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Please share any comments or questions about the Typical Trail Design.Please share any comments or questions about the Trail Crossings.Please share any comments or questions about the Downtown Durham Planning Section.Please share any comments or questions about the Bragtown Planning Section.Please share any comments or questions about the Two Rivers Planning Section.Please share any comments or questions about the Bahama Planning Section.Please share any comments or questions about the Rougemont Planning Section.Do you have additional input you would like to share with the planning team?What is your zip code?Please specify your race.Do you identify as Latino/Hispanic?What is your gender?What is your age?Do you identify as LGBTQIA+?Does anyone in your household have a disability?What is the primary language spoken in your home?How long have you lived in Durham?Do you reliably have access to a car?How many children under the age of 18 live in your household?What is the highest level of school or degree you have completed?When you add up the income of your household, what range of income does your household fall into?
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The Penny's Bend trailhead connector and path of the proposed rail trail route through the adjacent Plant Conservation Preserve would directly impact federally threatened/endangered plant species. The Plant Conservation Program Preserve does not allow public access, and construction (such as of the proposed trail) is prohibited under the terms of the Dedication as a State Nature Preserve. Impacting any part of the preserve would require approvals from the Plant Conservation Board, Natural Heritage Advisory Council, NC Land and Water Fund, and Council of State. The NC Plant Conservation Program and NC Natural Heritage Program should be consulted as early as possible in the planning process.
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Definitely a fan of the flashing lights crossing sign post. Some kind of surface change on the road as well.It would be great to add a connector from red maple park to the Colonial Village neighborhood- there is an existing dirt path that connects over the Bon Air Ave - to increase neighborhood trail access.27704White or CaucasianNoNon-binary/non-conforming25-34YesNoEnglish6-10 yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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Great design. Just wish we put as much money and thought into improvement on our public school buildings that are run down and full of mold. That would be a better use of tax dollars.Cute idea, but how about we remove the mold from the schools and the lead from the parks first?!?27704Prefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerYesPrefer not to answer16-20 yearsYes1-2Bachelor’s degreePrefer not to answer
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Any way to separate peds and bikes; rather than the occasional horse, I'd rather see a bikeway paved and a gravel walking trail. What have we learned from the Am Tob Trail regarding fast bikes and slow peds? This trail will get a lot of use!Err on the side of too much. Traffic calming on the crossing road is good. Integrate into Vision Zero. The stop signs on other trails in town are completely faded by the sun and no one will replace them. This will likely happen on this trail, too. I've tried to get new ones and it't not easy.Nice. Looks good.Nice.I have been at that intersection many times. Visibility and speed on Old Oxford/Snow Hill could be a problem. Be careful there.Looks good.Any plans for food/drink or bike repair kiosk, once you get way out there?Thanks for the planning work; this is exciting and long overdue.27705White or CaucasianNoMale55-64NoNoEnglish21+ yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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Pleased with multi-use planning. In favor of including a natural surface section for people with or without horses. Some of the older among us cannot run on asphalt or gravel but can run on natural (softer) surfaces.Great location for a trailhead!27705White or CaucasianNoFemale65 and overPrefer not to answerNoEnglish21+ yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or higherPrefer not to answer
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I'm very excited about this future trail, especially since I work in North Durham and my children will be going to school there soon. I strongly support this plan!27707White or CaucasianNoFemale45-54NoNoEnglish1-5 yearsYes3-4Master’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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The grade separated crossings seem like the best option for me, where space allows. I like Camden Ave trailhead concept 1 best due to the increased number of parking spaces compared to concept 2.I like the design concept 1 for more parking.Bigger parking lots makes the most sense to me to mitigate traffic issues27705White or CaucasianNoFemale35-44YesYesEnglish6-10 yearsYesNoneBachelor’s degreemore than $100,000
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I love having the sides of the trail be gravel, like the ATT's southern end. makes senseI think it would be really smart to add a connector from bon air ave to Red Maple Park via the existing trail behind the Jehovah's Witnesses Kingdom Hall a dirt and gravel path already exists there and more people could access the trail as well as use it to access parts of n Durham if that existing trail were paved it's pretty short but paving it would help a lot!love the connector to Horton grove27704Multiracial or BiracialNoFemale25-34YesYesEnglish11-15 yearsYes1-2Master’s degree or higher$50,000 to $74,999
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All of these concepts look incredible. I would be overjoyed to have such a greenway extend north of Durham like this. I'm looking forward to supporting you!27701White or CaucasianNoMale35-44NoNoEnglish1-5 yearsYesNoneBachelor’s degreemore than $100,000
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In the urban part of the trail, consider separating cyclists and pedestrians further.Trail users should have priority at every crossing. If that requires signals at each intersection, then that should be provided.RRFBs are not sufficient at high-speed roads like Dearborn and E Club. These need to be signalized and design speeds need to reduced significantly.Connecting to schools and other trails is critical.Focus on economic development opportunities in the more rural parts of the trail.Public-private partnership at that trailhead to bring life to the area.Get 'er done!27701White or CaucasianNoMale45-54NoNoEnglish16-20 yearsYes1-2Master’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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Concerned with safety around little river and Lucasmy concern is safety with the trail so close to both Little River and Lucas Middle school. Little River has many outdoor doors for classrooms as well as children on the playground27278White or CaucasianNoFemale35-44NoNoEnglish16-20 yearsYes1-2Master’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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Do not destroy Bahama and Rougemont with this ... Rougemont is organizing tooYou appear to care about any destruction or interference with a community or it's way of life.Why do think the safety and security of these schools is so unimportant?
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Type B (signalized) should be the default Trail Crossing. An additional saftey feature could be a speed hump/table to serve as the Trail Crossing. This promotes traffic calming as pedestrians cross.Favored Concept 2.Favor Design Concept 1Can Rumble Strips be considered as a traffic calming measure? These could be implemented near the Trail Crossings27701Multiracial or BiracialYesMale18-24YesYesEnglishLess than 1 yearYesNoneBachelor’s degree$50,000 to $74,999
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Please see that contractors who build the trail dig deep enough when preparing the trail bed to prevent tree roots from living the surface material after only a year or two.
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Not chain link.
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I love all this, it's a great plan and would be well used by the community. I would love to see bike repair stations as well - several of the trails in Raleigh have them and it's very helpful. Some have a couple tools, but all of them will have a stand and a pump for cyclists to use if neededSome of those roads up in north Durham county are very easy to drive fast on - several have 55mph speed limits and people often go well over that. I would be concerned about those crossings in particular, so having lots of speed-limiting features in those places would make me feel saferI prefer option 1 for the trailhead - as much as I love limiting car use, the more parking for these places the better, since I expect these will get quite busy. I live near brier creek but would definitely drive into downtown to use this trail, so having parking would be greatI'm so excited for this - can't wait to see it come together27703White or CaucasianNoMale25-34NoNoEnglish1-5 yearsYesNoneBachelor’s degreemore than $100,000
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I would like to see some of the rest+interpret+gather features. I'm not against the equine option, but am concerned about fecal matters. With dogs, we easily clean up after them. I like either of the wooden fence concepts. Part of the trail experience is getting to enjoy the natural surroundings.Type B. People can be stupid and wreckless with little regard for pedestrians. Maybe do a mix, signalized for higher traffic areas.27701White or CaucasianNoFemale35-44YesYesEnglish6-10 yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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(1) Wondering how much 'ridership' there would be for horses - doesn't seem worth it to dedicate so much space to them while squishing all other path users together (which seems dangerous!). This also takes away the softer, non-asphalt option for trail users. (2) Post & rail and public art are two best (and only real) options - need to ensure the trail feels and is both safe and inviting to use (separated from car traffic/noise/pollution, engaging for all of your senses, & feeling like it's part of/at home in your community). (3) I think a mix of all three would be great- but PLEASE make sure there is shade available!!! Durham does not do enough to care for its residents and protect them from heat during the summers.Drivers do not respect crosswalks, but signalized crossings at least increase the likelihood slightly. Need to ensure that requiring trail users to press a button to 'request for the right to cross' is not particularly inconvenient, or even dangerous! Oftentimes these are located far from the crosswalk curb cut & require individuals to get very close (e.g. get off bike) & press a small specific button (requiring both balance & dexterity).Too confusing to provide feedback on, and I work in transportation in Durham...Quite confusing as well. Drivers never stop for pedestrians along Club Blvd now - how will we ensure they do with this?Also confusing. But please make sure there is adequate infrastructure to support using the trail to go for a hike at Penny's Bend (e.g. bike parking, etc.)Still confusing, but I have a hard time picturing many drivers stopping at that crossing.A little confusing, not much to say27701White or CaucasianNoFemale25-34NoYesEnglish1-5 yearsNoNoneMaster’s degree or higher$50,000 to $74,999
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I like the Public Are. it keep it interestingPlease reduce the number of intersectionsConcept 1 because it provides more parkingI just hate that there are so many intersections crossingIts going to be nice upon completionIf there is a way to reduce the intersections, you could bring out mor cyclistsBlack or African AmericanNoFemale45-54NoNoEnglishI don’t live in DurhamYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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I like it! I really like having space for both bikes and pedestrians/runners. I think a mix of the different rest area types along the trail would be nice, although I think all of them should have trash/recycling receptacles.Please err on the side of making crossings safer for pedestrians. As a bicyclist/pedestrian in Durham, I frequently have the experience of cars (including police cars) not yielding unless they are forced to by a red light (and sometimes they run the light). So I highly support signalized crossings with red lights as well as raised crossings or crossings with speed bumps or curb extensions that force cars to slow down or stop.I favor Camden Ave trailhead concept 1 since it has more parking spaces. I love the idea of extending Ellerbee creek trail to meet the new rail trail and increase access to Beaver Marsh preserve.I'm really excited about this project! Thank you for all the work you've put into this.27704White or CaucasianNoFemale35-44NoNoEnglish1-5 yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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Im a fan of the American tobacco trail and this looks similar so no notesLove the proposed ellerbee connection! I live in Northgate Park and that would be the route I’d use. Looks very convenientI like that there’s a midway island for the club blvd crossing. People really fly down that road👍I like the roundabouts on the trail, they’re something a little differentJust heard about this over the weekend but I’m really excited for it! Hopefully it comes to fruition.27704White or CaucasianNoFemale25-34YesNoEnglish6-10 yearsYesNoneBachelor’s degreemore than $100,000
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I like all of this. The main thing is getting the trail built. If it could have infrastructure as good or better than the American Tobacco Trail, that would be a fantastic upgrade for Durham County. It would be great to eventually have a fully connected trail network throughout Durham County and connecting into trail networks in nearby counties.Obviously, grade separated crossings are preferred, but, it should not prevent or significantly delay the trail getting built. Rather, let's get the trail built using the treatments that we can get done, then let's upgrade the crossings of this trail (and other trails) to grade separation.Let's get this built. I'm eagerly waiting to see some progress in construction of the Downtown Durham Rail TrailLet's get this built!Let's get this built!Connecting the trail to Lake Michie's park facilities makes a lot of sense. Let's get this built!Let's get this built!Let's get this built!27705White or CaucasianNoMale45-54NoYesEnglish21+ yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or higherPrefer not to answer
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I think this looks great! I am unsure how much use would be seen on the horse side of the trail, but this would be huge for pedestrians, cyclists, and joggers. The crushed stone side would be very nice for running. Looks great to me! I would just add that Visibility onto roads being crossed is important. It would be helpful and a boon to trail user safety to be able to see cars coming from a ways away when preparing to cross roads.Connecting to the Ellerbe creek trail would be lovely. A restroom at the trailhead would be very helpful for trail users as well as water fountains. If those are included in the pavilion space proposed that would be excellent.Looks great to me!This section looks great!27703Prefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answer25-34NoNoEnglish1-5 yearsYesNoneBachelor’s degreePrefer not to answer
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Will there be crossing lights when crossing roads with traffic?I love the idea of expanding the biking and walking paths in and around Durham.I love what I see hereI prefer the 1st trailhead design as it has more greeneryI feel this trail is a brilliant and needed addition to our community. I look forward to biking and walking with my family as we explore and support new parts of the area27701White or CaucasianNoMale45-54NoNoEnglish16-20 yearsYes1-2Vocational /Trade School or Associate degreemore than $100,000
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I'd rather have something done that can be expanded upon later than no trail! Are there significant time differences for these options? How much longer would a "Rest + Interpret + Gather" option take than a "Rest" option, for example? Are there significant cost differences between the fencing options that would add to longer construction times?I think the closer to downtown you get, the user-activated rapid signs should be used more frequently. But, I'm not too concerned about this overall.2770525-34English1-5 years
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I personally love the idea of a paved portion for bikes, and crushed rock portion for runners. Wood fences are always easier and cheaper to replace. They also done bend like chain link. Wood fences will look much nicer as well.High visibility is fine, but activated lights are best if possible, especially for cyclists in busy areas. none here. Whatever will be best according to city plannersI really like thislooks awesomenonenoneMore tree coverage the better. Please dont clear cut trees. Running in the sun in mid summer sucks.27712White or CaucasianNoMale25-34Prefer not to answerPrefer not to answerEnglish6-10 yearsYesNonePrefer not to answer$75,000 to $99,999
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I love the public art option. The rest area with gathering spaces.Signals and speed feedback is necessaryEllerbee creek connection yes please!Dearborn needs this. Dearborn has little to no side walks along this long road and is not safe for pedestrians especially students.Love This. Will the area be prone to flooding?Both are necessaryPerfect connection27704Black or African AmericanNoFemale45-54NoYesEnglish21+ yearsNo1-2Bachelor’s degree$75,000 to $99,999
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Gorgeous. I especially like the waysides.These match the American tobacco trail model and seem safe.
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Looks like a well developed extension to northern Durham27707White or CaucasianNoMale65 and overNoYesEnglish21+ yearsNoNoneBachelor’s degree$35,000 to $49,999
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To accommodate horses, definitely need major separation. Translates to higher cost that will be used by a small minority. Also much higher maintenance.Speed and density of car traffic should dictate type of crossing installed.prefer concept 2Love the idea.27701Asian or Pacific IslanderNoMale65 and overNoNoEnglish1-5 yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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In my experience in the US, cars don't stop for pedestrians. They just don't think about it, aren't prepared for it, aren't looking for it (even if there's signage, etc.) Pedestrian crossings must be designed in such a way that cars have no choice but to slow down, look, stop. So traffic lights are the best. Other treatments to slow down traffic can work as well. In Greenville, SC, in the Swamp Rabbit Trail, that has been in issue where the trail is outside the downtown area. Cars don't expect to see pedestrians and drivers get angry when anyone suggests they dare slow down and look out for pedestrians.I prefer Camden Avenue Trailhead 2, it looks more pleasant. But this all depends on how many people you expect to be parking there.I love what you're doing and hope it all comes to fruition! As someone who is currently renting in Durham, it gives me hope that when I do buy a house, I'll have more options... I definitely want to be somewhere where I can easily walk/bike. Just take note of the fact that cars just don't stop for pedestrians. That part scares me.27703White or CaucasianNoFemale45-54NoNoEnglish1-5 yearsOther (please specify)NoneMaster’s degree or higher$75,000 to $99,999
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Would love to see our trail to incorpórate pollinator friendly brushes, flowers and nature. I would like to see gathering places in the trail and equastian space. There should be adequate signals within the 1/5 mile of the crossing.I like the small pavilion space in concept 2.Traffic circle is a great idea to allow flow of traffic and pedestrian. I also don’t think we would need a gate for the parking lotLove that the trail allow connection to our community spaces.Is the gate necessary?Would love to see bee hives bee hotels and pollinator friendly areas within the trail. With consideration of public safety. Would be great as well if there are trail connections to centro commercial centers, shopping areas, schools, other community spaces. 27707Asian or Pacific IslanderNoFemale25-34YesYesEnglish1-5 yearsYesNoneBachelor’s degree$75,000 to $99,999
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Love it!
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I like the typical trail design that can accommodate bicycles, strollers and wheelchairs. Stress safety!Prefer Concept 2 with ramp.Concept 2 far superior. Not keen on traffic circle.Does it connect to Lake Michie at South end. Ideal if there could be a loop.Sure would be nice to have some bridging!This extension of trails would be a fantastic addition to Durham’s bike/ walking paths. I would like to see less crossings and more bridges and or tunnels.27705Prefer not to answerPrefer not to answerFemale65 and overPrefer not to answerYesPrefer not to answer21+ yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or higherPrefer not to answer
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I like the wooden fencing options best. Seems equestrian cost might not be worth the benefit and I’d love to see art and history markers in the pull outsI appreciate your thoughtfulness with regard to the crossingsNo opinionOneI’m excited by all of the connectionsLooks nice but these roads are bikeable. Again cost/benefitPlease proceed!27701White or CaucasianNoFemale65 and overNoNoEnglish21+ yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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I would be thrilled to be able to run and walk on a trail like this in my areaA restroom facility and water fountains are incredibly helpfulRestroom and water facilities are incredibly helpful to runnersI frequently travel to Raleigh to run on their trail systems, as they have far more access to restrooms and water that are helpful for runners in warm conditions or on longer runs. I’d be thrilled to have more access to trails like these closer to home!27712White or CaucasianNoFemale25-34YesNoEnglishLess than 1 yearYesNoneBachelor’s degreemore than $100,000
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I like the public art options and the rest/interpret/gather optionsI think the signalized option is the safestThese look greatI love this idea and as an avid biker in north Durham this will open up so many new opportunities for people to get outside and access areas in Durham27704White or CaucasianNoFemale25-34NoNoEnglish6-10 yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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Water fountains and bathrooms please!27707White or CaucasianNoFemale45-54NoNoEnglish11-15 yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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Looks great!I love the idea of the connectors at the schools, making it possible for area residents to have a safe place to bike from our homes. Much needed! We have no bike lanes out here at all. Love it! Sounds like an amazing improvement for our community.I think it will improve quality of life to have access to a safe place to bike and a lovely greenway for families and people with mobility issues.27712White or CaucasianNoFemale55-64NoNoEnglish6-10 yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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Split rail or post & rail fencing, along with public art in the busier spots would look great.
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The typical design look reasonable and practical for bike/ped trails and possible equestrianThese look similar to ATT crossings which are workingMaximize parking at trail headsMaximize parkingI like the trail connections to the schools. Maximize parkingI like the trail connections to the school and parks. Maximize parkingMaximize parking27704White or CaucasianNoFemale65 and overNoNoEnglish21+ yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or higher$50,000 to $74,999
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I am not an equestrian but I have to wonder if the maintenance for these sections is higher than the othersThe errands high risk driving in North Durham is really rampant. I'm not familiar with the crossing areas but I really think that you need to talk to residents of those areas. People who live near high speed areas are well aware of who drives erratically through there and how often. And I think those areas need to be signalized.I love the ideas of improvements to the parking at Penny's bend because it's pretty terrible place to park right now. However, there is a lot of growth happening specifically just south of that intersection. Traffic there goes well above the posted speed limit and I think a traffic circle is going to be a really terrible idea there. The stop sign is already a little hard to navigate for folks that are coming across on higher speeds on Old oxford. I think this needs to be a traffic light.27712White or CaucasianNoFemale45-54NoNoEnglish6-10 yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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I would rather not have chain link fence; other options are much betterStrongly prefer raised crossing or raised median island. Ideally would have the trail cross over or under roads for improved family enjoyment and no road intersection!Could a bathroom be included? Please. Or at least some bathroom optionI would rather have the parking on the east side of Old Oxford and NOT have to cross that very busy road! Could there be a small spur option to cross under the Old Oxford bridge?I absolutely love this idea of a long multi use trail in N Durham. To make it family and user friendly, the fewer road crossings and the most visibility is critical to enjoyment. 27705Prefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerYesEnglish21+ yearsYes3-4Prefer not to answerPrefer not to answer
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I am a Treyburn resident and I fully support this initiative. I am hopeful that it can be done quickly so that I can utilize it while I am still physically active.27712White or CaucasianNoMale55-64NoNoEnglish21+ yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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I like concept 1–more parking is better. Unless you are putting in bathrooms.Looks goodThe connectors are great. I think concept 2 seems more feasible. More parking at Penny’s Bend would be nice but I think the proposed addition would tear up the smaller trails to the river and seems better to keep the forest intact so close to the water.Love the connectors, especially to Horton Grove and all the proposed trails at Lake Michie. Looks good27705White or CaucasianNoFemale45-54NoNoEnglish21+ yearsYes1-2Master’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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I like the typical section displayed here. It works well for the ATT and believe it would serve well here. All these components seem to be proven pieces to creating a good trail.As someone near E Club Blvd, I'd say that one would require a good amount of 'hard' infrastructure (curbs/lights/signage etc.) given the amount of speed passing through there. I would not say it's 'heavy' traffic but consistent. (medium traffic?) I like Concept 2 since it includes a small pavilion and feels appropriately sized amount of parking. Whichever concept goes forward, I'd suggest making them 'one-way' loops. Like a traffic circle but with parking. They both look small enough to accommodate that.Looks like a cycling traffic circle similar to Fyllingsdal Tunnel in Norway!Looks nice! It'd be a good pit stop for the Red Leaf Bar which would benefit from the extra traffic coming by.Multiracial or BiracialYesMale35-44NoNoEnglish1-5 yearsYesNoneBachelor’s degreemore than $100,000
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I prefer the alternative to the typical trail design to accommodate equestrians, That design is similar to what i have seen in France. Having a 10 to 12 foot wide asphalt trail and a 6 to 8 foot wide natural surface trail running parallel to each other would/could serve equestrians or people who just want to walk on the natural ground.I think whatever is the most cost effective would be fine. Any crossing with heavy traffic should have flashing lights.Concept 1 provides for more parking which may be a better option.
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Equestrian, post & rail, rest with rest + interpret + gather at major points like Bahama where people can join the trail. Look at the Katy Trail across Missouri. In rural areas where cycles and autos meet, cycles yield to autos. In built up areas with homes, commercial establishments, vehicles slowing and navigating in a denser area, autos yield to cycles. Create interchanges in busier areas where cyclists are able to stop traffic to cross, not the case in more rural areas. The only comment to make without having detailed knowledge of the area and traffic patterns is to ensure easy and safe accessibility. If there is the possibility access or location will increase use, particularly commuting use, then it should be considered. It’s great to have a project like this dedicated to leisure use, but to compliment that use with additional features or access along the trail to be used by cycling commuters would be added value. I live in western France part time and Durham. I use a bike in France as my main means of transportation. Connect or join whatever can be to create a network, I assume the objective is to create a network. 🙂.🙂Great to see this moving forward!27701White or CaucasianNoMale55-64YesNoEnglish6-10 yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or higher$50,000 to $74,999
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This trail is a terrible waste of moneyWaste of moneyWaste of moneyWaste of moneyWaste of moneyWaste of moneyWaste of moneyWaste of money27704White or CaucasianNoFemale35-44Prefer not to answerPrefer not to answerEnglish21+ yearsYes1-2Bachelor’s degreemore than $100,000
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I am excited to see these designs that would increase accessibility in our outdoors and reduce the need for car traffic to get there.27701White or CaucasianNoFemale25-34NoNoEnglish1-5 yearsYes1-2Master’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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The Two Rivers Planning Section appears to infringe on private property on a horse farm. Not sure that the owners will want the public to have access to interact with the horses. How will that be addressed??Will owners have any say about the trail coming onto and taking their property?I personally believe we have enough green spaces without adding this trail.27712White or CaucasianNoFemale65 and overNoNoEnglish21+ yearsYesNoneBachelor’s degree$75,000 to $99,999
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It seems wider than it needs to be - could probably be narrowed to 7 or 8 feet to reduce the cost. It isn't going to see massive use necessitating such a wide trail. The Ellerbee Creek Trail isn't that wide and gets lots of use and people make room for each other. Same for other paved trails in this region. Also, I like all the fencing except the chain link.The crossing by Penny's Bend should have a signal. People drive very fast on that road and there is a lot of traffic.I think a traffic circle by Penny's Bend would help with existing traffic issues there - Snow Hill Rd often backs up with traffic because Old Oxford Rd is so busy and it's difficult to turn left onto Old Oxford. Also, during high fishing and hiking seasons, Penny's Bend doesn't have enough parking, so more parking in that area would be helpful. Adding the parking on the east side of Old Oxford in Concept 2 to the bigger lot in Concept 1 might be a good idea - in spring, anglers fill the lot at Penny's Bend, and the grassy areas on the other side of Old Oxford as well, leaving no room for hikers or rail trail users. The road crossing at Penny's Bend needs some kind of signal, especially if the main parking is on the east side of Old Oxford, because cars go fast through there.27712White or CaucasianNoFemale45-54NoNoEnglish21+ yearsYes1-2Bachelor’s degreemore than $100,000
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I am a frequent cyclist, and I have come across several different crossing types. Transverse rumble strips could cause problems for cyclists. Frequent use of crossings gets drivers used to bikes and walkers and they act better.Parking access is important for frequently used areas. Water and rest rooms are desirable.Will this illuminate the section of the Ellerbe Creek Trail that runs down club Boulevard?I hope that I will still be cycling when this is completed . I would like to try it out27713White or CaucasianNoMale65 and overNoNoEnglish6-10 yearsYesNoneBachelor’s degree$50,000 to $74,999
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Please include a crushed stone surface for runners!!Please do grade separated where funds allow.It would be nice to have bathrooms at the trailhead.Bathrooms would be nice. I know it is expensive, but grade separated road crossings would make cycling much more enjoyable.27712White or CaucasianNoMale35-44NoYesEnglish11-15 yearsYes1-2Master’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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There is an immediate need for a stop light with cross walk at Snow Hill Rd / Old Oxford Hwy hiConnectors to Lucas School and other are great featuresWe are long-time residents of Snow Hill Rd area (38 y) and are probably too old to see this happen but this is a great project27712Multiracial or BiracialNoMale65 and overNoNoEnglish21+ yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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Looks good. I like the gravel sides…hopefully the trail will be maintained w sweepers pretty regularly to facilitate small wheel use such as rollerblades or scooters.Looks good. I hope the crossing at club blvd will be adequate.I prefer Camden ave concept 2.Penny’s bend concept 2 is vastly better than concept 1 imo. 1 looks dangerous.27704White or CaucasianNoMale55-64NoNoEnglish21+ yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or higher$50,000 to $74,999
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Check other loal rail trails like the ATT for best practices and 20+ years of experience with trail layout. I don't think that a buffer is needed between equestrian and other users. You might want to contact the NC Horse Council as they were involved with the ATT design. Leslie Kennedy would be a good initial contact.Again, strongly consider best practices from other (local) rail trail projects.You might needto consider how/if the current Durham Beltline project may or may not intersect with the proposed project27513White or CaucasianNoMale65 and overNoNoEnglishI don’t live in DurhamYesNoneBachelor’s degreePrefer not to answer
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prefer split rail and mostly rest areas, with one or two rest+ stationsprefer signalized crossingspennys bend area always seems to need more parking27517White or CaucasianNoFemale55-64NoNoEnglishI don’t live in DurhamYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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Post and rail make sense for the fencing option Would people really consider stopping to rest on a bench or go there for a picnic?All of the crossing options seem appropriate. Safety is a must and the recognition that those are country roads which sometimes encourages speeding unfortunatelyDoes this plan take any property of the landowners for easements?27707Black or African AmericanNoFemale65 and overNoNoEnglish21+ yearsPrefer not to answerNoneBachelor’s degreePrefer not to answer
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Try to not pave over pennys bend to make a parking lot. It is a unique area and a nature preserve and should not be under a parking lotConsider more natural tread trial surfaces and lower the ammont of pavement to make the trail.2771221+ yearsYes1-2
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It will be necessary to avoid impacting the NCDA&CS Eno River Diabase Sill Plant Conservation Preserve at the Penny's Bend Trailhead. For this reason, Concept 2 seems more viable. Any impacts will require approval by Plant Conservation Program Board, NC Land and Water Fund Board, Natural Heritage Advisory Committee, State Property Office, and Council of State; this process may take many months or more than a year.27705NoFemale45-54Prefer not to answerNoEnglish11-15 yearsYes1-2Master’s degree or higher$75,000 to $99,999
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Great renderings!This is awesome!I support thisRoad crossings that pinch and slow traffic for safety are important!27707White or CaucasianNoMale35-44NoNoEnglish6-10 yearsYesNoneBachelor’s degreePrefer not to answer
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For rural sections I like the idea of split rail fencing, particularly using cedar or other similar wood rather than chemically treated lumber.I think the most important is to have a painted crosswalk , and to have "yield to pedestrian" signs, and to make sure there is good visibility, so that from the trail you can see cars coming, and from the road you can see pedestrians at the side of the road.This looks great with the connections to the other trails!Looks good! I am particularly excited about using this trail to move the MST trail onto the rail bridge and off of the dangerous Old Oxford Road bridge.At Penny's Bend I like very much having the MST cross the rail bridge, moving it off of the narrow and dangerous Old Oxford Road bridge. However, I think a design where it goes under the Old Oxford Road bridge is much preferable to it crossing Old Oxford Road at grade. There is a lot of traffic on that road, and cars drive very fast, often much faster than the speed limit. Thus I think routing the MST under the bridge, where there is sufficient room, is much preferable to an at grade crossing. This will be of course unusable occasionally due to flooding, but that is true of many other locations along the trail. Also, parking is very limited at Penny's Bend, and the parking lot there is often full, with people parking along the road. This plan does not seem to add much parking, just paving the existing gravel parking lot(s). Close to the river a gravel parking lot is much preferable to a paved lot due to it being more water permeable. I think we need to as much as possible avoid adding more impermeable surfaces close to the river. There is parking on the East side of Old Oxford Road, on both the north side and south side of the river. These parking lots are rather rough, but could be improved without paving them.Looks good!Looks good!This looks great! I certainly hope this can move forward. This will be such a fabulous recreational resource for the triangle.27705Prefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answer21+ yearsYesPrefer not to answerMaster’s degree or higherPrefer not to answer
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For trail waysides, I like the Rest and Interpret option with the addition of a toilet (port-a-pot is adequate if funds are limited). It’s challenging to stay properly hydrated in Durham with so few public toilets. While the addition of gathering would be nice, I would prioritize the overall project just to get it done in a timely manner. Maybe leave space for future gathering space? Fences - Any of the options except the chain link! I like the public art with some history. Typical scenes look good and main concern would be crossing streets. As for the equestrian trails, I’d put them at a lower priority since they don’t add to facilitating commuting. These are super important, and I’ll defer to the experts. I suggest communication and education to drivers in the community in advance. When my kids were new drivers in north Durham, they were nervous on narrow roads with bikers so the more communication the better.What about using fine gravel (1/4 to 1/2 inch) instead of paved parking lots so as not to add impermeable surface area?Like the Horton Grove connection!I’m super excited about this and appreciate the opportunity for input. This will be like our Durham version of the Virginia Creeper Trail! I think at each end of the trail - or wherever it makes - that there should be space set aside for bike rentals. Suggest an experienced vendor who could provide transportation for one-way riders. This would make the trail accessible to visitors.27701White or CaucasianNoFemale55-64NoNoEnglish21+ yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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This is such an excellent idea, great use of the space, and for a great asset for this area! Typical Trail design: all plans look like they would fit and/or blend with the overall aesthetic of the current trails. Here are some questions based off of situations I've experienced on the ATT: Who would be responsible for the maintenance? - grass areas (mowing)? - trash removal and how often? (was one of the reasons given against this project during a public meeting) - trail clearing (downed trees, branches/limbs, leave removal)? - resurfacing the asphalt sections when damaged (tree roots)? Fencing: while the public art is a wonderful idea it does not correlate with the nature/natural trail appearance. The Post & Rail would be the best overall look. Trail Waysides: The Rest + Interpret is a good combination for "rest stops" between Trail Heads. This are could include "way finder maps" showing us where we are while providing a note of history of the surrounding area. These locations could also provide a space for some "public" art.As a rider, I'd like to see the combination of the transverse rumble strips leading up to a Type B crossing. However more than one set of rumble strips, maybe 3 sets leading up to the crossing.Camden Avenue Trailhead 1 concept: maybe add some benches in the area along the parking lot and trail rampPenny's Bend Trailhead Design concept 1 seems to be the least complicated and least busy. Concept 2 seems to bring more of a opportunity for incidents with the separated parking lots (and one gated and the other not), multiple crossings...too much.277112Black or African AmericanNoFemale55-64NoNoEnglish21+ yearsYesNonePrefer not to answerPrefer not to answer
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Why are fences necessary in some places? Wouldn't fencing disrupt animal migration and contribute to habitat fragmentation?Grade-separated and raised crossings seem like the best options wherever possible. Personally I don't think user-activated lights are helpful in almost any context (e.g. on the ATT at Riddle/Cornwallis - cars almost always ignore the lights in my experience, and I think there's a lot of "boy who cried wolf" with those - most of the time a cyclist would be through the crossing and out of sight, so cars just see flashing lights with no cyclist/pedestrian, and learn to ignore them). User-activated stoplights seem like a good idea in high traffic dangerous areas. Y'all are the experts, though!The section of the South Ellerbee Creek Trail between Washington and Acadia needs help. Particularly where it crosses W Club at Glendale. I bike there all the time and have sketchy car interactions frequently. It would be great if the new rail trail doesn't have to cross Club there at all.This looks awesome, I'm so stoked for a safe bike route from downtown Durham to the Eno!Very excited for this trail! Thanks y'all!27704White or CaucasianNoFemale25-34NoNoEnglish1-5 yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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Looks great! I hope the addition of equestrian, at least in the northern reaches, rings in more of the community in that area. Having been hit and had near misses from distracted drivers speeding in roadways where the only indication of a bike/ped area is paint, I am for the most obvious traffic disruption possible. There are many courteous drivers here, but there are a few who, sadly, are hostile to all non-gasoline users of “their” space. 27713-9335White or CaucasianNoMale65 and overNoNoEnglish11-15 yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or higherPrefer not to answer
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Annoying but chain link fences please. Also, trail runners like running on the “equestrian trail.” During a recent trail run, I was asked to show a horse it was safe to cross a bridge.Noting the father that was just murdered on Guess Rd. on a crossing with a signal, all the crossings need a minimum of rumble strips, signals, and reduce the speed nearby to <35 mph. Treat it like a school zone, kids will be crossing and playing on the trail.It should connect to Ellerbee creek, why is that even a question.This might make it possible to bike to schoolHopefully these school connections work, we have a bus shortage that could be fixed if kids were could be safe getting to school on foot (might also fix childhood obesity and attention problems) More benches for the old and young along the trail. Also plan for water fountains and restrooms. It’s not equitable that the only restrooms on most trails are for men (think about it).27701Black or African AmericanNoMale35-44YesNoEnglish6-10 yearsNo1-2Master’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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Keep it simple. The typical section is great. It has been proven to work. I don't know anything about equestrian needs. Keep rest areas simple.Again, simplicity is key. Crossings need to be robust. A blinking light that stops functioning is of no value.I favor the trailhead option that provides the most parkingLooks goodAgain, ample parking at access points is importantWill the trail go all the way to Roxboro?Simplicity, robustness, and low maintenance are important for the trail. It would be more than great if the trail can be built.27701White or CaucasianNoMale55-64Prefer not to answerPrefer not to answerEnglishPrefer not to answerYesPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answer
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This will be an Atv, dirt bike highway. Durham can’t keep them off city streets, this will give them a highway and to our backyardsNone of the aboveRight through a rough part of town. Perfect2750335-4421+ yearsBachelor’s degreemore than $100,000
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Center lines on the trail could be helpful for ensuring that folks generally stay on one side (to allow bikers to pass pedestrians). For waysides, if the designers are considering the "rest interpret gather" system, please consider whether it would be possible to include a little bit of commercial space. Room for a tiny coffee shop or access for a food truck could make the trail more of a draw. The biggest issue with the American Tobacco Trail, for example, is that with the exception of Southpoint, it is difficult or unappealing to stop anywhere for a break while cycling/recreating. Many of the cyclists I know would prefer to be able to ride 20 miles, stop for coffee and a pastry, and then turn around.Raised crossings and median islands are both great options to include if possible. I trust you all to have looked in to the possible road speeds at these crossings already!As mentioned previously, I'd encourage planners to try to have some easily accessible commercial developments nearby. Providing some space for local Braggtown residents to set up cafes, restaurants, and other markets to service the trail could provide a great local economic boon and encourage additional traffic.27705Asian or Pacific IslanderNoMale25-34NoNoEnglish6-10 yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or higher$50,000 to $74,999
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27701White or CaucasianNoMale45-54NoNoEnglish11-15 yearsYes1-2Master’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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Putting a roundabout here is a terrible idea as this would be on a hill-what works fine on flat city roads but does not work for more rural roads.Crossing back and forth across Stagville Rd and Quail Roost is not a good idea. The crossing at Orange Factory and Quail Roost at Mangum Elementary pose safety risks to those crossing and driving. It would be better if the school was connected at the intersection of Bahama Rd where there are already stop signs. Traffic will not be able to slow down quickly enough not matter how many flashing lights you put up and this will only cause further traffic issues for rural roads.If the proposed plan was to include room for horse trails, where is the parking available for this? This would require enough room for a truck with a trailer to “pull through” much like rv parking. Crossing 1 is not a good location as traffic will not be able to stop in time no matter what type of flashing lights are installed. Additionally, this makes numerous crossings over Quail Roost and Stagville Rd, which is very disruptive to commuting traffic.It is very difficult to identify on these maps the exact location of the rail trail and the affected street crossings that are not highlighted to provide input.27503White or CaucasianNoPrefer not to answer45-54NoNoEnglish11-15 yearsYesNoneBachelor’s degreemore than $100,000
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Who will be responsible for the maintenance?
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We don’t want a trailO no no no trailSounds like a waste of taxpayers money.Dangerous areaStop People don’t want thisIf a trail comes behind my house we will have to build a ten foot high fence. I’ll be terrified to let my kids play outsideWhy can’t I get an address to write to27503Other (please specify)Prefer not to answerOther (please specify)Prefer not to answerNoNoOther (please specify)21+ yearsYesPrefer not to answerBachelor’s degreePrefer not to answer
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Looks good. Experienced cyclists will likely ride the whole length with perhaps one stop for water/bathroom. Walkers and families will more likely use wayside areas.Trail users agile be able to activate signals as often as possible. In town, there’s more car traffic of course, but rural area drivers are not accustomed to watching for cyclists and walkers. Signal protection will be needed. This is all very impressive, truly. For the Camden trailhead, suggest you pay extra attention to surveillance and lighting, to protect parked cars. Visitors from outside the city will need reassurance that their cars will be safe while they use the trail. Great connectivity potential for local schools, that’s excellent. Please keep user activated signaling in mind. The proposed trailhead in this section might bear some similarities to Anderson Point Park in Wake County which is the middle section of the Neuse River Greenway. We use that park every time and ride either north or south from there.I haven’t seen any mention yet regarding placement of bathrooms and/or water fountains. Is it assume that “trailhead” areas will include such facilities? Those services may be considered essential for this rural middle section.Apologies for earlier comment about lack of facilities at trailhead. I’m viewing this survey on my phone and I’m having difficulty seeing details.With a lack of gas stations and convenience stores along much of the trail, it might be useful to consider vending machines so that people have some access to food and drink along the way. Sure if that’s already covered in the map insets. 27713White or CaucasianNoMale55-64NoNoEnglish21+ yearsYes1-2Master’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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I like the crushed stone option on either side of the paved section. Adding a horse trail option for the Northern section would be appropriate. Rest options and Rest Interpret options would be ideal. Maybe 1 gathering optionAgree with theseyes agree with this. My only concern is parts of Bragtown are rough and there are potential safety concerns that need to be addressed with solicitations and homelessness population- specifically there are people living in tents behind the Costco in Durham along that trailway system. Will there be adequate lighting?DeerBorn road is already a very tight 2 lane road and in a potentially safety issue neighborhood. What is being addressed for safety in these sections?At Penny's bend it already gets crowded so is a stoplight being installed? Agree with everything else and access sidewalksagree with thisagreeas noted in prior sections- some areas of Deerborn and downtown Durham through Bragtown are sketchy. what is being done for safety? lighting in these areas?27712Prefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answer6-10 yearsYesPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answer
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Prefer the cheapest option for trail design and fencing when needed. Rest without extras is fine since focus should be on getting the path builtDynamic speed feedback sign for drivers to be aware of trail crossing. For wide roadway crossing, median or roadway shrinkage to slow traffic down.Prefer least expensive option and focus on connection to American Tobacco trail/East Coast Greenway as this brings most economic impact to downtown Durham and longest trail usuagePrefer straight sight lines as easier to see if incoming trafficConcept 2 is preferred, less asphalt in one location and more canopy cover.27515White or CaucasianNoFemale65 and overPrefer not to answerPrefer not to answerEnglishPrefer not to answerYesNonePrefer not to answerPrefer not to answer
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Don't think equestrian trail should be included. Too few users, potential conflict between horses so close to people walking, running, biking. Assuming this is using public funds, those funds should go to the broadest number of users. In general, I would prioritize parking more cars over providing amenities. The trail is the amenity. Want lots of people to be able to use it easily. If there is a LOT of space, then sure, provide some amenities. I like the circular planter, but would consider making it elliptical or football shaped so that it's easier for bike traffic to go around it at higher speed.More parking = more better.Elliptical or football shaped island with art feature or garden.Looks great, can't wait to see it built!27510White or CaucasianNoMale55-64NoNoEnglishI don’t live in DurhamYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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Can't wait to have a RailTrail. Always have to travel out of state to ride others. Hope I live to see it's completion!27583White or CaucasianNoFemale55-64NoNoEnglishI don’t live in DurhamYesNoneVocational /Trade School or Associate degreePrefer not to answer
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I am very excited about this trail and looking forward to using it!27707White or CaucasianNoFemale55-64NoNoEnglish21+ yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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It all looks amazingPlease make them as safe and visible as possible. The Ellerbee Creek crossings of Club Blvd aren't very safe seeming. Ideally the trail could cross Club Blvd with an overpass or at least something better than the current crosswalks at intersections on Club Blvdlooks greatI am so excited about this possibility. Thank you!27701White or CaucasianNoFemale55-64NoYesEnglish21+ yearsYes1-2Master’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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Both typical sections are great. Having equestrian options for the northern part is fantastic..Is it possible to use sensors rather than user-activated signals?It’d be great to have a public restroom at the trailheads. Otherwise, what do you do???Please include sufficient vegetative buffers to screen the industrial area.I like Concept 1 with the roundabout. It does help traffic flow and slow them down.27701White or CaucasianNoFemale45-54NoNoEnglish16-20 yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or highermore than $100,000
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Either of the Camden Rd trailhead designs look goodI like option 2 better. It preserves the current Penny's Bend parking area for hikers and fishers.White or CaucasianNoMale65 and overNoNoEnglish21+ yearsYesNoneMaster’s degree or higher$75,000 to $99,999