#saass Transcript - April 9 2012
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lmendersbyGood morning #saass friends! Today's chat topic is Writing Effective Learning Outcomes. See you at 12pm EST! #sachat #sacdn
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laurapasquiniRT @lmendersby: Good morning #saass friends! Today's chat topic is Writing Effective Learning Outcomes. See you at 12pm EST! #sachat #sacdn
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MWyettDoes anyone have information gathered on student affairs hashtags and/or weekly chats hosted by different ones? #sachat #sapros #saass
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cindykaneRT @lmendersby: Good morning #saass friends! Today's chat topic is Writing Effective Learning Outcomes. See you at 12pm EST!
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AnnetteMartelRT @cindykane: RT @lmendersby: Good morning #saass friends! Today's chat topic is Writing Effective Learning Outcomes. See you at 12pm EST!
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judithasuzuTrying to Find a Measure for How Well Colleges Do http://t.co/gydbE4FD (via @nytimes) #highered #saass #education #edchat #edpolicy
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gavinhenningDisappointed that I won't be on the #saass chat today at noon EDT. Should be an exciting conversation on writing effective outcomes.
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lmendersbyLess than 30 minutes until our #saass chat on Writing Effective Learning Outcomes. Participants will ... learn about learning outcomes?
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BryceEHughes@lmendersby Oh no! I'll be in the midst of commuting and will miss #saass! How will I ever recover? ;)
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lmendersbyHappy Monday! It's time for #saass chat! Today's topic? Writing Effective Learning Outcomes. Dust off that copy of Bloom's Taxonomy!
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lmendersbyFirst time participating in a Twitter chat? Read this: http://t.co/Lxizw0kQ. We're happy to have you here! #saass
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lmendersbyYou can also follow along with the chat at http://t.co/aG0pVsvd or http://t.co/XOHD6Km8. Let's get our chat on! #saass
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JoeBooksLevyJoe Levy - Assessment Consultant @CampusLabsCo; 3rd time participating, 1st time early enough to introduce myself :) #saass
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shawnbrackettHi y'all! I'm Shawn from Texas Tech. First time with my assessment friends (probably lurking today). #saass
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NotAnnieButAnneAnne Sweet #acadv at University of Central Arkansas. Really excited about today's topic! #saass
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adamcaslerHi #saass chatters, 1st time attendee here, looking forward to the conversation
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lmendersbyI'll be tweeting questions labelled by number (Q1, Q2,e tc). Don't forget to start your response with the question number! #saass
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rossmcmillanHi, Ross McMillan from York University in Canada. On a phone mtg as well so won't be able to participate very much #saass
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lmendersbyQ1: Let's start off easy. What exactly are learning outcomes? How do you explain what they are?
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JoeBooksLevyQ1: LOs are specific, measurable articulations of what u hope students will know, think, or do as a result of an intervention/program #saass
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lmendersbyMT @JoeBooksLevy: Q1: LOs r specific, measurable articulations of what u hope stdts will know, think or do as result of intervention #saass
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JoeBooksLevyQ1 (cont): LOs = student-focused & Program outcomes = program-focused. Important to know the difference; MANY people confuse them #saass
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NotAnnieButAnneWhat @JoeBrooksLevy and @AdlerKatherine said :) #saass
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lmendersbyHow do you explain the diff? MT @JoeBooksLevy: Q1: LOs = student-focused & Program outcomes = program-focused. Impt to know diff. #saass
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shawnbrackettQ1: I wonder if there are key differences btwn LOs and *desired* LOs (understanding that measurement tells us if learning happened). #saass
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AdlerKatherineQ1: also tend to think about outcomes as student "competencies" #saass
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lmendersbyQ2: We know the what, but how about the why? Why do we write learning outcomes? Why are they important? #saass
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lmendersbyThoughts? MT @shawnbrackett: Q1: I wonder if there are key differences btwn LOs and *desired* LOs #saass
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NotAnnieButAnneQ2: Outcomes help me to guide and refocus my efforts to make sure my work supports our goals. #saass
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AdlerKatherineQ2: I think that is covered in the learning activity. #saass
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JoeBooksLevyProgram will provide stu. w/ acad. resources (outcome is 4 program = PO). After program, stu. can identify acad. resources (LO) #saass
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lmendersbyTell me more! RT @AdlerKatherine: Q2: I think that is covered in the learning activity. #saass
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adamcaslerQ1: measurable, student-focused skills, knowledge etc that we want our students to possess by the end of the class/program/experience #saass
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shawnbrackettQ2: As higher education institutions, we exist to teach and learn. LOs help us understand and reflect on our practices. #saass
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lmendersbyMT @JoeBooksLevy: Prog will provide acad. resources (outcome is 4 program = PO). After prog, stu. can identify acad. resources (LO) #saass
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adamcaslerQ2: One answer is that we want to be able to demonstrate knowledge. The "practical" answer is LOs can be used for funding, (contd) #saass
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lmendersbyMT @shawnbrackett: Q2: As higher ed institutions, we exist to teach and learn. LOs help us understand and reflect on our practices. #saass
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JoeBooksLevyQ2: LOs should directly relate to dept outcomes/objectives, which should relate to divisional picture & so on. LOs clarify purpose #saass
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AdlerKatherineQ2: the activity should demonstrate the importance of the desired outcome/competency. Let's student know learning it is important. #saass
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adamcaslerQ2: LOs are also a reality for accreditation, as my inst. is discovering as we prep for Middle States review process #saass
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lmendersbyMT @AdlerKatherine: Q2: activity should demonstrate importance of desired outcome/competency. Lets stdt know learning it is impt. #saass
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JoeBooksLevy@shawnbrackett *desired* LOs should = ur LOs. Programs should be designed 2 deliver learning intended 4 students. If not, revisit LOs #saass
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lmendersbyQ3: When you read a learning outcome, what are you looking for? What information should be there & how much of it do you need? #saass
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JoeBooksLevyQ3: ABCD! Audience (who), Behavior (what is learned), Condition (how will they learn this), Degree (to what extent is it learned) #saass
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lmendersbyMT @JoeBooksLevy: Q3: ABCD! Audience (who), Behavior (what is learned), Condition (how will they learn), Degree (to what extent) #saass
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lmendersby@JoeBooksLevy That one's my favourite! I've been using it to explain learning outcomes to my colleagues here! #saass
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lmendersbyQ3 (Part 2): Do you use Bloom's Taxonomy to create learning outcomes? What words/vocabulary do you use to talk about learning? #saass
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adamcaslerQ3: should be aligned w/ objs, dept/inst. mission, clear action verb (Bloom's Taxonomy), & examine 1 spec. behavior/cognitive ability #saass
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lmendersbyMT @adamcasler: Q3: should be aligned w/ objs, dept/inst. mission, clear action verb (Blooms Taxonomy), & examine 1 spec. behavior #saass
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lmendersbyQ4: Have you gotten any feedback on your learning outcomes? What are you doing well? What is still challenging? #saass
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adamcaslerQ4: Our SA div. has put together an assessment committee to review all depts obj's & SLOs Feedback to/from directors positive so far #saass
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lmendersby@adamcasler Who's on that assessment committee? Is it cross-campus or housed in student affairs? #saass
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lmendersby@JoeBooksLevy What does an 'unclear' learning outcome look like? #saass
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lmendersbyMT @adamcasler Mostly SA, but Dir of Inst. Effectiveness (Acad. Affairs) is member, w/ Dean of Students, member of Couns. Center & me #saass
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adamcasler@lmendersby all members have PhD (or in my case in progress) and experience with developing SLOs at previous institutions. #saass
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JoeBooksLevyVague about audience or condition; behavior is not specific/Bloom words (tip: do NOT use 'learn' or 'know' in LOs - too ambiguous!) #saass
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lmendersbyQ5: Who reads learning outcomes once they're written? Are they written differently depending on audience (e.g. students or staff)? #saass
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JoeBooksLevyLOs should also be measurable - if you don't know how you can measure your LO, either study up on methods OR revise your LOs #saass
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adamcaslerQ5: Read by anyone visiting dept/div. website. Wording doesn't change for audience, but clarification for diff. groups is common #saass
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adamcaslerQ5: we also are moving to clearly introduce SLOs in divisional trainings, programs, events, etc. Need to show students the WHY #saass
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leezerrillaQ5: I like to reread them...important to make sure language matches competencies of the group expected to fulfill the LO. #saass
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NotAnnieButAnneQ5: LOs on our advising syllabus, fairly accessible to all. I like one wording, but agree with @adamcasler on clarification. #saass
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lmendersbyMT @leezerrilla: Q5: I like to reread them...important 2 make sure language matches competencies of group expected to fulfill the LO. #saass
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JoeBooksLevyWord, @adamcasler! LOs should be transparent; doesn't hurt to share w/ studends so they can know what might be expected of them #saass
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lmendersbyMT @JoeBooksLevy: LOs should also be measurable - if u dont know how u can measure ur LO, either study up on methods OR revise ur LOs #saass
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adamcaslerHave to run, but thanks to everyone in the #saass chat for a good conversation. Looking forward to next week!
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lmendersbyMT @JoeBooksLevy: Word, @adamcasler! LOs should be transparent; doesnt hurt 2 share w/ stdts so they know what might be expected #saass
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lmendersbyTime for some final thoughts (FT). Share a favourite resource/example and/or give us your best tip for writing learning outcomes. #saass
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JoeBooksLevy@StefanDee yes, indeed! Blooms all day! Feel free to join the #saass chat - we're talking LOs today
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lmendersby@adamcasler Thanks for joining us Adam - you've shared some great ideas! Looking forward to seeing you back here next week! #saass
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lmendersby@JoeBooksLevy @StefanDee Echoing Joe's invitation! We'd love to have you join in! #saass
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leezerrilla@lmendersby I love the giant fridge-poetry LO verbs and words we have on our office wall for students to visualize and rearrange. #saass
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lmendersbyRT @leezerrilla: I love the giant fridge-poetry LO verbs & words we have on our office wall for students to visualize and rearrange. #saass
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JoeBooksLevyFT: Keep it simple (in LO wording, development, & # measured). Also, make sure LOs are connected to bigger picture (dept/div) #saass
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lmendersbyMT @JoeBooksLevy: FT: Keep it simple (wording, development & # measured). Also, make sure LOs r connected 2 bigger picture (dept/div) #saass
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NotAnnieButAnneFT: Really inspired to look at LOs vs POs. Shout out to the @NACADA clearinghouse for great resources #saass http://t.co/Fn4gb0PH
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lmendersbyRT @NotAnnieButAnne: FT: Really inspired to look at LOs vs POs. Shout out to the @NACADA clearinghouse for great resources #saass http://t.co/Fn4gb0PH
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lmendersbyThanks for another great chat today! Want to connect with other colleagues? Have an idea for me? Go here: http://t.co/JxX1adtT #saass
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lmendersbyHave a suggestion for a future topic? Want to learn more? Tweet or DM me! #saass
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lmendersbyWe'll see you again next week friends! Same bat time, same bat channel. Have an awesome day! #saass
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KateMcGKTrying to Find a Measure for How Well Colleges Do from @nytimes via @academicimpress http://t.co/KskV5DXo # #highered #sachat #saass
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SManzeskeSorry to have missed the #saass chat today. If transcripts are sent, I'll look forward to reading!
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