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ShawnMcCusker11/26/20123:59 PMAre you prepared for the high speed hour of #engsschat ? #lightningquickPD
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TeamClaco11/26/20123:59 PMRT @ShawnMcCusker: Are you prepared for the high speed hour of #engsschat ? #lightningquickPD
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thereadingzone11/26/20123:59 PMRT @ShawnMcCusker: Are you prepared for the high speed hour of #engsschat ? #lightningquickPD #engsschat
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ChelseaDeHoux11/26/20124:00 PMMy name is chelsea and I'm from Kansas. I am in my Junior year in college. My major is secondary education in History #engsschat
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CTuckerEnglish11/26/20124:00 PMWelcome everyone to this discussion of the Common Core Standards Argumentative Writing. #engsschat
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cybraryman111/26/20124:00 PMWelcome! There will be 8 questions. Please use the hash tag #engsschat
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Jackhanford11/26/20124:00 PMHey everyone, Just turned 19, just graduated HS, now I work in #edtech.. fired up about #education too! #engsschat
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NaughtonBecky11/26/20124:00 PMRT @ShawnMcCusker: For those of you nw to our chat #sschat keeps their archives here--> The #sschat NING http://t.co/Ynhkd4OQ #engsschat
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ShawnMcCusker11/26/20124:00 PMRT @cybraryman1: Welcome! There will be 8 questions. Please use the hash tag #engsschat
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ShawnMcCusker11/26/20124:00 PMRT @CTuckerEnglish: Welcome everyone to this discussion of the Common Core Standards Argumentative Writing. #engsschat
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ShawnMcCusker11/26/20124:00 PMFor those of you nw to our chat #sschat keeps their archives here--> The #sschat NING http://t.co/Ynhkd4OQ #engsschat
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thereadingzone11/26/20124:00 PMSarah, 9th grade Humanities teacher- it's a co-teaching scenario where Ss are combined for World Lit and World History #engsschat
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42ThinkDeep11/26/20124:01 PMHello. My name is Michael Milton, a high school World History teacher and a mediocre fisherman. #engsschat
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CTuckerEnglish11/26/20124:01 PMQ: How do you define argument writing for Ss? #engsschat
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cybraryman111/26/20124:01 PMQ1 How can argument writing expose students to different perspectives? #engsschat
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cybraryman111/26/20124:01 PM@Jackhanford Don 't have time for intros #engsschat
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meenoorami11/26/20124:01 PM#engchat participants, we're joing #sschat tonight so please use and look for #engsschat tonight! Thanks!
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MegNev11/26/20124:01 PMPsyched for #engsschat !
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ShawnMcCusker11/26/20124:01 PM@shfarnsworth Hello friend- Welcome to #engsschat
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ShawnMcCusker11/26/20124:01 PMRT @CTuckerEnglish: Q: How do you define argument writing for Ss? #engsschat
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ShawnMcCusker11/26/20124:01 PM@ChelseaDeHoux Welcome to the chat Chelsea. #engsschat
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shfarnsworth11/26/20124:01 PM@cybraryman1 Hello from Iowa - 1:1 English Teacher #engsschat
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ChelseaDeHoux11/26/20124:02 PM@ShawnMcCusker thank you #engsschat
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cshirley311/26/20124:02 PMCameron, teacher-candidate from NC, majoring in social studies education. #engsschat #edu355
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EDSITEment11/26/20124:02 PM@42ThinkDeep Whatever position they take, there's a good argument against it #engsschat
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ElayneMonjar11/26/20124:02 PMRT @cybraryman1: Q1 How can argument writing (AW) expose students to different perspectives? #engsschat #edu355
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ElayneMonjar11/26/20124:02 PM@CTuckerEnglish I think most history papers that are not just intro to the content are AW #edu355 #engsschat
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Gryczewski11/26/20124:02 PMI'm Beth From DC. I teach Secondary History, but have my students write essays and persuasive essays often. #engsschat
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Jackhanford11/26/20124:02 PM@cshirley3 Welcome Cameron! #engsschat
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Jackhanford11/26/20124:02 PMRT @meenoorami: #engchat participants, we're joing #sschat tonight so please use and look for #engsschat tonight! Thanks!
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KtBkr411/26/20124:02 PMKate from NJ English. Hello #engsschat!
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meenoorami11/26/20124:02 PMRT @cybraryman1: Q1 How can argument writing expose students to different perspectives? #engsschat
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thereadingzone11/26/20124:02 PMArgument writing is when students are writing to convince the reader. #engsschat
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thomasson_engl11/26/20124:02 PM@CTuckerEnglish Like, how do I explain what it is? #engsschat
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42ThinkDeep11/26/20124:03 PMI think it's important to look at events from different viewpoints to identify potential bias. #engsschat
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ChelseaDeHoux11/26/20124:03 PMQ1: Using critical thinking and students can actually form their own opinion not someone elses #engsschat
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CTuckerEnglish11/26/20124:03 PM@thomasson_engl Yes, how do you explain the purpose of argument writing for your Ss or staff? #engsschat
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EDSITEment11/26/20124:03 PM#engsschat Students don't realize every argument has a counterargument. Teach them that
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ElayneMonjar11/26/20124:03 PM@CTuckerEnglish When you write about a specific topic in history & argue your point I think it makes it AW Greg #edu355 #engsschat
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Gryczewski11/26/20124:03 PMA1) Since ss have to understand the 'other side' then they are forced to know multiple perspectives in their writing. #engsschat
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Gryczewski11/26/20124:03 PMA1) I teach my ss that in order to write an effective persuasive piece, they must take into account the other side. #engsschat
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historyfriend11/26/20124:03 PM#engsschat A1 - Students need to consider the counter argument to what they are writing - address, not ignore other ideas.
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Jackhanford11/26/20124:03 PM@RozLinder Newbies are always welcome! #engsschat
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kconners0911/26/20124:03 PMHI all, Kay from Northern Va. Teach World Geo grade 8. Not sure I can stay but look forward to convo. #engsschat
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ktheodocion11/26/20124:03 PM#engsschat Kelley 8th grade language arts GA
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LindsayBBell11/26/20124:03 PM@thereadingzone I am a Senior SS-Ed major at Elon U, doing a proj on HS humanities -would love some resources! @cshirley3 #edu355 #engsschat
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MaryAnnReilly11/26/20124:03 PMA1. A key factor in argument is attention to counterarguments. This allows for perspectives to broaden. #engsschat
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MegNev11/26/20124:03 PMMegan in Cleveland. I teach senior English and AP Lit. #engsschat
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RozLinder11/26/20124:03 PMHi! Newbie here. Literacy Specialist and Common Core Trainer from GA.
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rscalateach11/26/20124:03 PM@meenoorami argument perfect for perspective - anticipating counter argument to make your argument stronger #engsschat
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runningdmc11/26/20124:03 PMHi. Dawn Casey-Rowe, teaching 9-10 SS but speaking English. Love both Rhode Island. #engsschat
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ShawnMcCusker11/26/20124:03 PM@runningdmc Welcome back. Glad you could join us. #engsschat
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ShawnMcCusker11/26/20124:03 PM@cybraryman1 @CTuckerEnglish #engsschat Formulating opinions from resources pushes students to evaluate what they are reading.
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Tcos9711/26/20124:03 PMHistory generally lends itself to AW such as our editorials concerning the election #engsschat
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AmyG011/26/20124:04 PMAmy from Greater Boston (Cambridge), 7th gr. English. I am ready to learn a lot tonight #engsschat
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ChelseaDeHoux11/26/20124:04 PM@NaughtonBecky I used to do that in high school when trying to write a paper. I never liked taking the easy road #engsschat
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classroomtools11/26/20124:04 PMA1-Place various perspectives on slips of paper in a hat. Students would draw a slip & write on topic from that perspective. #engsschat
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CTuckerEnglish11/26/20124:04 PM@Gryczewski: A1) Ss have to understand the 'other side' then they are forced to know multiple perspectives in their writing. #engsschat
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dietrich_edu11/26/20124:04 PM@cybraryman1 forces students to take a position, (hopefully) explore both sides, & prove statement w/ strong evidence #engsschat #edu355
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DWEllis9811/26/20124:04 PMHi! Dina GH US PIG teacher from NY #engsschat
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EDSITEment11/26/20124:04 PM@MaryAnnReilly Yes that's my point as well. #engsschat
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ElayneMonjar11/26/20124:04 PMRT @EDSITEment: Students don't realize every argument has a counterargument. Teach them that #edu355 #engsschat @CTuckerEnglish
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gduralek11/26/20124:04 PMA1: persuasive hx writing: comparative, thesis, document-based, change/continuity over time. (sorry, AP World side showing) #engsschat
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Jackhanford11/26/20124:04 PM@42ThinkDeep Of course, If you look at older history books you will often fine different details. #engsschat
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KM_Rice11/26/20124:04 PM#engsschat Not really on topic, but I need help? Any lit suggestions for 9 World Geo/Eng integration??
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NaughtonBecky11/26/20124:04 PM@Gryczewski I agree. Often I have them pick the side they like and write the other #engsschat
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ShawnMcCusker11/26/20124:04 PM@CTuckerEnglish #engsschat Also, It makes sense in a connected world to synthesize the info all around us into an informed opinion.
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thomasson_engl11/26/20124:04 PM@CTuckerEnglish The purpose of any writing is to help another person see the world thru yr eyes. Arg. writing is a part of that. #engsschat
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42ThinkDeep11/26/20124:05 PM@Jackhanford I haven't used History Lessons yet (coverage from overseas history books) but can't wait to! #engsschat
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burgessdave11/26/20124:05 PMDave Burgess from San Diego peeking in while playing youth sports chauffeur at same time #engsschat
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classroomtools11/26/20124:05 PM@42ThinkDeep There is always bias, but it may be social or cultural, not political. #engsschat
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cshirley311/26/20124:05 PM@cybraryman1 AW requires students to find evidence that supports one side while also finding holes in the argument #engsschat #edu355
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CTuckerEnglish11/26/20124:05 PM@ShawnMcCusker There are so many real world issues that are debatable! It's key to get Ss thinking about them. #engsschat
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CTuckerEnglish11/26/20124:05 PM@ElayneMonjar Great point! How can teachers support Ss in recognizing counterarguments? #engsschat
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dawnclemens11/26/20124:05 PMA1 If the students can take an opinion effectively rather than just summarizing they are forced to think more analytically. #engsschat
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dietrich_edu11/26/20124:05 PMRT @ShawnMcCusker: @CTuckerEnglish #engsschat Also, It makes sense in a connected world to synthesize the info all around us into an in ...
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ElayneMonjar11/26/20124:05 PM@CTuckerEnglish play the devil's advocate or assign students two different arguments on the same subject to research #edu355 #engsschat
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Gryczewski11/26/20124:05 PMI have my ss write editorials about historic events. Most recently, "Who's to Blame for Boston Massacre" Had to know both sides #engsschat
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Jackhanford11/26/20124:05 PM@42ThinkDeep A great example is germans taught they sank the bismark - Americans taught we sank it. #engsschat
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Jackhanford11/26/20124:05 PMRT @Ron_Peck: Hi, sorry I'm late. School happens! #engsschat
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kbport71411/26/20124:05 PMRT @cybraryman1: #engsschat 1 hr 7pmEST Common Core – Argumentative Writing. Please see: http://t.co/X4i9Se07 for questions & info ...
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MaryAnnReilly11/26/20124:05 PMClassroom discourse & pedagogy influence how well learners comprehend & compose argument (NYSTRAND & GRAFF, 2001). #engsschat
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MaryAnnReilly11/26/20124:05 PMA1 Kuhn's research on argument suggests that considering counter claims is one area middle school students rarely opt to do #engsschat
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MegNev11/26/20124:05 PMI've had students think they want to argue one way, but their research helps their views evolve. I teach logic basics w/ arg. #engsschat
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Ron_Peck11/26/20124:05 PMHi, sorry I'm late. School happens! #engsschat
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RozLinder11/26/20124:05 PM@ChelseaDeHoux Does understanding the counterargument or just acknowledging it make a better argument?
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ShawnMcCusker11/26/20124:05 PM@rscalateach @meenoorami I like the thinking ahead part of that. Looking forward, tactical thinking as it were. #engsschat
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ShawnMcCusker11/26/20124:05 PMRT @rscalateach: @meenoorami argument perfect for perspective - anticipating counter argument to make your argument stronger #engsschat
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ShawnMcCusker11/26/20124:05 PM@murrbev Welcome back Mary! #engsschat
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shfarnsworth11/26/20124:05 PM#bcluw students are midway through their multi-genre isearch projects which includes argumentative writing. #engsschat
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sjunkins11/26/20124:05 PMI think Nietzsche said it best when he said, "There are no facts, only interpretations." #engsschat
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7askretting711/26/20124:06 PMRT @sjunkins: I think Nietzsche said it best when he said, "There are no facts, only interpretations." #engsschat
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Brian_ThomasTCI11/26/20124:06 PMRT @ShawnMcCusker: For those of you nw to our chat #sschat keeps their archives here--> The #sschat NING http://t.co/kda01Dli #engsschat
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ChelseaDeHoux11/26/20124:06 PM@sjunkins Exactly. History is written by those who won the arguments/wars. History is all about perspective #engsschat
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CTuckerEnglish11/26/20124:06 PMGr8 strategy! RT @classroomtools: A1-Place perspectives in a hat. Students would draw a slip & write on topic from that persp. #engsschat
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cybraryman111/26/20124:06 PM@LindsayBBell q8 will be sharing of resources #engsschat
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dawnclemens11/26/20124:06 PM@Gryczewski Love this! #engsschat
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gduralek11/26/20124:06 PMReading Like a Historian offers great resources for perspective. Check the intro unit. http://t.co/ck2hnaoA #engsschat
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Jackhanford11/26/20124:06 PM@runningdmc use this #engsschat instead of #ssengchat :)
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