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2020-12-16 14:00:18.9 PST
Ernest PrabhakarHello, David.
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2020-12-16 14:00:22.5 PST
Ernest PrabhakarTesting, 123, testing, 123, hello.
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2020-12-16 14:00:24.9 PST
David JohnsonHello.
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2020-12-16 14:00:29.7 PST
Ernest PrabhakarWe had a little new into a buddy word warned us that this call may be recorded or transfer.
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2020-12-16 14:00:30.3 PST
David JohnsonHow are you?
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2020-12-16 14:00:39.3 PST
Ernest PrabhakarWas exciting?
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2020-12-16 14:00:39.3 PST
David JohnsonI didn't notice actually.
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2020-12-16 14:00:44.7 PST
Ernest PrabhakarHi, how are you doing?
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2020-12-16 14:00:49.5 PST
David JohnsonI'm doing okay, how are you?
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2020-12-16 14:00:54.3 PST
Ernest PrabhakarI was pleasantly surprised by yesterday's great reset.
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2020-12-16 14:01:07.5 PST
Ernest PrabhakarHow did you feel about it? Oh.
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2020-12-16 14:01:09.3 PST
David JohnsonMy conversations with Jen, right?
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2020-12-16 14:01:14.1 PST
Ernest PrabhakarYes. I've had several conversations with tenants and several conversations with Amelia on a.
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2020-12-16 14:01:15.3 PST
David JohnsonHey.
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2020-12-16 14:01:20.1 PST
David JohnsonReference that and I'm not sure what you meant by butter and I.
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2020-12-16 14:01:24.3 PST
Ernest PrabhakarSorry.
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2020-12-16 14:01:27.2 PST
David JohnsonMentioned that and I'm not sure what you want to share. I would like to know if not that's okay.
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2020-12-16 14:01:32.7 PST
Ernest PrabhakarOh, hey it was a different relationship issue that she had been dealing with and so a similar to my conversations with Janet, I was trying to understand when she was going through and encourage her to better prepare her to have those conversations from a place of security rather than need.
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2020-12-16 14:02:02.1 PST
David JohnsonOkay. I just wanted to confirm though my, my is this off to you and you were okay with her having this conversation.
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2020-12-16 14:02:12.9 PST
Ernest PrabhakarSorry, talk with me.
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2020-12-16 14:02:17.1 PST
David JohnsonYou just gave me is you have other station with chatted about this issue and you didn't have a problem with our bringing it up during the week.
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2020-12-16 14:02:26.1 PST
Ernest PrabhakarI don't know with her. I may have given her that impression.
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2020-12-16 14:02:33.3 PST
Ernest PrabhakarThe last I talked to Dan and I remember her saying that she thought she was in a good place with other people and that she didn't feel the need to bring it up at least that was the impression I had. So I was surprised likely when Jenny brought it up and expressed her concerned about. No, so strongly since my perhaps wishful thinking impression was that she was fully process and good to go possible. I misunderstood possible that she thought you had processed it then when $1. million was there realized that actually this is something you wanted to to bring up. So.
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2020-12-16 14:03:17.7 PST
Ernest PrabhakarThat's my understanding as far as that goes.
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2020-12-16 14:03:26.7 PST
David JohnsonWhat about the original conversation, she talked to you about it before? She had brought it up to the group, right?
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2020-12-16 14:03:36.3 PST
Ernest PrabhakarShe mentioned the issue before. Yes, again, I was not expecting her to bring it up during the call. I was not upset that she did. I just wasn't expecting it.
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2020-12-16 14:03:44.1 PST
David JohnsonReally. Okay, uh-huh all. Alright, so you're okay with it but it wasn't, you weren't expecting. Alright, thank you. Good to know.
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2020-12-16 14:03:54.3 PST
Ernest PrabhakarClear, my preference is always to you know, resolve things as quietly and peacefully with a few people involved as possible. But it's, but I'd rather get things in the grass. I think there's one thing because been telling me teaching me through this process is that don't let the perfect have the good and those are my ideal for how things should be done. Make me blind how things are actually getting done. So I am increasingly learning how to roll with it.
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2020-12-16 14:04:29.1 PST
David JohnsonOkay. I think that's interesting.
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2020-12-16 14:04:36.3 PST
David JohnsonI should have the opposite opinion on the fact that, I think it's better that it happened in the group then, then individually.
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2020-12-16 14:04:52.5 PST
David JohnsonBut the assumption that there's, there's a group of followers of Christ that want the best for both of them.
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2020-12-16 14:04:53.1 PST
Ernest PrabhakarCool.
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2020-12-16 14:05:01.5 PST
David JohnsonIf that assumption is not meant and then I would agree with the sort of like you don't want to, you want a few people involved as possible. But that's fine. That's just of my take.
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2020-12-16 14:05:14.1 PST
Ernest PrabhakarYeah, I know the reason and they given to probably need to discuss some point is that the risk of someone hearing something out of contacts or taking it and unfortunately magnified the more people are involved and so that's why I always prefer to have well bandwidth problem from a professional point of view on the way that all this happened on camera and everyone was comfortable having it on screen because it's a fantastic learning opportunity and I thought they both, it could have been solved remarkably well under very difficult circumstances. So I was very pleased by that and I'm certainly glad we're able to help.
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2020-12-16 14:05:57.9 PST
David JohnsonOkay. Yeah, and I guess my attitude is that I trust the group to handle things better than I do the individual.
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2020-12-16 14:06:07.5 PST
Ernest PrabhakarOh, yes, I see your point.
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2020-12-16 14:06:11.7 PST
Ernest PrabhakarTotally better having a time to let them have individuals not handle it. I mean, the peak both to an expert job of handling things without anything involved and that's fantastic. That's not always allowable option. What I think we'll get it but yeah, I agree that it was good for the body of Christ things together and all of that.
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2020-12-16 14:06:11.7 PST
David JohnsonBut anyway, that's.
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2020-12-16 14:06:26.7 PST
David JohnsonOkay.
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2020-12-16 14:06:35.7 PST
David JohnsonAlright, thank you. I guess I kinda wanna continue.
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2020-12-16 14:06:40.3 PST
David JohnsonOh, yeah, so I guess I would say, yeah, I'm surprised and how well it went and the only thing I'm sort of little concerned about is I think from the way Janet presented it, I just that I don't have to like hide things anymore. We talked about it a little bit more openly, but my understanding from how Jenna presented things was that the film that was on the windshield was cleaned up and it looked like it wasn't that big of a deal. They just sort of like wipe it off but then like million made a comment that there was still damage.
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2020-12-16 14:07:30.3 PST
David JohnsonAnd yesterday or I think she's sort of alluded to that. It wasn't very clear and so that's the only sort of a hang up. I, I'm concerned about or you know, something that maybe like, there is still a potential issue other than that I was it all looks very, very good.
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2020-12-16 14:07:45.3 PST
Ernest PrabhakarYeah.
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2020-12-16 14:07:50.1 PST
Ernest PrabhakarYeah, I think there are a few questions of fast and the few questions of emotion that are lingering, but I think there was, you know, a lot of generosity on both sides and a number of clarifications. And I was, once again, I should not be surprised by this. But I still am just how often the most impactful things we here or the thing that the other person doesn't recall or even intended to say. And so it's.
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2020-12-16 14:08:24.3 PST
Ernest PrabhakarIs maybe hopefully encouraging me to be a little more humble and my own memories of things as well. Gratitude for transcripts, I suppose.
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2020-12-16 14:08:33.9 PST
David JohnsonI am, I am loving the I'm having a record so I don't have to bother to remember things. It's very convenient encouraging my laziness.
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2020-12-16 14:08:45.9 PST
Ernest PrabhakarAnd they go with gratitude for transcripts, unless you come up with a better titles.
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2020-12-16 14:08:50.1 PST
David JohnsonI do wish that the YouTube stuff. I had a, an automatic transcription. So, I can search for the timestamp. It's like.
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2020-12-16 14:09:00.9 PST
Ernest PrabhakarSo, yeah, I think if you have a paid to say there was no with a pin to McCalla his. There's some option. I should probably what type of child can, can see or maybe that'll happen more in January when the new apps come out and I think that, that'd be more functions for those things. I don't think there was any decent free service that was automatic that I could be wrong.
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2020-12-16 14:09:29.7 PST
David JohnsonYeah. Well, it's the one thing I wish we had otherwise. Yeah, very nice. All right, do you have anything else to add?
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2020-12-16 14:09:38.7 PST
Ernest PrabhakarOh, not about last about yesterday. No.
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2020-12-16 14:09:42.3 PST
David JohnsonOkay. So, I want us to continue our conversation about like, what you're seeing for the group or what you're seeing, like we're gonna be doing in the group and why you're optimistic about it and I'm hoping you can help me understand like, what we're doing.
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2020-12-16 14:10:00.9 PST
Ernest PrabhakarWell, I already is that, well there's two levels the one level, hi, I'm more optimistic even though I have less idea what's actually happening cause like yesterday was amazing not at all. What I planned are expected to happen to the extent that we create a space to made it possible for it to happen. I am grateful for that but I am hesitant to suggest I know exactly what it was we did and can be producing people matter but whatever the data point we'd have was quite encouraging that whatever we're being.
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2020-12-16 14:10:00.9 PST
David JohnsonUnless there's something else you would rather talk about.
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2020-12-16 14:10:37.7 PST
Ernest PrabhakarProduced some positive results of the client I've been hoping for so that was good.
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2020-12-16 14:10:44.7 PST
Ernest PrabhakarOn a different level and I get out of this is useful either I've been thinking more about the, you know, the more or less arbitrary seven season with the jubilee week and I've been toying with the idea of as our finale for week fifty doing something like a conference where we invite a bunch of people. And we create a set of experiences that demonstrate some of the things that we've learned and get more people to experience them. And that would create a.
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2020-12-16 14:11:26.1 PST
Ernest PrabhakarContext for just submitting or whatever we have managed to develop over. The course. Have a great reset and that would be the end of the recent portion and the beginning of whatever it is best. So, that's hey, idea and that's probably about as much as I have at this point.
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2020-12-16 14:11:57.3 PST
Ernest PrabhakarCertain, gratitude. A long-term possible vision.
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2020-12-16 14:11:57.3 PST
David JohnsonOkay.
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2020-12-16 14:12:02.7 PST
David JohnsonOkay, but before you were talking about working with Ted.
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2020-12-16 14:12:12.3 PST
Ernest PrabhakarYeah, and I so yeah, so I still would like to do that but no my truck with the predictive what's going to happen on a Tuesday has been fairly for and therefore it's not something I'm investing a lot of emotional energy and trying to make sure that it happens.
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2020-12-16 14:12:12.3 PST
David JohnsonAnd having some.
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2020-12-16 14:12:38.1 PST
David JohnsonOkay.
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2020-12-16 14:12:40.5 PST
Ernest PrabhakarLike for example, I would be perfectly happy to say, you know, our default plan is to try and get through a DBF on Romans 828 and you know, if it happens, that's awesome and it's something else, keep interrupting it, that's fine too and I am at the place of as long as we're all moving forward on our relational issues then I consider that sufficient progress to keep me going and just trusting that will all sort of makes sense at some point.
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2020-12-16 14:13:22.5 PST
David JohnsonMm-hmm.
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2020-12-16 14:13:25.5 PST
David JohnsonGood morning. Yeah, I guess I don't, I'm not happy with this.
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2020-12-16 14:13:32.1 PST
Ernest PrabhakarWell, let's talk about your feelings. Where are you happy?
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2020-12-16 14:13:34.5 PST
David JohnsonI, why I'm saying I don't think it makes a lot of sense and.
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2020-12-16 14:13:44.7 PST
David JohnsonYeah, I don't know. Alright. So.
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2020-12-16 14:13:45.3 PST
Ernest PrabhakarWhy is it important to things makes sense?
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2020-12-16 14:13:53.1 PST
David JohnsonWell, I'm not going to engage in something that doesn't make sense to me.
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2020-12-16 14:14:01.5 PST
David JohnsonSo if it doesn't make sense and you know I, I'm not sure why I'm here.
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2020-12-16 14:14:09.9 PST
Ernest PrabhakarIs making sense the same as having face?
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2020-12-16 14:14:10.5 PST
David JohnsonAnd.
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2020-12-16 14:14:17.7 PST
David JohnsonSo, the having faith in god is one thing, having faith in this group as a different. Then I, like I said, I've always been clear I've never felt called to be here.
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2020-12-16 14:14:39.3 PST
Ernest PrabhakarOkay.
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2020-12-16 14:14:43.5 PST
David JohnsonLike once again I view this sort of like a, like entertainment. I'm like, I'm watching the TV program and it's like, well as long as it's entertaining, you know, I can keep watching them but when it's not being entertaining I, I'm not gonna keep, I'm not gonna continue.
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2020-12-16 14:15:03.9 PST
Ernest PrabhakarWell, so far has been entertaining.
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2020-12-16 14:15:14.7 PST
David JohnsonIt's sorted out entertaining. I would actually, I'm sort of worried that it's actually turned destructive.
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2020-12-16 14:15:22.5 PST
Ernest PrabhakarInteresting. Okay, you felt like last Tuesday was destructive.
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2020-12-16 14:15:28.5 PST
David JohnsonYes, I would say that every week has been disruptive for, for, I don't know of a couple of months and it, it's probably not for the reasons that you're thinking.
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2020-12-16 14:15:29.7 PST
Ernest PrabhakarOh, okay.
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2020-12-16 14:15:46.5 PST
Ernest PrabhakarI have no idea what you mean. So, I'm very curious to learn.
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2020-12-16 14:15:51.3 PST
David JohnsonOh, wow, I mean, like, the things that I.
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2020-12-16 14:15:57.3 PST
David JohnsonLike I what happens within the meeting is good and all of that has been, I think pretty wonderful, fantastic. The problem I see is there's a relational issue with bill and it just keeps getting works.
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2020-12-16 14:16:11.1 PST
David JohnsonAnd if I.
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2020-12-16 14:16:11.7 PST
Ernest PrabhakarOr what was the card to drove by a third party. Could you don't have live transcripts? Could you repeat that last sentence?
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2020-12-16 14:16:15.3 PST
David JohnsonOh, sure.
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2020-12-16 14:16:18.3 PST
David JohnsonYeah, everything in the group has been good, except there's been a relational problem with bill that's getting worse.
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2020-12-16 14:16:28.5 PST
David JohnsonAnd when I try, when I value wait the group as a whole.
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2020-12-16 14:16:36.3 PST
David JohnsonFrom like just my perspective of what I care about like maybe there's a restricted I have is like my top priorities relationship with bill, second priority is relationship with Janet third priority is Ernie is an interesting mystery that I would like to solve as possible. And then for priority is like, you know, it'd be nice if this group as a functional group that did something that sort of makes sense and there's, there's stuff after that but I mean, like these are the top bar priority.
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2020-12-16 14:16:58.5 PST
Ernest PrabhakarOkay.
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2020-12-16 14:17:02.7 PST
David JohnsonAnd just watching bill I in evaluating the whole group. It's like, well the group is still dysfunctional the Ernie mystery sort of, I don't know, I feel like we've also given up on it. Hi, Janet is fine and everything is going to be okay with Jim. It though. I don't know how excited she is about the group anymore. And then bill just is doing terrible.
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2020-12-16 14:17:30.3 PST
David JohnsonAnd when I, when I look at that as a whole, I'm just like, oh, okay. Well, this group has actually been nothing but disruptive and, and, and I want to be fair, I don't, I don't think this is the group's fault. I don't think the group has done something wrong except not sort of dealing with bill. I believe bill for this. I think.
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2020-12-16 14:17:55.5 PST
Ernest PrabhakarFascinating, when you for it so I guess that makes us we even.
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2020-12-16 14:18:01.5 PST
David JohnsonUh-huh I don't know because like.
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2020-12-16 14:18:08.7 PST
David JohnsonI still have contact with bill and like it's, I still have contact with bill and it's the thing that I, I'm worried about is just sort of like, well yeah, when I say I'm worried about bill and how things are going poorly for him. What I'm saying is that hey, had hoped and expectations for this group and he feels alienated needed from, well, I think he looks exactly like he feels alienated what from most people in the group.
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2020-12-16 14:18:11.1 PST
Ernest PrabhakarSorry.
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2020-12-16 14:18:41.1 PST
David JohnsonAnd.