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1919-12-13Schalk, RaySoxKlein, Frank O.Collyer's Eye1Catcher Ray Schalk in Huge White Sox ExposeTwo months after the Series, Ray Schalk names the seven players who he says would be “missing from the lineup” in 1920 — all except Buck Weaver. It is the first time that the suspected Black Sox were named in print. The Collyer's Eye report also includes Cicotte's claim (in an interview with Detroit writer Harry Bradford?) that Cicotte had promised him a $10,000 bonus if he won 30 games.
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1919-12-xxCicotte, EddieBlack SoxBradford, HarryDetroit?n/aIn 12/13/1919 edition of Collyer's Eye, it is claimed that Cicotte recently told Harry Bradford in Detroit that he was “through with the game” and that Comiskey had “promised the famous knuckle ball artist a bonus of $10,000 if he won thirty games. This, Cicotte claims, never was made good.”
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1920-09-29Jackson, JoeBlack SoxChicago Tribune2Two Sox Confess; Eight Indicted; Inquiry Goes OnHours after his testimony, Jackson spoke to a Tribune reporter about why he went to the grand jury: “I heard I'd been indicted. I decided that these men couldn't put anything over on me.” He also claimed he had talked with Gandil, Risberg, and McMullin and they responded, 'You poor simp, go ahead and squawk.” … He also added, perhaps for the benefit of gamblers, “Let me tell you something. The eight of us did our best to kick it [Game 3], and little Dick Kerr won the game by his pitching. Because he won it, these gamblers double-crossed us for double-crossing them.” He concludes by saying, “I'm not going to get far from my protectors until this blows over. Swede's a hard guy.”
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1920-09-29Felsch, HappyBlack SoxReutlinger, HarryChicago Evening AmericanI Got Mine — $5,000 — FelschThe day after Cicotte and Jackson testified to the grand jury, Felsch gave an interview in which he proclaimed, “The joke seems to be on us.” He doesn't hide his own involvement, saying, “I'm as guilty as any of them. We were all in it alike.” But he does say, “I had nothing to do with the loss of the World Series. … The breaks just came so that I was not given the chance.” (More on this interview in Gene Carney's Notes #420 (10/15/2007). Background on Reutlinger's role can be found in Robert J. Casey's 1943 book Such Interesting People.)
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1920-09-30Roush/Wingo/Ruether/Daubert/Rath/MoranRedsPhelan, W.A.Brooklyn EagleReds Amazed at Confessions; Thought They Won on MeritW.A. Phelan spoke with several Reds players about the 1919 Series. Ivey Wingo on Cicotte: "When we hit him we considered it just so much proof of the weakness of American League pitching. ... We thought his two horrible fielding errors were only unlucky breaks." ... Dutch Ruether: "It was gossip before the game that Cicotte was really all in over at the racetrack. They were declaring that he was worn out by his hard season and that his arm was gone." ... Jake Daubert: "I wasn't paying much attention to Schalk and his signals, so I don't know whether Cicotte crossed him or not." ... Pat Moran: "I am sure none of my boys even dreamed they were being handed any gifts." ... Morris Rath: "Nobody among us dreamed of a frameup." ... Edd Roush: "Yes, Cicotte was soft and nice as velvet, but that meant nothing, so we thought."
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1920-10-01Gandil, ChickBlack SoxNew York TimesGandil Calls Charge a LieFrom a hospital in Lufkin, Texas, Gandil denied being involved in the fix: "It is impossible for me to believe that Joe Jackson and Williams have said what the newspapers credit them with saying. If Williams has given out such a statement, he is being untruthful and I shall give him a little trouble proving this stuff when I get out of the hospital. ... I want to clear my name of such scandal, as I expect to stay with the game for some time."
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1920-10-02Weaver/Risberg/McMullinBlack SoxChicago Herald Examinern/aAs cited in Bill Lamb's book: At a joint press conference with Risberg and McMullin, Buck Weaver professed his innocence. "They have nothing on me," asserted Buck. "I am going to hire the best lawyer in Chicago to defend me and I'm going to be cleared." ... Risberg added, "I made Jackson apologize for the story he spread about me. I never threatened him."
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1920-10-02Lynn, Byrd/McClellan, HerveySoxChicago Evening Postn/aByrd Lynn and Hervey McClellan accused their teammates of throwing games in 1920. Lynn, one of Lefty Williams's best friends, said, "We lost the (1920) pennant because certain players — they are among the eight indicted by the Cook County grand jury — didn't want to win."
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1920-10-30Collins, EddieSoxKlein, Frank O.Collyer's EyeCollins Charges 1920 Games 'Fixed'After the scandal was first exposed, Collins said “there wasn’t a single doubt in my mind” as early as the first inning of Game One that the games were being thrown. Collins added, “If the gamblers didn’t have (Buck) Weaver and (Eddie) Cicotte in their pocket then I don’t know a thing about baseball” – and that he told “all this” to owner Charles Comiskey (which Comiskey always denied).
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1920-11-27Collins, ShanoSoxShannon, PaulBoston PostCollins Shows Crooks Fooled Fellow Playersn/a
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1921-03-14Gandil, ChickBlack SoxLos Angeles Evening Expressn/aAs cited in Gene Carney's book (p. 120), Gandil recalled that "Comiskey had promised Cicotte a bonus in 1917 and refused to pay when Cicotte came up a game short. (He did not mention the size of the bonus, nor did he accuse Comiskey of tampering with Cicotte's starts.)"
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1921-09-09Cicotte, EddieBlack SoxWalker, BertDetroit TimesCicotte Says He Will Now Return to Farm and Remain There Among Chickens and Hens(Notes from reprint of interview in Fayetteville (NC) Observer on 9/9/1921): Cicotte tells Bert Walker, “I am going back to the farm and stay there.” But then there are reports of Cicotte pitching for “an independent team outside of Detroit.” Anonymous Fayetteville writer adds: “They did not realize the insincerity of one who is a double-cross.”
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1922-01-14Weaver, BuckBlack SoxNew York TimesBuck Weaver Asks For ReinstatementWeaver makes it known that he met with Judge Landis last week and made a personal plea for reinstatement. “I decided to keep quiet and play my best.”
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1922-05-12Weaver, BuckBlack SoxKilgallen, James L.INSLincoln (NE) Star19Weaver Squawks on Diamond StarsWeaver claims that the Detroit Tigers “deliberately permitted” the White Sox to win seven games at the tail end of the 1917 season (charges that would be brought up again in 1926-27) and that each White Sox player had contributed $45 to a pool rewarding the Tigers. Weaver says this is the first he had ever heard of fixing games. Happy Felsch, through attorney Ray Cannon, had recently filed an affidavit in Milwaukee alleging the same thing.
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1922-07-01Risberg, SwedeBlack SoxDuluth (MN) News-TribuneWeaver, Risberg Have Laugh on Newark 'Doubles'On a post-ban baseball tour of northern Minnesota, Swede Risberg and Buck Weaver are shown a newspaper dispatch from New Jersey stating that they're playing there under assumed names. “I must have a double,” Swede says. “Someone is having a lot of fun playing that he is Swede Risberg. He's goldbricking somebody.” Weaver says, “I always thought I was pretty fast. But not so fast that I could be in two places at once.”
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1922-07-01Weaver, BuckBlack SoxDuluth (MN) News-TribuneWeaver, Risberg Have Laugh on Newark 'Doubles'On a post-ban baseball tour of northern Minnesota, Swede Risberg and Buck Weaver are shown a newspaper dispatch from New Jersey stating that they're playing there under assumed names. “I must have a double,” Swede says. “Someone is having a lot of fun playing that he is Swede Risberg. He's goldbricking somebody.” Weaver says, “I always thought I was pretty fast. But not so fast that I could be in two places at once.”
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1922-07-22Jackson, JoeBlack SoxFarrell, Henry L.UPIFranklin (PA) News-Herald3Shoeless Joe' Defends Record in 1919 SeriesIn front of a crowd of “about 200 in an uptown hall” in New York, Jackson makes “his first public speech in his campaign to get back into baseball”: “I ain't guilty of nothing. … I tried my hardest in the 1919 World Series. All I want is a square deal from the fans.”
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1924-03-25Jackson, JoeBlack SoxGreenville (SC) News9Joe Jackson Says He Is Far From Broke, And To Fight Case To The LimitJackson was in his hometown "on business" when he received official notice of the Milwaukee jury's $16K special verdict (which had been set aside by the judge for Jackson's perjury.) No byline on the story, but it is likely Scoop Latimer of Greenville News that he talks to. He asserted, "I'm far from broke, although anyone could find use for a lump sum of $16,000." He reiterated his innocence: "Comiskey knew I was trying to play my best. ... I'm as innocent of any wrongdoing in that series as you." He also said: "If you had found $5,000 in your room, you wouldn't have known what to do, would you? I explained it to Comiskey. I'm entitled to that verdict and I believe I will get it. Two courts have said I am innocent, and I know I am innocent." Jackson was dressed "neatly" in pinstriped suit; on his watch fob were two championship emblems: 1917 White Sox and 1910 Southern League with New Orleans.
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1925-10-08Gandil, ChickBlack SoxMarshall, S.L.A.El Paso (TX) Herald5Slam-BangsBuck Weaver leaves Arizona to return to Chicago to "make his annual plea for reinstatement." Chick Gandil, his teammate with Douglas Blues of outlaw Frontier League, offers some insight: "Buck knows that Landis will never reinstate him, but he intends to keep on reapplying as long as he can get someone to listen to him. Landis will never reinstate any man who has been ousted from the game. He realizes that if he puts one back, he's got to reinstate all of them. When a man is once outlawed, he may as well make up his mind that he's through with organized baseball for good."
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1927-01-10Risberg, SwedeBlack SoxAPAugusta (GA) Chronicle'Conspiracy' Angle is Considered in Risberg ScandalRisberg back home in Rochester, MN, after Judge Landis' hearing in Chicago. He expresses hope that ex-players he implicated wouldn't be banned. “I know what it is to try to make a living in the bushes.”
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1927-01-10Gandil, ChickBlack SoxEl Paso (TX) Herald2Exoneration Now Seen For Accused Ball Stars On his way home to Hurley, NM, Gandil predicted a complete whitewashing of all ballplayers in the recent scandal. "Landis has a tough job on his hands," Gandil said. "In fact, it's too weighty a matter to place in the hands of one man, but I can't see any way out for him except to clear the men who have been accused." ... He also said it "made my blood boil" to see how other players turned on Ty Cobb. "I look for Cobb to fight this case and come clear. It will be a different matter for Speaker. ... He has aged 15 years in the last few months." ... Gandil: Buck Weaver "threw the Swede down like a dirty dog when the pinch came. ... I was never so surprised in my life as when he backtracked. ... It left Risberg high and dry."
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1927-01-19Collins, EddieSoxNANALos Angeles TimesB2Twenty One Years of BaseballIn part 15 of a syndicated series under Collins' byline by the North American News Service, Collins goes into great detail about “The Old White Sox.” He said, “The White Sox of '19 had the greatest possibilities of any baseball combination ever assembled.” Goes through entire lineup with comments on every player. Offers praise to Lefty Williams for final start at Cleveland in Sept. 1920 in front of hostile crowd.
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1927-03-13Weaver, BuckBlack SoxChicago TribuneA1Landis Wrecks Weaver's Hope of Playing BallJudge Landis responds to Weaver's personal plea for reinstatement from January with a long letter upholding his own decision of 1922 not to allow Weaver back into organized baseball. Buck says “I begged for a separate trial, but my lawyers advised me against it. I didn't testify because they wouldn't let me.”
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1927-03-24Weaver, BuckBlack SoxChicago Tribune17Buck Weaver to Play Ball in ChicagoA week after Judge Landis again dismissed his plea for reinstatement, Buck Weaver signs a contract with Chicago semipro team owned by Billy Niesen. “I'm going to play the best game I can for old Bill Niesen and the lily whites who kicked me out of the racket are going to be the most jealous birds around town,” Buck said.
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1927-04-05Weaver, BuckBlack SoxChicago Tribune21Semi-Pros Put O.K. Mark on Buck WeaverThe Midwest Association unanimously voted to allow Buck Weaver to play semipro ball with them in Chicago before a crowd of about 300. Weaver said, “I have been playing semipro baseball every year since 1920.” He took a shot at Cobb and Speaker, saying they “were reinstated on the same kind of evidence in which they barred me.” He said major-league scouts had regularly asked him to help find prospects and “they never were turned back for having played ball with me.” He says he recommended Willie Underhill to the Cleveland Indians and Bill Murphy to the PCL's Hollywood Stars.
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1927-04-07Jackson, JoeBlack SoxGrayson, HarryNEASanta Ana (CA) Register17Shoeless Joe' Jackson Star in Valet Loop NowIn interview (possibly with NEA's Harry Grayson) at his Savannah Valet Service, Jackson “doesn't care a whoop” about reinstatement. “I don't like being called an outlawed player because I fail to see where I am one. I was never convicted of any charge in any court.”
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1929-01-13Comiskey, CharlesSoxCleveland Plain DealerComiskey Tells His Story of Black Sox and Feud With BanAfter a flattering biographical series on Ban Johnson, written by Earl Obenshain, appeared in the Plain Dealer, Charles Comiskey wrote an angry letter to editor S.D. Otis responding to Johnson's claims. Comiskey objected to a statement that “if it had not been for Johnson's intercession, I would have been indicted in connection with the Black Sox scandal. … On the contrary, it was I who procured the confessions that caused the indictments of the players.” Comiskey also claims to have told John Heydler about the fix “after the first game” and met with “an East St. Louis gambler” following the Series. “If anything,” Comiskey says, “(Johnson) hindered rather than aided our investigations.”
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1929-03-29Collins, EddieSoxFarrell, Henry L.NEA
Jefferson City (MO) Post-Tribune
5Hooks and SlidesIn a syndicated column by Farrell, Collins says "There was another fellow who relished the game, in my opinion, even more than the Babe does. His name is not in good repute now, but I never have played with a player who seemed to get more of a delight out of baseball than Buck Weaver did. And I think those persons who pick all-time baseball teams and do not consider Buck Weaver as an all-time (third) baseman are all wrong. He was one of the very best I ever have seen, and Jimmy Collins is in there with him."
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1929-04-03Collins, EddieSoxFarrell, Henry L.NEA
Jefferson City (MO) Post-Tribune
6Hooks and SlidesIn a syndicated column by Farrell, Collins answers question of whether 1927 Yankees were greatest team of all-time. Calls White Sox of 1917-19 the “most powerful offensive club I have ever seen.” Singles out Jackson, Felsch, Gandil as “three of the hardest and most natural hitters I ever [saw].” Also praises Buck Weaver and Lefty Williams.
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1930-03-18Wingo, IvyRedsMcGill, RalphGreenville (SC) News11Dobbs Once Picked Leading Hitter of Southern League Before A Game Was PlayedIn a reprint of an Atlanta Constitution article, McGill tells stories of Joe Jackson in the minor leagues. He credits Reds catcher Ivy Wingo with an anecdote about how players would pretend to read a paper where Jackson was about to be released to take advantage of his illiteracy. "He was hitting about .400 at the time," Wingo said, "but he always fell for it. ... Joe was a great player and all right. He never would have got into that trouble had he not been persuaded into it by the others. He never looked upon himself as a star and he always thought that anything those he looked on as stars did was all right. He's doing well now and all of us who knew him are glad of it."
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1930-05-30Weaver, BuckBlack SoxBraucher, WilliamNEAMadison (WI) Capital Times16Hooks and Slides“The name of the eighth man (out) persistently is repeated because he will not let it die.” … “I am innocent,” (Weaver) says. “I have new evidence to prove that I had no hand in that crooked series. I played the game the best I know how.”
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1930-12-13Comiskey, CharlesSoxKeener, SidSt. Louis Star10Comiskey Wanted to Cancel 1919 SeriesComiskey, "with tears rolling down his cheeks," tells how he wanted to stop the 1919 World Series before Game 1, but blamed Ban Johnson: "The first inkling I received that something was crooked came when I was informed several hours before Game 1 ... while I was holding a conference in my hotel room, I was told these gamblers were operating openly in the lobby of the Sinton Hotel, holding $1,000 bills. ... I sent several officials over to investigate. I was shocked when I received their report. ... I met Mr. Heydler out at the park before the game started. I told him what I had heard. He was stupefied. ... Johnson, Johnson, Johnson! I would have given anything I owned to have called off the whole series after the first game."
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1931-05-23Risberg, SwedeBlack SoxSioux Falls (SD) Argus-LeaderRisberg's Silence Costs Him Fortune; Landis Locks Door; It's Too Late NowSwede moves to South Dakota to play baseball with the independent Sioux Falls Canaries team. Opens up about the scandal in an interview with local newspaper: “For Risberg, the title's chapter is 'The Lost Fortune. $150,000 to $200,000 is what the decision barring him from organized baseball cost Risberg, he figures. That's a terrible penalty for a man who believes himself the victim of circumstantial evidence.” … Risberg “still swears he was innocent of any conniving with gamblers or that he was promised or received any of the money which was accepted by other members of the team.”
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1932-03-09Jackson, JoeBlack SoxBraucher, WilliamNEABlytheville (AR) Courier News6Shoeless' Joe Takes Time For ReminiscenceIn a wide-ranging interview in Savannah, Jackson claims that he “asked to be suspended before the World Series. … I didn't want to play hard after I heard what was going on.”
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1933-01-10Gleason, KidSoxKeener, SidSt. Louis Star and Times12Sid Keener's ColumnAfter Kid Gleason's death, Keener relates a conversation he had with the White Sox manager before the season-ending series against the Browns in October 1920. "My heart aches today. ... I would have bet a million dollars anything like that wouldn't have happened on this ball club. ... Just think, I ate with them, traveled with them, lived with them, schemed and planned with them, took some of them when they were young and worked hard to make them stars. ... I loved them like a father loves his sons." ... Gleason was asked why he started Williams in Game Eight: "I thought the boys would straighten out and upset everything. ... I placed too much faith in the fellows, but last fall it was hard for me to believe that the players were throwing me down."
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1933-07-24Jackson, JoeBlack SoxWalsh, Davis J.INSSan Diego Evening Tribune1Exposure of Aged Ball Scandal ThreatenedAn “offer is being made” in Jackson's name to “expose baseball.” … “Some national magazines are understood to have been approached.” No details given.
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1933-12-19Jackson, JoeBlack SoxAPFlorence (SC) Morning News6Jackson Applies for Readmission to Pro BaseballGreenville mayor John Mauldin files petition to Judge Landis on behalf of Jackson, who reportedly filled out a two-page “application” letter at Landis' request. Jackson, now the manager of a barbecue restaurant, says, “About all I want now is a minor-league connection. That'll make me happy.”
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1934-01-16Risberg, SwedeBlack SoxINSLincoln (NE) Star8Diamond Outlaw Asks Baseball Heads to Lift Life-time SuspensionRisberg is back in San Francisco, looking for a job in baseball. “If I had held up a bank, I would have paid the penalty by this time and would be out of jail and able to earn a living.”
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1934-01-28Felsch, HappyBlack SoxLevy, SamMilwaukee Journal35Happy Felsch, White Sox Holdout 15 Years Ago, Hopes His Son, Now 11, Will Become a Major League StarNotes taken from Howard Millard's “Bait for Bugs” column in Decatur (IL) Herald of 1/30/34: “When Jackson's petition was turned down a few days ago, Happy Felsch talked to Sam Levy of Milwaukee Journal. He claims Sox of 1920 “probably were the lowest paid major leaguers in modern baseball history.” He admits “he and the rest of the boys were a lot of dumb businessmen when it came to signing contracts” with Comiskey. … Also talks up Joe Jackson's hitting ability and laments that Jackson didn't get a chance to hit with the lively ball: “He'd kill an infielder every day.”
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1937-02-25Kerr, DickeySoxBloom, DavidMemphis Commercial-AppealDick Kerr, Breaking 17-Year Silence, Tells of '19 Series(Notes from reprint of interview in TSN 2/25/1937): Kerr tells Dave Bloom: "It was the greatest team that ever was in baseball.” Kerr says of plot to fix Series, “We knew it all the time. A newspaperman tipped me off. But what could we do?”
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1937-03-02Roush, EddRedsDaniel, DanNew York World-Telegramn/aIn Red Legs and Black Sox, author Susan Dellinger cites this interview as the earliest recorded instance of Edd Roush telling the story about Jimmy Widmeyer and the 1919 World Series. Daniel quotes Roush, “Well, I'm going to tell you something I have kept under my hat for eighteen years.”
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1937-03-03Roush, EddRedsAPHamilton (OH) Journal-News14Edd Roush Tells Yankee Rookies of Plot to Buy Out Reds During 1919 World's Series With ChisoxAP wire story includes anecdote about Edd Roush at Yankees spring training in St. Petersburg (FL), telling a group of rookies about gamblers approaching Hod Eller “on the morning of the eighth game.” Was this a follow-up to the Dan Daniel column from yesterday?
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1937-03-10Jackson, JoeBlack SoxMcCann, RichardNEABlytheville (AR) Courier News6Baseball Still is 'First Love' of Joe JacksonJackson, “fat as an alderman,” talks about his happy life in Greenville. “Sure, I'd love to be in the game. But I'd rather be out than to be in and bossed by a czar.”
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1937-05-09Jackson, JoeBlack SoxLatimer, ScoopGreenville (SC) News17Joe Jackson, Back in Game, Says He'd Hit 75 Homers With Lively Ball"Fat and fifty," Joe Jackson has agreed to manage the Woodside Mill semipro team. One of Woodside's star pitchers is Joe's brother Jerry, who he says "is a better hitter than I was when I broke in." Joe says he was "given a raw deal" by Judge Landis and hopes the effort to clear his name by Greenville mayor John Maudlin is successful. He says he had faint hopes of donning the big-league "monkey suit" again, but claimed he could have hit .500 with 75 home runs if he got to use the lively ball. "I can still hit and throw, my eyes are as keen as ever, and it would be easy to get down to my normal playing weight (of 186 pounds) ..." Latimer also quotes extensively from a recent letter sent to him by Ty Cobb from Menlo Park, California, in which Cobb praises Jackson's ability as a hitter. As Joe takes batting practice, with a photographer capturing his swing on a long drive to the fence, he says with a grin, "These are things that even Judge Landis can't take away. No sirree, nobody but Father Time can take that from me, and you can see he's slow about doing it."
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1938-04-30Collins, EddieSoxLardner, JohnSaturday Evening Post14Remember the Black Sox?Collins is one of the few quoted in Lardner's well-known story. He says of 1919 Sox: “They were the best. There never was a ballclub like that one., in more ways than one. I hate to say it, but they were better than the Athletics I played with from 1910 to 1914. Offensively, from top to bottom, there wasn't a breather for an opposing pitcher in the lineup. Cicotte, Williams, Kerr, and Faber were tops as pitchers in the American League at the time — all on one club.”
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1938-07-28Schalk, RaySoxGrayson, HarryNEASanta Ana (CA) Register6The PayoffSchalk talks up prospects Johnny Vander Meer and Vance Page, then expresses opinion that Lefty Williams “would have been the finest pitcher in history had he kept out of the Black Sox Scandal.”
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1939-10-03Jackson, JoeBlack SoxINS
Wilkes-Barre (PA) Evening News
Jackson Picks Yanks to Defeat CincinnatiJackson is visited by an INS reporter at his Greenville liquor store just before the start of the 1939 World Series. Jackson picked the Yankees because “they have one of the best teams in the history of baseball.” He compares the '39 Reds to the team he faced in 1919, but can't say which is better. “Baseball players are pretty much the same today as they were in my time. The main difference in the game is in the lively ball.” … Jackson also promises to “give the real low-down on what happened in 1919” in a book to be published soon.
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1940-11-28Schalk, RaySoxBurns, EdThe Sporting News10Unforgettable Memory Left With Schalk by Tears of Black Sox When Told by Comiskey of BanishmentIn second of a 2-part series (the first doesn't mention the scandal at all), Schalk says he has turned down “considerable sums” to tell the “inside story” of 1919 Series and still has “confused emotions” about it all. Denies a story that he and Swede Risberg fought in the clubhouse, but says he did “challenge Risberg verbally early in the Series.” He also denies reports that the Black Sox were “disgruntled”: “Whatever happened was not traceable to any general discontent.” … He says he'll never forget when Comiskey “came into the clubhouse and told eight of the boys they had been exposed and were through forever. … I watched several of the ruined athletes break down and cry like babies.” (But Gandil wasn't there?)
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1940-12-27Neale, GreasyRedsLardner, JohnNANACumberland (TN) News19Pious Greasy Neale Often Answers His Own PrayersIn Lardner's syndicated column after Neale took Pittsburgh Steelers coaching job, he explained that after the 1919 Series, Neale “took to the platform and addressed many a church supper on the subject of the power of prayer,” which Neale credited with the Reds winning “when all the world thought Chicago would win.”
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1941-04-11Jackson, JoeBlack SoxPovich, ShirleyWashington Post22Say It Ain't So, Joe'Povich sits with Jackson in the grandstand for a Senators-Tigers exhibition game in Greenville. Povich works up the nerve to ask about the scandal: “Well, Sonny, I'm as innocent as you are.” Jackson is “not bitter toward baseball.” But “I don't care for Judge Landis.”
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1941-08-17Risberg, SwedeBlack SoxCohn, ArtOakland (CA) Tribune10Cohn-ing TowerRisberg came to town to visit his sister and ended up talking about the scandal. "There are only six men living who know the truth." He suggested only Chick Gandil might tell the story someday. Why not him? "For the simple reason I don't know the whole story. Gandil told me (what it was all about) in 1927." ... He also scoffed at the modern game after watching PCL games recently. "In my day a player's chief concern was to win. Now his main worry is padding his individual batting average. There used to be some brains in the game."
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1941-08-22Risberg, SwedeBlack SoxDunbar, LeeOakland (CA) Tribune36The Bull PenDunbar spends “some time chumming at Harold Broom's Franklin Street soda fountain” with Risberg, catching up on whereabouts of his old White Sox teammates. (Swede gets most of them right.) No mention of World Series scandal.
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1942-08-02Jackson, JoeBlack SoxLatimer, ScoopGreenville (SC) News15World's Greatest Slugger Finds Supreme Happiness With KiddiesLatimer spends an afternoon with Jackson weeks after his 54th birthday. He had been confined to a sickbed after a recent heart attack. A group of neighborhood boys brought him a gift: a replica of Black Betsy. "I never pulled away from the plate as long as I was in baseball," he said. "I gave the game all I had." This is an excerpt of Sporting News feature that would appear a month later.
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1942-09-24Jackson, JoeBlack SoxLatimer, ScoopThe Sporting News1Joe Jackson, Contented Carolinan at 54, Forgets Bitter Dose in His Cup and Glories in His 12 Hits in '19 SeriesLong profile of Jackson on front page of The Sporting News (which reportedly earned a rebuke from Judge Landis to J.G. Taylor Spink). “Supreme Being to be my judge,” Jackson says. “I gave the game all I had.” ... Jackson talked about his life after being banned. He had made "a hard living out of baseball" but now "the world couldn't treat me any better. I have no regrets and I love to look back upon the diamond and the fellows I knew." He said the famous Say it Ain't So story was "just a lie." ... Portions of this interview were also excerpted in Latimer's columns in the Greenville News.
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1942-09-27Collins, EddieSoxLatimer, ScoopGreenville (SC) News15Jackson Thinks Cardinals Can Push Yankees to 7-Game LimitIn excerpt from the Sporting News article that appeared that week, Latimer relates a conversation he had last fall (1941) with Eddie Collins at the Hotel Commodore comparing Jackson and Ted Williams. "Joe instinctively did everything right on the playing field," Collins said. "I can't recall that he ever missed a signal from the bench or coach, when he was at bat or on the bases. And he always threw the ball in from the outfield to the right spot." As for the comparison to Williams, Collins said, "This season Ted showed me he was one of the greatest — if not the greatest — hitters of all time. But Jackson was a slugger without an equal. Jackson would go for and usually hit any kind of pitch within his reach. Williams seemed able to wait out a pitch and get a good ball."
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1943-04-24Shellenback, FrankSoxGrayson, HarryNEAOlean (NY) Times-Herald6Black Sox Expunged From Records, But How They Could Play The GamePart 18 of a series, profiling 1919 Sox players. Now Red Sox pitching coach, Shellenback quoted about Eddie Cicotte's great spitball.
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1943-07-10Collins, EddieSoxWilliams, JoeNew York World-Telegramn/aCollins is quoted that he “should have recognized the tip-off in the very first game” when Buck Weaver missed a hit-and-run sign and Collins “was out by a yard at second.” Collins asked Buck if he “was asleep,” and Weaver snapped, “Quit trying to alibi and play ball.” … Collins also recalled a “crucial game” in 1920 when Weaver made an error and Dickey Kerr came off the field, crying,, “If you fellows are throwing this one, let me in on it.”
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1944-04-13Sallee, SlimRedsThe Sporting News9What's Become of Sallee? Slim's Still TossingIn an interview by “a staff correspondent” (unnamed), Sallee recalled that he “didn't catch it [gambling rumors] at the time. I couldn't believe it although it was whispered around hotels and gambling headquarters that something underhanded was taking place. … No one ever dreamed there would be anything shady in a World's Series.”
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1944-11-23Neale, GreasyRedsSmith, RedThe Sporting News17Greasy Proves He's Still Grid SlickerIn a story mostly about his football exploits, Neale says, “They say the Sox threw that Series. But none of us ever suspected it, even when a queer thing happened just before the last game.” Neale tells the story of the Moran-Eller confrontation in the clubhouse, and Moran asks him if he means to win: “If it's within my power,” Eller responds. Neale also says, “I read in some magazine that I was a notorious long-ball hitter and Jackson deliberately played too close. [But] I hit that ball against the screen.” … Neale adds: “What I'm driving at, fellows like Jackson and Gandil and Felsch and Cicotte played great ball. They didn't have to throw that Series. We had a pitching staff that would lick anybody.”
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1945-03-26Neale, GreasyRedsRice, GrantlandNANANebraska State Journal5SportlightRice column on successor to Judge Landis focuses on 1919 scandal. He interviews Greasy Neale, then coach of Philadelphia Eagles. “We had no idea at all” that Series was fixed. “The fellows rumored as the crooks starred all thru the series.” He continued, “I think they threw the first game. But most of them had gotten so little money, I honestly believe they tried to win the others. … I'll admit, they had to be the greatest artists in baseball history to throw any game outside the first one, for those labeled as crooks looked and acted like great ballplayers. … How could we figure they were crooked?”
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1946-04-21Jackson, JoeBlack SoxLatimer, ScoopGreenville (SC) News9Friends Want Joe InstatedInformed of an effort to help clear his name, Joe Jackson said "he, personally, would never ask for reinstatement." Joe's friends "plan to submit an appeal to Commissioner (Happy) Chandler with a petition signed by citizens of Greenville and fans around the country." ... Joe was "paid a surprise visit the other night by Joe Tinker."
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1947-01-10Faber, RedSoxSainsbury, EdUPIRockford (IL) Register-Republic20Faber Recalls How Gamblers Were Ruination of White SoxIn wake of a New York football bribery scandal, Faber talks about 1919 WS: “Loss of those men ruined our club. If we had kept them, we would have gone on winning pennants, or fighting for them, for years.”
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1947-08-02Weaver, BuckBlack SoxBrickhouse, JackWGN Radion/aAs cited in Jack Brickhouse's Thanks For Listening!, Weaver is interviewed on WGN Radio by Jack Brickhouse after listeners named him to an all-time White Sox team. No audio recording is known to exist. According to Brickhouse, he and Buck talked about the scandal afterward (not on the air) and Buck said his one ambition was to clear his name, that he applied annually to the commissioner about reinstatement but was told nothing could be done because Buck had refused to testify at the trial. Brickhouse said he offered to have Buck take a polygraph lie detector test and promised to help him clear his name, but Weaver turned him down.
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1949-01-01Collins, EddieSoxMeany, TomBaseball's Greatest TeamsCollins is quoted as saying of the Sox, “They seethed with discord and bitterness. Time after time they were close to open fighting with fists among themselves. And still they won going away.”
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1949-06-25Kerr, DickeySoxWilliams, JoeNew York World-TelegramDickie Kerr Discusses the Black SoxAs cited by Gene Carney, “Kerr recalled Gleason sending in Fred McMullin to pinch-hit, only to learn later that McMullin was in on the conspiracy.”
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1949-10-01Jackson, JoeBlack SoxBisher, FurmanSport MagazineThis is the Truth!The young Atlanta columnist Bisher visits Jackson in Greenville. “I haven't been resentful at all. … Baseball failed to keep its faith with me.” This is perhaps the most famous of all the post-banishment interviews given by Jackson, and is often cited as the “only” interview given by Jackson after 1919.
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1950-02-20Kerr, DickeySoxNEA
Delaware County (PA) Daily Times
16Kerr: My Biggest BonerKerr contributes to an NEA series on “My Biggest Boner” with a first-person account of taking off for second base in Game 6 of 1919 World Series only to find Ray Schalk standing there.
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1950-11-01Collins, EddieSoxLeonard, JimThe Sporting News13From Sullivan to CollinsIn 4th installment of a series, Collins talks extensively to Jim Leonard about the 1919 Series. “I was to be a witness to the greatest tragedy in baseball’s history – and I didn’t know it at the time.” (This contradicts Collins' claim from 1920 when he said “there wasn't a doubt in my mind” that the Series was being thrown.) … He talks of the club's dissension. “In 1919, we were a club that pulled apart rather than together. There were frequent arguments and open hostility.”
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1951-06-xxJackson, JoeBlack SoxCarmichael, JohnSport MagazineThe Chicago White SoxAs cited by Gene Carney, Jackson was visited in Greenville by Carmichael of the Chicago Daily News. He claimed to have warned White Sox officials about the fix: “Maybe I ran with the wrong players. Maybe I heard things. But I tried to clear up the mess before it broke and nobody listened. I went to Mr. Comiskey three weeks before the Series. I asked him to pull the team out; told him what I heard. He laughed and said, 'We got 100 men on guard … nothing could be pulled.'”
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1951-07-01Ruether, DutchRedsSmith, LyallDetroit Free PressC-2Bonus Crazy' Detroiters Irk Major League ScoutIn an interview with Lyall Smith that focused on 'bonus babies,' Dutch Ruether was asked about his own career and the 1919 World Series: "I was a little deflated the next year when the story came out that the Sox ahd thrown the Series. I still wonder if it was actually that way ..."
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1952-06-10Ruether, DutchRedsWilson, Earl
Uniontown (PA) Morning Herald
4It Happened Last NightIn an unnamed wire-service notes column, Wilson tells of a recent conversation with Ruether: “In that first game,” he said, “I got two triples, a single, and a base on balls — a record that's never been beaten. And then I found out they were only foolin'.”
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1953-07-25Cicotte, EddieBlack SoxLewis, DaveLong Beach (CA) Independent11Once Over LightlyLewis follows up on a recent statement by Ty Cobb that Cicotte was trickiest spitballer of all-time. He calls Cicotte in Detroit to talk about pitching. Cicotte laughed and said: “The (shine ball) was successful because of the mental hazard the players themselves created.” Says Eddie Summers, not him, deserves credit for inventing the knuckleball.
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1953-12-28Weaver, BuckBlack SoxMabley, JackChicago Daily NewsBuck Weaver Still Hoping to Clear Name in BaseballWeaver says he's waiting on a response from commissioner Ford Frick. “All I want out of life now is to eat, and take care of my folks — and clear my name. I want to get reinstated in baseball.” He laments how long he's been punished: “Even if I knew something — my god, why punish a man this long? Even a murderer serves his time. I got life. It hurts.” He said he's been to two baseball games since he was banned: “I wanted to see Dizzy Dean. I like him. Real guts. And I wanted to see the Yankees.”
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1954-01-03Felsch, HappyBlack SoxLevy, SamMilwaukee Journal59Baseball's Darkest HourAfter death of detective Cal Crim, Milwaukee Journal's Sam Levy reminisces about Black Sox Scandal. He says of Felsch: "Felsch, like most of the others involved, always has denied that he accepted a bribe in the 1919 series. Many years ago he told the writer, 'Someday before I die, I hope to prove my innocence."
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1954-01-03Ruether, DutchRedsLevy, SamMilwaukee Journal59Baseball's Darkest HourAfter death of detective Cal Crim, Milwaukee Journal's Sam Levy reminisces about Black Sox Scandal. He says of Ruether: "Years later, when he was employed by Bill Veeck as a scout for the Milwaukee Brewers, Ruether said, 'I never want to be reminded about that world series victory. I never thought much of it after I learned of the Black Sox Scandal."
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1954-10-01Weaver, BuckBlack SoxFarrell, James T.My Baseball DiaryBuck Weaver's Last Interview“In the fall of 1954” (no date given), Weaver visited Farrell at the Morrison Hotel in Chicago and talked extensively about the scandal and about his career. “A murderer even serves his sentence and his let out. I got life.” Weaver goes on to talk about his previous appeals to Judge Landis: “Landis wanted me to tell him something that I didn't know. I can't accuse you and it comes back on you and I am … a goof. That makes no sense. I had no evidence.” … “All I can say is the only thing we got left in the world is our judges and our jurors. I was acquitted in court.” This interview was published as a chapter in Farrell's My Baseball Diary (1957).
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1955-06-21Schalk, RaySoxRoeder, Bill
New York World-Telegram and Sun
n/aAs cited in Brian Cooper's Ray Schalk: A Baseball Biography, Schalk was profiled by a NY paper a month before his Hall of Fame induction. “When the conversation came around to the 1919 World Series, Schalk said he knew nothing about the Black Sox plot and had no reason to suspect anything.”
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1956-09-14Cicotte, EddieBlack SoxChicago Tribune1'Black Sox' Blast Gandil 'Confession'Felsch, Cicotte respond to Chick Gandil's SI expose. Felsch: 'They're all wrong.' Cicotte: 'I took my medicine and I've forgotten about it.' Gandil is also quoted in the article: 'The story speaks for itself.'
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1956-09-14Felsch, HappyBlack SoxChicago Tribune1'Black Sox' Blast Gandil 'Confession'Felsch, Cicotte respond to Chick Gandil's SI expose. Felsch: 'They're all wrong.' Cicotte: 'I took my medicine and I've forgotten about it.' Gandil is also quoted in the article: 'The story speaks for itself.'
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1956-09-17Gandil, ChickBlack SoxDurslag, MelvinSports IllustratedThis Is My Story of the Black Sox SeriesGandil returns to the headlines with a long, first-person account of the Black Sox Scandal in Sports Illustrated. Probably the most famous of all the post-banishment interviews.
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1956-09-25Felsch, HappyBlack SoxPegler, WestbrookKingButte (MT) Standard10Onus of Bad Series Finally Made Happy Felsch Sell His BusinessIn part 3 of 5-part series, Pegler visits 65-year-old Felsch in Milwaukee: “We all get old and I don't mind except the reputation they gave us.” Felsch said he gave up his tavern because he “had so much trouble with argumentative drinkers about the 1919 Series.” They talk about baseball's new craze, the slider. Felsch says Weaver got “a raw deal.” He also complains about never being paid for finishing second in 1920. “That was my money. I earned it and somebody else got it.”
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1956-09-26Risberg, SwedeBlack SoxPegler, WestbrookKingButte (MT) Standard11Swede Risberg Prospers But He Also Suffered; Son a ProspectIn part 4 of 5-part series, Pegler visits 62-year-old Risberg at his tavern in northern California. They mostly talk baseball, about infield shifts (“It seems to me that is the place to sneak a single back of third”) and the slider (“I would like to see Eddie Cicotte against those fellows.”) Also talk about Swede's son, Nicky (cq: Mickey), a “pretty good first baseman” for Chico State College.
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1956-09-28Cicotte, EddieBlack SoxPegler, WestbrookKingKansas City Star34Control, a Little Riser, Were Cicotte's SecretsIn part 2 of syndicated 5-part series, Pegler visits Cicotte at his home in Detroit. Cicotte: “We done wrong and we deserved to get punished. But not a life sentence. That was too rough. I could have earned a living coaching later but they wouldn't let me.”
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1959-09-13Murphy, EddieSoxFeldman, ChicThe Scrantonian (PA)n/a“We might have started the dynasty that was the (New York) Yankees’ good fortune,” Murphy said. “But our best players … sold their honor and souls to the gamblers and a pennant purgatory came upon the White Sox.” ... Murphy claimed that Kid Gleason held a team meeting after Game 3 and challenged the players to win the Series. According to Murphy, Gleason said, “I hear $100,000 is to change hands if we lose.” ... Murphy also talked about rumors that Sox were throwing games in 1920: “We knew something was wrong for a long time, but we felt we had to keep silent because we were fighting for a pennant. We went along and gritted our teeth and played ball. It was tough.”
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1959-10-04Kerr, DickeySoxConsidine, BobHearstOmaha (NE) World-Herald6FBlack Sox of 1919—It Couldn't Happen NowIn syndicated Hearst column, Kerr says, “These days there's so much money around in baseball nobody has to steal.” … Also perpetuates myth that they “went to their graves with their heads hung. … None of them ever wanted to talk about it.”
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1961-xx-xxFaber, RedSoxAsinof, EliotEight Men OutDuring his research for Eight Men Out, Asinof visits Faber in Chicago. Later, in Bleeding Between the Lines, Asinof quotes Faber as saying, ““It’s tough to talk about it. I see some of the boys—like Schalk, for instance—and though he was as straight as an arrow, he won’t even mention the Series. They were scared, I guess. Scared of the gamblers.”
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1961-xx-xxFelsch, HappyBlack SoxAsinof, EliotEight Men OutDuring his research for Eight Men Out, Asinof visits Felsch at his home in Milwaukee. He loosens up the old ballplayer by bringing a bottle of Scotch. Asinof notes “[He] wants to think of himself as a victim.” Says Felsch regrets getting kicked out of baseball the year they souped up the ball; “thinks he could've hit 40 homers.”
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1961-09-17Ruether, DutchRedsUPIPasadena (CA) Star-NewsA3Red-Hot Dutch Recalls a Very 'Black' SeriesLike his ex-teammates, Ruether claims the Reds won the 1919 WS fair and square. “We'd have beaten 'em anyway. … We had too much pitching depth for Chicago.”
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1961-10-07Neale, GreasyRedsGrayson, HarryNEA
Ogden (UT) Standard-Examiner
6Neale Says Black Sox Series Wasn't FixedGrayson catches up with Greasy Neale (possibly after a Cardinals-Giants football game in New York) and talks about 1919 Series. Neale claims the Series was on the level “with the exception of the first game.” … Neale says “we had a corking outfit in 1919 … the finest pitching staff I ever saw. It's a shame the Reds of 1919 were not given the credit they so richly deserved.”
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1962-01-24Neale, GreasyRedsSmith, RedNYHTWarren County (PA) Observer26Views of SportRed Smith column on Neale's career includes a mention of his baseball days. “He was Cincinnati's leading hitter in the Series and he still refuses to believe the White Sox dumped it.”
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1962-05-13Jenkins, JoeSoxMeehan, TomFresno (CA) Bee19-5Hanford's Jenkins, Black Sox Innocent, Talks of One Big Smirch On BaseballWhite Sox third-string catcher Jenkins, now 73, “remembers the Series well.” He says it was obvious “something was up. … We thought things were funny in that first game in Cincinnati.” Gets some details wrong (“Williams walked 10 in one game.”) Says he roomed with Gandil during the Series and “he was betting heavily on the Series. I didn't think much of it as we used to get good odds and bet all the time.”
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1962-06-17Roush, EddRedsMcHugh, Roy
Evansville (IN) Courier and Press
C2Black Sox Gave It Their All After First Game: RoushRoush's hometown of Oakland City throws him a parade a month before his HOF induction. (Rube Bressler emcees the ceremony.) In a sidebar, Roush maintains that “it didn't look to me like they were throwing it.” He also tells the Jimmy Widmore story. A friend (“I won't tell you his name; he's still alive”) had the room next to Eddie Cicotte and said they “called it off” after not receiving their money after Game 1. “That same fella,” Roush said, “called me over to the curb after the seventh game and said, 'The gamblers got some of the players on your own club.'” He said Eller admitted he had been approached by a gambler and offered $5,000. Eller said, 'I said if he didn't get out of my sight I'd hit him on the end of the nose.”
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1963-05-18Kerr, DickeySoxCoppage, JoeThe Sporting News19Kerr Won Fame as Honest Hero of Black SoxTSN obituary of Kerr includes extensive interview conducted weeks before his death. He recounted his entire career, including 1919 WS (“the gamblers didn't come to me … I would have been in the front office in nothing flat.”)
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1964-02-05Schalk, RaySoxAPWashington PostD2Faber Might Have Saved Black SoxAfter Red Faber is notified of his own HOF election, he recalls “the Cracker,” who had reportedly said at his Hall of Fame induction in 1955: “If Red Faber had been able to pitch in the 1919 World Series, I'm sure there would have been no such thing as the Black Sox Scandal.”
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1964-04-19Roush, EddRedsSchrader, Bill
Evansville (IN) Courier and Press
C6Baseball Was Warmup For Roush's CareerRoush is profiled two years after making the Hall of Fame. Of 1919 Series, he says “I learned about the fix the night after the first game. I was out taking a walk and a man I knew stopped me and asked if I knew the White Sox were throwing the Series. He said he had a room in the hotel next to Eddie Cicotte and had overheard a meeting that night of the players involved.” … Roush added, “I think Cincinnati was the better club anyway. We had a great pitching staff.”
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1965-04-04Roush, EddRedsChamblin, Tony
Evansville (IN) Courier and Press
C2Roush Hits GameChamblin catches up with Roush at spring training in Bradenton. Roush complains about the modern game and repeats his story about the 1919 fix. “After we won the first two games, a friend of mine who knew the gamblers told me the White Sox had sold out. I just thought it was another wild rumor.” … He also talked about Hod Eller: “I got mad as hell. I went to Pat Moran and told him before the eighth game, and he called our starting pitcher into his office. Eller admitted he had been offered $5,000 to throw the game but he said he told the gambler he'd kill the SOB if he ever saw him again.”
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1965-12-04Cicotte, EddieBlack SoxFalls, JoeDetroit Free PressEddie Cicotte – at 81, He's Proud of Life He's Led; Family is, TooNotes taken from reprint of article in The Sporting News on Dec. 6: Joe Falls visits Cicotte at his home near Detroit. Cicotte: “I admit I did wrong, but I've paid for it for the past 45 years. … I've tried to make up for it by living as clean a life as I could.” As he's leaving, Falls notices the color of Cicotte's socks: They were white.
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1966-xx-xxBressler, RubeRedsRitter, LawrenceThe Glory of Their TimesBressler mentions little about 1919 Series in the published Ritter interview, but offers effusive praise for teammates Edd Roush and Jake Daubert.
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1966-xx-xxGroh, HeinieRedsRitter, LawrenceThe Glory of Their TimesGroh and teammate Edd Roush were interviewed for Larry Ritter's seminal work, The Glory of Their Times. Groh: “I still don't see why the White Sox were supposed to be such favorites to beat us. … I know how good Jackson and Felsch were in the outfield, but they weren't any better than Eddie Roush. … Maybe the White Sox did throw it. I don't know. I didn't see anything that looked suspicious. I think we'd have beaten them either way; that's what I thought then and I still think so today.”
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