#saass transcript - June 25 2012
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lmendersbyOfficially welcoming everyone to the #saass chat. Please take a moment to say hello!
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AD_TO@lmendersby hello! #Saass
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lmendersby@AD_TO Hello Adnan! Happy to have you join us. #saass
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AD_TO@lmendersby glad to be here =) #saass
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MattDeegNuking my lunch in prep for our chat. Matt Deeg at Univ. of North Florida. #saass
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lmendersbyFirst time joining the #saass chat? Follow the hashtag at http://t.co/aG0lnSuj or http://t.co/XOHyzacY. First question coming up soon!
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lmendersbyI'll be tweeting questions labelled as Q1, Q2, etc. Don't forget to include the question number in your response. #saass
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lmendersbyToday's topic is 'Asking the Right Questions.' Coming up with questions for this chat was a little meta. #saass
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jeff_burrow1st time using twitterfall and #saass chat Jeff from the University of Toronto.
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lmendersbyQ1: Do you write questions for the answers you want or for the answers you need? What's the difference? Is there one? #saass
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lmendersby@jeff_burrow Good to have you here Jeff! Thanks for joining us today. #saass
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stephaniemzStephanie, Iowa State. Late b/c I was doing an assessment of our library website. #saass
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MattDeegQ1: There's definitely a difference. You can construct an assessment to get whatever you want. #saass
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AD_TOA1: I prefer to ask questions for stuff I need, things that would help build me. I can always fulfil wants later #saass @Imendersby
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stephaniemzQ1: Should be for what you need...but I think people ask what they want. #saass
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lmendersby@stephaniemz Good to have you here Stephanie! We can't blame you for being late if you're on official assessment business. :) #saass
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rossmcmillan@jeff_burrow check out tweetchat as well for these sorts of things ... I find it quite useful
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MattDeegQ1: Need vs. want - difference is in leaving the subjectiveness behind and eliminating leading questions. #saass
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AD_TOA1: Wants vs Needs: Stuff you have an interest in versus stuff that will add value to you for a long time #saass @Imendersby
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jeff_burrowQ1. Hope for 'b', but wary of 'a'. For me diff is the willingness to hear uncomfortable responses and letting data speak for itself #saass
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MattDeegRT @AD_TO: A1: Wants vs Needs: Stuff you have an interest in versus stuff that will add value to you for a long time #saass
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stephaniemzQ1: Also think questions should reflect what you're willing to do. Don't ask if you're not willing to change. #saass
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rossmcmillanQ1. For what you need ... to impact decisions. Though, is there use in including the want in case it turns into a need (long term?) #saass
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The_SA_Blog+1! RT @stephaniemz: Q1: Also think questions should reflect what you're willing to do. Don't ask if you're not willing to change. #saass
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lmendersbyQ2: Do your questions change depending on the assessment method you're using? Do you rewrite/add/delete certain questions? #saass
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jeff_burrow@stephaniemz I like that. We ask many Q's thinking we'll use the data later If its not part of your RQ/AO today why include it #saass
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stephaniemz@jeff_burrow Not to mention ppl who assess programs but can't/won't change them #saass
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MattDeegA2: I'd think they have to change. The questions I'd ask in quant are very different from those I'd ask in qual. #saass
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AD_TOA2: You ask the basic question: Why is it important for me? Then you analyze the different branches of its implications #saass @lmendersby
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The_SA_BlogHow so? MT @MattDeeg: A2: I'd think they have to change. Questions I'd ask in quant are very different from those I'd ask in qual. #saass
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stephaniemzQ2: Depends on the assessment plan. If I'm assessing prgm effectiveness, would ask same ? for a few times. #saass
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MattDeeg@The_SA_Blog With quant questions, don't want to leave something open-ended...with qual, want to be able to explore further. (cont.) #saass
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The_SA_BlogRT @stephaniemz: Q2: Depends on the assessment plan. If I'm assessing prgm effectiveness, would ask same ? for a few times. #saass
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jeff_burrowQ2 My survey q's are to generalize, most other methods are to illuminate a unique experience - triangulation pos or neg is a goal #saass
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MattDeeg@The_SA_Blog (cont.) I like qual for the interviewing/stories I can get. Those questions have to be broad and open to get honest ans. #saass
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lmendersbyQ3: Do you take into account who will be asking the question as well as who will be answering the question? #saass
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stephaniemzQ3: Again, depends on the plan. I often ask same ? of diff stakeholders to measure perceptions, triangulation #saass
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lmendersby@stephaniemz Do the questions always come from you? Does it make a difference who asks the questions? #saass
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MattDeegA3: Definitely who will be answering...I want them to understand the language and vocab used. Asking really depends on their ability. #saass
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jeff_burrowQ3.Yes I like to use cognitive interviews for surveys before piloting them. Diff audiences read questions/responses very differently #saass
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stephaniemzQ3: Not always. Normally I ask what folks want to know and use my knowledge of survey methodology to design them. #saass
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lmendersbyQ4: When reviewing a set of assessment questions, what's the first thing you're looking for? What might immediately stand out? #saass
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MattDeegA4: Readibility, flow, and applicability (do they give me the information i need?) #saass
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stephaniemzQ4: Confusing terminology, can the question measure adequately #saass
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lmendersbyRT @MattDeeg: A4: Readibility, flow, and applicability (do they give me the information i need?) #saass
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lmendersby@bryanbristol Jump right on in even if you're late Bryan. We'd love to hear from you! #saass
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jeff_burrowQ4. Where my own bias is in the question? But still giving enough clues for the student to comprehend, retrieve and report an answer #saass
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lmendersbyQ5: Some resources talk about ensuring your questions line up with your learning outcomes? What are your tips for doing this? #saass
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jeff_burrowQ4. Also thinking if everyone gave the same answer what would/could I now do with that data? What action would I take. #saass
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stephaniemzQ5: This is hard b/c a lot of folks writing these things have very little knowledge about methodology. #saass
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RachelHLunaJumping on for the last 10 mins of #saass... Ready, set, go assessment questions!
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lmendersby@RachelHLuna Hi Rachel! You're just in time! :) Tell us how you'd write assessment questions that would align with learning outcomes. #saass
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stephaniemzQ5: I'd draft a survey and then test it to see if the answers reflected connection to learning outcomes. #saass
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The_SA_BlogRT @stephaniemz: Q5: I'd draft a survey and then test it to see if the answers reflected connection to learning outcomes. #saass
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RachelHLunaQ5: I like taking a big pic look... make a chart with my LOs and plan questions based on specific aspects of each outcome #saass
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jeff_burrowQ5. Involve others. Easy to fool yourself. Bring in potential participants, colleagues, have them review your q's vs. outcomes #saass
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lmendersbyTime for a quick final thought (FT)! Finish this sentence: A good assessment question is ... #saass
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stephaniemzFT: One that gives you useful data. #saass
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jeff_burrowFT. that puts you in a better decision making position than you were when you started #saass
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lmendersbyRT @jeff_burrow: FT. that puts you in a better decision making position than you were when you started #saass
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MattDeegFT: A good assessment question is one that makes the student feel heard and provides actionable information. #saass
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lmendersbyRT @MattDeeg: FT: A good assessment question is one that makes the student feel heard and provides actionable information. #saass
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lmendersbyThanks for a great chat today assessment friends! I'm loving the learning & connections here. You all are rocking it today! #saass
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RachelHLunaFT: A good assessment question is one that asks what you intend to ask in a way that ppl can understand & respond #saass
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lmendersbyDon't forget to also follow #labgab today to join the assessment conversation at @LoyolaChicago with @CampusLabsCo! #saass
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lmendersbyWe're still working through our crowd sourced assessment guide. Share your thoughts & ideas here: http://t.co/0hVilB1k #sachat #saass
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RachelHLunaGlad to grab the tail end of #saass today - Looks like it was another great convo w/ @lmendersby, et. al.
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marlenaloveRT @MattDeeg: FT: A good assessment question is one that makes the student feel heard and provides actionable information. #saass
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lmendersbyHey #saass friends! I found a resource with some interesting links/tips on writing effective questions: http://t.co/BaCt9Fh4 #sachat
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