1 | Pacific Crest Trail Water Report -- Part One: Campo to Idyllwild | Updated 06/20/23 @ 2:05pm by woodglue | |||||
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2 | Campo, CA to Idyllwild, CA | www.pctwater.com | |||||
3 | Our new Water Report is on a map. It's the 2023 Pacific Crest Trail Report. Check it out! It's all the same water source, campsite, Creek Fording, Mountain Passes, Fire Closure, Reroute information in an interactive Google Map! | ||||||
4 | Never rely on water caches!!! Beware of contaminated water. Purify backcountry water. FOR WATER CACHE TRAIL ANGELS : Water jugs, and caches, left unattended often end up as litter blown across the landscape. A little rope through the handles is a quick fix (if there is no other way to secure the bottles) but don't forget to revisit what you've left out! If you are going to put items out on trail please keep Leave No Trace principles in mind to preserve our trails. | ||||||
5 | Updates will remain on this report for 12 months. You can send email updates to water@pctwater.com or phone/text 619-734-7289 or 619-734-PCTW [voice mail/text only, no one will answer]. Mileages and waypoint names used in this water report are derived from the Halfmile Mile Markers used in the 2022 Pacific Crest Trail Report, the same mile markers used in Halfmile’s PCT maps which stopped receiving updates in 2019. Please post photos & videos of water sources, fires, passes, Poodle Dog Bush, and stream creek crossings to our Facebook Group, PCT Water,Fire,Passes,Fords Update Group | ||||||
6 | Take fire safety seriously. Alcohol stoves start fires – go stoveless or carry a stove with a contained fuel source and a shut-off valve. A campfire permit is required in this section (even for backpackers stove use). Get yours for free @ https://www.readyforwildfire.org/permits/campfire-permit | ||||||
7 | Water sources with blue text [marked with * or **] have historically been more reliable. Sources marked with ** are more likely to have water year-round than those marked with a single *. Water described as seasonal, usually dry, early spring, etc. are less reliable.. | ||||||
8 | Map | Mile | Waypoint | Location | Report | Date | Reported By |
9 | California Section A: Campo to Warner Springs | ||||||
10 | Start your hike with enough water to make it to the Lake Morena Campground. | ||||||
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12 | A1 | 0.0. | MexBorder | Mexican Border, PCT's Southern Terminus -------------------- Trail register behind the monument | |||
13 | A1 | 0.5 | The Camp Lockett Event & Equestrian Facility ------------------- Water spigot & free tent camping for hiker use. If hikers wish to do so they may make a donation at campocleef.org Ray @ Camp Lockett - 03/17/20 | 02/06/23 (Erin G): water is on 04/23/22 (Monty Tam): faucet to right of trail behind tree. good water and good flow. 03/28/22 (57mars): cleef offers water, bathrooms, camping, two meals, charging outlets for free, donations accepted 05/25/21 (ancarter): faucet on | 2/7/23 | Erin G | |
14 | A1 | 1.2 | WR001 | **Cottonwood Community Day School (formerly Juvenile Ranch Facility) [faucet behind sign] | 04/23/22 (Monty Tam): faucet directly behind sign. good water and good flow. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=4977154378987823&set=oa.945297872769859 | 4/23/22 | Monty Tam |
15 | A1 | 1.4 | Campo, Ca. ------------------ This is a small town, with a store, payphone, weekday sdmts.com bus service & post office 619-478-5466. | ||||
16 | A1 | 2.7 | Seasonal creek [usually dry] | 04/16/23 (seagypsyhiker): plenty of flow 03/26/23 (happycamper2021): loads of flowing water 12/16/22 (Earl W): Dry 04/23/22 (Monty Tam): Lots of water. Good enough. Still flowing from above. | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish | |
17 | A1 | 4.4 | WR004 | Creeklet ---------------- Campsite (CS0005) nearby at mm4.6 in a dry meadow | 04/16/23 (seagypsyhiker): plenty here 03/26/23 (jmtgirl): lots of poison oak at water source 12/16/22 (Earl W): Dry 05/07/22 (Postal): still flowing 04/30/22 (yellowbear): Flowing < 1 L/min 04/23/22 (Spinymouse): Flowing water today. | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish |
18 | A1 | ~6.6 | Seasonal creek [usually dry] | 04/14/23 (chrismccallum): lots of water running through here still 03/24/23 (acoleman1): excellent flow! 12/16/22 (Earl W): Dry 04/24/22 (Monty Tam): dry and should probably be taken off the water report | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish | |
19 | A1 | 8.8 | RD0009B | Unpaved jeep road Seasonal Pond located ~4/10 mile due North from PCT mm8.8 @ 32.63259, -116.51967 Go to where you see the windmill. Take the driveway next to the shack but continue 200 yards down that slope past the end. | 04/24/22 (Monty Tam): The pond is currently not a pond, but mud. Today a person could walk out on the mud and dig to create a seep, but will soon not do even that. But from the jeep road you see a large trough that collects rain water. The water is ice tea color, 4" deep and can be used in a pinch. I suggest tanking up at mile 4.4 and skipping this option for the rest of this year. 04/19/22 (789321): Pond could dry up soon. 03/11/22 (mr p.): pond north of here along the road is small and murky, trough has water. | 4/26/22 | Monty Tam |
20 | A2 | ~12.2 | Seasonal creek [usually dry] | 12/16/22 (Earl W): Dry | 12/18/22 | Earl W | |
21 | Mile 15.36 : 3/10/17 (Rebo) : There is a water cistern 1.6 miles down Hauser Creek Road off trail starting at Mile 15.36. Go left (for Nobo's) on Hauser Creek dirt road and walk down past white tube gate. In ~1.4 miles the dirt road ends at two large boulders. Go past the two boulders and walk ~50 feet. Go to your right and then go up the ravine (listen for water). Video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eqXmBcfeAw 01/22/21 (Goldenrod): Cistern at Hauser Rd reported to be good by another on the trail. | ||||||
22 | A2 | 15.4 | WRCS015 | Hauser Creek [early spring only] ----------------------- If dry at creek crossing, try taking a right on the road E & walk up stream 200-300 yards. Periodically walk up to creek and check for pools. These last just a little longer than at trail. [Beware; it often has water in April, only to go dry just before ADZPCTKO]. WATCH OUT FOR POISON OAK in this area. | 04/10/23 (rscook87): flowing well 03/24/23 (ziggurat44): lots of water with all the rain 12/16/22 (Earl W): Dry (including anywhere above and below the trail crossing) 04/30/22 (yellowbear): Flowing > 10 L/min 04/25/22 (Monty Tam): Zero water here, but plenty 1.6 miles down the dirt road. 04/25/22 (Jason B): still fast flowing and cold 1.5 miles to west. | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish |
23 | A2 | 15.4 | WACS016 | Cottonwood Crk below Lake Morena [1.6miles W and 500’ descent from PCT down dirt road; large open drainage to the north, flowing over rocks with cottonwood trees] | 12/16/22 (Earl W): Strong flow 05/07/22 (Postal): strong flow. A solid 1.5 miles off trail 04/25/22 (Monty Tam): plenty of water 1.6 miles down the dirt road from PCT. 03/28/22 (christopherbm): water still flowing 1.5 miles west of mm15.4. follow road til it dead ends in a rocky outcrop and climb back a ways. | 12/18/22 | Earl W |
24 | A2 | 20 | LkMorenaCG | **Lake Morena Camp Ground ========================= 03/16/20 (Wildman): 2 Campground Rangers verbally reported testing was performed on water at campsites and there is no longer indications of E Coli bacteria present. | 06/02/22 (Moritz): Spigots are on 05/08/22 (Postal): spigots still on. Water must be filtered 04/25/22 (Monty Tam): plenty of water faucets 04/08/22 (Geared Up): Water on and safe to drink. 02/24/22 (Spencer): Spigot is on. | 6/5/22 | Moritz |
25 | A3 | 24.1 | WR024 | Cottonwood Creek Bridge | 04/15/23 (woodsbear): shin deep 03/23/23 (geoni): fairly swift and crotch to waist deep but not knockdown levels of forceful. cross with another around or better yet use the road to get over it 02/06/23 (Erin G): flowing | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish |
26 | A3 | 25.5 | WR026 | Cottonwood Creekbed | 04/14/23 (hikingforhunger): knee deep (5'3"). 03/26/23 (minichimi): i am 5'1" and it was up to my waist 02/06/23 (Erin G): flowing | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish |
27 | A3 | 26.0 | BoulderOaks CG | **Boulder Oaks Campground | 03/24/23 (ouch): faucet working, bathroom open 02/06/23 (Erin G): water is on but freezing at night. Only flow when temps rise enough to thaw pipe 06/02/22 (Moritz): Spigots are on 05/08/22 (Postal): spigots still on 04/17/22 (patches2018): Group thru hiker spot currently open for hikers here. free. water on. camp host is very nice and helpful. bathrooms open. lots of freeway noise. 04/10/22 (Geared Up): Good water from the faucet | 3/28/23 | via Devilfish |
28 | NOBO:First spigot is hard to see - it's hiding on the back of a 2' brown post just as the PCT gets onto the CG road. A 2nd faucet is on a tall brown post further along the road. SOBO:Heading south the spigot is to the left of the trail just before exiting the campground. There are several other spigots in the campground. | ||||||
29 | While E. coli was present in the Mount Laguna area in the past years, please treat all water sources in this area. | ||||||
30 | A3 | ~26.8 | Kitchen Creek near I-8 | 11/24/21 (MisterEd): Dry 08/19/21 (Thaddaeus): Dry | 11/27/21 | MisterEd | |
31 | A3 | 28.5 | KitchenCrFalls | *Kitchen Creek Falls [2/10 mi NW] | 06/19/23 (Will): water is flowing clear and cool. 03/03/23 (davidgmyer): stream running really full, water ice cold, multiple waterfalls | 6/19/23 | Will |
32 | A3 | ~30 | Kitchen Creek [100 feet below trail] | 06/19/23 (Will): water is flowing clear and cool. 04/12/23 (hikingchick): water flowing across trail 03/20/23 (dutchhikingbrothers): water flowing strong! 11/14/22 (Bryan): Not flowing, but some water remaining in rock pools. Difficult access from trail. | 6/19/23 | Will | |
33 | Or continue to paved road at 30.6 and take a left and then a dirt road down to the water [~0.4 mile]. | ||||||
34 | A3 | 30.2 | WRCS030 | *Kitchen Creek, Yellow Rose Spring [4/10 mile N of PCT on road] | 06/19/23 (Will): water is flowing clear and cool. 04/13/23 (mrswhite): good water 03/06/23 (scias): at least 90 L/hour flow | 6/19/23 | Will |
35 | A4 | 32.0 | WRCS032 | Fred Canyon [usually dry] | 06/19/23 (Will): water is flowing clear and cool. 04/16/23 (berryt): water still flowing strong 03/25/23 (roadrunner): great flow of water | 6/19/23 | Will |
36 | Walk 500 ft downhill E, turn right at the first obvious place, almost immediately see a seasonal stream | ||||||
37 | A4 | 32.6 | CibbetsCG | **Cibbets Flat Campground [8/10 mi NW on Fred Cyn Rd] | 06/19/23 (Will): water is flowing clear and cool. | 6/19/23 | Will |
38 | A5 | 36.9 | WR037 | Long Canyon [access at mm37.1 is easier] | 03/05/23 (jimmyjamhikes): there's water here if you don't mind postholing to get to it 04/14/22 (stellinastarlet): flowing well | 3/28/23 | via Devilfish |
39 | ~37.1 | Long Creek ----------- Seasonal Creek, was reported dry in Jul2020 | 04/03/22 (wayfinder): water flowing very well, can be accessed down a little trail from camp. steep, fairly soft ground, lots of thorns, easier to access water up trail, but great if you are camping here | 4/20/22 | via Devilfish | ||
40 | A5 | 37.7 | WR038 | Long Canyon Creek ford --------------------- Trail Crosses Long Canyon Creek. Seasonal Creek, was reported dry in Aug2021 | 04/16/23 (alexmf): plenty of water left here 03/26/23 (ray): still flowing. last mile or two into mt laguna today were muddy today with little patches of snow, microspikes not needed. 11/14/22 (Bryan): Flowing, 1-3 inches deep. 05/09/22 (Postal): water flowing pretty close to the ground 05/03/22 (Yellowbear): Flowing ~ 4 L/min | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish |
41 | A5 | ~38.0 | New Source | New Water Source @ GPS coordinates just after WR0038, about 250yds further up the trail 32.816715, -116.416006 | 08/19/21 (Thaddaeus): There is flowing stream that has a pool and trickling water that is clear, cold, ~8-10 in deep. Access is NOBO left side about 25 feet from trail . No poison oak. And trickling sound noticeable | 8/31/21 | Thaddaeus |
42 | A5 | 38.8 | WRCS039 | *Lower Morris Mdw [trough 3/10 mi NW] | 04/15/23 (johna): piped spring flowing into cistern at 1:20/L | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish |
43 | Directions to trough: take side trail from PCT; walk west on path/road approx 150 yds to fence; go thru opening; continue approx 10 yds to a L on rutted dirt road; head downhill approx 30 yds; look for fence posts on R. Trough to your R - 20 yds. Good camping in area. | ||||||
44 | A5 | 41.4 | BurntRanchCG | Burnt Rancheria Campground | 03/26/23 (michele lamelin): burnt rancheria closed, camp host said we could camp nearby so long as she "doesn't know" 11/14/22 (Bryan): Water off 06/03/22 (Moritz): Spigots are on 05/09/22 (Postal): spigots still on 04/11/22 (Geared Up): Faucets on, camping open, showers closed. | 3/28/23 | via Devilfish |
45 | Turn left @ signed junction where PCT joins the Desert View Trail [sign does not mention campground].Faucet by site 48 at south end of campground is closest to the PCT. | ||||||
46 | A6 | 41.4 | PO043 | **Mount Laguna town, lodge, store [4/10 mi SW of WR043] | 02/25/22 (Spencer): Store and PO is open. There's a new outdoor gear store that has great coffee and cool people. | 3/3/22 | Spencer |
47 | The easiest access to Mount Laguna is to follow the sign directing hikers down the trail through the Burnt Rancheria CG and then right on the Sunrise Highway. You will pass a restaurant, an outfitter, and another restaurant on the way to the Mount Laguna Lodge. Non-purist hikers can continue past the lodge to the Desert View Picnic area to rejoin the PCT, bypassing 1.2 miles of the trail, or you can backtrack on the highway to the campground. | ||||||
48 | A6 | 41.4 | **Mount Laguna Visitor Center [just north of the store] | 05/09/22 (Postal): The water spigot just in front of the visitor’s center is on. The water fountains at the restrooms are not. 03/27/22 (tjwoody): spigot to the right the welcome center tastes like pool water, bathrooms to the left | 5/10/22 | Postal | |
49 | A6 | 42.1 | WR042 | Burnt Rancheria Drinking Fountain by CG jct -------------- This fountain was off: -April 2020, May2020 -March 2021 | 06/03/22 (Moritz): Spigots are on 04/17/22 (tabbachoychoy): water is on 03/29/22 (paperdesert): water's not on yet 03/15/22 (mwmw): Still Not working 03/11/22 (samsindall): not working | 6/5/22 | Moritz |
50 | Access on left 50 yards after you walk below a picnic table on the left or from the road N of the store. Three water sources here: 1) On SW side of loop at end of road [nearest PCT] is a small, two car parking pad. To left & forward a bit is a heavy metal pipe with faucet in small concrete circle, right next to a big tree. This faucet reported to be insulated and should be on year round. 2) Drinking faucet next to restrooms. 3) Sink in restrooms. Water is off in the restrooms during the winter. | ||||||
51 | A6 | 42.6 | WR043 | **Desert View Picnic Area ------- There is a spigot located 100 yards uphill from the restrooms. | 05/09/22 (Semi): Spigot running. 05/03/22 (Yellowbear): Spigot Working 04/15/22 (bhartman30): easy fresh water, restrooms still locked | 5/10/22 | Semi |
52 | A6 | 47.5 | LagunaCG | **Laguna Campground [7/10 mi SW] | 06/03/22 (Moritz): Spigots are on 03/25/22 (emmor): campground is open, quarters needed for shower | 6/5/22 | Moritz |
53 | Leave trail near wooden overlook. Total walk to the campground and back to the faucet is one mile round trip. | ||||||
54 | A6 | 47.8 | Oasis Spring [1/2 mi down] | 07/30/22 (tx...2811): Flowing a heavy trickle. Water is cold. Source hidden in dense greens (did not see any oak) but is near trail and audible. Trail to spring is overgrown. | 07/30/22 | tx...2811 | |
55 | A6 | 48.7 | WR049 | GATR faucet [1/10 mi W of PCT] Also known as Penny Pines | 04/15/23 (birdie<3): still off 04/09/23 (tx...8264) faucet is still off. There was two flows flowing just before I crossed at the bottom of the hill. 04/05/23 (Erin): water is off 03/25/23 (devilfish): faucet still off 09/23/22 (Larry S): Water is off 05/10/22 (Postal): spigot still on 04/21/22 (tx...4431): Water spigot is working | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish |
56 | GATR road in WP guidebook is now a trail. At Penny Pines there are 2 trails to the W toward Sunrise Hwy. The S trail is the most direct. Both trails are marked with Carsonite posts with a Noble Canyon Trail decal. Go 100 yards straight; then 50 yards across Sunrise Hwy to trough and faucet. Water system is filled by portable generator and subject to outage. | ||||||
57 | A7 | 52.6 | WR053 | Pioneer Mail Picnic Area ------------ Trough located behind the signs as you go through the picnic area and back to the trail. 04/30/21: Trail Angel 'Ghost' Ran into Brandon and Amber who are the Trail Runners working for USFS to check permits and trail conditions. He spoke with them about the tank here and water at Penny Pines... encouraging them to say something to their bosses about getting water to these two sources. We are all hoping these fostered relations will help in the long run. Thanks Ghost! ~woodglue | 04/13/23 (rscook87): spigot is running 03/25/23 (devilfish): trough full, (grosser than sunrise), lower faucet works 11/15/22 (Bryan): Trough full, water is green but filters clear 11/03/22 (tx5222): There was near-freezing water in the basin, thick with algae and cloudy, but useful if desperate. 05/25/22 (Hugo G): Tank has been topped off. Water is good. 05/19/22 (Hugo G): Be advised that the water tank is close to empty. 05/10/22 (Postal): spigot still on 05/03/22 (Yellowbear): Spigot Working | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish |
58 | At north end of parking area is a trough fed from a water tank [limited supply]. This tank is filled from a fire truck. Filter or treat the water before drinking. | ||||||
59 | A7 | 57.6 | Oriflamme Cyn [usually dry] | 04/16/23 (birdie<3): flowing nicely 03/24/23 (michellekelsey): still flowing strong | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish | |
60 | A8 | 59.5 | WRCS059 | *Sunrise Trailhead [1/2 mi W] ----- Go directly to the trough, operate red handle for water. If no water check that valve on right side of tank is open (handle in line with pipe), in case someone has turned it off. ---- Parking area has a spigot with good water (filter to be safe) during most of the year. Pit toilet available. | 03/25/23 (devilfish): trough full, some floaters 11/25/22 (Leo O): Dropped off 4 gallons water at Sunrise/PCT, 4 gallons water at Sunrise trail head and 4 gallons water at parking lot across Sunrise trailhead 11/15/22 (Bryan): Horse trough full of relatively clear water. 05/10/22 (Semi): Lots of water. Can hear the tank filling from the pump. 04/17/22 (munni): lots of water here, next Nobo source is mm68.4 04/11/22 (Geared Up): Water is working from the tank. | 3/28/23 | Devilfish |
61 | Follow the trail marked with the sign "Sunrise Highway .25 Mi" on a post that travels along the 5,000-foot contour 1/4 mile SW to the highway. Across the highway to the South is a parking lot and outhouse. To W a well and tank are visible. Follow the old road marked "La Cima Trail" W 1/8 mile past the corrals to well. | ||||||
62 | A8 | 62.4 | WR062 | Mason Valley Truck Trail [fire tank 75 yds E, usually dry] ----------------------- Tank was reported empty in May2020 & Mar2021 | 04/15/23 (mrswhite): no water at tank, valve capped 03/24/23 (michellekelsey): tank dry. water flowing in creek downhill at 63.7 04/15/22 (jsong): dry 03/24/22 (keta): my husband pulled out a dead animal body from the water. whether it was a squirrel, not sure. | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish |
63 | A8 | 63.7 | WR064A, B, C | Upper Chariot Cyn [0.8, 1.2 & 1.4 mi N] - usually dry | 03/24/23 (michellekelsey): water flowing 04/19/22 (uconn): 0.8 off is dry 03/12/22 (tallboy): 0.8: puddle in the road no flow; 1.2: a few inches of water inaccessible inside of underground cement tank; 1.8: dry | 3/28/23 | via Devilfish |
64 | When you reach unpaved Chariot Canyon Rd go right to stay on the PCT. If you turn left you will go N down Chariot Canyon to possible seasonal water. WR064a is a seasonal creek crossing Chariot Canyon Rd, shade, 8/10 mile N of the PCT [2/10 mile N of the StatePark boundary sign]. WR064b is a Fire Tank, 1.2 miles N of the PCT. WR064c is Seasonal Chariot Canyon Spring, 1.4 miles N of the PCT [spring is on the W side of the road hidden from view by several large oak trees]. | ||||||
65 | WARNING 08/23/21 from Thaddaeus: Between mm68.5 and mm71 there are a lot of areas that do not have clear markings, with about 5 sections of narrow trail that are completely washed out. The trail ends and begins again. In the dark this can turn you around and make for slow going. There is also a lot of loose gravel near the trail’s edge in that section that can make nighttime traversing long and dangerous. Trekking poles are a must to test the looseness of the washouts. | ||||||
66 | A9 | 68.4 | WRCS068 | **Rodriguez Spur Truck Tr [Concrete fire tank visible 75 ft W] - We are especially interested in water reports about this location. Please send info. Please place jug back under slow dripping faucet once done so that the next hiker has water in the jug when they get here. There is a tiny (1cm length) black lever on the underside spigot pipe that turns on the water IF the tank is not dry. - This water source went dry multiple times in 2018, 2019, 04~05/2020, 05/2021 plan accordingly as the next water source (in both directions) is a long distance from here. Please turn the knobs/valves off as hard as you can to minimize the leaking drips. - Note from the water cache maintainer here --> "Please take only what you need to go the 8 miles down to Scissor Crossing. This cache is seasonal and not intended for fill up." | 04/15/23 (hikingchick): 75% full 03/25/23 (lathersoutside): water flowing from spigot 11/16/22 (Bryan): Water flowing well from spigot 11/04/22 (tx..5222): Spigot was on. 10/08/22 (Ghost): 5287 gallons of water in tank 09/23/22 (Larry S): water flowing at faucet and about ¼ tank left in cement tank above 08/04/22 (Erin G): Tank has water 06/04/22 (Moritz): Spigot is on (Bees) 05/10/22 (Postal): Water still on. There are definitely bees right next to the spigot, so this source is best accessed in the evening. 05/04/22 (Yellowbear): Spigot Working 04/28/22 (Spinymouse): Good water source. Watch out for bees. 04/26/22 (Woo): water flowing slowly from the spigot near the road. Fire tank seems to have water sitting around 3-4 feet below the steel covering. I cannot tell how deep the tank is. | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish |
67 | A9 | 68.4 | WR068B | Spring on Rodriguez Spur Truck Trail, 1.1 miles NW of PCT ----- Note: If spring is not flowing and you don't have enough to make Scissors Crossing, continue 2.2 miles down Rodriguez Spur Truck Trail to HWY 78. Banner Store is across the highway to the East about 200 feet. Water is available and hitching is easy to either Julian or Scissors Crossing. | 09/23/22 (Larry S): Spring is flowing well and overflowing the trough 05/18/21 (Devilfish): The spring 1.1 miles downhill is still flowing well, 2L/Min. The road there down to banner is all public access, even though there are a couple of gates on it, they are not locked and you can proceed through them. https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=3935819936454611&set=oa.152570456688674 | 09/23/22 | Larry S |
68 | Spring on Rodriguez Spur Truck Trail, 1.1 miles NW of PCT, 70 feet from the large rust colored water tank. | ||||||
69 | E. coli reared it's ugly head multiple times in the Mount Laguna area in the past. Please treat all water sources in this area. | ||||||
70 | A10 | 77.0 | WRCS077 | Scissors Crossing [Cache under the highway bridge] ----- Stagecoach Trails Cg and Cabins 4 miles SE on Hwy S2. Store open till 5pm. NOTE : times can vary dependent on time of year. 01/08/21 (Paul): Sign posted at trailhead states that store is open Tuesday - Saturday 9AM - 5PM. Tent camping, showers and laundry open, but not cabins or deli. Sign looks recent, but did not confirm this info. | 04/11/23 (Mustard): Approx 30 gallons 03/22/23 (professor): 15 gallons and some gatorade 02/15/23 (St Alfonzo) 20 gals at this cache 11/16/22 (Bryan): Cache down to about 4 gallons 11/04/22 (tx..5222): 5 gallons of water. 10/08/22 (Ghost): 9 gallons of water. 09/24/22 (Ghost): 5 1/2 gallons of water under the bridge 09/23/22 (Larry S): cache is down to 6 gallons 06/08/22 (Professor): 16 gallons. 06/05/22 (Moritz): About 10 Gallons left 05/28/22 (Goldenrod): 15 gallons 05/05/22 (Yellowbear): ~ 20 Gallons 04/28/22 (Monty Tam): cache looked restocked | 4/11/23 | Mustard |
71 | A10 | 77.1 | San Felipe Creek, Hwy 78 [.24 miles W bridge, often dry] | 04/12/23 (Mustard): San Felipe is dry 09/23/22 (Larry S): Creek is dry 03/22/22 (Byron): Dry | 4/12/23 | Mustard | |
72 | 03/30/21 (Hell Bent): Bee Hive and swarming at mm90.2, swarming on the rocks on the Nobo right. | ||||||
73 | A11 | 91.2 | WRCS091 | Third Gate Cache [1/4 mi E] 3 Liter Max /person posted Its just 10 miles to Barrel Spring (mm101.1). Venmo=ThirdGateWaterCache Public Access to Private Property: This Third Gate Cache is located on Private Property. Trying to access the cache by car without authorization from the property owner could prompt the private property owners to refuse use of the site for caching in future. Even if the cache goes dry, unauthorized people can not be refilling it. | 05/25/23 (Bill D): we added water to the cache yesterday. There should be plenty of water for the rest of the NOBO season. 04/12/23 (kicker&trip): cache refilled this morning 04/11/23 (Mustard): 1.25 pallets left 03/17/23 (jimmyjamhikes): 4 pallets 03/12/23 (Rabbit): Cache was well stocked 11/16/22 (Bill&Jan): 115 gallons available 11/05/22 (Tx..5222): 100-150 gallons | 5/25/23 | Bill D |
74 | The 3rd Gate water team is distressed by having to clean up hikers’ poop and toilet paper. Please practice “leave no trace” principles. The 3rd Gate water cache is ¼ mile E down a side trail with “Water” sign. Take only what you need to hike 9.9 miles to Barrel Spring. If the cache runs out, the cistern has water. NO FIRES. Carry out your trash and toilet paper, bury poop 6 inches. Be alert. Mountain lions reside in the San Felipe Hills and throughout California. Only approach Grapevine Ranch buildings in an emergency. Vehicles are not allowed on the ranch without prior permission from owner. | ||||||
75 | A11 | 91.2 | WR091B | Underground Cistern [6/10 mi E] To be used only if there is no water at 3rd Gate water cache. | 03/21/22 (gdellema): plenty of water | 3/30/22 | via Devilfish |
76 | Follow the dirt road leading from the water cache about 4/10 mile to where the road turns right(E) but go left (N/NW) on an old unmarked trail for 1/10 mile to the underground cistern containing untreated water (a rope and bucket are supplied). | ||||||
77 | A12 | 101.1 | WRCS101 | *Barrel Spring ------- ALWAYS filter due to possible contamination at the source | 04/15/23 (zgonsalves1): flowing good 03/22/23 (thenotsolonelyroad): secondhand report of a hiker washing their underwear in the lower trough, gather water from the pipe. 03/13/23 (Rabbit): spring has nice clear water coming out of pipe. 11/16/22 (Bill&Jan): running with low flow (< 1 liter/min) 11/06/22 (Tx..5222): Flowing 06/08/22 (Professor): Low flow 1 liter/minutes. Through is full of clearwater. 05/07/22 (Yellowbear): Flowing < 1 L/min | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish |
78 | A12 | 104 | WR104 | Cattle Trough [2/10 mi NE, visible from PCT] | 06/08/22 (Professor): slow flow .5l/m into 6" of mostly clear water. | 6/8/22 | Professor |
79 | A12 | 104.4 | WR105 | Concrete trough below mouth of San Ysidro Creek [2/10 mi W] | 06/08/22 (Professor): very strong flow 4l/m of clear water bubbling from pipe into 12" of green slime. 03/14/22 (kiyattle): there's water here but i wouldn't drink it even after filtering | 6/8/22 | Professor |
80 | A13 | 105.0 | WRCS105B | *San Ysidro Creek ================ Lots of cattle in this area, be sure to treat water. | 04/12/23 (Mustard): flowing strong and clear 03/24/23 (amalewhale): good flow but a bit muddy. stream flowing 200 m north of here has much clearer water 03/13/23 (Rabbit): creek flowing strong but murky 10/22/22 (Trenchfoot): Flowing nicely 06/08/22 (Professor): Good flow 3-4 liters/minute. Creek sinks about 1/4 downsteam though. May dry up in a few weeks. 05/29/22 (Goldenrod): steady stream. 05/11/22 (Aidan S): good flow | 4/12/23 | Mustard |
81 | A13 | 106.2 | WR106 | Eagle Rock Spring | 03/17/22 (woodglue): Vista Irrigation District confirms PCT hikers are not permitted to access the water source at mm106.2 any longer. They ask that in this area, hikers stay on the trail and not use the Ranch Roads. 03/07/22 (PCTA, A.Kass): the PCT is on an easement through that area. The easement is 10 feet wide (5 feet on each side of centerline). It’s an incredibly small (narrow) easement. Both Eagle Rock and the water source are off the easement and on private land (held by Vista Irrigation District). I’ve read the easement, there does not seem to be any provisions for access to the water (or the rock). What I infer is that the “no trespassing” sign does apply to hikers, equestrians and anyone who isn’t affiliated with Vista Irrigation District. If I hear otherwise, I’ll be sure to let you know. 03/06/22 (woodglue): PCT Water Report volunteers contacted the PCTA for additional information on the new Trespassing sign. 02/20/22 (Trenchfoot): No Trespassing sign now posted going into this area https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=4852382151465047&set=oa.945297872769859 | 3/17/22 | Vista Irrigation District |
82 | A13 | 106.2 | WR106B | Water Tank [visible 2/10 mi S of PCT at Eagle Rock] -------------------------------------------- Closed Source Vista Irrigation District confirms PCT hikers are not permitted to access the water source at mm106.2 any longer. In this area, hikers stay on the trail and not use the Ranch Roads. | |||
83 | A13 | 107.9 | WR108 | Canada Verde Maybe better access at mile 108.2 or 108.6 | 03/12/23 (Rabbit): flowing strong with better access after mile 108 | 3/13/23 | Rabbit |
84 | A13 | 108.2 | Canada Verde
Maybe better access at mm108.6 | 03/12/23 (Rabbit): flowing strong | 3/13/23 | Rabbit | |
85 | A13 | 109.5 | Hwy79 | Hwy 79 [1st crossing, small seasonal creek nearby] | 01/21/23 (Erin G): stream was running 02/28/22 (Spencer): Dry | 2/7/23 | Erin G |
86 | Warner Springs Community about 100 yards east of PCT on the N side of Hwy 79. 08/02/21 (Larry): From PCT into Town, Nobo hikers use the California Riding And Hiking Trail, thereby avoiding the dangerous Highway/pavement walk to post-office. From Town back to PCT (Nobo), use the California Riding and Hiking Trail by walking to Stage Road 1/8th mile from post-office and approach the Chappel-on-the-Hill for restrooms and water faucets. Then continue OFF Pavement to the PCT, paralleling Hwy 79 heading west. | ||||||
87 | A13 | 109.5 | **Warner Springs [small town,1.2 mi NE of PCT]; WS Resource Center at the 1st PCT crossing of Hwy 79 across from the Fire Station is Closed to hiker camping. | 02/19/23 (Erin G): Dry 05/13/22 (Aidan S): spigot still on 02/28/22 (Spencer): Spigot is on at the Community Center. | 2/22/23 | Erin G | |
88 | 03/12/22 (WSCRC): The Resource Center offers 2022 Self Service Hiker Services (Outdoors). Days/Hours: Monday – Friday 3 – 7 pm, Weekends 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. Services: (If donations can offset our costs) Bucket Showers/Bucket Laundry, Recharging, WiFi, Porta-Potties, Trash services (dumpster), Potable Water, No Camping, No Alcohol, No Smoking, No Open Fires. Suggested Donation - $5 per service (to help off-set expenses) Donation boxes on grounds. https://sites.google.com/view/warnerspringscenter/pacific-crest-trail/thru-hikers 3/26/18 (Scott) : There have already been two pedestrian fatalities on the road through Warner Springs since the beginning of 2018 - not hikers, but a reminder that roadwalk is actually the most dangerous part of the thru hike. So, the Warner Springs Community Resource Center has asked us not to walk the road to the post office/grill/gas station.A trail marked w/pink ribbon goes from the resource center .75 miles to those locations (saving about .25 miles). Cross the parking lot, go through the athletic fields (you'll see the yellow goalpost), follow the trail to the top of the hill where you run into the golf course, and go right on the dirt road, soon hugging the fenceline, until you see the horse enclosure where you turn left, crossing the edge of the golf course (including travel over a sidewalk that disappears and reappears). You'll see the grill first, and the gas station and post office are just next door. | ||||||
89 | A13 | 109.5 | PO0110 | Warner Springs PO | 3/11/21 | WSCRC | |
90 | CA Section B: Warner Springs to Highway 10 | ||||||
91 | PCT CA SECTION B WEBSITE --> https://pctcalsectionb.com/ | ||||||
92 | B1 | 111.4 | Hwy79b | Highway 79 [2nd crossing, Agua Caliente Creek] | 03/13/23 (Rabbit): all 5 crossing of aqua caliente have big flow, is murky. Wetcrossings. 02/19/23 (Erin G): Dry 01/21/23 (Erin G): water was running | 3/13/23 | Rabbit |
93 | 02/15/21 (SunnyD): The trail is pretty overgrown from mm112~mm116 with a lot of downed trees. Lost the trail a few times. | ||||||
94 | B1 | 112.6 | WR113 | Agua Caliente Creek [near picnic tables] | 04/07/23 (jessicaa): a foot deep 03/25/23 (davew): about knee deep 03/13/23 (Rabbit): all 5 crossing of aqua caliente have big flow, is murky. Wetcrossings. 07/23/22 (Monty T): Dry 05/14/22 (Aidan S): good flow | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish |
95 | B1 | 114.7 | WR115 | Agua Caliente Creek | 04/15/23 (geoni): too difficult to rock hop 03/17/23 (haz'n'mol): 5 river crossings, knee deep, in next mile 03/13/23 (Rabbit): all 5 crossing of aqua caliente have big flow, is murky. Wetcrossings. 07/23/22 (Monty T): Dry 05/14/22 (Aidan S): good flow | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish |
96 | B1 | 115.5 | WR115B | *Agua Caliente Creek [last crossing] | 04/13/23 (jfricher): crossed on the rocks and only got my toes wet 03/26/23 (cac): the deepest, mid thigh 03/13/23 (Rabbit): all 5 crossing of aqua caliente have big flow, is murky. Wetcrossings 07/23/22 (Monty T): Dry 05/14/22 (Aidan S): good flow 04/25/22 (Leo O): Good Flow | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish |
97 | B2 | 116.1 | Another stream that feeds into Agua Caliente Creek | 04/14/23 (ellensarah): strong flow of water 03/13/23 (Rabbit): flowing and easily collectible. | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish | |
98 | B2 | 119.6 | WR120 | *Lost Valley Spring [0.2 mi off trail] ~ 4,360 Ft The spring is 300 yds off trail and 80 ft lower in elevation. Trail signed - look for 3 foot high cement post, then follow the abandoned road downhill 0.2 mi. (PCT turns right before post.) This water source went dry in: -May 2020. | 06/04/23 (KevinC): trough is full, stream just past the spring is running at about 1L/30 sec 04/14/23 (cowbell-germany): spring barely dripping, creek flowing strong 03/18/23 (trailhead): stagnant water in trough, yuck, flowing water 100 m ahead | 6/4/23 | KevinC |
99 | 03/13/23 (Rabbit): There's still snow in patches on northern aspects of ridge north of Agua caliente creek > 5k feet. 02/24/23 ( www.sanjacjon.com ): Snowshoes are recommended everywhere with snow above 4000 ft, potentially lower in places, and spikes are invaluable anywhere that has been cleared or compacted. I hope to provide more information on the high country situation on Sunday 26th, depending on conditions/weather. | ||||||
100 | B2 | 123.6 | Small Well https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=3830566950313244&set=oa.452770786136426 | 11/07/21 (Mike Z): Six inches of water 05/17/21 (ancarter): about 12" of water which is refilling. Sign on trail directs hikers to it. Just above trail. | 11/7/21 | Mike Z | |
101 | B2 | 123.7 | Seasonal Stream | 03/25/23 (toddlersnacks): still flowing 03/13/23 (Rabbit): there was water flowing in the stream. 03/01/22 (Spencer): Dry. | 3/28/23 | via Devilfish | |
102 | B2 | 127.3 | WR127 | Lost Valley Scout water-cache | 06/04/23 (KevinC): Cache is empty | 6/4/23 | KevinC |
103 | B2 | 127.3 | WR127B | **"Mike's Place" @ Chihuahua Valley Rd [water tank 2/10 mile E] Donations requested. | 06/04/23 (KevinC): Water is available from the tank 03/26/23 (tracy_l): tank is once again full | 6/4/23 | KevinC |
104 | A trail has been cut about 1/4 mile South of Chihuahua Valley Rd that will bring hikers down to the tank so they don't have to do the road walk both ways. 0.2 mi E to driveway 31440 Chihuahua Valley Rd, then 0.1 m N to private NEW water tank above house. "water in tank should be filtered. If no water in tank there should be water on back porch - go through hole in fence next to water tank and down the trail to house there is a netted porch to keep the bugs off, and a shower out side." per Mike Herrera at the house. He is very eager to meet and assist hikers, they are welcome to stop by his place. (This is not an invitation to go in his house!) | ||||||
105 | B4 | 136.5 | WR137 | Tule Creek [early season] ----- In 2017 & 2023 multiple hikers got sick shortly after drinking water from the creek below the fire tank at Tule Spring. Both reported filtering the water, but not treating it chemically. | 06/04/23 (KevinC): Water in the stream is trickling. Think I got the runs from drinking the stream water. 04/16/23 (Mustard): there's water 04/15/23 (xieonne): silty water, a couple mini waterfalls to fill from 03/15/23 (Rabbit): Stream was a muddy torrent after storm | 06/04/23 | KevinC |
106 | B4 | 137.0 | WR137B | Tule Spring & Fire Tank [Tule Canyon Rd, 0.25 mi SE] ----- Be sure to close the valve tightly to minimize leaks. In 2017 multiple hikers got sick shortly after drinking water from the creek below the fire tank at Tule Spring. Both reported filtering the water, but not treating it chemically. Report of feces found in the fire tank in 2018, be sure to filter and treat water from this source. | 06/04/23 (KevinC): never found the actual spring. 2” valve below the big tank is dry. 04/13/23 (fallingstar): great flow from the hydrant | 06/04/23 | KevinC |
107 | B4 | 139.5 | WR140 | Guzzler ----- Top of Guzzler is fragile & unsafe. Dont' stand on it. Be sure to treat this water as multiple reports state dead animals have been found inside the guzzler over multiple years. | 04/16/23 (Mustard): Water at the guzzler 04/12/23 (sarahandsol): tons of water 03/15/23 (Rabbit): cistern was full and just fine. | 04/16/23 | Mustard |
108 | B4 | 140.2 | WRCS140B | Nance Canyon [usually dry] | 04/07/23 (dr_kat): dry 04/21/22 (Gadget): dry | 04/17/23 | via Devilfish |
109 | B4 | 143.1 | RD0143 | Table Mtn Truck Trail AKA Sandy Jeep Road | 06/04/23 (KevinC): there’s a cache with 1/2 gallon available. 03/01/22 (Spencer): No cache. 01/16/22 (Trenchfoot & Gap): No cache seen | 06/04/23 | KevinC |
110 | B4 | 145.4 | **Hiker Oasis (a.k.a Mary’s Oasis Cache), (a.k.a Marys' Place), on private land about 50 feet off trail. --------------------------- The PCT Hiker Oasis at mile 145.4 on my private land will be closing effective June 15, 2023. As of that date, there will be no water or other hiker amenities. Please update PCTwater accordingly, so hikers can plan. Thank you, “Trail Angel” Mary | 05/09/23 (“Trail Angel” Mary): The PCT hiker oasis at mile 145.4 on my private land will be closing effective June 15, 2023. As of that date, there will be no water or other hiker amenities. Please plan accordingly. Thank you. Mary, Over the years, you have proven to relentlessly support with resource, compassion, education and 'a very nice place' to the Nobo and Sobo hikers. Thank you for all that you've brought to the trail and it's people. You will be sorely missed. Godspeed, ~woodglue 04/16/23 (Mustard): there was water at Mary's Oasis. I met her and she said she may be ending her angeling this year, but is committed for the next few months 04/15/23 (scuttlebutt): 30 gallons left 03/15/23 (Rabbit): tank was full. Mary had arrived at her cottage for hiker season just a couple of days before. 10/23/22 (TRAILANGELMARY) Theft of hiker water tank! I was alerted via email by a hiker that something weird was going on at my hiker oasis. Another hiker who arrived on October 15 found the tank nearly empty and tipped forward to drain the last bit of water out. My security cameras showed a vehicle driving up my driveway in the wee hours of 10/14-15. A friend who went to check on things on October 15 found the big 550 gallon tank gone, along with a very large number of other, non-hiker-related things on the property. — Total replacement cost of the stolen items is around $15,000. — Ouch! I brought a small (65-gallon) tank over and filled it. 10/14/22 (tx...8637): water tank is empty. Found today tipped off ledge, faucet closed but per previous hiker found open upon arrival yesterday | 05/09/23 | “Trail Angel” Mary | |
111 | B5 | 151.9 | Hwy74 | Pines-to-Palms Hwy 74 [*Paradise Valley Cafe, 1 mi W, water only available when cafe is open] http://theparadisevalleycafe.com/ | 03/17/23 (Rabbit): Great water from trailhead at 74 until stream 4 miles in (155.6). Then dry 4 miles when a couple of seasonal melt waters appeared 05/16/22 (Aidan S): spigot still on 05/09/22 (Yellowbear): Spigot Working 04/26/22 (Leo O): PV Cafe Spigot On 04/16/22 (Geared Up): Outside water working again | 03/19/23 | Rabbit |
112 | MOUNT SAN JACINTO SNOW CONDITIONS WEBSITE --> https://sanjacjon.com/ Visit the PCT Water Report Snow Report page (below the other report pages on pctwater.com) for more info on Mount San Jacinto snow. | ||||||
113 | B6 | 155.4 | Penrod Cyn [usually dry] | 04/16/23 (walkingwithwalker): good flow with a deep pool 02/20/23 (dmwheeler): good clean water flowing | 04/17/23 | via devilfish | |
114 | B6 | 158.4 | WR158 | *Live Oak Spring [1.0 mi E] =================== Lots of space to stop for a night. | 04/14/23 (oliviadawnshan): easy water source 05/10/22 (Yellowbear): Flowing < 1 L/min | 04/17/23 | via devilfish |
115 | Descend from saddle on trail 1 mile to metal tub fed by metal pipe in middle of trail. | ||||||
116 | B6 | 158.4 | WR158B | *Tunnel Spring [0.3 mi W] | 04/15/23 (dmwheeler): trough was full, spring was flowing at a trickle 03/20/23 (haz'n'mol): small trickle from the pipe, but there are several small streams within the next 4 miles to avoid the 30 minute detour 05/18/22 (Semi): Cool from pipe, flow apx 1L/min. 05/06/22 (Spinymouse): Good water today | 04/17/23 | via devilfish |
117 | There is no sign for Tunnel Spring trail junction but there is an obvious trail to the west of the PCT. If you pass the Cedar Spring sign (NOBO) you have gone too far. Make sure you take the RIGHT fork of the trail once you reach the bottom. Spring is 40 yards upstream along use trail and dry creek. The trough is slowly fed from spring by pipe. Most report a sulfur taste. Steep trail down to the spring.
---------- If you head about 150 feet NE from the trough; low on the east embankment of the dry creek bed you will find an opening (about 2' wide X 1.5' high) to the tunnel. Inside is a long, narrow, shallow pool filled with GREAT tasting cool water. The only caveat: the bottom of the pool is very fine, easily disturbed sediment. You will need a long suction tube on your filter system and some means of getting the business end of the tube far into the tunnel. Use a long stick or a trekking pole to get the tube placed in the middle, and raised off the bottom of the pool. Harold on 6/20/13 | ||||||
118 | B7 | 162.6 | WR162 | *Cedar Spring [Trail 4E17, 1 mi N] see directions below | 04/08/23 (mikeb225): snow melt streams half way to water source 10/26/22 (Lonewalker): I rebuilt and replaced the missing galvanized tap to the cattle trough. Water now flowing into the trough at 1/2 liter/min. I added a leaf filter to keep the tap from clogging with leaves. 05/17/22 (Aidan S): water still trickling in second creek bed. Don’t be afraid to climb into what looks like a mud pit. Less than 1L/min. | 4/17/23 | via Devilfish |
119 | 4/12/19 (Lonewalker) : Reliable water at Cedar Spring is located approx 100' due west of camp, up the ravine. There you will find a 200 gallon, green cattle trough along a use trail, fed by a tap from an open spring box. A dipping pool approx 6" deep and 2' x 2' is located 15 feet up canyon from the cattle trough, if needed. | ||||||
120 | Nobo Hikers: Trail Closure Ahead 03/17/23 (PCTA): Mount San Jacinto State Park has closed their backcountry areas, including the PCT from mm183.3 to mm188.8. https://www.pcta.org/discover-the-trail/closures/southern-california/san-jacinto-state-park-closure/ | ||||||
121 | B7 | 163.3 | WR163 | Eagle Spring [1/4 mi S, seasonal] | 03/19/23 (mads_egedal): dry 05/23/21 (micah adams): not worth. tough bushwacking to get there and no drinkable water | 3/28/23 | via Devilfish |
122 | Seasonal. 3/4 mile N past Cedar Spr jct, where PCT becomes 10' wide on a ridge "hogback", on left a 2" dia 4'tall white PVC post, ~6-8' off on a side trail, marked "Eagle Spring, 1/4" with an arrow pointing W (easy to miss as sign got burned during a fire). Trail is reasonably clear as of 6/2/18, however a little rocky in spots. At a lone Spruce tree at dry creekbed, trail resumes past tree thru small overgrown section of trail another 300' to deadend at a 200 gallon cattle trough, perched on hillside, with horizontal pipe tap drizzling into it. [In past rarely used] HIKER ACCESS: If problem tap is clogged, or tank either stagnant or dry, access Spring Box directly. 15' directly behind tank is pile of large rocks. At the center is a 25 lb 9"x9" nearly square stone, 5" thick. CAREFULLY remove the stone and set it to side. Under it is 4"x12" slot between large rock slabs that access natural rock spring box holding 5-7 gallons of fresh water. The slot is large enough to dip a quart bottle. REINSTALL & ALLIGN the square stone back over access slot to keep frequent cows away from water. Note: Lion Spring the other side of PCT is dismantled and dry. | ||||||
123 | 05/09/20 (Erin & Kenei): Equestrian obstacles. 4 downed trees in the neighborhood of mm165.6 | ||||||
124 | B7 | 166.5 | FobesRanchTr | Fobes Saddle Seasonal Streams (0.5 mi & 1.5 mi S) | 03/24/23 (dvvpct): started postholing at 158, knee to thigh deep. downed trees beneath the snow. 03/17/23 (Rabbit): Fobes is best exit for those without mountaineering experience. | 3/28/23 | via Devilfish |
125 | 6/6/19 (John & Emily) : Route to spring is 115 feet along (slightly down) the Fobes Trail, on the right side. The trail follows a gentle down grade down 235 feet in elevation. The total distance to the spring is a hair shy of 1 km. Spring is at UTM 11S 535615 3728210 4/12/19 (Lonewalker) : From Fobes Saddle, walk a short distance down Fobes Trail, West. A thin use trail will take off to the Right, heading essentially North for .5 miles and sometimes marked by a small sign that says "water". The trail leads to a dead end dirt road from Fobes Ranch. Walk down the deteriorated dirt road approx 100' to a spring box and large blue rubbermaid bucket, fed by a forest service tap. Good flat spot to camp. | ||||||
126 | B8 | 168.6 | Spring-Spt | Small spring 0.9 mi W of PCT on Spitler to Idyllwild alternate ------- Elevation: 7,047ft | 03/17/23 (Rabbit): First 2 miles down great flow in multiple places including trail! I had ice axe and hiking crampons (and experience). Definitely needed ice ax to get around spitler. 03/27/22 (catbrott): water about a mile down the trail from the top and at the trailhead | 3/19/23 | Rabbit |
127 | B8 | 169.2 | WRCS169 | Apache Spring (Trail DOWN ~0.7 mi E) ----- 3 x 3 foot spring box, steep rocky trail down to it. | 06/04/22 (Martha): Spring Box full, with trickling run off. 04/27/22 (Leo O): Water Box Full 04/18/22 (laurensnl): it's fine, the pool is full with water, tastes fine 04/08/22 (Smith): Box is full, easy scooping. Bees in the area 03/31/22 (amandainthemountains): good water smells weird tastes fine, need to scoop but plenty to scoop from. 03/17/22 (wargh1000): Pool is still full of cold, clear water. Still overflowing. | 6/6/22 | Martha |
128 | B8 | 177.2 | WR177 | Tahquitz Creek | 06/14/23 (Lonewalker): Rapid flow, 3' wide x 6" deep. Strong and clear 04/07/23 (thing1): covered with snow | 6/20/23 | Lonewalker |
129 | B8 | 177.3 | TqtzValTr | Little Tahquitz Valley (Trail, 0.33 mi N) | 06/14/23 (Lonewalker): Though the spring box for the tap is underwater and water logged, the tap is only producing 8 oz per minute. Tap is likely clogged with debris. The ravine that supports the spring box and tap 10' north, is full of water and flowing. 6/13/17 (Lonewalker) : In Tahquitz Valley (Tahquitz Meadow), the Forest Service water tap is ~200 yds past Tahquitz Creek. As you walk North from the creek, look for a large log to your right (east) about 60' off the trail in the meadow. Walk towards it. When you get to the log, turn L (due north). You will hear water gurgling about 10' from the north tip of the log. Look down and you will see a 1" pvc tap from which water is running. If you miss the log from the trail and hit the 4 way junction (which will take you to Saddle Junction), walk back south approx 100 yards back towards the meadow. You will pass through a small, shaded ravine on your way back. The log will appear in the meadow just past that ravine, now on your L. | 6/20/23 | Lonewalker |
130 | PCT Hiker David O'Sullivan (Class of 2017) went missing in this area in 2017 (somewhere between Idyllwild & Big Bear). Any information you have on this topic, please contact Cathy Tarr at 703-334-1770 or via email at catarr210@aol.com | ||||||
131 | B9 | 179.4 | SaddleJct | Idyllwild 4.5 mi W of Saddle Junction | |||
132 | The Idyllwild Public Library [951-659-2300] prints free copies of the Water Report for hikers. The library is located near the center of town in Strawberry Creek Plaza with the Post Office, grocery store, pharmacy, natural food store, & Pizza Co.The library also has computers, wi-fi, paperback books. Trail register at the Post Office. | ||||||
133 | These reports are provided as a free service to PCT hikers. I believe the information is accurate but the reports may contain errors. The reports are distributed in the hope that they will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. |