Spirit Bomb Notes from ManofSteelII

Turtleon's Full Frame Data Sheet:

Assist Frame Data:

XL : Cell, 16, Broly, jiren(between XL and L)

L : 21, Piccolo, Nappa, Beerus, Freeza, Tien, Majin Buu, Hit, Vegito, Zamasu, Janemba

M : All Goku, Adult Gohan, Yamcha, Ginyu, Trunks, 18,videl(think)

S : All Vegeta, Bardock

XS : Kid Buu, Teen Gohan, Gotenks, Krillin, GT Goku

214S(x) = Spirit Bomb charge of that level

SSB = Super Spirit Bomb

Kaio Ken Stuff:

Kaio Ken Routes Doc:

1.16/1.17 Stealth Changes:

Kaio Ken Super Flash Startup nerfed by a few frames

Kaio Ken Routes and Data(other doc):

1.18 Stealth Changes:

214L Startup is 20f. Used to be 22f

M/H elbows (236M/H) Invuln frames are 4-11.

214M/H tartup is 24f. Used to be 25f

Update main routes for 1.21 and beyond

5LLL last hit startup is 15f. Used to be 20f

Kaio Ken superflash DID NOT get frame 1 invuln. That was a mistake during my tests

Change layout and sort out main page once it's filled out

Kaio Ken superflash DID get frame 5 invuln however this doesnt affect it's used as a reversal

1.19 Stealth Changes

Assist startup is 1f slower? 29f now. Possibly was always like this and was a charting error.

~~236M startup is 1f slower? j236M unchanged. Both should be 26f.~~

In patch 1.21 you can now do beam enders after the dive of L+M instead of just after the kick

This however results in less damage than the former for a scaled combo ender. It IS more damage off a raw kaio ken hit though.

M elbow is better as an assist combo extender and H elbow hits slightly easier midscreen for solo ex routes.

All throws are easier to convert now to some degree because of proper tracking/usability windows

A assist now wallbounces like gogeta A assist.

B assist charges SB for 3/4 bar. After 3rd charge or getting to tier 3 assist will build 1 bar

C assist is general C assist properties. Ours is Beam + divekick

This page is to organize and note the more important combo's/extensions to learn

Notable changes from 1.14 include no j236L or 5LLL loops. Sliding KD off 2SSS + free genki charge. 214L Wallbounce

Notable changes from 1.28 new j2M enableing SKD anywhere 236[8]S has SD followup, more hitstun on 2SS and 2SSS damage.

22S new move only charges SB 214S can will throw if stocked

Base Goku this patch is kinda hard to pin down his optimal go to bnb's since a lot of his most rewarding combos require some finicky delays and situational awareness

He does however have a good decent set of combo pieces, however these dont chain well into each other outside the delay loop extensions.

Because of this Base Goku is very much a freestyle kind of character if you want to properly use his tools and recources but dont want to stick to high execution for higher damage.

Many combos that are mentioned in this page of the doc are intended to be shown as vital combo structure parts that should all be considered when trying to extend a hit.

Needs Updating with all new 1.28 extensions, can remove old/obsolete routes

If done as with jMLS the j236H can wiff if you arent point blank or have dash momentum during the starter

Only timing required is link from jS to jLL

extended version of the normal 5(L)LL route for extra damage if you are still midscreen

Sliding KD + Genki Charge. Genki can be replaced with 236L into KK for a super ender.

builds about 1.25 bars just with a raw 214S can be extending off a 5lll anywhere on screen and a smash 5H. Is better than doing 214S SD into air bnb.

Safejump ender when you reach corner with falling jL. DOES NOT catch up tech

Falling jL will catch people after tech in corner. DOES NOT catch up tech.

requires a delay on jS to link 5M

requires bigger delays to link onto 5M

super route can start with 5S 5H from this

66 puts you into the corner and 1SSS is written to match. Special at the end of the combo wont work at higher HSD

can be done as iad jLS instead of jMS to fit an extra loop in certain combos

can do 1 rep and then do 5LLL corner loop if you reach