your set than it is to try to maximise bonuses. If you happen to be in a situation where you are unsure if you will be around for the end of the set, just go to 5/10 and forget about it. Worst case you missed out on a bonus but if you are bagging for EoS, you will more than likely regain this bonus during AotN Day. Most notably, bonuses often no longer come from normal rushers during the second week of Midseason and generally come from baggers that move earlier than you do (such as players that move 1-2 hours before reset). Because of this, the aggressive reset strategies you may have developed for Early Season no longer apply, and you will have to learn to recognise who is and isn't a bagger instead to truly gain the most value out of midseason. There are many different ways to do this and you may want to contact other top players of your server for advice on how to keep track of movers, should they be friendly enough to actually share their strategies with you. Do be warned, contacting players you don't know just to talk about PvP may leave a bad impression. It is better to get to know them naturally through public spaces such as our Discord server. | |||||||||||||
75 | Greeding What separates a good sandbagger from a great sandbagger? Greed. Greeding is the act of burning a refresh for the sole purpose of potentially rolling into a bonus. This is decided entirely by luck and varies wildly between servers due to the number of movers. It thus has no general guideline. | |||||||||||||
76 | Sniping Not all sandbaggers are equal. And those with the guts can use this tech to get an edge over the others. The basic idea is if you happen to roll a fellow Sandbagger you recognise, you wait for them to finish in order to get a free bonus off of them. How long you have to wait will depend entirely on your comfort zone and even then, it is not a guaranteed bonus as some baggers move extremely late. In addition, differences in fleets, metas, and especially internet connections can cause great variance in results for a snipe. There is thus no general guideline for sniping. You'll have to figure it out on your own based on information only you know. | |||||||||||||
77 | Chaining Bonuses This is usually rare in early season (outside of Captain rank) due to point differences being too low to allow this behaviour. But it is possible to string bonuses together in a single set by taking your leftmost opponent and immediately rolling into another bonus. It is known colloquially as "luckshitting", as it is highly dependent on sheer RNG, but it happens more often than you'd expect. Since the inner mechanisms of the game's server sided code remain a mystery, we can only provide theories on how this can occur. Thus, this subsection should be considered speculative. Theory 1) There appears to be an increased chance to roll super high ranks at a certain position on the leaderboard. What this position is seems to vary from server to server. (For example on Amagi, it seems surprisingly common to roll someone Rank 25 and below while you are rank 140-160). This may occur due to the matchmaking algorithm. But it's impossible to know for sure due to it being server-sided. Theory 2) PvP scores have historically been right-skew, so the high end has many more extreme scores and thus it's paradoxically easier to roll bonuses the higher you are. (Until there are no more bonuses to roll due to being too high). Theory 3) It's legitimately all random and we are merely hallucinating a pattern that doesn't actually exist. (Very possible due to sampling bias and the flaws of human perception). | |||||||||||||
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80 | Despite being only one day of the season, AotN day gets a special mention because of the way PvP changes during this brief time period. With the large number of players trying to get Admiral of the Navy rank during Set 2 and Set 3 on Friday, 2nd week (Saturday for SEA timezones), bonuses once again become plentiful and players may often get +2 sets or even higher despite previously struggling to get through midseason without choking on -1s. For Sandbaggers that do not plan to rush AotN, this is the single most important day of the season, as it's often a deciding factor in if you can achieve a high EoS score, with many players behind the pace leaders making massive comebacks in a single set. The previous strategies from Midseason still apply, but due to the higher amount of rushers it's far easier to get away with Greeding and Chaining Bonuses than before. Often, even if you have a dead list, it may be worth refreshing when enough players get into the bonus range on the leaderboard (Above 15) in order to attempt to reroll into them. | |||||||||||||
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83 | Strategies start differing greatly during late season depending on which server you play on. On smaller servers such as Sandy and Washington, you can no longer use any refreshes and must save them to dodge -1s and -2s, often as early as 7/10. On larger servers such as Amagi, this is not as severe and some players may still use refreshes to fish for bonuses. In general, Late Season feels much more like Midseason than Early Season because at 6/10 it becomes very difficult to even roll into a +0. Most sandbaggers save the majority of their refreshes during Late Season to avoid these and often finish their last set of the day with 0 refreshes remaining. | |||||||||||||
84 | Not Playing the Game In Late Season, there are often so few possible movers that the only thing left to do is wait until the end of your set to do your 5 exercises and pray you don't eat a -1. In addition, refreshing will often result in a full list of -1s or below. Because of this, Late Season PvP tends to be extremely calm and almost boring, with sandbaggers being forced to practically ignore the game entirely. This process is jokingly referred to as "Not Playing the Game". | |||||||||||||
85 | Bonus Brainrot It is common to mistakenly believe bonuses can be accrued infinitely, especially after the sudden increase in movers during AotN day and the subsequent sets. But by late season this is no longer the case and it becomes a fight for survival. Many baggers continue greeding well into late season and suffer the consequences. Ultimately whoever wins (assuming equal pacing) is not the player who takes the most bonuses but rather the player that takes the least minuses. It is not shameful to finish a set with only a net +0 if your competitors eat net -1 or -2 sets. | |||||||||||||
86 | Zombie Lists Dead Lists, i.e. lists with no movers, are significantly more common during Late Season and often cannot be safely rerolled into ones with movers. With a high enough pace, the only way to really gain bonuses without losing them later is to get them from natural +1s you roll into while completing your set. These often occur at 9/10 and 8/10 even if your 10/10 list is dead, hence the name "Zombie List". Essentially, this late into the season your original 10/10 list no longer matters and it's rarely worth rerolling unless it's still entirely composed of -1s and -2s when you plan to finish your set (though this is extremely rare). | |||||||||||||
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90 | EoS is unlike any other set in PvP. Instead of finishing your normal 5 exercises, you must finish all 10 before the season ends. Logically speaking, this means all Sandbaggers are technically still rushers, only they just rush at the end of the season instead of earlier. Usually due to the sheer number of other players rushing during EoS, you will pretty much never find yourself at 10/10. It is common to be at 9/10, 8/10, or even 7/10 long before the season ends. Because you only get 5 refreshes per day at the start of the day, you will have to use these for all sets on EoS day, including Set 1 and Set 2. On servers with less PvPers, this means you will often have less than 5 for the final EoS climb. | |||||||||||||
91 | Don't Panic Fear is the mind killer, especially in PvP. EoS may seem big but it's still just a game. It may seem daunting to put all of 2 weeks of effort into a single event, much like a final exam, but the #1 thing is to remain calm. Approach it logically. Do not give in to fear and eat a -3 on your last exercise like a clown because you burned all your refreshes early. The reason players like Famine can EoS so effortlessly is because they cannot feel fear. | |||||||||||||
92 | Don't Finish too Early During Eos you will often find there is a very small pool of people who can even give you a +0, especially once you go below 5/10 exercises remaining. If you move too early, you run the risk of not having anyone who can do this and thus being forced to eat -1s or worse, -2s. This can actually tank your score significantly, reducing a potential 2600 EoS finish to a 2589 finish. | |||||||||||||
93 | Don't Finish too Late Paradoxically enough, moving too late for EoS is also not necessarily a good decision. Firstly, the risk of overcapping while moving late is substantially higher because you may simply not have enough time to finish your EoS climb. Secondly, it is entirely possible someone else will have already finished with the exact same score as you and thus will be ranked higher than you due to finishing earlier despite it technically being a tie. This is a limitation of how the game works and there's nothing you can do about it. (Borgar Kun, one of the sheet editors, has got 11 #2 EoS tied finishes for this exact reason). Beyond that, there is also the unfortunate risk of being Yukana'd, a fate potentially worse than death. | |||||||||||||
94 | Accept the RNG Despite all your efforts, the EoS climb is still very much decided by RNG. Sometimes you will get an absolutely disgusting +6 total bonuses with no -1s. Other times you will go into EoS with all 5 refreshes but still be forced to eat a net -4 EoS climb. It's all random. PvP is indeed a "skill"-based gamemode KEKW. Sandbagging reduces the overall effect of RNG on your score but cannot overcome black swan events and acts of God. Sometimes luck is simply not on your side and the world may seem like it just doesn't want you to win. But that's okay. Azur Lane PvP is ultimately still just a game and as long as you have fun, that's what matters. | |||||||||||||
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97 | Sandbagging for AotN Rushers | |||||||||||||
98 | This is probably the section you were actually looking for, not the deranged madness that is EoS. It's intentionally placed this late into the sheet because a lot of factors and strategies described earlier still apply, though to a much much lesser degree. Pretty much all of the sandbagging tips and requirements are still important, but you don't have to be as strict. Say for example you already got 2 movers during Long Reset and you plan to sleep soon. Don't even bother sandbagging for a 3rd or 4th mover. Just finish your set and ignore PvP. Anyway you'll have more than enough points for AotN, assuming you don't overcap at any point in the season. Of particular importance for AotN rushers is that refreshes should be saved for the set you'd like to ignore/rush (using one of the Normal Sandbagging Methods shown below) as opposed to rerolling for a new list of movers. This is to keep your number of -1s as low as possible in order to more easily achieve AotN. But don't worry if you've overcapped or even lost a few battles, though. You do not have to achieve AotN during the 2200 reset. You can easily grab the rank more casually during the day afterward by rushing your set as soon as you have enough exercises, though this may be more difficult on competitive servers such as Avrora and Amagi because there are usually many other PvPers attempting to do the exact same thing. After achieving AotN, you could in theory just ignore the gamemode entirely and overcap the rest of the season. But if you want to maximise merit gains, just do your exercises. It doesn't really matter when or how, and it doesn't even matter if you eat too many -1s (or worse) because you've already achieved AotN for that season. Each exercise will give you 90-100 merit, which means you will gain over 3000 more merit by finishing a season after AotN Day than just ignoring exercises entirely. This is more merit than the AotN rank reward itself. The best part is you don't have to sandbag anymore to acquire this merit. You can just rush the set at any point to get your 5 exercises out of the way. TL;DR Do your exercises after AotN. It's an entire extra Purple Bulin or more per season for basically minimal effort. | |||||||||||||
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104 | Not all EN servers were created equal. Some servers are harder to get EoS on than others, often to a significant degree. This is not just due to the number of players that sandbag but also the number of difficult defense fleets you will encounter on the PvP ladder. Avrora, in particular, is rather infamous for its extremely difficult defense fleets in addition to its massive PvPer population. Thus, as of October 2023, the hardest PvP server is Avrora, with Amagi a fair way behind in 2nd place. The easiest server is Sandy, followed by Washington. Lexington is right in the middle of the 5 major EN servers. Lil' Enterprise remains a bizarre exception due to the high number of smurfs and extremely low PvPer population. Thus, it cannot be classified. | |||||||||||||
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106 | Refresh Management | |||||||||||||
107 | Despite the fact that you get 15 exercises, 5 per reset, you only get 5 refreshes once per day at the beginning of Long Reset. This makes refreshes an extremely valuable resource but their value steadily decreases over time. In Early Season they are worth as much as a bonus, as they allow you to reroll a dead list into up to 4 potential movers. In Midseason, refreshes are used both to Greed for extra bonuses and as a "Get out of jail" card to dodge -1s and -2s, with the important caveat being you will not always be able to dodge a minus with a refresh. Sometimes it will take two, and sometimes the game will simply refuse to cooperate and let you keep your bonuses. That is the nature of RNG. Because of the high randomness involved with refreshing, there isn't much general advice beyond use them less starting week 2. What that exactly constitutes is up to you to decide. Some players like to limit their refreshes to a maximum of 1-2 per set, simply accepting the -1 if it comes and they cannot refresh off of it immediately. Others will just use them up to keep their bonuses then pray to have a safe non-negative set 3 finish (as they will have already run out of refreshes for set 3). There is no right or wrong way to play and everyone's luck is different. The only thing you should really avoid is burning all 5 of your refreshes at the beginning of Long Reset like a total beth log bozo. | |||||||||||||
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109 | Rank versus Score | |||||||||||||
110 | It is important to remember that everything in Azur Lane PvP is still based on your absolute score (the number listed as Seasonal on the exercises screen). The only thing that truly matters is the difference in points between you and your opponent. Late in a season, this may manifest as you rolling a person with an extremely high rank (e.g. single digits) but not being able to get a bonus due to them not being 35 or more points above you. This is normal behaviour and is part of the game, especially on smaller servers where it's easier to get a high score early. On the flip side, everything being based on points also means that in the weird edge case where someone on your list is lower than you in rank but equal to you in score, attacking them will not net you a penalty. | |||||||||||||
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112 | Fleet Choice | |||||||||||||
113 | Contrary to popular belief, you don't actually have to use a Tier 0 fleet in order to sandbag and reach EoS. There have been countless examples of players running Tier 1 or lower PvP fleets and finishing Rank 1 EoS just due to knowing how to sandbag properly combined with a few strokes of luck. Having the top tier meta fleet certainly makes it much easier by reducing the randomness in fights and eliminating the chance of getting walled while PvPing, but it is absolutely not required to compete. | |||||||||||||
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115 | Collusion | |||||||||||||
116 | An extremely controversial strategy is Collusion, where you contact players on your current list in order to try to convince them to move. The reason for its controversy is rooted deep in early PvP history, where an infamous Avrora player named KENNY proceeded to DM nearly everyone they rolled to try to get them to move, much to the annoyance of the entire server and especially other PvPers who did not use Collusion. He even went so far as to abuse his moderator position on ALM (The most popular PvP Discord back then) to ban the majority of top players from Avrora for opposing him. Despite this, he still only made #4 EoS due to a difference in skill. Since then his name has become synonymous with the act of colluding in PvP even though he has long since quit Azur Lane. In general, messaging random people you don't know just to get them to move is viewed as extremely rude and disrespectful and is looked down upon by the greater PvP community. However, colluding amongst people you already know and are familiar with is viewed with less disdain and is even encouraged on some servers such as Lexington, though you will not find the same level of acceptance on other servers such as Avrora and Washington. Collusion is especially discouraged on Avrora (for some pretty obvious reasons). The debate around Collusion continues to this day, with many valid points on both sides. Thus it is best to ask the other top players of your server (such as on Discord) if they view Collusion in a positive light rather than initiate it on your own, as you may end up making some serious enemies otherwise. | |||||||||||||
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120 | The charts shown in the section below have the time where you are available to check PvP marked in yellow. It has unavailable times marked in grey. Availability does not mean actively checking and could be as little as checking once every 2-3 hours. How often you check your list for movers is entirely up to you and in general, checking more frequently is beneficial, to a point. With the exception of reset times, checking more frequently than once every 15 minutes is almost definitely a waste of time. | |||||||||||||
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123 | Normal Sandbagging Methods | |||||||||||||
124 | The methods shown in this section are generally very easy to adopt and many can even guarantee EoS if done well enough. | |||||||||||||
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126 | Method 1: Bag 2, Rush 1 | |||||||||||||
127 | Most EN players do not live in a convenient timezone that allows them to sleep through the long reset (12h). Because of this, they are best off using this sandbagging method. The basic idea is to sandbag normally through the 2 resets you are awake in and then just move early for the 3rd one, going to 5/10 several hours before it ends. This can very easily be adopted into an existing normal work/school schedule and has minimal impact on one's health. Of note, SEA timezone players with normal schedules should beware that they must get up just before Set 3 begins in order to finish their PvP attempts, which may be difficult for some. | |||||||||||||
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129 | Example Chart (Using NA East Timezone) | |||||||||||||
130 | Reset | Set 1 (Long Reset) | Set 2 | Set 3 | ||||||||||
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132 | Example Chart (Using EU West Timezone) | |||||||||||||
133 | Reset | Set 1 (Long Reset) | Set 2 | Set 3 | ||||||||||
134 | Check | |||||||||||||
135 | Example Chart (Using SEA Timezone) | |||||||||||||
136 | Reset | Set 1 (Long Reset) | Set 2 | Set 3 | ||||||||||
137 | Check | |||||||||||||
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139 | Method 2: Bag 2, Zero Out 1 | |||||||||||||
140 | This method works pretty much identically to the one above, but has much more leeway due to being 0/10 during one of the sets, which essentially allows you to "skip" a reset, per se. It is actually even more flexible and can be used in practically any timezone. However, by mid/late season you will start losing points due to encountering fewer opponents who can give you bonus points when rushing to 0/10. This method is generally the best if you just want to sandbag for some extra bonus points before rushing AotN (2200) and not go for EoS and/or just dislike the Bag 2, Rush 1 method. | |||||||||||||
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142 | Example Chart (Using NA East Timezone) | |||||||||||||
143 | Reset | Set 1 (Long Reset) | Set 2 | Set 3 | ||||||||||
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145 | Example Chart (Using EU West Timezone) | |||||||||||||
146 | Reset | Set 1 (Long Reset) | Set 2 | Set 3 | ||||||||||
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148 | Example Chart (Using SEA Timezone) | |||||||||||||
149 | Reset | Set 1 (Long Reset) | Set 2 | Set 3 | ||||||||||
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152 | Method 3: The Deathkt Strat | |||||||||||||
153 | The Deathkt strat is best used by young people with a fair amount of leisure time. The general rule is to follow one of the previous sandbagging methods until the last 3-4 days of the season. Then change to sandbagging every reset until the season ends, using the massive point gains from other players rushing AotN to get bonuses for EoS. While this method was popular before with many PvPers, it was named after Amagi player Deathkt because he actually achieved #1 EoS with it, starting the season with a sub-2575 pace and finishing 2597 #1 EoS. The main drawbacks of this strategy, other than the dangers to one's health, are that it relies heavily on RNG as opposed to building up a high score and finishing with modest gains and thus is not a consistent way of getting a high EoS score. | |||||||||||||
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156 | Sleep-Destroying Sandbagging Methods | |||||||||||||
157 | It was discovered pretty early on that manipulating one's sleep schedule could create even higher scores in PvP, often to unnatural levels. Methods shown in this section are not for the faint of heart and really don't give that much of a benefit compared to the previous methods (Often less than 3 extra points in EoS). But if you are truly intent on seizing #1 EoS, no matter what the cost, might as well go for it. :WarShrug: Disclaimer: We take no responsibility for any damages incurred while using these methods (including but not limited to physical, financial, psychological or legal damages). | |||||||||||||
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159 | Method 1: Waking Up in the Middle of the Night | |||||||||||||
160 | So, you've had a normal day bagging 2 resets. But you want those extra points from the third that you'd normally move early on. What do you do? Wake up in the middle of the night, of course! Most players that use this method just set a few extra alarms on their phone. And if you do too, congratulations! You are now an insomniac who wakes up just to play PvP. If your alarms don't work, use Veston's Piss Trick. Drink a huge glass of water before going to bed and you'll wake up just in time to do your Exercises (or overcap and soil your pants). | |||||||||||||
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162 | Example Chart (Using NA East Timezone) | |||||||||||||
163 | Reset | Set 1 (Long Reset) | Set 2 | Set 3 | ||||||||||
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165 | Example Chart (Using EU West Timezone) | |||||||||||||
166 | Reset | Set 1 (Long Reset) | Set 2 | Set 3 | ||||||||||
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168 | Example Chart (Using SEA Timezone) | |||||||||||||
169 | Reset | Set 1 (Long Reset) | Set 2 | Set 3 | ||||||||||
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172 | Method 2: Dymaxion Dynamo | |||||||||||||
173 | A method pioneered by infamous Sandy PvPer, 1tonight. This method is actually really simple. Develop a polyphasic sleep schedule by taking 4 equidistant naps throughout the day instead of sleeping a full night. You'll be awake for the beginning and end of all 3 resets in addition to having plenty of time to check for movers in between, though at a great cost to your health and sanity due to lack of REM sleep. Interestingly, this bizarre sleep schedule can be used in any major timezone. The biggest downside is you may actually die IRL. | |||||||||||||
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175 | Example Chart (Using NA East Timezone) | |||||||||||||
176 | Reset | Set 1 (Long Reset) | Set 2 | Set 3 | ||||||||||
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178 | Example Chart (Using EU West Timezone) | |||||||||||||
179 | Reset | Set 1 (Long Reset) | Set 2 | Set 3 | ||||||||||
180 | Check | |||||||||||||
181 | Example Chart (Using SEA Timezone) | |||||||||||||
182 | Reset | Set 1 (Long Reset) | Set 2 | Set 3 | ||||||||||
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185 | Method 3: Never Sleeping at All | |||||||||||||
186 | Okay, this one's just a meme (unless you're some kind of robot). But it's here to hammer home the point of how absurd the lengths some people will go just to minmax their scores in this gamemode. Seriously, don't be one of them. Take care of yourself, you only have one life to live. There are many better things to look forward to, such as Chicken Parmesan and making fun of people who tryhard to this degree on our Discord. :^) | |||||||||||||
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188 | Example Chart (Using NA East Timezone) | |||||||||||||
189 | Reset | Set 1 (Long Reset) | Set 2 | Set 3 | ||||||||||
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191 | Example Chart (Using EU West Timezone) | |||||||||||||
192 | Reset | Set 1 (Long Reset) | Set 2 | Set 3 | ||||||||||
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3 | Short Link for Sharing - https://cutt.ly/azur-lane-pvp-guide | |||||
4 | Azur Lane EN PvP Discord Server - https://discord.gg/HahgBcSdaE | |||||
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6 | Envy's EoS Score Tracker Sheets - https://cutt.ly/MutsukiCoin | |||||
7 | Fleetbuilder - https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/ | |||||
8 | AL EN Wiki - https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/ | |||||
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11 | Look ma, I'm famous! | |||||
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14 | NoobAsian | |||||
15 | SaltyArrow | |||||
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20 | Etherstar | |||||
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25 | Thanks to everyone who has provided fleet sample/testing videos. | |||||
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5 | HMS ANSON | ||||||||
6 | 2024 - 2024 | ||||||||
7 | Mocked and rejected by the community | ||||||||
8 | Hated by many but adored by few | ||||||||
9 | Misunderstood but longing for acceptance | ||||||||
10 | This is her final resting place | ||||||||
11 | May she rest in peace | ||||||||
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1 | FAQ (Deprecated) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
2 | This section is no longer being updated. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
3 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
4 | Q: | I heard that there are some special "hidden mechanics" in PVP? Such as the attacker fleet gets 20% more dmg boost, all ships have 2x more HP? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
5 | A: | Correct, there are hidden mechanics in PVP, however the 20% damage boost and 2x HP idea/rumor/mechanic is not correct. Datamined information indicates the following PVP mechanics below: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
6 | Health in PvP is multiplied by 0.9 + 0.012 * level --> level 100, 110, 120 are 2.1, 2.22, 2.34 respectively (has been confirmed with testing in EN) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
7 | Destroyers get 25% damage reduction and 5% evasion rate | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
8 | CL get 15% more damage and 20% damage reduction | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
9 | CA get 15% damage reduction | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
10 | All backline gets a 20% damage penalty, except CVL (they get 10%) and BBV/ARs (no penalty) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
11 | Skills stack, for the most part, ADDITIVELY with all of the above (e.g. Nagato buff will counteract the 20% damage penalty given to CVs) except few multiplicative cases like Jean Bart's first shot bonus | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
12 | Level advantage/disadvantage applies just like in PvE, as a final multiplier after everything above is accounted for | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
13 | If you're attacking, you take 0.8x damage AFTER ALL OF THE ABOVE plus skills etc. are applied | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
14 | Plane health is quadrupled, making them almost impossible to shoot down | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
15 | Fire and flood damage is completely unaffected by anything mentioned above or any other damage boost/reduction skills, unless explicitly mentioned in the description (Fire Extinguisher, Amagi's Efficacious Planning) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
16 | After both vanguards die, the remaining ships gain 300% + 300 Reload (essentially halving all airstrike/gun fire cooldowns) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
17 | Not so much hidden, but not explicitly explained, both sides have air parity. This affects ships whose skills refer to airspace control (e.g. Musashi). | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
18 | In conclusion, damage dealt is individually adjusted based on ship class. There is a global damage penalty for all backline ships, and even more damage PENALTY for the DEFENSE fleet in an exercise. These mechanics create nuances in theorycrafting that are discussed more in detail within #pvp | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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21 | Q: | Can I run a fleet without Anchorage? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
22 | A: | You can run a lot of fleets without Anchorage, but you'll be at a significant disadvantage as fleets with anchorage will be able to not only shield the preload damage but also during burst windows (depends on the torps equipped). | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
23 | With the requirement of Anchorage needing dev10 to be usable in PvP, and the prevalence of USS vanguard ships available to newer players, there's little reason not to invest in her early. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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25 | Q: | How are you supposed to choose which AA gun each ship should use? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
26 | A: | Without the PR STAAG AA gun, for a rule of thumb, half of your ships should run the Bofors gun, half should run the 113 gun, with 113 in a tied slot. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
27 | For some slight further optimization on the Anti-Air setup, run the 113 on higher AA ships and Bofors on lower AA ships. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
28 | With the PR STAAG AA gun, for a rule of thumb, all your main fleet should run STAAG if possible, then run as many 113 as you have STAAG, and fill rest with half/half 113/Bofors | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
29 | For some further optimization on the Anti-Air setup, run the 113 on the highest AA vanguards and replace the Bofors with STAAG on lower-AA vanguards | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
30 | (Following stuff may be better off summarized and moved elsewhere, with a link) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
31 | (Information on the usage of the STAAG is preliminary, further refinements may come) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
32 | The STAAG is nearly always run on the main fleet whenever possible since it gives +10 Hit stat, which is very important for the main fleet | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
33 | This is much less important for the vanguard, with the exception of CAs still getting a decent benefit | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
34 | Anti-Air is a team effort, with the ship-stat-modified reload and range on every AA gun mounted in your fleet averaged to produce a final value, and the ship-stat-modified damage summed | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
35 | The relevant formulae can be found from EN wiki https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Combat#Anti-Air_Guns and is consistent with CN and JP wikis. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
36 | In PvP, plane health is multiplied by 4; therefore, it is effectively impossible to prevent planes from dropping bombs/torpedos. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
37 | The best you can do then is to decrease aviation suicide damage by knocking off as much plane health as possible, since aviation suicide damage scales with remaining plane HP (lower cap 30%) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
38 | It turns out, since player plane speed is about 35 range per second (exact formula unknown), it's possible to get 2 AA shots off on some planes in a strike: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
39 | AA diameter is about 65, giving a 1.5 s window for AA shots, and AA reload is sub-1.5 s. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
40 | At the very least, AA coverage is increased (reduced no-AA gap, especially from AA-baiting) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
41 | Since plane waves are spread out, and there is a 0.3 s delay (exact time not confirmed) from when a plane first enters AA range and when AA guns fire, overall what initially occurs is: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
42 | (Visual: 1st planes enter, penetrate too far and leave after 1 hit. 2nd planes enter, and are hit twice. 3rd planes not entered yet, and are hit only once as they leave) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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44 | (Visual: 1st planes enter, hit once. 2nd planes enter, and leave before hit. 3rd planes not entered yet, and are hit once as they leave) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
45 | For very spread out plane waves, perhaps from two CVs stacking strikes, this pattern repeats itself | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
46 | You want to use gold AA guns for the extra AA stat boost, and it turns out that the recommended gold AA guns are mostly the best at shooting twice anyways. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
47 | There's a few purple guns that technically help with shooting twice, but have very low AA damage and don't help enough to justify running. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
48 | So, the overall idea is then to have a AA gun setup that is fast enough to catch as many of the planes in the AA circle when AA guns fire in a second round of AA fire. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
49 | Naively, the relevant value then is the ratio of AA gun range to AA gun actual reload (listed reload + 0.5 s). | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
50 | This ratio is best amongst gold AA guns for the STAAG, followed by 113, followed by 105, followed by the Bofors (rest aren't worth mentioning) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
51 | For an example ship with 188 reload, vs planes of 35 adjusted speed, | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
52 | Gun | STAAG | 113 | 105 | Bofors | 100 (PR) | Octuple | |||||||||||||||||||
53 | Range/Reload | 51.4 | 42.9 | 41.7 | 41.0 | 40.9 | 33.9 | |||||||||||||||||||
54 | Fraction of Range for 2 AA hits | 0.469 | 0.224 | 0.193 | 0.171 | 0.167 | 0 | (octuple gives negative measure - it has a AA coverage "gap"!) | ||||||||||||||||||
55 | Range Buffer for 2 AA hits | 14.08 | 7.85 | 6.16 | 4.78 | 5.35 | 0 | |||||||||||||||||||
56 | So, the Staag gives the best chance of hitting 2 AA shots. But, you lose out on a lot of damage - 96 base instead of 130 base of the highest-damage 113. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
57 | The highest damage 113 is also the next best gun for hitting twice. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
58 | As you shoot AA, your vanguard will move, which can either increase (move same direction as incoming planes) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
59 | or decrease (move against incoming planes) the size of the spot that allows 2 AA shots. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
60 | This means these above values are closely related to the chance of hitting AA twice | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
61 | With the relative size of the trade-offs, it is still best to run the 113 on all but the lowest-AA-damage vanguard ships. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
62 | The extra damage more than makes up for the lower chance to hit 2 AA shots | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
63 | The averaged % increase of AA-hit-number for a staag vs a 113 in a setup is about 1/2 to 2/3 of the increase in AA damage. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
64 | AA damage for a ship is of course relative to the other members of the fleet | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
65 | However, if your range is too long, at some spots, your vanguard AA range extends behind the plane suicide boundary, and so is wasted. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
66 | The longest-range 113 suffers from this somewhat, so you don't want to run too many of it - about 1 for each staag at most | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
67 | More and the extra penalty to 2-hit chance from excess range means running the staag instead on a lower-AA vanguard is better | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
68 | But, considering the staag has lower relative AA damage, if your vanguard ships all have equally high AA-damage and your main fleet AA-damage is low, | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
69 | there's another subsitution you can make - the Bofors | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
70 | The Bofors is the best range-for-reload substitution for the 113 amongst the high-AA-damage guns: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
71 | It gives the lowest reload for any desired range trade-off, a bit better than the 105 or 100 and a lot better than the Octuple. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
72 | Mixing in Bofors on weaker AA ships also gives better damage than the 105, though slightly worse than the Octuple; about the same as the 100 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
73 | Despite lower damage than the 113, the Bofors is still worth running over the staag if it would be placed on a decently-high AA ship | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
74 | This is the scenario outlined above: your vanguard ships all have equally high AA-damage and your main fleet AA-damage is low | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
75 | The hard analysis for how much range is worth trading away is very difficult to do, fleet-dependent, and enemy-plane-loadout-dependent. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
76 | No such analysis, to the authours' knowledge, has been done satisfactorily by anyone | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
77 | Subjectively, a fleet averaged range of somewhere around 32 should be optimal. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
78 | Below only valid for not running STAAG, and instead using 113/Bofors mix | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
79 | Now that an AA gun mix has been decided on, next is to decide on how to distribute them amongst your ships. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
80 | There are 3 main considerations: placing for best fleet damage, placing for best fleet AA reload, placing considering which ships die first. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
81 | Let us take two ships to be characteristic of high/low AA ships, of 5:2 AA damage ratio. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
82 | This results in a difference of 3.5% AA damage | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
83 | Let us take two ships to be characteristic of high/low reload ships, of 160 vs 220 reload stat | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
84 | This results in a difference of 0.9% reload time | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
85 | Overall, the first difference here is more significant, and in general optimizing for AA damage will have greater impact than optimizing for AA reload. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
86 | Another point of consideration is that ships who sink stop contributing to AA; | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
87 | therefore, it might also be worth trying to optimize AA for what team would look like part-way into a match. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
88 | Once vanguard is dead, AA circle moves to main fleet. Here, getting off 2 AA shots is impossible. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
89 | The 113 here offers a wider interception area, but the Bofors faster recovery to next shot. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
90 | Unless a constant stream of planes comes in, 113 is better in this situation. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
91 | (Link to a AA calculator) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
92 | (perhaps some example calcs for teams?) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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94 | Q: | I heard something about "baiting AA" with planes? How does that work, and how do I do it? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
95 | A: | The idea behind "baiting AA" is to use the faster-flying fighter (such as Sea Hornet or Reppu) to fly ahead of the rest of the strike wave of planes. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
96 | This triggers the first shot of the opposing team's AA guns by itself, protecting the rest of your planes. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
97 | This often moves many of your planes outside of the "sweet spot" where they get hit twice by AA, | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
98 | or allow some planes to completely slip past AA without getting hit. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
99 | This allows your planes to reach the end of screen with more remaining HP, and therefore do more suicide damage. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
100 | (Show calcs on this) (all below is incomplete) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
101 | Distance from CV launching a strike to AA range of opposing vanguard is somewhere around 65 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
102 | Let's assume a plane speed spread of 32-42, sample points at 42(est. Reppu), 36(est. TB, other fighters, other DBS), 32(SB2C): flight times to AA is about: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
103 | 1.547619048 | 1.805555556 | 2.03125 | |||||||||||||||||||||||
104 | AA gun firing delay from when planes enter is about 0.3 s (unconfirmed, please test!) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
105 | Also consider vanguard moves, so there is some variation on plane arrival times relative to vanguard postion | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
106 | Oveall, using Reppu often saves SB2C and sometimes TBs, all from the same wave, relative to other fighters, from the inital AA shot | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
107 | This for sure saves them from being hit twice by AA, and possibly from being hit altogether | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
108 | Also benefits other CV strikes that are launched at same time |
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3 | In this section, we will make an in-depth anaylsis of each of the fleets listed in The Tierlist tab. This will go more into the specific roles of each individual ships and elaborate more on the variations available. | ||||||||||
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7 | "Akaga" - Akagi and Kaga core | ||||||||||
8 | Akagi & Kaga | ||||||||||
9 | The bread and butter of this fleet. You must use both sisters simultaneously, otherwise they will underperform if used solo. This duo's gimmick is a fast airstrike to wipe out the opponent before they have a chance to strike back. Of course this is mostly effective against fleets that lack a preloader, such as the Weeb and Triple BB fleets. | ||||||||||
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12 | Equipment-wise this fleet is a fairly expensive investment, as with all carrier based fleets. At least two wyverns is a must to make this fleet work, and additional tenrais will improve the damage output significantly. | ||||||||||
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15 | Vanguard-wise this fleet opts for a more offensive torpedo squad to put on additional early game pressure against the opposing vanguard. Shimakaze's torpedoes alone already pack a heavy punch, but with the assistance of Noshiro she becomes a monster. Any ships unlucky enough to receive a blow from one of their torpedoes will have a big chunk of their HP taken out. | ||||||||||
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22 | "America" - Full USS Fleet | ||||||||||
23 | New Jersey & Independence (Retrofit) | ||||||||||
24 | While USS fleets were quite usable following the introduction of the stealth mechanic, the addition of New Jersey and Independence's retrofit allows this fleet to flourish into a very decent fleet that can compete with the best meta teams in the game (Mafia, weeb and zoomer). While New Jersey boasts considerable firepower and a unique armour break that affects any ship types, making her a must pick for any team, her third skill offers further utility to other USS ships in the form of additional AA and damage reduction. This can assist your vanguard's survivability, particularly from airstrikes and keeping their vanguard from reaching your backline. | ||||||||||
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29 | Independence functions as a CV/L buffer thanks to her retrofit skill which increases their (as well as her own) AVI and RLD stats. She also has a 25% shorter cooldown to her first airstrike, which if timed right, can allow New Jersey to fire at any previously hidden carriers. Enterprise is usually the 3rd ship in the backline and appreciates the boosts provided by both New Jersey and Independence, further improving her Lucky E damage. | ||||||||||
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33 | Due to your backline being carrier focused, there's very little coverage should your vanguard fall before theirs, it is therefore imperative that you have a vanguard that is capable of staying around and allowing your carriers to dish out damage with impunity. Birmingham is a solid choice for this due to her blue skill which can increase her evasion temporarily (note: it does have a cooldown period so it's not possible for it to be permanently active) as well as immunity for 5 seconds when her health drops below 30%. Since Birmingham is also a Cleveland class cruiser, she does enhance Independence's AVI and airstrike barrage pattern. Having Juneau in your rear guard gives her the chance to not die instantly from preload torpedoes, giving more value to her Martyr skill when she dies (i.e. she doesn't overheal). How you gear Juneau will determine the likely time she will die and this is important to note as you do not want her dying too early or too late and not providing the full benefit of her 25% HP heal. Your final ship should assist in your vanguard's fleet survivability, Anchorage is the usual go-to for this position. | ||||||||||
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35 | This fleet does require a moderate amount of investment due to running carriers, Wyverns are required for both carriers and a tenrai for your carrier. New Jersey will want the twin 457 so that she can deal significant damage to your opponent's backline. | ||||||||||
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37 | The success of this fleet in the current meta is due to the synergy that each ship offers and compliments each other's strength. New Jersey provides a defensive buff as well as a unique armour break to increase her teammates' damage. Independence provides a buff to CVs and is further boosted herself by the presence of a Cleveland class cruiser. The vanguard offer sufficient survivability allowing your backline to deal damage to your opponent without having to worry about their vanguard reaching your backline. | ||||||||||
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42 | "Mafia" - Combination of RN and USS Ships | ||||||||||
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44 | Prior to the introduction of the event Daedalian Hymn, the face of PvP was an IJN fleet consisting of Nagato, Shinano and Hiryuu, now the Mafia fleet has taken the throne and is the current face of PvP meta. Aquila was the second preload carrier to be introduced into the game and unlike Perseus, does not possess any drawbacks, this allows her to act as more than just a spotter for your BB/Cs and provide additional damage to your opponent. While her efficiencies aren't extraordinary, she does have 4 torpedo bombers in her 3rd slot which allows her to make good use of Wyverns. Vittorio Veneto (VV) functions quite similar to Nagato in the IJN fleet, by buffing Aquila's damage and accuracy and Duca's Torpedoes and evasion. However, VV has a more reliable barrage and if it fails, a random enemy will receive increased damage for 8 seconds as well as the potential to have a 95% reduced cooldown on her first salvo (40% per Italian ship + 15% from HPFCR). Additionally VV also provides a fleet wide 20% torp damage reduction, this provides some protection against an enemy's opening torpedo wave (especially for the attacking fleet). The final ship for the backline is New Jersey (NJ) who provides extraordinary firepower that can wipe out a tanky BB in 1 salvo. She also provides some additional survivability to any USS ships you use in the vanguard (namely Anchorage). There are two different directions you can go with the vanguard for this fleet. You can take the tank route or the torpedo meme route. Both vanguards will use Anchorage to provide protection from preload carriers as well as the opening torpedo wave as well as Duca to provide the 40% reduced cooldown for VV's first salvo. Duca has a small zombie skill and slowed torps which keeps on the field for longer and more chance that the enemy vanguard may run over them. Typically, Shimakaze is used as the third ship in this vanguard due to constant damage she can deal while she's alive. Noshiro can provide some utility for Duca in the form of higher torp damage and a torp damage reduction for the vanguard. Alternatively, you may use Juneau for her heal on death or Yukikaze for her defensive utility for the backline as well as a tanky DD. | ||||||||||
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59 | The backline gear is the same regardless of your vanguard setup. Aquila will want both the tenrai and wyvern as well as a good fighter (Sea hornet, tigercat or the German Rocket Fighter (from PR4 research)). Since VV will most likely be firing before the backline is revealed, she will need a HE gun or she will be firing AP shells into the vanguard, which are generally light armoured so will receive reduced damage. NJ however will want an AP gun as her role is to decimate the backline. Anchorage's setup is similar for both vanguard setups with the aim to be as tanky as possible. Duca can be geared to be tanky as well or you can gear her to bolster her damage through her torpedoes, it should be noted that she's not a great pearl candidate if you've built her to be tanky. Shimakaze or Noshiro should be geared offensively, while using Juneau however will need to be geared such that she is not likely to die too early or too late. Since its introduction to its current iteration, the Mafia fleet has been the most popular fleet in the AL PvP meta. It is able to deal high amounts of damage early on and apply momentum from the start leading to faster games. Aquila enables your BBs to fire at your backline while your vanguard can either assist in giving you the early momentum in the form of damaging or torpedoes or weathering your opponent's damage and providing utility to your backline allowing them to cripple and destroy your opponent's fleet. | ||||||||||
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75 | This name is not given to one specific fleet setup, but rather as an umbrella term to describe any fleet that uses a three battleship backline. Three battleship fleets excel at dishing out huge damage on the enemy backline with their high firepower main gun shelling and barrages. However with the addition of the carrier stealth mechanic, they have lost much of their power since battleships cannot target hidden carriers. But they are still able to reveal them using burns caused by barrages as well as winning the vanguard duel. This is why this fleet opts to use BBs such as Richelieu and FDG, since their barrages are able to set fire to backliners. Because of how pvp mechanics work, the enemy vanguard is positioned closer to your backline, therefore giving the opportunity for your backline to melt them with their secondary guns. This helps your vanguard win the duel against theirs and proceed to reveal their backline. On the other hand, it might not be a bad thing that battleships cannot shoot at hidden carriers. Because they are unable to target carriers, they focus all of their shelling on the opposing battleships and are able to take them out quickly. This is great for taking out high value backliners such as NJ. | ||||||||||
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88 | Both Richelieu and FDG have fixed barrage positions that can also inflict burn, which is crucial for revealing enemy carriers. Richy has the additional bonus of having a preload salvo ready so she is able to fire a round and barrage immediately, and FDG has her proximity barrage that assists in burning and damaging the enemy vanguard. Warspite has her backline sniping ability which also places a target on the enemy that gives other HMS BBS an increased chance of targeting the ship. This pairs up well with Vanguard to focus down one backliner. New Jersey is New Jersey. | ||||||||||
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99 | Ulrich has the ability to spam out barrages at a rapid rate and has a proximity barrage that can deal big damage to the enemy vanguard. Her biggest drawback is how damage modifiers stack up against her. With her 45% decrease in main gun damage along with the BB hidden modifiers, her main gun barely does any damage. She's a fine pick if any of the other options are not available. | ||||||||||
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3 | How To Compete for Top Exercise Ranks (Deprecated) | |||||||
4 | WIP HOOLOO's TERRITORY KEEP OUT~ | |||||||
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7 | 1. Must have a fleet that can beat any opponent in reasonable number of fight resets | |||||||
8 | 2. Requires multiple log-ins between exercise resets so timezone/sleep schedule is important for the very top scores | |||||||
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22 | 1. Always attack the leftmost opponent in your list | |||||||
23 | You want to attack the highest rank since bonus points are awarded depending on seasonal score difference between you and your opponent while attacking lower ranked players gives score penalties | |||||||
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26 | Its important to abuse this trick as you want higher score difference for more bonus points. Attack timing can vary a lot as some people moves 15 mins after a reset while others will do so 15 mins before the next reset. Rinse and repeat for the entire season. Frequent checking of your list is advised to see if someone is ready to be attacked and then get a new list as soon as possible. Now, this is where the "luck" part of sandbagging comes in since you have no control over which people will do their charges and which ones will just completely ignore them. Also, there is a score difference threshold that you have to meet in order to get any bonus point. This threshold varies every rank and is still being tested but a 35-pt difference is confirmed to give you one bonus point at rear admiral lower rank and above. | |||||||
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34 | Getting bonus points is good and all but you should never let any of your charges go unused just because you want to wait for someone to move in your list. In a sense, one attack is worth at least 10 bonus points. You can't do anything about a dead list so just accept it and move on. | |||||||
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38 | You should only be going from 10/10 to 5/10 attack charges every reset. This artificially lowers your score and keeps you away from getting to top ranks for as long as possible. You want to avoid getting penalties from fighting lower ranked opponents. First reset of the season is an exception as you start with 5/10 charges only. In this case, you can just spread those 5 charges over the first two resets of the season. Alternatively, you can keep the first 5 charges of the season and not attack anyone until after the second reset. | |||||||
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43 | 5. Prepare for a good Gensui rush and you should get Admiral of the Navy rank even with a few missed attacks | |||||||
44 | Gensui rush refers to using all your attacks before a reset, including the 5 charges that you should be holding all season long and then immediately doing another 5 charges after a reset in hopes of getting into top 10, even for an instant, which is needed for AotN (also needs atleast 2200 seasonal score to unlock). With enough sandbagging, you can skip this part as you would reach top 10 naturally. | |||||||
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50 | Phase 1: Start of Season (day 1 to day 3) | |||||||
51 | Before the start of a new season, you want to be logged out of your account and then log-in after 1-2 mins into the season. In case you are logged in when the new season started, you can also just use the *refresh button* 1-2 mins after season start to update your opponent list. By doing this, you get four guaranteed "rushers" (people who use their attacks early) and snag a quick win; usually they are ready to be attacked after around 5 mins. Timing is crucial as there's considerably less rushers after an hour or so. You should get a second rusher right after the first but third, fourth and fifth bonuses can be hard to get and if noone is moving, you should consider waiting until after second reset before attacking anyone to get higher bonus points. Barring any cursed rng, a decent run should get you at least 140 pts for the first 5 charges. With that said, there's plenty of time to catch up if you're a bit behind. Using "refresh" to find opponents with high HQ level is also a good idea as they are relatively more active. The first 2-3 days of the season gives the highest bonus points so you want to be as active as you can. | |||||||
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61 | Most important thing for this phase is consistency. The people with high scores, either by being lucky on the first few days of the season or simply by being a rusher, will eventually get to a point where the system will force them down due to not meeting the score difference threshold for bonus points or just straight up matching them with lower ranked players that gets them score penalties. Your goal here should be keeping your score within striking distance from other top sandbaggers (around 5 points) until gensui rush starts. It should be mentioned that losing even a single attack charge makes it almost impossible for you to get end of season rank 1. | |||||||
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