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Ron_Peck12/10/20123:59 PMWelcome to our chat today. Please introduce yourself. #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20123:59 PM@WSUSocStudies Are you doing standards based grading? :-) #sschat
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B_KOL12/10/20124:00 PMBrianne from Chicago. #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20124:00 PM@mseideman Hi Melissa! #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20124:00 PMHi #sschat this is Bill Chapman checking in from Berkeley, CA.
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mseideman12/10/20124:00 PMMelissa from Cold Spring NY #sschat
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khewett10212/10/20124:01 PM#sschat Hi! Kristen from NC. I teach US and Civics! Juggling work and chat but I hope to participate tonight.
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hsytchr12/10/20124:01 PM#sschat Nate Smith, SS Supervisor, Mobile, AL
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Ron_Peck12/10/20124:01 PMI'm your host for today and we'll be talking Standards Based Grading in a moment. I'm glad you all could make it. Even the lurkers. #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20124:01 PM@B_KOL Hello Brianne! #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20124:02 PM@stumpteacher Hi Josh, welcome! #sschat @Ron_Peck
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misssball12/10/20124:02 PM@Ron_Peck Brenda Ball from Vancouver Canada. I teach AP World, AP Euro, 20th Century and...Canadian History! #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20124:02 PM@burgessdave Welcome Dave! #sschat
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stumpteacher12/10/20124:02 PM@Ron_Peck Great topic tonight Ron...glad I could stop by for a bit. #sschat
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burgessdave12/10/20124:02 PMDave from San Diego, trying hard to watch the action tonight. #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20124:02 PM@khewett102 Hi Kristen! #sschat
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B_KOL12/10/20124:02 PM@classroomtools Hi Bill! #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20124:03 PM@runningdmc Hi Dawn! #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20124:03 PM@historyfriend Hi Molly! #sschat
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khewett10212/10/20124:03 PM#sschat Hi! Kristen from NC. I teach US and Civics. Juggling school work at the same time but I hope to be able to participate tonight!
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runningdmc12/10/20124:03 PMHi, #sschat. Dawn Casey-Rowe, RI.
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classroomtools12/10/20124:03 PM@misssball Welcome Brenda! #sschat @Ron_Peck
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historyfriend12/10/20124:03 PM#sschat Hello. Molly from Baltimore. Incredibly interested in this topic about which I know little. May be lurking a little more than usual.
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classroomtools12/10/20124:04 PM@allisonshaver Welcome Alison! #sschat
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allisonshaver12/10/20124:04 PMAllison from America's hometown - I'll be in and out tonight. #sschat
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drkorfhage12/10/20124:04 PMDavid from NJ. Not sure I can talk much, busy watching my son. But what's the topic? #sschat
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stumpteacher12/10/20124:05 PM@Ron_Peck I have been doing SBG in SS for about 3 years now. #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20124:05 PM@allisonshaver I'm sorry Allison, I left one of the ls out of your name. #sschat
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Ron_Peck12/10/20124:05 PMSo, to get us started tonight let's tackle this question: What are your experiences with Standards Based Grading? #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20124:05 PM@khewett102 Welcome Kristen! #sschat
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B_KOL12/10/20124:06 PMA1: Limited. Listened to teachers talk about SBG at an edcamp, but had trouble applying it to my own instruction. #sschat
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historyfriend12/10/20124:06 PM@Ron_Peck I would also love a brief def. of what it is. Not sure I have it straight. #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20124:06 PM@PaulSolarz Welcome Paul! #sschat
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PaulSolarz12/10/20124:06 PMHi everyone - I'm Paul from Arlington Heights, IL, listening in on #engchat and #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20124:07 PMThe only thing I know about SBG is what I read in the article @Becky_Ellis_ posted last night. #sschat http://t.co/yqXAby99
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mseideman12/10/20124:07 PMA1 my background is very limited but I am interested in learning more #sschat
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khewett10212/10/20124:07 PM#sschat I've been doing SBG for the last few years. This year our new standards are a bit broader than I'm used to.....
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Ron_Peck12/10/20124:07 PMThis year is our first year of full blown SBG and it is fairly structured by the district. #sschat
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EAGoldstein12/10/20124:08 PMBritish Museum site on Ancient #Egypt http://t.co/DFXzfGQ4 #sschat #histedchat Site for translating #Hieroglyphics http://t.co/yl43QI4j
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B_KOL12/10/20124:08 PM@classroomtools @Becky_Ellis_ Missed that link last night. Playing catch up now. #sschat
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hsytchr12/10/20124:08 PMHello all!!!! #sschat :-)
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Ron_Peck12/10/20124:08 PMA1: Each class has built assessments and assignments based on state standards in social studies. #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20124:09 PM@DWEllis98 Hi Dina, welcome! #sschat
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DWEllis9812/10/20124:09 PMHi all. Still waiting for the arrival of my lil man! But I'm here. Dina from NY #sschat
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Ron_Peck12/10/20124:09 PMA1: The standards themselves are very abstract and broad. No real content in them. So, we had to decide on what to teach. #sschat
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PaulSolarz12/10/20124:10 PMA1 - My exp. with Standards Based Grading is limited to what I've read/heard. I've made some assumptions & want to dis/prove them. #sschat
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mackiefloyd12/10/20124:10 PMA1: My school is going to SBG next year. We are in the process of deciding what those standards will look like. #sschat
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khewett10212/10/20124:10 PM@Ron_Peck our new standards are very broad too. Trying to work with others so we can come to a consensus together. #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20124:10 PMAfter reading that article, though, I found out that I'd been basically using SBG for the last 10 or 12 years I taught. #sschat
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historyfriend12/10/20124:10 PMHmm. Wondering how this applies to independent schools with no state standards. Would we need to define standards first? #sschat
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stumpteacher12/10/20124:11 PM@Ron_Peck For me the pro of SGB is that a Ss grade reflects learning. Only assessing what matters. #sschat
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runningdmc12/10/20124:11 PM@Ron_Peck That's the tough part because the standards give such freedom, that I thought we'd get away from curricular minute. #sschat
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stumpteacher12/10/20124:11 PMPretty much our entire SS department is on a SGB model. #sschat
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Ron_Peck12/10/20124:11 PMQ2: What do you see as the pros and cons of SBG? #sschat
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hsytchr12/10/20124:11 PMA1: Limited also... Just the literature #sschat
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drkorfhage12/10/20124:11 PMStephen Lazar has done some work with it: http://t.co/rTrV4gDu #sschat
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stumpteacher12/10/20124:12 PM@mackiefloyd You have 100 standards? #sschat
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mackiefloyd12/10/20124:12 PMStandards that are too specific also don’t work. Having 100 standards is not good for students, parents or teachers. #sschat
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khewett10212/10/20124:12 PM#sschat Pros: easy to identify strengths and weakness Cons: difficult if standards are too broad
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Ron_Peck12/10/20124:13 PM@stumpteacher I think my biggest issue is how a district approaches assessment and reassessment. Slippery slope. #sschat
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misssball12/10/20124:13 PM@historyfriend I work in an independent school and we essentially do this on a school-wide, department wide and grade level basis #sschat
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stlpresley12/10/20124:13 PMAmy from StL. A1: I'm with @PaulSolarz - not full SBG, but have been doing AFL. Seems SBG is the next step & want to learn more #sschat
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runningdmc12/10/20124:13 PM@khewett102 Am I getting this right--rubrics based on the skills in the tasks? #sschat
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PaulSolarz12/10/20124:14 PMA2 - I wonder if SBG will cause students to become more perfectionistic & rely on product more than process. Any thoughts?
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historyfriend12/10/20124:14 PMHow much subjectivity is involved in determining whether students have met standards? Variation between teachers? #sschat
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mackiefloyd12/10/20124:14 PM@stumpteacher thankfully no! But looking at some templates the info can be overwhelming if there is too much. Our plan is to have 4 #sschat
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khewett10212/10/20124:14 PM@mackiefloyd I agree that there needs to be middle ground on standards. #sschat
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toughLoveforx12/10/20124:15 PMThe Common Core State Standards---Wordled! http://t.co/2jLvI1ep So interesting… #ecosys #edchat #sschat
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PaulSolarz12/10/20124:15 PMA2 - I believe SBG will increase rigor with our students and force teachers to be more accurate with their assessments.
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stumpteacher12/10/20124:15 PM@mackiefloyd 4 standards? For what scope of content? #sschat
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khewett10212/10/20124:15 PM@runningdmc I'm certainly not an expert. In the past it was the specific skills & knowledge for that standard. #sschat
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historyfriend12/10/20124:15 PM@misssball So - did you work first to set those standards by department and course and then implement them. Any transition from old? #sschat
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stumpteacher12/10/20124:15 PM@Ron_Peck Slippery slope? What do you mean? #sschat
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Nia80812/10/20124:15 PM#sschat Pro: lets students know where they stand. Con: Paradigm shift...can take time to change minds/attitudes about grading
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Ron_Peck12/10/20124:16 PM@stumpteacher The only thing that matters is the test. 80% of grade is based on test scores on standards. Must pass all of them. #sschat
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mackiefloyd12/10/20124:16 PM@stumpteacher still in progress - we are thinking content knowledge, prim/sec source analysis, info writing and argument writing #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20124:16 PM@Ron_Peck What does a student need to do to pass a standard? #sschat
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stumpteacher12/10/20124:16 PM@hsytchr What do you want to know? #sschat
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hsytchr12/10/20124:16 PM@stumpteacher #sschat needs to give us some details :-)
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Ron_Peck12/10/20124:16 PMA2: Biggest concern right now is the emphasis on testing. Students have to pass every standard or they fail the course. #sschat
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Nia80812/10/20124:17 PM@PaulSolarz I've been transitioning to SBG for past 3 yrs. my students love 'knowing what they know/d-n know'. #sschat
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misssball12/10/20124:17 PM@historyfriend yes. We start w) historical thinking skills (we use 6 here, &also refer to AP World language around skills) then add #sschat
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stumpteacher12/10/20124:17 PM@Ron_Peck Well in my class 100% of grade is assessments. However I use projects, debates, etc. as the assessments. #sschat
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classroomtools12/10/20124:17 PM@Ron_Peck What do the tests look like? T/F, MC, essays, projects, ???? #sschat
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stlpresley12/10/20124:17 PM@PaulSolarz I think Ss learn the value of the process as it is practice for the performance event. #sschat
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Ron_Peck12/10/20124:17 PM@classroomtools They have to pass the assessment written by the subject curriculum team. #sschat
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stumpteacher12/10/20124:17 PM@Ron_Peck Ideal situation is to have standards be progressive through the grades...grade level system doesn't work. #sschat
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Ron_Peck12/10/20124:18 PM@stumpteacher Yes, trying to stick the SBG into the old Carnegie system. Not too great a fit. #sschat
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historyfriend12/10/20124:18 PMCan a student move backward if they forget how to do something or do it poorly later on? I worry that it seems a little too linear #sschat
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stumpteacher12/10/20124:19 PM@classroomtools @Ron_Peck My "tests" are a the spectrum of activities...can be paper pencil tests, projects, speeches, debates, etc. #sschat
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Ron_Peck12/10/20124:19 PM@stumpteacher We are now able to use projects, debates, etc. but students must still take written tests. #sschat
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drkorfhage12/10/20124:19 PMHow well do m.c. go with SBG? #sschat
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mackiefloyd12/10/20124:19 PMA2: Our standards are going to focus on skills more than content, I guess that is both a pro and a con #sschat
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ShawnMcCusker12/10/20124:19 PMSorry to be missing #sschat tonight due to a grad class. Pirate tweeting is not an option, teacher follows me. #seeyounextweek
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historyfriend12/10/20124:19 PM@misssball Would love to see a copy of what you have. Trying to move department in this direction and example would be great. #sschat
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EDSITEment12/10/20124:19 PMBoil it down to close reading of significant texts #sschat
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stlpresley12/10/20124:19 PM@classroomtools @Ron_Peck ...and do they get to retake a mirror version for mastery if they miss it the first go? #sschat
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Ron_Peck12/10/20124:19 PM@classroomtools Tests vary. Mostly short answer but some MC, matching and projects can be a part of it. #sschat
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askteacherzcom12/10/20124:20 PMRT @ShawnMcCusker: Sorry to be missing #sschat tonight due to a grad class. Pirate tweeting is not an option, teacher follows me. #see ...
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