#litlead - 2.14.13 Supporting Veteran ELA Teachers
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Big2HeartedVince Puzick@libertyegg #litlead we'll be working toward a disciplinary literacy approach so tchrs are not rdg tchrs but mentors in their field
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bilchinnBil ChinnSometimes veteran resisters just need someone to acknowledge they have contributed something ... #litlead
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bilchinnBil ChinnTeachers say 'enough' when it just doesn't make sense anymore. It all-ways has to make sense ... #litlead
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bilchinnBil ChinnVintage teachers don't want to be different - they just are. Try to understand them ... #litlead
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BYODRTBYOD RTRT @teachcmb56: Wrote about how our district went from 2 labs to BYOD in 4 years using Ed Camp model to train ALL teachers http://t.co/r ...
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CELeadershipCELTonight we will discuss how to support veteran ELA teachers through times of change. Take a moment & introduce yourself! #litlead
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CELeadershipCELQ1: What current ed issue do your veteran ELA teachers need the most support with now? #litlead
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CELeadershipCELHeather Rocco, Supervisor of ELA, grades 6 - 12 in NJ! #litlead
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CELeadershipCELQ2: How does your leadership style differ when working with veteran teachers vs. new teachers? #litlead
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CELeadershipCEL@KeriSkeeters I never host a meeting without something to nosh on! Chocolate and coffee are important, esp at 3 pm. #litlead
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CELeadershipCEL@pjmonahan It is important for teachers to see it as good practice, that other schools are using it successfully too. #litlead
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CELeadershipCELRT @libertyegg: Had great advice from a teacher-dont tell us to just figure it out. Show us what it might look like so we can do it #litlead
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CELeadershipCELQ3: What is your process for working with veteran teachers? Do you meet monthly? Discuss plans/assignments? Only meet when necess? #litlead
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CELeadershipCELRT @teachcmb56: how our district went from 2 labs to BYOD in 4 years using Ed Camp model to train ALL teachers http://t.co/VlMEbzps #litlead
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CELeadershipCELQ4: So what about those veterans who are resistant to change? #litlead
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CELeadershipCELQ4: How do we inspire those resistant teachers who think things are just fine they way they are? #litlead
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CELeadershipCEL@teachcmb56 What would be the best ones to suggest? #litlead
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CELeadershipCELWe need to reassure vets that not EVERYTHING will change. Just this one thing...maybe two. #litlead
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CELeadershipCEL@teachcmb56 We can't ignore tech anymore. It is in #CCSS explicitly and our students must know how to use it well. #litlead
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CELeadershipCELGreat ? @libertyegg Is it just semantics to say change is diff from continuous improvement? What causes teachers to say "enough"??? #litlead
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CELeadershipCELQ5: How do you celebrate the successes of your veteran teachers? #litlead
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CELeadershipCELQ6: How do you differentiate PD for vets? Anyone else trying the EdCamp model in district? Other ideas? #litlead
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CELeadershipCEL@teachcmb56 Can you say more about how the EdCamp in your district was organized? #litlead
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CELeadershipCEL@KeriSkeeters Is there one element of #CCSS that teachers struggle with most? #litlead
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CELeadershipCEL@teachcmb56 Was this on an in-service day? #litlead
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CELeadershipCELQ7: In our last few minutes, anyone want to share a veteran teacher's success story? #litlead
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CELeadershipCELThank you for participating everyone! Join us on March 14th where @ichrislehman will discuss Informational Texts in Research. #litlead
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CELeadershipCEL@KeriSkeeters Congratulations! #litlead
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CELeadershipCELEnjoy the rest of your Valentine's Day! Eat some chocolate! Another great chat. See you next month! #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather RoccoI would agree that tech is a big one. CCSS is too, and I think it will become bigger once PARCC becomes a reality. #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather RoccoWith the CCSS, we have been focusing on better instruction re: informational texts and use tech for writing process & publishing #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather Rocco@teachcmb56 Agreed. They know how to use FB to socialize, but using tech to teach is new to them too. #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather Rocco@KeriSkeeters I agree. I want them to exp everything they do as students. I encourage them to write everything they assign to Ss. #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather Rocco@pjmonahan @KeriSkeeters I have worked with professional texts as a teacher book club and found it to be successful overall. #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather Rocco@teachcmb56 Meaning...they are truly interested in the strategy/method they will eventually teach to others. #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather Rocco@KeriSkeeters Great point. I suspect it is usually fear of the unknown. #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather Rocco@KeriSkeeters Can you say more about this? Is it voluntary? How often? Are supervisors involved? Who determines the master tchrs? #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather Rocco@libertyegg @bilchinn I try to call veteran teachers vintage...like a fine wine! #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather Rocco@libertyegg @CELeadership Been there. You reach a point where you say, "It is going." Give them a year to teach it ONE. MORE. TIME. #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather Rocco@pjmonahan Good point. And include key veteran teachers in this process. #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather Rocco@libertyegg I think they chose the wrong profession if they entered thinking nothing would change for the next 30 yrs. #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather Rocco@libertyegg Action. Get in there and teach some classes for them. Let them see you are who you say you are & believe in the change. #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather Rocco@libertyegg I still teach 1 class. It is powerful to say, "This is what I'm doing w/ my students. Come and see." #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather RoccoDon't ask teachers to do anything you wouldn't or don't do in your classroom. Don't ask them to take risks if you don't either. #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather Rocco@libertyegg That's why they need @KyleneBeers @BobProbst @ctovani @pennykittle @englishcomp. I'm discussing this at next dept mtg. #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather Rocco@libertyegg I just decided today that I must go to #boothbay. Booking my room after #litlead.
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heatherroccoHeather Rocco@libertyegg @pjmonahan Reading strategies change as texts grow more sophisticated. We are always learning to read. #litlead
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heatherroccoHeather RoccoRT @CELeadership: Thank you for participating everyone! Join us on March 14th where @ichrislehman will discuss Informational Texts in Re ...
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jschwarzeteachJanice SchwarzeJanice, English Department Chair from Illinois here #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice Schwarzewithout a doubt - teacher evaluation #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice Schwarzeif we are talking about educational strategies, I would say using technology effectively #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice Schwarzeas leaders, we need to show them how to apply their skills to the new demands; the connections are there for most #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice Schwarze@pjmonahan i believe their experience of what works and doesn't work is invaluable if we take the time to listen #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice SchwarzeOne problem I have noticed is that we try to introduce too many things; picking one new tech strategy and developing it is better #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice Schwarze@CELeadership I totally agree #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice SchwarzeAt my next Institute Day we are watching a YouTube video on CCSS and then modeling how to use a podcast through our activity #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice Schwarzewe then will ask teachers to find podcasts that connect to their texts - goes with speaking & listening standards #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice SchwarzeMy last three department meetings have been shared with Social Studies department - that has been great PD on speaking & listening #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice Schwarze@KeriSkeeters Are these teachers in their own school? This learning lab is an interesting idea #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice SchwarzeI agree with Pat; nothing beats an honest one on one conversation #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice Schwarze@KeriSkeeters Agreed. I started using One note in meetings, and now several of my teachers are using it. It helps w/organizaiton #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice SchwarzeI also think we need to be careful when deciding what needs to be changed; change is not good just for change's sake #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice SchwarzeI agree with Heather; I have been a guest teacher in five different classes this year and have loved it - good for me, too! #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice SchwarzeIf you don't have a class, you can be the bridge for others; sharing the good things you have observed #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice SchwarzeAnd help them see how they need to model for students #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice Schwarze@libertyegg What is the event in Maine? #litlead
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jschwarzeteachJanice SchwarzeEnjoyed the conversation and the tips! #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri SkeetersKeri, ELA Curriculum Coordinator - Wentzville, MO #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri SkeetersA1: Transition to the CCSS. This will challenge them to change instruction and brings need to abandon what they have always done. #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri SkeetersI think teachers - especially vets - need to feel free to take risks with their teaching...with technology, etc. #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri SkeetersSBAC here in MO; however, we are unsure if that will become a reality. #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri Skeeters@pjmonahan Agreed; I think that many times they feel they can just hold tight for things to change again. Not this time.
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KeriSkeetersKeri Skeeters@libertyegg No. I'm hearing there is possible legislation regarding this. But SBAC is expensive. Might need a plan B. #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri SkeetersA2: I find myself anticipating their needs and responses. They need to feel supported and valued. I also bring food! #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri Skeeters@pjmonahan Again, I agree. We are moving slowly in my district - but 2015 is right around the corner. #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri SkeetersA problem that I'm experiencing, not so much with ELA teachers but all, that they want us to just tell them WHAT to do. #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri SkeetersI think they need to experience the standards like Ss will - but they aren't so fond of that. #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri SkeetersTo get Ts to use technology, we have to get them to use it first. I use Wallwisher (Padlet) as a brainstorm activity before I do #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri SkeetersWe have been using "learning labs" to have teachers watch instruction of master teachers and debrief after. #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri SkeetersA4: I think we have to try to really understand from where the resistance stems. #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri Skeeters@heatherrocco Yes, and honestly change is hard. My World Lang. teachers have had to change everything - curriculum & inst. So hard! #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri Skeeters@teachcmb56 Leaders must model use of technology, not just demand to see in in classrooms. #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri Skeeters@pjmonahan This is fair, I think. But sometimes everything has to change in order to do what is best for students. #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri Skeeters@heatherrocco Lit coaches tap Ts doing great things in reading wkshp. Begins with prebrief, then clsrm obsrvation, end w/debrief. #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri Skeeters@pjmonahan Well, curriculum, inst. and resources changed for these Ts, so it was everything. Smtims that's how we remain relevant. #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri SkeetersReally to make effective change we need to give teachers time to process the need for change and to learn about changes. #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri Skeeters@jschwarzeteach For sure - we need to learn together the changes that are important and make decisions collaboratively. #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri Skeeters@libertyegg I think you have to acknowledge that & agree, but you do have experience & want to understand them in order to help #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri Skeeters@heatherrocco Or provide them with opportunities to see it in action in other classrms - or to collab w/ others #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri Skeeters@CELeadership Understanding what the standards really say and mean. And envisioning how instruction will need to look (that's 2??) #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri SkeetersQ7: Today I wrked w/ HS tchrs re: writing. Expected much resistance when discussing volume & need to write daily. Nope! Was awesome #litlead
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KeriSkeetersKeri SkeetersThanks for the session. Looking forward to the next one. #litlead
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libertyeggScott EggerdingRT @CELeadership: Tonight we will discuss how to support veteran ELA teachers through times of change. introduce yourself! #litlead
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libertyeggScott Eggerding@CELeadership Scott Eggerding, high school Director of Curriculum &former English Chair from Illinois #litlead
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libertyeggScott EggerdingWe are having a hard time getting veteran teachers to see the value of using rubrics for feedback on writing #litlead
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libertyeggScott Eggerding@KeriSkeeters Did Missouri pull our of CCSS and/or SBAC? #litlead
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libertyeggScott Eggerding@CELeadership Veteran teachers need to know what is in it for them--is this a new fad? Research and concrete examples really help. #litlead
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libertyeggScott Eggerding@KeriSkeeters Food is key! #litlead
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libertyeggScott Eggerding@pjmonahan Had great advice from a teacher--don't tell us to just figure it out. Show us what it might look like so we can do it #litlead
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libertyeggScott Eggerding@jschwarzeteach But don't bring choloate covered espresso beans for a full day workshop. Too jittery. #litlead
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