Responses for "Sonnet 130"
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TimestampChoose your classYour HouseYour name1. Who is the speaker of the poem? 2. Who is the audience for the poem? 4. Use line numbers to indicate the poem's major thought divisions.5. "Sonnet 130" contains a simile and several metaphors, but they are not used to describe the speaker’s mistress. Rather, each description undermines the comparison. List these undermined comparisons by filling in the following gaps: “the mistress' eyes do not shine like the sun, her lips…, her skin…, her hair…, her cheeks…, her breath…, her speech…, and her gait is not a glide."6. "Sonnet 130" is a blason (a type of poetry that compares a woman’s attributes to precious or beautiful things). Still: compare the descriptions of the “mistress” in "Sonnet 130" to the over-the-top praise of the beloved in “My Lady’s Presence Makes the Roses Red” and “Her Face.” In what way is Shakespeare’s speaker responding to this type of extravagant love poetry?8a. What is the tone of the poem? 8b. From what key words or phrases did you deduce the poem's tone?9. The final rhyming couplet contains the sonnet’s volta (a turn in thought often indicated by such words as “But,” “Yet,” or “And yet”). How do these last two lines change the poem’s tone, and its sense of intimacy? How are they a further criticism of hyperbolic love poetry?10. "Sonnet 130" gets its name from the fact that Shakespeare wrote 129 sonnets before it (and 24 after), all of them in iambic pentameter (five beats) and rhyming ABABCDCDEFEFGG. Sonnets 127-54 concern a woman who has come to be known as “the dark lady.” If the “dark lady” was a real person, do you think Shakespeare intended her to read this sonnet? Why or why not? 11. Based on all the above, what is poem's central viewpoint or insight about Love?
PINK= You got itBLUE= Message from Dr. XRED= Nope
9/22/2014 0:35:175812 (5:45)DickinsonUnknownThe readerThe punctuation shows the thoughts to be


11 (the shortest line of the poem)
her lips are not red or even coral,
her skin is an ugly color,
her hair is frizzy(?),
her cheeks are colorless,
her breath stinks,
her speech is not pleasant to the speaker,
and her gait is not a glide
I think Shakespeare was trying to illustrate the reality of love and a relationship. It seems like a sarcastic, somewhat comedic rebellion against the other poems comparisons to the sun, colors, flowers, etc.happy/ecstatic/joyful, thoughtful/contemplative, sincere/honest, ironic"And yet, by heaven, I think my love as rare as any she belied with false compare"The last two lines make it clear that he was not criticizing her in the preceding lines. It changes the tone to one of realistic adoration and honesty, which is one of the most intimate ways to express one's self. They are a criticism of hyperbolic love poetry because he is implying that exaggerated comparisons are not necessary for proclaiming your love for someone. Or maybe that if you need to exaggerate you might not really be adoring the person for who she really is.I think it was intended for her to read if those poems concern no other females. Especially, since he clearly accepts her for all of her flaws in Sonnet 130 it wouldn't surprise me if he was in love with a "dark lady".If love is true, you must accept all characteristics of the other person, good or bad.
9/27/2017 22:50:23(2:15)Shakespeare Franklyn CollWilliam ShakespeareThe reader, For everyone/audience In line 9 the speaker puts himself into the equation by stating how he feels compared to lines 1-8 which focused more on negative or dull comparisons about his mistress. In line 13 he sumps up his comparisons by stating how he truly feels about her, he loves his mistress just the way she is without having to exaggerate her appereance as others may do when writing love poems. He emphasizes her simple beauty by stating her true features as if saying "yes, she's like this" but my "love is rare" and as powerful as if it was a divine match meant to be or as if swearing "by heaven" that he truly loves her looks just as profound as someone who compares beauty to to what they consider beautiful things. Her lips are not as red as coral, her skin is dun colored, her hair be wires, her cheeks not colorful like roses, her breath reeks, her speech noisy, That just because he did not compare his mistress with beautiful comparisons or just because she may not have some features that many will find very beautiful it doesn't mean she's not beautiful or loved, or that he's not as in love with her as is the speaker of "My lady's Presence Makes the Roses Red". With this poem Shakespeare enforces the meaning of the saying "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".worshipful/reverent/adoring, affectionate/loving/caring, defiant/resistant, sincere/honest, ironicThe tone is highlighted in line 9, 13, and 14 because he expresses his true feelings which are positive and affectionate. Because after not really saying anything that seems positive or giving the impression that her features are ugly or plain he finally concludes with his true feelings which is that he loves who she is and what she looks like. It emphasizes that just because her features can't be compared to what others find beautiful, whether literally or figuratively, it doesn't mean that she's not just as beautiful in her own right, or that she's in any way hideous. I would definitely say yes! He intended for her to read it because of his heartfelt and intimate expressions of love and appreciation; but only Shakespeare and the dark lady know who she really is, so that even if others read it, they will not know her identity, but she will still benefit from his words and feelings. It's a way for him to express himself publicly as a writer while protecting the "Dark Lady's" privacy. It's like the saying goes, he's "feeds no two birds with one loaf", feeding his passion for writing and his passion for his "dark lady".That love, passion, and a relationship are real; a relationship/love is grounded in reality, simple but concrete, and deep but not always picture perfect.
9/28/2017 17:07:03(5:45)shakespearehouseRicky Ristic shakespears buddy The reader, A male, maybe a joke 1.My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun; coral is far more red than her
lips red; 2. If snow be white, why then her breast are dun; if hairs be wires
,black wires grow on her head. 3. I have seen roses damask'd red and white , but no such roses see I in her cheek; 4. And in some perfumes is there more delight, than in the breath that from my mistress reeks. 5. I love to hear her speak, yet well I know that music hath a far more pleasing sound; I grant I never saw a goddess go; my mistress when she walks, treads on the ground: and yet, by heaven, I think my love as rare as she belied with false compare
the mistress' eyes do not shine like the sun
, the coral is far more redder then her lips ;
' the snow is white, yet her skin is dull brown;
, I have seen many color roses, but none in her cheeks;
; perfumes scents are more delightful then the unpleasant breath of my mistress;
; I love her tone ; yet music is much more appealing;
I've never seen a goddess prance; yet my mistress wallows ;
; and for heavens sake, my mistress is just as amazing as any women with false comparison ;
I would say the comparison has a little bit of irony. because

my lady presence makes the roses red because to see her lips is to blush for shame . You can tell here that there a strong feelings for the women.

Yet in sonnet 130 Shakespeare response is
My mistress eyes are nothing like the sun; or coral far more redder then her lips, yet my mistress when she walks treads on the ground however
by heaven I think my love is rare. The same strong feelings come out in both poems even do Shakespeare comes out talking low of the lady
passionate/ardent, ironicMy mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun, and yet by heaven I think my love as rare.shows the irony, the exaggerating how he really feels about the women. In
one sense Shakespeare speaker talks about how dull she is in sonnet 130,
Then reverses the tone by saying she's heaven sent, With the word Yet
its quite possible if all the sonnets are similar to this one. If others are worded differently then maybe not.That love isn't just about, a women's looks, or the way she presents herself, it does not matter if she takes care of her self or not, she can still
be a mans heaven, either way, or it could be that it was just a joke, Shakespeare and company poking some fun at a women.
9/30/2017 21:00:52(2:15)ShakespeareHua PiaoA maleThe reader, A female, A maleLine1 to 8 is one thought, and 9 to 14 is another thought.
The mistress' eyes do not shine like the sun, her lips are not red like coral, her skin is not white like snow, her hair is like black wires,her cheeks are not beautiful like roses , her breath does not smell good like perfume, her speech does not seems to be pleasing like music, and her gait is not a glide .Instead of using positive words, speaker uses a negative tone to describe mistress as a normal person, it is not hyperbolic like in the extravagant love poetry. He expresses honestly.affectionate/loving/caring, sincere/honest, matter-of-fact/bussinesslike, ironic"goddess","And yet, by heaven, I think my loves as rare","I love to hear her speak" "false compare"At first, it uses negative tone and does not praise his mistress in any way. And also, he describes it more realistic way to show what my mistress looks like. In the end, using "but","yet,"and yet" transits his tone to emphasize how he loves her even though she is not perfect.
by comparing with goddess and mistress how they walk, it satirizes hyperbolic love poetry.
I think Shakespeare intended the "dark lady" to read this sonnet because it tells that every woman should be loved in some way no matter who she is .It exposes speaker's true feeling of his love. love someone depends on who she is, not how she looks like. Men should look inside to find out inner values of woman as a normal person.
10/2/2017 22:14:17(2:15)ShakespearePaul HickeyA malePerhaps a response to all the grandiose poets and poems deifying their lovers, overtly. Not sure how to use line numbers, but here goes.
Lines 1-6 concern her physical appearance. It may sound at first that he is blatantly saying his mistress is ugly. However as you go on to read and finish the poem, you see that perhaps she is actually beautiful, at least as much as any other woman.
Lines 7-8, 9-10, 11-12 discuss how she smells, sounds and moves respectively. The author is very literal in how he compares his mistress. He says perfume smells better, music sounds better, and that she walks on the ground as a mere mortal as opposed to a goddess.
But in the last two lines 13-14, beginning with the words "and yet" the whole mood of the poem changes we get a feeling that the author's mistress is actually as beautiful as the other women to whom the poets are ascribing non-realistic attributes.
Her lips are not as red as corals, Her skin is not white like snow, her hair is is like black wire, Her cheeks do not resemble roses, Her breath is not sweet like perfume, Her speech does not sound like music. He is saying that it is futile to ascribe such inhuman characteristics to females. It also is not necessary that he do it, as his woman is at least as beautiful as all other women, if not more.sincere/honest, ironic, Ultimately, romantic."nothing like the sun"
"no such roses see I in her cheeks" "reeks"
"music hath a far more pleasing sound"
"and yet" / "love as rare" / "belied with false compare"
Until this point I thought he was putting her down and saying she's ugly (it reminded me of a song by Bob Dylan called "I'm in love with the ugliest girl in the world" inspired by this poem, methinks). With these two words "And yet" the whole poem changes to say that she is still nonetheless lovely. I think maybe she was a black girl. I think that he did intend for her to read it, to let her know that even though these caomparisons do not apply to her, she is still as lovely as all other women. Love and beauty are in the eye of the beholder.
10/3/2017 0:15:34(5:45)Shakespeare Moises Villela William ShakespeareThe reader, A maleLines 1-10 compare her mistress to something else.
Lines 11-14 state that his love for the mistress is special.
"...Her lips are not as red as coral, her skin is not white like snow, her hair is like black wires, her cheeks are not streaked like red roses, her breath does not smell like perfume, her speech is not as pleasing as music, and her gait is not a glide."Shakespeare responds to the poems in a way that juxtaposes his mistress with the other authors' lovers. worshipful/reverent/adoring, affectionate/loving/caring, sincere/honest, ironicIn lines 1-10 Shakespeare is honest about his mistress' flaws. Ironically in lines 11-14, despite her imperfections, that is what makes their love "rare". The last two lines demonstrate that he loves his mistress although she appears to be imperfect.I think Shakespeare did not intend for her to read it, but he would not have minded if she did because he emphasizes that his love for her is beyond her physical appearance.The poem suggests that Love and beauty are in the eye of the beholder. Love is not determined by how beautiful you are to others.
10/3/2017 8:04:02(5:45)flushinhqasim razaA femaleThe readerI'm not sure..happy/ecstatic/joyful....
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