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#asechat 09/09/13 If you and your students could work on any science project, what would it be?
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3.77145E+17cleverfiend9/9/13 19:02It was close - #ASEchat tonight will be "If you and your students could work on any science project, what would it be?"
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3.77145E+17AJCann9/9/13 19:02RT @Society_Biology: Lost opportunity in A-level review http://t.co/hgVWgwDvxw #alevels #education #edchat #asechat http://ow.ly/oHxtZ
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3.77145E+17DrBiol9/9/13 19:03RT @cleverfiend: It was close - #ASEchat tonight will be "If you and your students could work on any science project, what would it be?"
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3.77146E+17racheleppy9/9/13 19:05I'd love to go back! RT @theASE: @CERN open days! What an amazing opportunity for a science trip 28-29 Sept #ASEchat http://t.co/5HTOdf26tI" http://opendays2013.web.cern.ch
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3.77146E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:05@cleverfiend It would be linked to OPAL type activities #ASEChat
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3.77146E+17cleverfiend9/9/13 19:05#ASEchat - my ideal project is less about the end result and more about the process. Open ended and student led (as much as possible anyway)
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3.77146E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:06@cleverfiend something in the school grounds where children contribute data to a genuine survey or investigation #ASEChat
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3.77146E+17DrBiol9/9/13 19:06When I was teaching on the enrichment course @ScienceVoice 2 of the participants were building a trebuchet, I'd love to do that! #asechat
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3.77146E+17Mr_D_Cheng9/9/13 19:07#ASEChat I'd love to get down to food tech and do something the kids can experience with all their senses
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3.77146E+17cleverfiend9/9/13 19:07@Mr_D_Cheng sounds like there is a Heston inside you trying to get out! :) #asechat
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3.77146E+17racheleppy9/9/13 19:07@ViciaScience @cleverfiend What are 'OPAL?' #asechat
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3.77147E+17DrBiol9/9/13 19:08@ViciaScience @cleverfiend there's been an @OPALnature tree health survey chat today, #askOPAL with great info #asechat
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3.77147E+17Mr_D_Cheng9/9/13 19:08@cleverfiend a bit. I also like the idea of linking science lessons to real life. #ASEchat
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3.77147E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:09@racheleppy @cleverfiend OPAL is a project linked to OU for 'citizen science' http://t.co/DKD4hE3Doo #ASEChat http://www.opalexplorenature.org/
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3.77147E+17Mr_D_Cheng9/9/13 19:09#ASEChat if I worked in a sixth form I'd also love to make some wine/beer/cider
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3.77147E+17cleverfiend9/9/13 19:10@Mr_D_Cheng but isn't science all ultimately about real life? :) #asechat I know what you mean though :)
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3.77147E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:10@DrBiol @cleverfiend @OPALnature we did tree survey in Scotland and sent in our data - hope it helped - ash die back #ASEChat
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3.77147E+17gregtheseal9/9/13 19:10#asechat i would like to do a full biodiversity survey of the school site
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3.77147E+17Mr_D_Cheng9/9/13 19:10#ASEChat making sourdough and experimenting with quantities and times using flavour or texture as a judge
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3.77147E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:11@Mr_D_Cheng @cleverfiend in old days we would make yogurt then add different colourings and do a 'taste' survey. #ASEChat
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3.77148E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:12@Mr_D_Cheng again, this was part of our Y8 microbiology course. Never sure why fermentation frowned on but not org. chem #ASEChat
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3.77148E+17DrBiol9/9/13 19:13@gregtheseal my favourite activity! You could do many @OPALnature surveys and combine results. #asechat
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3.77148E+17gregtheseal9/9/13 19:13@ViciaScience @Mr_D_Cheng @cleverfiend #ASEChat we made yoghurt last few years with OCR Nats. Most in edible and only for the brave
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3.77148E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:14@gregtheseal I know a man (Mark Smith) who is doing that and plotting positions with GIS to map against variables #ASEChat
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3.77148E+17racheleppy9/9/13 19:14@Mr_D_Cheng And something distilled?! #asechat
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3.77148E+17Mr_D_Cheng9/9/13 19:14@cleverfiend good call! Maybe a GBBO lesson? #asechat
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3.77148E+17cleverfiend9/9/13 19:14@MixItNFixItMan that's a good point - should we be looking to redress the balance between KS3/KS4 to fit things like this in? #asechat
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3.77148E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:14@Mr_D_Cheng Sourdough project - excellent idea #ASEChat
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3.77148E+17DrBiol9/9/13 19:14@gregtheseal and use @FieldtripGB to design a custom form and record your findings. #asechat
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3.77148E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:15@JocelynWish Yes! homemade red wine? Tried ginger beer #ASEChat
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3.77148E+17cleverfiend9/9/13 19:16@ViciaScience @JocelynWish why stop with wine - distillation is part of the science curriculum too! #asechat
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3.77149E+17gregtheseal9/9/13 19:17@DrBiol @OPALnature #asechat I like that idea!
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3.77149E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:17Anyone considering getting to grips with large scale projects like Bloodhound ssc? http://t.co/uwvPZ1CR6q #ASEChat http://www.bloodhoundssc.com/
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3.77149E+17Mr_D_Cheng9/9/13 19:18#ASEChat I can't stop thinking about food type projects now. Capascin measurement?
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3.77149E+17gregtheseal9/9/13 19:18@ViciaScience #asechat be nice to combine with ispot and other apps
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3.77149E+17TeacherChemist9/9/13 19:19@ViciaScience Bloodhound a big thing at my son's school. They also have built there own Caterham 7 - great school projects both #asechat
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3.77149E+17JocelynWish9/9/13 19:19Interesting at #ASEchat tonight, science teachers clearly want opps for authentic practical/project work
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3.77149E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:19@Mr_D_Cheng Like it - devise a measurement scale. @DrBiol is competing against others to breed the hottest chilli #ASEChat
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3.7715E+17gregtheseal9/9/13 19:20#ASEChat also I would like to investigate the best way to remove goldfish from a large pond. Natural picicide?
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3.7715E+17cleverfiend9/9/13 19:20@JocelynWish with the time available at KS3 is there a good reason we don't do more of these projects? #asechat teacher confidence? etc
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3.7715E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:20@gregtheseal agreed. I would like easier access to mobile identification keys, e.g. bumble bees where national survey v useful #ASEChat
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3.7715E+17DrBiol9/9/13 19:21How about growing chillie plants and testing strength? Lots of cross curricular links. #asechat
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3.7715E+17MixItNFixItMan9/9/13 19:21@gregtheseal: #ASEChat also I would like to investigate the best way to remove goldfish from a large pond. Natural picicide? Lemna too!
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3.7715E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:21@TeacherChemist Agreed - is it a boys school? #ASEChat
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3.7715E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:21@gregtheseal grenade #ASEChat
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3.7715E+17MixItNFixItMan9/9/13 19:22@DrBiol: How about growing chillie plants and testing strength? Lots of cross curricular links. #asechat love this idea!!
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3.7715E+17TeacherChemist9/9/13 19:22@ViciaScience Yes - was it that obvious? #asechat
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3.7715E+17JulieBrown019/9/13 19:22Lots of great projects can be done as part of the @CRESTAwards scheme including our #STEM challenges http://t.co/QuuurqTO6M #asechat http://www.practicalaction.org/stem
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3.7715E+17DrBiol9/9/13 19:23@TeacherChemist @ViciaScience very cool! #ASEChat
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3.7715E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:23@JocelynWish @gregtheseal Used wildkey a while back on mobile phones. Wilddata good but keys too expensive to make for tablets? #ASEChat
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3.77151E+17gregtheseal9/9/13 19:24@JocelynWish @ViciaScience #asechat I saw it a few years ago at the aseconf but it was hardware only. Has it changed to apple or android?
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3.77151E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:25Does anyone do astronomy projects or ESERO related activities? #ASEChat
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3.77151E+17mrgpg9/9/13 19:25@mixitnfixitman How you going to test the strength? Subjective or quantitative in some way? #asechat >> great idea though.
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3.77151E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:26@mrgpg @mixitnfixitman Dry chillis, grind to powder (pepper) dilute with breadcrumbs to 'safe' level then taste test?? #ASEChat
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3.77151E+17DrBiol9/9/13 19:27@ViciaScience @gregtheseal one monster app for all plants & animals would be amazing but I find combing a few select ones works #asechat
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3.77151E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:27@JocelynWish @gregtheseal Thanks Jocelyn, will try out tomorrow #ASEChat
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3.77152E+17cleverfiend9/9/13 19:28@mrgpg @mixitnfixitman there are several measures for capsaicin? That's how they rank them - or just let Y9 taste them raw! #asechat
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3.77152E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:28@DrBiol @gregtheseal Tough problem though as discovered a week or two back when trying to identify micro moth #ASEChat
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3.77152E+17mrgpg9/9/13 19:28I got sponsorship from Superglue to test the best "de-bonding" agent. Turns out acetone and tomato juice equal first place. #asechat
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3.77152E+17gregtheseal9/9/13 19:29@DrBiol @ViciaScience #asechat do you know some good ID apps? Spiders? Molluscs? Grasses?
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3.77152E+17Mr_D_Cheng9/9/13 19:29@mrgpg which cereal and milk combination makes the best glue? #ASEchat
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3.77152E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:29@gregtheseal @DrBiol FSC apps worth a look but ££ #ASEChat
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3.77152E+17DrBiol9/9/13 19:30@ViciaScience @mrgpg @MixItNFixItMan also, is size of plant related to number of chillies? #asechat
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3.77152E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:30Strange how most of projects discussed so far have a biological feel. #ASEChat
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3.77152E+17mrgpg9/9/13 19:30Do 8 out of 10 cats prefer Whiskers? #asechat
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3.77152E+17kohlmand9/9/13 19:31Get inspiration and add your ideas: ICT to engage students http://t.co/19eeEuFo2v #ukedchat #sltchat #teachers #ASEchat http://padlet.com/wall/m18go1oap
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3.77152E+17mrgpg9/9/13 19:32Are expensive batteries better than own brand cheap ones? #asechat >> Physics one for you....
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3.77153E+17cleverfiend9/9/13 19:32@mrgpg do empty vessels make the most noise? :) #asechat
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3.77153E+17DrBiol9/9/13 19:32@ViciaScience @gregtheseal some of the FSC apps are free. Planning to make a list for new website/blog this term #ASEchat
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3.77153E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:33would anyone be interested in leg scale project to monitor local weather and share simultaneous data with schools in other regions? #ASEChat
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3.77153E+17MixItNFixItMan9/9/13 19:33@DrBiol @ViciaScience did similar with cinnabar moth caterpillar vs size ragwort plant on field trip. Lucky to have flexibility #asechat
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3.77153E+17Mr_D_Cheng9/9/13 19:33@mrgpg testing advertising claims - Love it! #ASEchat
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3.77153E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:34@DrBiol @gregtheseal eg ladybirds FSC was free when I downloaded it #ASEChat
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3.77153E+17mrgpg9/9/13 19:35@cleverfiend oih!! Depends how hard you blow... #asechat
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3.77153E+17Mr_D_Cheng9/9/13 19:35#ASEChat making the front cover of physics for you?
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3.77153E+17cleverfiend9/9/13 19:35@Mr_D_Cheng so we have lots of ideas for projects but what purpose do they serve? Making better scientists? Skills? Engagement? #asechat
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3.77154E+17mrgpg9/9/13 19:36@mr_d_cheng Regular one for me: Coke, Pepsi or OwnBrand.... Fat coke normally wins, followed by Pepsi Max - go figure. #asechat
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3.77154E+17cleverfiend9/9/13 19:37How about mythbusters style investigations? I fancy doing some of those with my students :) #asechat
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3.77154E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:37@cleverfiend @Mr_D_Cheng An element of childhood is missing from schools at moment - play. This is justification enough #ASEChat
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3.77154E+17mrgpg9/9/13 19:37Rolls out my usual "we have to differentiate between practical skills and experimentation" rant at this point. #asechat
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3.77154E+17Mr_D_Cheng9/9/13 19:38#asechat but you are right @cleverfiend for any of these - what is the learning!
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3.77154E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:38he he RT @mrgpg: Rolls out my usual "we have to differentiate between practical skills and experimentation" rant at this point. #asechat
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3.77154E+17JocelynWish9/9/13 19:39@Mr_D_Cheng #ASEChat IoP have advertised public engagement grants, £1.5k available for a physics project say run by teachers outside school
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3.77154E+17NeedhamL569/9/13 19:39@cleverfiend @Mr_D_Cheng evening, a project develops resilience, and thinking in larger chunks, not bite size #asechat
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3.77154E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:39@Mr_D_Cheng @cleverfiend Could justify on basis of acquiring manipulative skills alone-add in planning, controlling risk etc Winner #ASEChat
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3.77155E+17mrgpg9/9/13 19:41Wife bought me this for Christmas http://t.co/Fege7IMV5g > Never a truer word in Science #asechat http://ow.ly/oI6hf
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3.77155E+17JulieBrown019/9/13 19:41@cleverfiend i agree projects should be something students really want to do because they are curious and excited about science #ASEchat
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3.77155E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:43@JulieBrown01 @cleverfiend In curriculum time or as an after school activity? #ASEChat
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3.77156E+17gregtheseal9/9/13 19:44@JulieBrown01 @cleverfiend #asechat Down the Rabbit Hole: An Exploration of Student Grit, Motivation & Scientific Inquiry by Daisy Sharrock
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3.77156E+17gregtheseal9/9/13 19:45@JulieBrown01 @cleverfiend #asechat an interesting read and good insight into student led projects
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3.77156E+17mrgpg9/9/13 19:45During my PGCE we looked at "Do birds poo on blue cars" more than other colours. Remember @JocelynWish? #asechat
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3.77156E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:46@gregtheseal @JulieBrown01 @cleverfiend and not too expensive #ASEChat http://t.co/RN7UqlDWCl http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&field-author=Daisy%20Sharrock&page=1&rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3ADaisy%20Sharrock#
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3.77156E+17JocelynWish9/9/13 19:47@mrgpg Still the only research project I ran that went global within a week :-) #ASEchat
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3.77157E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:48@mrgpg @JocelynWish answer? sounds like some of Wellcome's Darwin activities #ASEChat
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3.77157E+17thelittlepot9/9/13 19:48Have others used the air survey and lichen with their students? I like the idea, possibly when learning about classification. #ASEchat...
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3.77157E+17JulieBrown019/9/13 19:49@ViciaScience @cleverfiend ideally both ...in practice only likely in lessons if project fits curr if not then in #stem clubs #asechat
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3.77157E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:49@thelittlepot there is a pack from OPAL on lichens in orchards which is simple to use #ASEChat
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3.77157E+17mrgpg9/9/13 19:50@viciascience @JocelynWish If I remember correctly navy and dark cars got hit the least based on 2000+ cars surveyed. #asechat
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3.77157E+17ViciaScience9/9/13 19:51@JulieBrown01 @cleverfiend That feels like a lost opportunity to inspire those chldren that would not attend 'clubs' #ASEChat
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