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PLAYERSKNOWN ISSUES / LIMITATIONS / NOTESNETWORKPROFILE 7 DOLBY VISION
DUAL-TRACK DUAL-LAYER FEL SUPPORT
PROFILE 7 DOLBY VISION
SINGLE-TRACK DUAL-LAYER FEL SUPPORT
PROFILE 8 DOLBY VISION
SUPPORT
PROFILE 5 DOLBY VISION
SUPPORT
Lossless AUDIO
SUPPORT
CMV4.0
SUPPORT
True
TV-LED
RECOMMENDATIONS
2
UGOOS
AM6B plus
AM6 plus
Minix u22x-j max

and a lot more
devices now

+
coreELEC

BEST
DEVICE
Must use the CoreELEC builds:
https://github.com/CoreELEC/CoreELEC/releases
https://discourse.coreelec.org/t/dolby-vision-for-minix-u22x-j-max-and-ugoos-am6/24273
Recommended settings: https://justpaste.it/divn9
Installation instructions 1: https://discourse.coreelec.org/t/guide-s922x-j-ugoos-am6b-coreelec-installation-and-faqs/51231
Installation instructions 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/1ajszn9/remux_lovers_rejoice_the_coreelec_team_has/
I recommand the ''composite'' plex addon with the Arctic Zephyr Skin. https://i.ibb.co/2P5MWKS/kodi-composite-zhepyr.png
- Support HDR10plus to DV on the fly conversion and LLDV to any HDR display with custom edid injector. (require CPM build for now)
- DV FEL now supported on many more devices: https://discourse.coreelec.org/t/ce-ng-dolby-vision-fel-for-dv-licensed-socs-s905x2-s922x-z-s905x4/50953
Issues:
* 25 fps content triggers 50hz and seems to cause hdmi handshake loss, the TV constantly goes black and trigger DV again
SOLUTION: Whitelist 25fps
* Positive lift(offset values over 2048) for L2 trim offset ignored (works in LLDV): https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1LbuwBDZj5x3i1bdbAntsZlr5CiYJ9KKj
* I can't get a gigabit connection with 10gbps switches/routers but it works fine with 1gbps switches/routers
* LLDV is only cmv2.9 and broken with high edid like all the other cmv2.9 devices listed below. Dont go higher than 2000nits and remember
that the L2 trims are ignored with edid higher than 1000nits for all the 1000nits RPU/movies.

HDMI CAPTURES accuracy test:
SDR:
https://slow.pics/c/WhoHDuEM
HDR10: https://slow.pics/c/XYkoZ2Sg
LLDV P5 vs P8 (900nits edid): https://slow.pics/c/dA0ZVvil (artifacts/ringing in HDR10 BL)
LLDV P5 vs P8 (1000nits edid): https://slow.pics/c/eInLo0Ki (artifacts/ringing in HDR10 BL)
TV-LED DV Comparisons with other devices:
Profile 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdYZo9WKBJk
Profile 7 FEL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY8qQaH50oQ
Profile 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNix1wP2NUU
CMV4.0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9FXovcc7YU
SM colorspace Pattern: https://slow.pics/c/NBQVuXQw
Personnal experience:
Watched over 200 movies/tvshow so far and not a single glitch/issue.
Very stable, FF/RW/skipping/remux works like a charm. FEL stays in sync and picture is very accurate and never drops frame nor stutter.
This is by far the BEST device!!!
gigabit port
Wifi 6
YES*

ISO, BDMV, M2TS, TS, MP4, MKV
YES*

M2TS & TS & MP4 & MKV

proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QUURfLy5ew

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4
& MKV

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4
& MKV

YES*

ALL

YES

YES
Option 1 (BEST):
* rip the disc to ST-DL Profile 7 MKV MakeMKV or MKVtoolnix

Option 2 (loss if FEL):
*rip the disc to BDMV/ISO/MKV with
MakeMKV and then convert to profile 8.1 with DoVi_Scripts workflow 4-1

DoVi_Scripts:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
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Sony x800m2TV-LED:
* Positive lift(offset values over 2048) for L2 trim offset ignored
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JrU6JXOA2KAp8oeiHDllAHs5MyodpdXr/view?usp=drive_link
* C2 + x800m2/x700 TV-LED = L2 Chroma Weight does not work. same bug as the LLDV bug described in HDTVtest youtube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSo-h-Rl-ps
* Very little effect for L1 with RPU source_PQ 1000nits. (strange considering this device does true tv-led and
the L1 is different when played on the C2 internal TV player, on the ATV and Shield.

LLDV:
* LLDV broken if your TV edid is higher than the RPU mastering display
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jBIGF8XTVi9VmDBZ8a5hEyongYMCDlUiLHU9n1f_S74/edit#gid=1222148710

* 1000nits or less edid: everything works properly (except chroma weight).
https://mega.nz/folder/JfdhkIZR#ES6Ba86_fsYI_roF0g0bUQ
https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=144716#p144716

* no TrueHD support in MKV (workaround: add a core and use M2TS/TS)
* Trigger DV for any TS/M2TS file if played via USB or disc. (No such issue via the network.)
* MP4 DV doesnt work via the network ( USB is fine)
* FFmpeg DD+ tracks does not work.
*grey letterbox with cropped DV content
* Crushed bl
ack
*L1/L2 behaves differently than internal C2/C8 player
*Source max_pq behaves differently than internal C2/C8 player

*Personal experience: I watched hundreds of DV movies on this player.
It's 100% stable, never had a single glitch or freeze(P7 P8 P5).
The freeze often reported on this player is from Disc playback.
CMV2.9
Comparisons with other devices:
Profile 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdYZo9WKBJk
Profile 7 FEL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY8qQaH50oQ
Profile 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNix1wP2NUU
CMV4.0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9FXovcc7YU
Must use the 5ghz wifi
because the 100mbps
ethernet port is not fast
enough for
high bitrate movies.
YES*
proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QUURfLy5ew

M2TS & TS
*must be muxed with tsmuxer
* forced subtitles must be selected manually
* no chapter support (transport stream limitation)

BDMV (usb only)
*must be muxed with tsmuxer
*must be placed at the usb device root
*doesn't work via network
*no ISO support
*original BDMV doesn't work

MP4
*not as stable as TS/M2TS/BDMV
*lossless audio: only LPCM 7.1
*no chapter and subtitles support
* FF/RW buggy
*doesnt work via the network

*colors are accurate
*can tonemap FEL/RPU to SDR and HDR10

YES*
proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QUURfLy5ew

M2TS & TS

* forced subtitles must be selected manually
* no chapter support
* Some FEL and all the 2mbps MEL movies give a black screen


MP4
*not as stable as TS/M2TS/BDMV
*lossless audio: only LPCM 7.1
*no chapter and subtitles support
* FF/RW buggy
*doesnt work via the network

*colors are accurate
*can tonemap FEL/RPU to SDR and HDR10

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4

YES*


M2TS & TS
& MP4
*OSD strangely reports REC709
(probably just guessing since theres no flag in the input)
TS/M2TS
TrueHD Atmos*, DTS-X, DTS-HD
*TrueHD must have a core to work.
Workflow 8-1-2 in
DoVi_Scripts

m2ts original file = TrueHD+ac3
mkv file = TrueHD without core


MKV
DTS-X, DTS-HD

EAC3: FFmpeg 1536kbps track stutter. 1024kps is fine

NO

YES
BEST OPTION, Bug FREE:
* Rip the disc as a complete BDMV folder or iso with MakeMKV
* Find out the right playlist (BDMV / PLAYLIST) bdinfo,makemkv,mkvtoolnix, workflow 8-3 in dovi script: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
* drag and drop the correct .MPLS file into tsmuxer , select the desired audio/subs and MUX to TS or M2TS
* you can stream your Windows video/music library, it will show up in the x800 media servers.
* you can also use SERVIIO media server
* forced subtitles must be selected manually
* no chapter (ts limitation)
* MUST USE 5GHZ WIFI OR USB
*DV MP4 doesnt work via the network (only TS/M2ts works)

Option 2:
* Rip the disc as a complete BDMV folder or iso with MakeMKV
* Remux to a new BDMV with tsmuxer
* put the files into an USB drive at the root ( can only have one BD folder at the time)
* bug free, chapter and forced subs support
* doesn't work via the network

Option 3(not recommended):
*Convert to Single Track dual layer P7 with the DoVi_Scripts
* some FEL movies and all the 2mbps MEL movies wont work.
* there is no dual-track dual-layer bug with ST-DL rip but some files gives a black screen


TSmuxer:
https://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/releases
DoVi_Scripts:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
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Oppo M2TS & TS DoVi
* can't play two DT-DL TS/M2TS movies in a row
without locking up
* cant FF/RW long movies (please someone confirm, not sure)
* grey letterbox with
cropped DV content
* Expensive, hard to find, no warranty ?? chinese clone
* crushed black

LLDV:
* LLDV broken if your TV edid is higher than the RPU mastering display
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jBIGF8XTVi9VmDBZ8a5hEyongYMCDlUiLHU9n1f_S74/edit#gid=1222148710
gigabit port

YES*

M2TS & TS
*must be muxed with tsmuxer
* forced subtitles must be selected manually
* no chapter support
* can't play two movies in a row without locking up
can be unlocked by playing this file or an orignal BD
* cant FF/RW long movies

BDMV/ISO
* no known bug except:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=18903050&postcount=884

MP4
probably the same as x700

*colors are accurate
YES*

M2TS & TS
* forced subtitles must be selected manually
* no chapter support
* Some FEL and all the 2mbps MEL movies give a black screen


MP4 mp4muxer
please someone comment

*colors are accurate
YES*

M2TS & TS & MP4
YES*

M2TS & TS & MP4
TS/M2TS
TrueHD Atmos*, DTS-X, DTS-HD
*TrueHD must have a core to work.
Workflow 8-1-2 in
DoVi_Scripts

m2ts original file = TrueHD+ac3
mkv file = TrueHD without core


MKV
DTS-X, DTS-HD,
TrueHD ? please someone comment

NO

YES
BEST OPTION, Bug FREE:
* rip the disc as a complete BDMV folder or iso with MakeMKV
* you can also remux to BDMV / ISO with tsmuxer and remove menu & undesired audio tracks to save space

OPTION 2:
* Rip the disc as a complete BDMV folder or iso with MakeMKV
* Find out the right playlist (BDMV / PLAYLIST) bdinfo,makemkv,mkvtoolnix , workflow 8-3 in dovi script
* drag and drop the correct .MPLS file into tsmuxer , select the desired audio/subs and MUX to TS or M2TS

Option 3(not recommended):
*Convert to Single Track dual layer P7 with the DoVi_Scripts
* some FEL movies and all the 2mbps MEL movies wont work.
* there is no dual-track dual-layer bug with ST-DL rip but some files gives a black screen

TSmuxer: https://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/releases
DoVi_Scripts: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
5
Sony x700TV-LED:
* Positive lift(offset values over 2048) for L2 trim offset ignored
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JrU6JXOA2KAp8oeiHDllAHs5MyodpdXr/view?usp=drive_link
* C2 + x800m2/x700 TV-LED = L2 Chroma Weight does not work. same bug as the LLDV bug described in HDTVtest youtube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSo-h-Rl-ps
* Very little effect for L1 with RPU source_PQ 1000nits. (strange considering this device does true tv-led and
the L1 is different when played on the C2 internal TV player, on the ATV and Shield.


LLDV:
* LLDV broken if your TV edid is higher than the RPU mastering display
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jBIGF8XTVi9VmDBZ8a5hEyongYMCDlUiLHU9n1f_S74/edit#gid=1222148710
* 1000nits or less edid: everything works properly (except chroma weight).
https://mega.nz/folder/JfdhkIZR#ES6Ba86_fsYI_roF0g0bUQ
https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=144716#p144716

*no TrueHD support in MKV (workaround: add a core and use M2TS/TS)
* Trigger DV for any TS/M2TS file if played via USB or disc. (No such issue via the network.)
* MP4 DV doesnt work via the network ( USB is fine)
* FFmpeg DD+ tracks does not work.
*grey letterbox with cropped DV content
* Crushed black
*L1/L2 behaves differently than internal C2/C8 player
*Source max_pq behaves differently than internal C2/C8 player


*Personal experience: I watched hundreds of DV movies on this player.
It's 100% stable, never had a single glitch or freeze(P7 P8 P5).
The freeze often reported on this player is from Disc playback.
CMV2.9
must use USB.
network is not fast enough
for high bitrate movies

YES*


M2TS & TS
*must be muxed with tsmuxer
* forced subtitles must be selected manually
* no chapter support
* can't play two movies in a row without locking up
can be unlocked by playing this file
* cannot FF/RW long movies

BDMV (usb only)
*must be muxed with tsmuxer
*must be placed at the usb device root
*doesnt work via network
*no ISO support

MP4
*not as stable as TS/M2TS/BDMV
*lossless audio: only LPCM 7.1
*no chapter and subtitles support
* FF/RW buggy

*colors are accurate
*can tonemap FEL/RPU to SDR and HDR10

YES*

M2TS & TS

* forced subtitles must be selected manually
* no chapter support
* Some FEL and all the 2mbps MEL movies give a black screen


MP4
*not as stable as TS/M2TS/BDMV
*lossless audio: only LPCM 7.1
*no chapter and subtitles support
* FF/RW buggy

*colors are accurate
*can tonemap FEL/RPU to SDR and HDR10

YES*


M2TS & TS
& MP4:

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4
TS/M2TS
TrueHD Atmos*, DTS-X, DTS-HD
*TrueHD must have a core to work.
Workflow 8-1-2 in
DoVi_Scripts

m2ts original file = TrueHD+ac3
mkv file = TrueHD without core


MKV
DTS-X, DTS-HD

NO

YES
Option 1(some bug):
* Rip the disc as a complete BDMV folder or iso with MakeMKV
* Find out the right playlist (BDMV / PLAYLIST) bdinfo,makemkv,mkvtoolnix , workflow 8-3
dovi script: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
* drag and drop the correct .MPLS file int
o tsmuxer , select the desired audio/subs and MUX to TS or M2TS
* put the files into an USB drive
* If you convert the
MEL movies to profile 8.1 with DoVi_Script, you're avoiding the DT-DL bugs without any quality loss

Option 2(bug free):
* Rip the disc as a complete BDMV folder or iso with MakeMKV
* Remux to a new BDMV
with tsmuxer
*put the files into an USB drive at the root ( can only have one at the time)
*bug free, chapter and forced subs support


Option 3(not recommended):
*Convert to Single Track dual layer P7 with the DoVi_Scripts
* some FEL movies and all the 2mbps MEL movies wont work.
* there is no dual-trac
k dual-layer bug with ST-DL rip but some files gives a black screen

TSmuxer:
https://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/releases
DoVi_Scripts:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
6
AppleTV 4K
(3rd gen)
* Positive lift(offset values over 2048) for L2 trim offset ignored
* colorspace pattern shows a lot of issues: https://slow.pics/c/xLgSTMc3

CMV4.0 seems broken over 4000nits:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jBIGF8XTVi9VmDBZ8a5hEyongYMCDlUiLHU9n1f_S74/edit#gid=1222148710


MUST USE INFUSE and not plex for P8

Comparisons with other devices:
Profile 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdYZo9WKBJk
Profile 7 FEL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY8qQaH50oQ
Profile 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNix1wP2NUU
CMV4.0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9FXovcc7YU
5GHZ wifi + Ethernet
NO*
*fallback in HDR10

Here's what you're missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUf2GpqoeU
NO*
*fallback in HDR10

Here's what you're missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUf2GpqoeU

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4
& MKV

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4 & MKV
LPCM
YES

YES

*rip the disc to BDMV/ISO with MakeMKV and then convert to profile 8.1 with DoVi_Scripts workflow 4-1
*quality loss if the movie is FEL

DoVi_Scripts: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
7
Chromecast
with GTV
Broken if your TV edid is higher than the RPU mastering display
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jBIGF8XTVi9VmDBZ8a5hEyongYMCDlUiLHU9n1f_S74/edit#gid=1222148710
*Does fake TV-LED, example of movies that use Chroma Weight and will look wrong:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1fHt4WJ_RK97-RqIEcKYWsHcfOdonChbX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bokDQzHkEWc
*grey letterbox with cropped DV content (all the appleTV stuff) but its
way better than what we get on the x700/x800. (Almost unoticeable)
*crushed clipped black
* DTS-HD 7.1 TS/M2tS played as LPCM 2.0
* DTS-HD 5.1/7.1 often played as LPCM 2.0 ( you have to stop/resume to fix, quite annoying)
* TrueHD 7.1 is played as LPCM 7.1 correctly.
latest firmware:
FRAMERATE match now works in PLEX (23.976 and 24 hz) but
sometimes it doesnt work and you have to stop/resume (quite annoying)
* 25fps content is played at 50hz

UPDATE MARCH 2024
still has BL EL sync issue. It looks like 1 or 2 frame OOS
Power Rangers ending credits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJqj91IZzA

Another good example is frame 70440 in Halloween.II.1981.UHD-BD
https://slow.pics/c/6AdFnUR2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ir6r2DD5r4ZKt7ABdaj5HeaFtsJaqPnt/view?usp=drive_link
5GHZ wifi
or USB-C gigabit adapter
NO*
*fallback in HDR10
YES*

M2TS & TS & MP4 & MKV

proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QUURfLy5ew

UPDATE MARCH 2024
still has BL EL sync issue. It looks like 1 or 2 frame OOS
Power Rangers ending credits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJqj91IZzA

Another good example is frame 70440 in Halloween.II.1981.UHD-BD
https://slow.pics/c/6AdFnUR2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ir6r2DD5r4ZKt7ABdaj5HeaFtsJaqPnt/view?usp=drive_link

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4
& MKV

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4
& MKV
*lossy audio up to 7.1,

*TrueHD 7.1/5.1 = LPCM 7.1/5.1
*DTS-HD 5.1 = LPCM 5.1

*TS/M2TS DTS-HD DTS-X 7.1 = LPCM 2.0
(solution:convert to LPCM 7.1 with ffmpeg.)

* DTS-HD 5.1/7.1 often played as LPCM 2.0
( you have to stop/resume to fix, quite annoying)

NO

NO
Option 1 (best) :
rip the disc to ST-DL Profile 7 MKV with MakeMKV or mkvtoolnix


Option 2 (some PQ lost) :
*rip the disc to BDMV/ISO with MakeMKV and then convert to profile 8.1 with DoVi_Scripts

DoVi_Scripts: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
8
Nvidia Shield
2019
* Positive lift(offset values over 2048) for L2 trim offset ignored . https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JrU6JXOA2KAp8oeiHDllAHs5MyodpdXr/view?usp=drive_link
* colorspace pattern shows a lot of issues: https://slow.pics/c/xLgSTMc3
* C2 + shield TV-LED = same bug as the LLDV bug described in HDTVtest youtube video(forced LLDV mode is fine).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSo-h-Rl-ps
* Drops frame constantly and can be VERY buggy.
* remote is crap
* Can't decode FEL and flickering with some P7 fel movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QUURfLy5ew

*red push issue:
TEST files: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uaHVLriou0RFuS8DWtVmxYs1tumPl0F3?usp=drive_link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtoDgkBz7Xs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeyQWs8JgXo
https://slow.pics/c/KiMMW9TM
https://slow.pics/c/1a5L6cEu
https://slow.pics/c/AOePPGYr

Comparisons with other devices:
Profile 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdYZo9WKBJk
Profile 7 FEL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY8qQaH50oQ
Profile 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNix1wP2NUU
CMV4.0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9FXovcc7YU

** dont believe a word the idiots on avsforum say. Just a bunch of fanboy with false knowledge dick ridding each other all day long
gigabit portNO*
*fallback in HDR10

Here's what you're missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUf2GpqoeU
NO*

M2TS & TS & MKV
* EL is ignored and only the dynamic
metadata in the RPU is processed and will result in wrong brightness:
https://slow.pics/c/SSTMrjTw
*some fel movie will have annoying flashes
* not perfectly stable, can take 2-3 times to trigger DV
*red push issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeyQWs8JgXo
TEST files: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uaHVLriou0RFuS8DWtVmxYs1tumPl0F3?usp=drive_link

MP4 mp4muxer
*not as stable as TS/M2TS/MKV

Here's what you're missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUf2GpqoeU

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4
&MKV
*red push color issue

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4
&MKV
*colors are mostly accurate

YES*

ALL

YES

YES
Option 1 (best) :
*rip the disc to BDMV/ISO with MakeMKV and then convert to profile 8.1 with DoVi_Scripts
*save tons of space with FEL movies (useless on this player anyway, so no quality loss)

Option 2 (some bug):
* rip the disc to ST-DL Profile 7 MKV with DoVi_Scripts or MakeMKV or mkvtoolnix
* you're wasting HDD space with this method when movie is FEL

DoVi_Scripts:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
9
Windows
10 / 11
DV is not triggered
but the RPU (LLDV)
is processed in
HDR10 or SDR
according to your
Monitor/TV EDID.
Require HEVC and
Dolby Vision
extension and
energy player
DV is not triggered but the RPU(LLDV) is processed in HDR10 or SDR according to your Monitor/TV EDID.
Require HEVC(NOT FREE) and Dolby Vision extension(FREE) and Energy player (FREE).
CMV4.0 supported and only hdmi device to support Level 5.

https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9P9ZH5FL1BFK
https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9PLTG1LWPHLF

proof:

L1: https://i.ibb.co/k966tJJ/explorer-tiw-JBUZll-X.gif
L2: https://i.ibb.co/zVXqFZ6/explorer-q9-Gn-Vnfxn-M.gif
L5: https://i.ibb.co/4mcj1Nz/Application-Frame-Host-RUi3k-Zv3-Ax.gif
L8: https://i.ibb.co/98hKXpt/Application-Frame-Host-rx4jyk-Ma-Vh.gif

* SAME red push bug as the Nvidia Shield:
https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=145982#p145982
TEST files: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uaHVLriou0RFuS8DWtVmxYs1tumPl0F3?usp=drive_link
NANO*
TS/M2TS/MP4
*fallback as HDR10

Here's what you're missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUf2GpqoeU
NO*

M2TS & TS & MP4 & MKV
*EL discarded
proof the rpu is processed: https://s13.gifyu.com/images/SjVO6.gif
you have to force P8 in Energy player decoding mode for ST P7 playback.
Mapping metadata are not removed and can cause flickers.

Here's what you're missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUf2GpqoeU
YES*

M2TS & TS & MP4 & MKV
YES*

M2TS & TS & MP4 & MKV

YES*

ALL

YES

NO
*Rip to profile 8 MKV with DoVi_Scripts
*Can also play P7 ST-DL but you have to manually force P8 decoding every time

DoVi_Scripts: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
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Zidoo Z9Xtotally broken if your TV edid is higher than the RPU mastering display
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jBIGF8XTVi9VmDBZ8a5hEyongYMCDlUiLHU9n1f_S74/edit#gid=1222148710
*send incorrectly a bt2020 flag with TV-LED mode
* Positive lift(offset values over 2048) for L2 trim offset ignored
causing some color innacuracy(may be fixed now)
* flickering with some P7 fel movie
*Does fake TV-LED, example of movies that use Chroma Weight and will look wrong:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1fHt4WJ_RK97-RqIEcKYWsHcfOdonChbX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bokDQzHkEWc

Dont believe a word that the Zidoo mod say, Fake TV-LED IS A BUG. BTW its the same guy recommanding using a 1000nits edid
which is beyond stupid since this will result in the RPU 100% ignored for 1000nits mastered movie.
gigabit portNO*
TS/M2TS/MP4
*fallback as HDR10 ( not sure, please someone confirm)
ISO/BDMV
EL is ignored and only the dynamic
metadata in the RPU is processed

Here's what you're missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUf2GpqoeU
NO*

M2TS & TS & MP4 & MKV
*EL is ignored and only the dynamic
metadata in the RPU is processed

Here's what you're missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUf2GpqoeU

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4
&MKV

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4
&MKV

YES*

ALL

NO

NO
Option 1 (best) :
*rip the disc to BDMV/ISO with MakeMKV and then convert to profile 8.1 with DoVi_Scripts
*save tons of space with FEL movies (useless on this player anyway, so no quality loss)

Option 2 (some bug):
* rip the disc to ST-DL Profile 7 MKV with DoVi_Scripts or MakeMKV
* you're wasting HDD space with this method when movie is FEL

DoVi_Scripts:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
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Fire TV Stick
4K MAX
*Does fake TV-LED but the rpu response is very accurate
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jBIGF8XTVi9VmDBZ8a5hEyongYMCDlUiLHU9n1f_S74/edit#gid=1222148710
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bokDQzHkEWc

*grey letterbox with cropped DV content (all the appleTV stuff) but its
way better than what we get on the x700/x800. (Almost unoticeable)
can be fixed using this:
https://github.com/quietvoid/xbmc/releases/tag/v21-dovi

*ST2084 tracking issues
*crushed clipped
black
* looks darker than all the other devices
5GHZ wifiNO*
*fallback in HDR10

Here's what you're missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUf2GpqoeU
NO*

https://github.com/quietvoid/xbmc/releases/tag/v21-dovi
thank's to quietvoid, P7 (as P8) playback is possible

Here's what you're missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUf2GpqoeU

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4
&MKV

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4
&MKV
*most likely the same as the Cube
YES

NO
Option 1 (best) :
*rip the disc to BDMV/ISO with MakeMKV and then convert to profile 8.1 with DoVi_Scripts
*save tons of space with FEL movies (useless on this player anyway, so no quality loss)

Option 2:
* rip the disc to ST-DL Profile 7 MKV with DoVi_Scripts or MakeMKV
* you're wasting HDD space with this method when movie is FEL
* must use kodi
https://github.com/quietvoid/xbmc/releases/tag/v21-dovi

DoVi_Scripts:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
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Fire TV Cube
(3rd gen)

*Does fake TV-LED but the rpu response is very accurate
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jBIGF8XTVi9VmDBZ8a5hEyongYMCDlUiLHU9n1f_S74/edit#gid=1222148710
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bokDQzHkEWc
*grey letterbox with cropped DV content (all the appleTV stuff) but its
way better than what we get on the x700/x800. (Almost unoticeable)
can be fixed using this:
https://github.com/quietvoid/xbmc/releases/tag/v21-dovi
*ST2084 tracking issues
*crushed clipped black
*PLEX: 24fps content played at 23.976 and drop frames
*PLEX: 25fps content playes at 50hz
*PLEX: Sometimes frame rate match doesnt work
*PLEX: Audio sometimes out of sync ( stop/resume will fix it)
*KODI: 24fps content played at 23.976 and drop frames
*KODI: 25fps can be played at 25hz if you turn off kodi's frame rate
match and set the fps to 25
*AppleTV app: Everything is 60hz
*If audio is set to "best available" DD+ passtrough doesnt work
*Alexa doesnt work properly half the time
5GHZ wifiNO*
*fallback in HDR10

Here's what you're missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUf2GpqoeU
NO*

EL ignored and played as P8
Here's what you're missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUf2GpqoeU

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4
&MKV

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4
&MKV
https://www.avsforum.com/posts/63555729/
YES

NO
Option 1 (best) :
*rip the disc to BDMV/ISO with MakeMKV and then convert to profile 8.1 with DoVi_Scripts
*save tons of space with FEL movies (useless on this player anyway, so no quality loss)

Option 2:
* rip the disc to ST-DL Profile 7 MKV with DoVi_Scripts or MakeMKV
* you're wasting HDD space with this method when movie is FEL
* must use kodi
https://github.com/quietvoid/xbmc/releases/tag/v21-dovi

DoVi_Scripts:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
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Dune playertotally broken if your TV edid is higher than the RPU mastering display
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jBIGF8XTVi9VmDBZ8a5hEyongYMCDlUiLHU9n1f_S74/edit#gid=1222148710
*Does fake TV-LED, example of movies that use Chroma Weight and will look wrong:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1fHt4WJ_RK97-RqIEcKYWsHcfOdonChbX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bokDQzHkEWc
* flickering with some P7 fel movie
* I dont know about the stability but this look like the best MEL player
gigabit portNO*

TS/M2TS/MP4
*fallback as HDR10 ( not sure, please someone confirm)
ISO/BDMV
EL is ignored and only the dynamic
metadata in the RPU is processed
Here's what you're missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUf2GpqoeU
NO*

M2TS & TS & MP4 & MKV
*EL is ignored and only the dynamic
metadata in the RPU is processed
*colors are accurate
Here's what you're missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUf2GpqoeU

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4 &MKV

YES*


M2TS & TS & MP4 &MKV

YES*

ALL

NO

NO
Option 1 (best) :
*rip the disc to BDMV/ISO with MakeMKV and then convert to profile 8.1 with DoVi_Scripts
*save tons of space with FEL movies (useless on this player anyway, so no quality loss)

Option 2 (some bug):
* rip the disc to ST-DL Profile 7 MKV with DoVi_Scripts or MakeMKV or mkvtoolnix
* you're wasting HDD space with this method when movie is FEL

DoVi_Scripts:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
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LG OLED
C7
internal player

*raised black. Can be fixed with:
1- White balance: Low, 2pts, RGB -1/-1/-1 (doesnt completly fix it on my C8)
2- contrast 99 (completely fix it on my C8) and this affect hues
*crushed black
must use the 5ghz wifi
because the 100mbps
ethernet port is not fast
enough for
high bitrate movies.
There's also an
USB to ethernet adaptor
that works
YES*

MP4 mp4muxer
*as long as the first audio track is lossy and
no pgs subtitles are selected. External SRT works.
Cannot play the AC3 core of TrueHD tracks, it breaks DV
* not very stable
*ts/m2ts doesn't work
YES*

M2TS & TS & MP4
*as long as the first audio track is lossy and
no pgs subtitles are selected. External SRT works.
Cannot play the AC3 core of TrueHD tracks, it breaks DV
* Some FEL movie won't work or stutter
*do not use makemkv to create ST-DL

NO*

YES*


M2TS & TS &
MP4
*as long as the first audio track is lossy and
no pgs subtitles are selected. External SRT works.
Cannot play the AC3 core of TrueHD tracks, it breaks DV
*lossy audio only
*can play dts core of DTS-HD DTS-x

NO
N.A.Option 1 : (all the movies work)
*rip the disc to BDMV/ISO with MakeMKV and then convert to profile 8.1 with DoVi_Scripts (mp4 or ts version)
*quality loss if the movie is FEL

Option 2: (BEST: lossless but some movies might stutter)
*rip the disc to BDMV/ISO with MakeMKV and mux to DT-DL MP4 only with DoVi_Script (mp4) workflow 4-3

Option 3: (BEST: lossless but some movies dont work)
*rip the disc to BDMV/ISO with MakeMKV and then remux to ST-DL profile 7 MP4/TS with
DoVi_Scripts
do not use makeMKV to create the ST-DL!!!
*Mux wit
h tsmuxer or chose a mp4muxer workflow in the dovi_scripts

AUDIO & SUBS:
*Convert lossless audio to EAC3 with the in the dovi_scripts. Lossy audio must be pre-selected in plex
* put the SRT subtitles in the same folder with the same name and plex with pick them up.
A.Movie.2022.DV.ts
A.Movie.2022.DV.ENG.srt
A.Movie.2022.DV.ENG.FORCED.srt

DoVi_Scripts: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
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LG OLED
C8 - C9
internal player

*raised black. Can be fixed with:
1- White balance: Low, 2pts, RGB -1/-1/-1 (doesnt completly fix it on my C8)
2- contrast 99 (completely fix it on my C8) and this affect hues
*C8: crushed black

*C9: not an issue but this is the first gen cmv4.0 TV.
must use the 5ghz wifi
because the 100mbps
ethernet port is not fast
enough for
high bitrate movies.
There's also an
USB to ethernet adaptor
that works
YES*

MP4 mp4muxer
*as long as the first audio track is lossy and
no pgs subtitles are selected. External SRT works.
Cannot play the AC3 core of TrueHD tracks, it breaks DV
* not very stable
*ts/m2ts doesn't work
YES*

M2TS & TS & MP4
*as long as the first audio track is lossy and
no pgs subtitles are selected. External SRT works.
Cannot play the AC3 core of TrueHD tracks, it breaks DV
* Some FEL movie won't work or stutter
*do not use makemkv to create ST-DL

YES*


M2TS & TS &
MP4
*as long as the first audio track is lossy and
no pgs subtitles are selected. External SRT works.
Cannot play the AC3 core of TrueHD tracks, it breaks DV

YES*


M2TS & TS &
MP4
*as long as the first audio track is lossy and
no pgs subtitles are selected. External SRT works.
Cannot play the AC3 core of TrueHD tracks, it breaks DV
*lossy audio only
*can play dts core of DTS-HD DTS-x

C8
NO

C9
YES
N.A.Option 1 : (all the movies work)
*rip the disc to BDMV/ISO with MakeMKV and then convert to profile 8.1 with DoVi_Scripts (mp4 or ts version)
*quality loss if the movie is FEL

Option 2: (BEST: lossless but some movies might stutter)
*rip the disc to BDMV/ISO with MakeMKV and mux to DT-DL MP4 only with DoVi_Script (mp4) workflow 4-3

Option 3: (BEST: lossless but some movies dont work)
*rip the disc to BDMV/ISO with MakeMKV and then remux to ST-DL profile 7 MP4/TS with
DoVi_Scripts
do not use makeMKV to create the ST-DL!!!
*Mux wit
h tsmuxer or chose a mp4muxer workflow in the dovi_scripts

AUDIO & SUBS:
*Convert lossless audio to EAC3 with the in the dovi_scripts. Lossy audio must be pre-selected in plex
* put the SRT subtitles in the same folder with the same name and plex with pick them up.
A.Movie.2022.DV.ts
A.Movie.2022.DV.ENG.srt
A.Movie.2022.DV.ENG.FORCED.srt

DoVi_Scripts: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
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LG OLED CX
( or newer)
internal player
*raised black. Can be fixed with:
1- White balance: Low, 2pts, RGB -1/-1/-1 (completely fix it on my C2)
2- contrast 99 (doesnt completly fix it on my C2) and this affect hues

* C2 TV-LED= L2 Trim_chroma_weight doesnt work (works in cmv4.0)
* C2 TV-LED= same bug as the LLDV bug described in HDTVtest youtube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSo-h-Rl-ps
*C2: cmv2.9 content = crushed black arround 69-70 1000nits RPU and crushed at 79-80 for 10K RPU
*C2: cmv4.0 content = no crush
*C2 much darker than the other devices with 4000nits RPU: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9FXovcc7YU


KODI MKV: on my end AVC mkv have lipsync issue, looks like 2-3 frame OOS. HEVC is fine
https://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Install_Kodi_for_webOS
support: https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=368381
must use the 5ghz wifi
because the 100mbps
ethernet port is not fast
enough for
high bitrate movies.
There's also an USB to
ethernet adaptor that works
NO*
*fallback in HDR10
NO*


MKV & MP4
Here's what you're missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKUf2GpqoeU

-EL is ignored
- Apparently, latest versions of jellyfin webos support DV MKV

-KODI:
https://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Install_Kodi_for_webOS

YES*


M2TS & TS &
MP4
*as long as the first audio track is lossy and
no pgs subtitles are selected. External SRT works.
Cannot play the AC3 core of TrueHD tracks, it breaks DV

MKV
- Apparently, latest versions of jellyfin webos support DV MKV

-KODI:
https://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Install_Kodi_for_webOS
support SRT-PGS-chapters

YES*


M2TS & TS &
MP4
*as long as the first audio track is lossy and
no pgs subtitles are selected. External SRT works.
Cannot play the AC3 core of TrueHD tracks, it breaks DV

MKV
- Apparently, latest versions of jellyfin webos support DV MKV

-KODI:
https://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Install_Kodi_for_webOS
support SRT-PGS-chapters
lossy audio only (except DTS)
*Convert lossless audio to EAC3 with the in the dovi_scripts

YES
N.A.Option 1 : (all the movies work)
*rip the disc to BDMV/ISO with MakeMKV and then convert to profile 8.1 with DoVi_Scripts
*quality loss if the movie is FEL

AUDIO & SUBS:
*Convert lossless audio to EAC3 with the in the dovi_scripts. Lossy audio must be pre-selected in plex
* put the SRT subtitles in the same folder with the same name and plex with pick them up.
A.Movie.2022.DV.ts
A.Movie.2022.DV.ENG.srt
A.Movie.2022.DV.ENG.FORCED.srt

for DV MKV playback:
require KODI: https://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Install_Kodi_for_webOS
Lossless 7.1 breaks the app and lossless 5.1 is played as 2.0 pcm
7.1 EAC3 is fine up to 1024kbps

DoVi_Scripts:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185317
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Sony Bravia A8H
source:
https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=134179#p134179
?5GHZ wifi
NO*
FEL TS= plays in HDR - FEL MKV = plays in SDR
NO*

FEL TS= plays in HDR - FEL MKV = plays in SDR
MEL = ok ?

YES*

MKV / MP4 / TS / M2TS

YES*

MKV / MP4 / TS / M2TS
??N.A.?
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Great DV explanations:
https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=121936#p121936
https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=121781#p121781
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=16546620&postcount=119
https://professionalsupport.dolby.com/s/article/Dolby-Vision-Metadata-Levels?language=en_US
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhxORqncgJE


list of FEL/MEL* movies: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276448
Screenshot comparisons: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jBIGF8XTVi9VmDBZ8a5hEyongYMCDlUiLHU9n1f_S74/edit#gid=917134052
WEB and bluray comparisons: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jBIGF8XTVi9VmDBZ8a5hEyongYMCDlUiLHU9n1f_S74/edit#gid=0
DoVi / HDR10 / SDR patterns: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1yAq-jgsb8pYa92PnGZkxyEV0E3VVkhiC?usp=sharing
DoVi_tool: https://github.com/quietvoid/dovi_tool
tsMuxeR: https://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/releases
MakeMKV: https://www.makemkv.com/
DoVi_Scripts: https://github.com/R3S3t9999/DoVi_Scripts

DT-DL FEL = dual track dual layer full enhancement layer
ST-DL FEL = single track dual layer full enhancement layer
MEL = minimal enhancement layer
* EL bitrate of ≃2mbps or less = MEL

P7 > P5* > P7 MEL = P8
*P5 videos have a lower bitrate(streaming), obviously.

P7 (always dual layer) = HDR10 10bits base layer + 12bits data in EL 1080p stream (diff. between 12bit master and 10 bits encode) + dynamic metadata in RPU
P7 MEL (always dual layer) = HDR10 10bits base layer + Blank EL1080p stream + dynamic metadata in RPU
P8 (always single layer) = HDR10 10bits base layer + dynamic metadata in RPU (can also have an HLG(8.4) or SDR BL(8.2))
P5 (always single layer) = 10bits full
range ICtCp colorspace (green and purple colors) + dynamic metadata in RPU
P4 (dual layer,FEL or MEL) = SDR base layer + FEL or MEL + dynamic metadata in RPU


*FEL DV can contain extra details/grain, help with banding, expand brightness (example:
https://slow.pics/c/pzYlva2Y) etc.. Especially noticeable with movies poorly encoded like SC BD Total Recall See: https://slow.pics/c/dgibQoJ1
*Profile 7 can be merged in a single track (makemkv) but it's still dual layer DV.
*Profile 5 DV is 10 bits but u
se a more efficient colorspace than YCBCR(P7/P8) and is the equivalent of 11.5bits YCBCR


about the trims:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15HTaR0hRvI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcN6a57DYAc

Slope(gain) (green line)= value under 2048 = darken over 2048= brighten
offset (lift) (blue line)= value under 2048 = darken over 2048= brighten
power(gamma) (green line)= value under 2048 = brighten over 2048= darken
chroma weight affects only the highly saturated highlights. value under 2048 = darken over 2048= brighten
saturation gain controls the whole image saturation. This is the trim that can make DV colors look quite different than HDR10...
ms weight works like madvr highlights recovery, it increases or decreases details in highlights.

Generated / automatic trims from cmv4.0 will:
1- only use slope, offset and power.
2- will brighten with gamma and power the low nits scene. in the 600nits trims
3- will darken with gamma and power the high nits scene. in the 600nits trims
4- 100nits trims will most of the time have gamma and power values in the negative canceling each other( gamma darkens as much as power brightens) and most of the time offset will be negative too which makes sense because it compresses HDR to SDR range.
5- they will look 80% of the time like in this full comparison: https://slow.pics/c/hcIFEfIM

CMV2.9 rpu:
1- if the avg pq floor is 2.5nits, you know this comes from a 2.9 workflow so you can be sure that the trims is 100% manual
2- if th avg pq floor is 10nits, you know this come from a 4.0 workflow and the 100-600-1000 trims are 100% a conversion from a manual 100nits L8 trim
3- as soon as you see trim saturation gain and chroma weight or ms weight, you know this must come from the colorist as the dolby system cannot generate those.

CMV4.0 rpu
If there is no active L8 trims, it means the L2 trims are 100% generated. They could be slightly updated with manual L3 mid tone offset which i dont know if it affects the generated trims (most likely it does because it directly affects L3)

of the tons of rpu I checked so far, I think i saw active L8 600nits trims only 3 times. Therefore 99.9% of the movie(with trims) we watch, are from a 100nits trims manual job.
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