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Please make your nominations clear. These nominationns for the A ranks were overlooked in the previous slate, and thus will be discussed and voted on this week.Nomination5genAaronboyerDiagnosticDurzaOffTopicFroastyjklioeLightPinkYoshiXayahDriversAleccatBloodAceUnion CabocheFunbot28
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GolemA+ to AA+. Still the premier rocker in the tier.Adapted to meta threats like Komala and Evire with phys def sets, and Band Golem can just wreak havoc.A+A+A+. Band saves this the drop from Bronzor's usage.A+ Golem still nets good mileage out of each of its sets and is still very much a staple offensive threat and utility mon between CB, WP, and Phys Def set.A+A+. It's still the tier's premier's rocker despite dropping usage to an extent, physically defensive is a Komala check, and Band is good.Abstain.A+AbstainA+. Probably best rocker in the tier behind Crustle and Probo. Reliable as ever even with Float and Swanna running around due to its ability to pressure most entry hazard removers via its STABs or staus. Both WP offensive sets and specially defensive sets are still rlly splashable. Band is also no joke
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PinsirA+ to AA+. While something like Komala requires less support than SD Pinsir as a breaker, Pinsir is able to break non-Ditto stall basically on its own. While I don't believe that that trait should keep it in A+, Pinsir's Speed tier also means that it can break balance as well. There's also the threat of Scarf and Z-Me-First that teams should watch out for. Specifically, Scarf can give it the means to play around some of its offensive counterplay. I'll be it is a slower scarfer. A+AA+A. Definitely hasn't gotten any better with the drops.A. Pinsir can still adapt, like Buginium Z on Mold Breaker sets to better break this meta's iteration of stall. I just don't think it's as meta relevant as a rank of A+ would imply, as each set mandates having the right matchup for it. It also requires a lot more support than other notable offensive threats like Komala.AA+. Excellent breaker and runs through stall? Sign me up.Pinsir actually got BETTER because of a bulkier meta. A+ for being arguably the most effective stallbreaker of the tier. Top 10 'mons of the tier. Definitely benefits from Water-type meta, on another note.AA+A+. I dont get why this is being nommed down when stall is as good as it is. Best stallbreaker in the tier hands down with SD sets and Me First sets also pull their weight vs offense alongside the more niche Scarf and Band sets.
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MukA to A-A. Muk's viability hasn't really changed in this meta. While CB Komala and other physical breakers can theeaten it, Muk is also able to wall special Floatzel, Swanna, and Shiftry. Muk is just just a great fat mon in this meta, and pure Poison typing is great in this meta because of how good Abomasnow and other Grass-types are.AAAA. Isn't really more or less viable than before.AAAA.AAA. Great setup sweeper / wincon especially for more bulkier builds.
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ProbopassA to A-A-. Probopass is simply kind of decent outside of its niche of trapping Bronzor. If one looks at the rest of A, those Pokemon typically perform more than one job highly effectively. There's no denying that Probo has defensive utility, but imo in this meta where Water-types dominate, most Normal-types carry coverage for it, and where Probo is deadweight in certain matchups (i.e faces a team that doesn't have a Steel to trap), I just don't find Probopass as A worthy.AAAAA Trapping Bronzor is relevant as ever to the point where I don't think there's a case to really make about it being worse at its job. Volt is also a big part of what gives it MU and support versatility tooA-A???? A.AA. Great rocker and still very useful to get rid of pesky Bronzor, even if it gives it some competition.
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VigorothA to A+ or A-A-. Vigoroth is incredibly matchup dependent in this meta I feel. Breakers are ubiquitous, Abomasnow's hail chips it down, Trick/Switcheroo mons are p common, so Vigoroth is actually fairly easy to pressure. Ghost-types outside of Gourg-XL aren't common, but that's about as far as positive meta trends go for Viggy.A+A-A-A-A- Vig as a win con feels very suboptimal due to failing to break conventional stall compositions, among other things.AA-. I know this was suggested to become better after shifts but it ended up just... not happening. It still has way fewer usage than it probably should and that's a sign of a lack of splashability, so it's time to drop.Not horrible, definitely faces competition from Bulk Up Komala now though. A-.A+A. Still a good setup sweeper, just not the S rank we all thought it would be post October shift.
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BeheeyemA- to AA-. Beheeyem suffers from many of the same issues that other slow breakers face. Lots of teams are weak to Beheeyem in the defensive sense, but it's actually fairly easy to force out or RK, so sometimes it ends up not doing much. Beheeyem is also prediction reliant with Specs sets, needs considerable support if NP/CM, and offensive TR just lacks consistency in this meta. I've tried out Metronome recover which was fun and effective at times, but it's heavily pressured by the offensive portion of the meta.AAA-A-A-A-A-AbstainA-Abstain
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Dugtrio-AlolaA- to B+ or lower or B-B+. I understand where the arguments to keep Duggy-A in A- come from, but from my experience Alolan Duggy just isn't that consistent in this meta. The main issue Duggy has imo is how centered the meta is around outpacing Float, so it just suffers from that to a noticeable degree. PS: RIP all Golems that lose to Iron Head Duggy flinches.A-B+A-? Am I the only person who thinks that this is good? its a steel-type that doesn't sap momentum and isn't slow as hell.B- or D or something. This mon actually does nothing now. Bronzor is everywhere and it has to be offensive to break it. If it's going offensive it needs EQ and Toxic, then Stone Edge to hit Altaria and Swanna, and Shadow Claw for Bronzor. Literally just use Kanto Dug at that point, it's better at the role.B- I feel like Dug is in a bad spot rn due to its utility being less effective compared to Dugtrio-Kanto's higher SpeedA-, really likes the advent of bulky crustle who no longer running EQ very oftenB+. Floatzel is really bad for this and it loses 1v1 to offensive Golem, which also gives it competition. It's also kinda just drops to Choice Band Return from Komala despite the resistance.B+. SubToxic is generally strong in this meta, due to breaking stall. The main issue is that it loses to Bronzor and is pressured by Water-type meta.B+B+. Hates Float / Alt / Swanna / and Zor everywhere. Although it does provide a niche in an Evire check so they cant just keep spamming Volt.
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Silvally-DragonA- to B+ or lowerA-. Does not deserve to drop. Its niche as an offensive soft check to Waters, Grass-types, Electric-types, etc is just as valuable in this meta as ever. Not really much else to add besides Bronzor being an annoyance for it.A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-.B+Abstain
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TangelaA- to B+ or lowerB+. I'm inclined to drop Tangela due to the competition it faces from Gourg-XL, potency of Altaria in this meta, and just the lack of physical breakers that Tangela can reliably check nowadays. Offensive Tangela is still a neat set since it can soft check Waters whilst carrying nice utility both defensively and offensively, but man Tangela just lacks great matchups overall.B+B+A-, bring back offensive tangB+B+ Competes heavily to Gourgeist barring unique utillity options and greater offensive presence, mostly. It can do okay in some MUs, but is just lacking is most compared to Gourgeist rnAbstainB+. A sudden massive increase in competition from Gourgeist-XL is... not great.B+. Komala pressures this too hard. Why use Tangela when you can use Gourgeist-Super?AbstainB+
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ZebstrikaA- to AA-. Zebby is way more desired in this meta due to its Speed tier checking Floatzel naturally, Sap Sipper, and having the ability to dent Bronzor/Steels. However, I don't think it is on par with the rest of A due to its ability to be worn down, the popularity of Scarf Evire, and how it can be taken advantage of for using overheat (which it needs to at time because it's weak). A-A-A-A-A-AbstainA-A-. Use Electivire.A-A-. Use Evire.
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