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2 |  | Aegislash | A+ | S- | Disgusting into balance, customisable and you'll probably always be at risk vs at least one set | S- | S- | S | S- | Only thing keeping it from S proper is that it's still kinda awkward to fit on a lot of teams that aren't HO. | S | With TTar gone Aegi has become incredible at abusing bulky cores like Ting+Washer. Steel coverage needs to be experimented with more tbh, this thing is incredibly threatening when Clef can't wall it | S- | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
3 |  | Clefable | A+ | S | Super customisable, scary wincon and the only reliable check to Gapdos that isn't Slowbruh | S | S | S | S | Thing is kinda dumb now | S | Best anti hazard mon, anti Gapdos mon, abuses and beats like every check long-term | S | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
4 |  | Excadrill | A+ | A | Sand dropping off a cliff hurts but the utility set is nice and doubles as a dangerous breaker vs fat thanks to SD. It's also a more offensive Clef answer and can spin rocks away vs it. You do need a second steel or ground due to it being both a fake ground and a fake steel, though, which keeps it from staying A+ imo | A/A- | A | A | A- | Yeah this dropped off a cliff. Mttar was the main thing that made this as good as it was, and without the splashable sand package util sets and suicide lead are not good enough to keep it anywhere near as high. A- still feels generous, could be a B+ mon if anything | A- | Much more niche now, and with Sand essentially gone its harder to support this guy, not that Rotom and Birbs being everywhere make it even worth it to support. Only reason I don't want it lower is bc of Mold Breaker util sets | A | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
5 |  | Iron-Moth | A+ | A+ | A+ | A+ | A+ | A+ | Stupid broken moth | A+ | Still broke | A+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
6 |  | Rotom-Wash | A+ | A+ | A+ | A+ | Defoggers?? here: :salamence: | A+ | A+ | Still one of the best defensive role compressions in the tier | A+ | Where other defoggers | A+ | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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8 |  | Celesteela | A | A | Would be a cool Clef check if I didn't need to run Air Slash on every team I run it on for MVenu | A/A+ | A | A | A | Kinda customisable, but it doesn't have enough flexibility to push it any further than it already was. Clef being good helps it, HO being bad hurts it since it makes autosteela bad | A+ | I think with Clef and Aegi being so good Steela gets better | A | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
9 |  | Greninja | A | A- | A- | A- | A- | A- | Specs sets aren't that good at breaking, scarf isn't that good at revenging, boots pivot sets are just kinda mid. Lorb battle bond is probably its most dangerous set, but that's exclusive to HO, which has fallen from it's place on top of the metagame | A | gren is still good guys?? why we dropping this | A- | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
10 |  | Iron-Boulder | A | A | A+ | A+ | A+ | A | Idt enough has changed here, and I've only seen more fraudulance than before if anything | A+ | rly solid mon, perfect speed tier | A+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
11 |  | Skarmory | A | A | A | A | A | A | A | spikes 🤗 | A | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
12 |  | Ting-Lu | A | A | Solid on BO but other moth checks and grounds exist now. Gets overwhelmed often. | A | A | A | A | A+ | spikes 🤗 + best moth check | A | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
13 |  | Zapdos-Galar | A | S- | Can we suspect this yet | S- | Suspect | broken | A+ | Broken but like its only the one set and only really fits on BO/some balances | S- | This thing has turned into a giga threat now that band is actually feasible. Scarf is also the best speed control in the tier, and lefties bulk up sets have started showing up outside of webs as well. Has a place on everything from HO to fat, only thing keeping it from straight S is a lack of flexibility and a lot of teams pidgeon holing it into scarf | S- | best speed control in tier. Rly good but idk if broken | S- | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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15 |  | Amoonguss | A- | A- | MVenu might have improved a lot but all that really does is keep it from A rank. Still valuable on teams that can't fit hazard control or need a grass with longevity. | A- | A- | A- | A- | A- | MVenu enjoyers celebrating | A- | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
16 |  | Alakazam | A- | A- | A- | A- | Sash :thumbsup: Orb or even Z are inconsistent imo | A | Encore is actually busted, gives it a better reason to be run outside of HO teams | A- | Too many checks for it, and HO is bad. I've not been convinced by its performances on the very rare BO squad either | A- | Mid with Sciz + Gapdos + Aegi everywhere, sash is only real set IMO | A- | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
17 |  | Hippowdon | A- | A | A | A- | A | A- | This definitely got better, though it's still struggling to fir in a lot of places due to the moth infestation only getting worse | A | only real non-Ting ground!!! | A | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
18 |  | Keldeo | A- | B+ | Specs getting zero mileage in this meta with Slowking MTias an MVenu on the up, scarf does its job while being role compression vs gren but outside of RKing it's not very useful unlike other scarfers | B+ | B+ | Slowking, Amoonguss and Venu :wave: | B+ | B+ | Lost its main target | B+ | FlyZ maybe? too slow tbh :( | B+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
19 |  | Latias-Mega | A- | A | Opens up room for a team to not have to use one of Ting, Hippo or King while being a decent wincon. Offensive probably needs experimentation but if it's good it might be a solid fit for BO a la MTios (RIP) | A | A | A | A | Hey would you look at that, being able to drop aura sphere sometimes makes it so much more flexible | A | MTar gone makes this better?? Who would've thought | A | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
20 |  | Slowbro | A- | B+ | You answer Gapdos and Boulder better. That's literally everything you have over Slowking that's valuable in this meta. Valuable for sure, that's why I'm not sinking it like a rock to B-, but there's no way this should be higher than Slowking | B+ | It handles Boulder nicely but somehow struggles with Gapdos because it's weaknesses really hinder it | B+ | you need Helmet to "check" it and Gzap can just click Knock and ruin your day; Clef and Moth also makes it overshadowed by Slowking | A- | ngl Future Sight and Scald is kinda brokey, Slowking is technically a better choice in a vacuum but still being able to cover all of Gapdos, Boulder, and Driller in one slot is not something that many mons pull off | A- | Nothing really changed here | B+ | Bro doesn't even handle Gapdos, just Knock into U-Turn ad infinitum | B+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
21 |  | Scizor | A- | A- | A- | A | broken2 | A- | A- | I've been spamming scizor a lot on many teams for a long time. It's incredibly consistent with the bulky swords dance set, and checks a bunch of the meta. But there's a fuck tonne of matches where it just does nothing, and a lot of others where it clicks knock twice and dies. | A+ | Y'all Sciz is the shit it beats Clef beats like every check longterm with Knock good Aegi check pleaseeee its so good | A- | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
22 |  | Venusaur-Mega | A- | A | No more MTar means it no longer has egregious longevity issues. Leech Seed being popular is also helpful for it. | A | A | A | A | Yeah with sand being not omnipresent this is back in business | A | MVENU enjoyers celebrating!!! | A | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
23 |  | Zeraora | A- | A | Harvests steel birds and Gapdos, still solid speed control. Can knock helmet off Clef. Tbh GKnot needs experimentation, maybe over CC? | A | A- | bird killer | A | A- | The main way to facilitate band gapdos imo, but that doesn't make this mon that much better | A | https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldexuu-2154152281-m2ozs7q016scopeom72t757th2tfvo2pw | A | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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25 |  | Aerodactyl-Mega | B+ | B | Who uses this | B | B | B+ | B | Hurt by HO getting nerfed | B | Better Megas, better speed control | B | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
26 |  | Buzzwole | B+ | A- | We stay with the agenda. Ok but fr though the fact it no longer gets blown to pieces trying to answer the most relevant dark helps it stay useful, and the surge in steela balances is helpful. Abuses the hell out of ting and to a lesser extent Hippo and synergises well with the up and coming Slowking. Clef is a con, sure, and not being gapdos makes band kinda suck, but Fist Plate 3A is decent enough and PJab hits Clef anyways. Rips apart steel bird + ground cores while checking Sciz and SD aegi offensively and amoong usage falling off in favour of MVenu helps too. LO needs experimentation too. Defensive probably usable | B+ | A-/B+ | Offensive is interesting for its surprise factor against Skarm / Steela | A- | B+ | Nothing changed here, this mon is still bad. If anything, it got worse from losing the main thing it checked | A- | actually a threat as Offensive beats Birds | A- | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
27 |  | Enamorus | B+ | B+ | Would have voted it to drop but MTias rising is good for it | B+ | B+ | mid | B+ | B+ | B+ | if you think this should drop try Mixed FairyZ | B+ | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
28 |  | Gastrodon | B+ | B | Who uses this | B+ | B | B | B+ | B | stuffing rotom is nice but doesn't have enough EVs for all its roles | B | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
29 |  | Hydrapple | B+ | B+ | Good mon and really threatening vs some teams to the point of almost autowinning, but it struggles to answer stuff that other grasses do but much less passive, meaning teams often have to fit another gren check. Like Tangrowth in that it's effective in its own right but struggles to answer the meta relevant threats needed of a grass like the higher grasses. | A- | B+ | B+ | B+ | A- | yall wtf this thing is insane, DragonZ to break steela, leaf storm for clef, or just be 2a recover, or AV, this thing is fantastic | B+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
30 |  | Hydreigon | B+ | B+ | NP is alright I guess | B+ | Please keep my son here sademoji | B | mid atm BUT good once Zap dies; NP Z cooks Clefable and Guss + Water (Spore is broken unfort) | B+ | B | Mid as hell | B | In the words of Niadev, "who uses this" | B+ | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
31 |  | Magnezone | B+ | A- | Waiter! Waiter! More steel bird balances please! | A- | A- | A- | A- | Agreed, birbs are too good for this to be bad | A- | Birb | A- | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
32 |  | Moltres-Galar | B+ | B | B+ | This could go higher but literally no one uses it | B | free screens = Broken3? | B+ | B | Another for the HO nerf victims club | B+ | Prolly the only one who has used this post MTar, thing is quite nice though you need something to lure Lu | B+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
33 |  | Slowking | B+ | A- | Tf is this doing lower than Slowbro bruh. Not a perfect Iron Moth answer which is my only complaint, Spa booster can break past and you have to port out to an RKer, but it's as close as you're going to get. Ban moth btw | A- | Better than Slowbro by a long shot. It checks Iron Moth, M-Gardevoir, Celesteela and can take Volt Switches consistently vs Washer to pivot out | A- | A- | A- | Good for regen farming, at least a stopgap moth answer, great pivot now that you're not perpetually worried about getting pursuit trapped | A- | pretty annoying to play against with Scald Fsight | A- | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
34 |  | Tangrowth | B+ | B+ | B+ | B | B+ | B | This thing is not as good as apple, but apple is not an A rank mon, so this needs to drop | B+ | no way this thing is as good as apple yall | B+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
35 |  | Tapu-Fini | B+ | B | Somehow even more grasses than before, + being a bulky fairy that is both not clef and can't actually come in on Gapdos is definitive midburger. | B | Changed my voting, this mon just feels worse the more i think about it | B | mid (free Zard X pls) | B+ | B | Just doesn't really fit anywhere anymore. Scarf isn't as great to farm HO, bulky sets can't tough most of the grass renaissance, stallkiller isn't even that great since stall is kinda mid rn | B | like any other water is better | B | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
36 |  | Victini | B+ | A- | A- | A-/B+ | U-turn + Toxic is good against all of its answers | A- | B+ | Yo what why we upvoting this? Nothing changed here, if anything it got worse with MTias, slow twins and MVenu all getting better | A- | Tox Turn kinda fire | A- | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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38 |  | Azumarill | B | B+ | HO staple | B | B+ | yes | B+ | B+ | Only breaker left for HO | B+ | CB is rly good | B+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
39 |  | Bisharp | B | B+ | Mini KGB kinda scary, abuses the fact that Aura isn't mandatory on MTias | B+ | B | no | B+ | B+ | Not outclassed by ttar anymore | B+ | CB is rly good | B+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
40 |  | Blissey | B | B | B | Remind me why is it possible to raise again | B | yes | B+ | B | Nothing changed here | B | CB is rly good? | B | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
41 |  | Chansey | B | B | C+ | Sending this with the goblin, i just think Blissey is so much better | B | B- | B | Better wall, but stall exclusive. That said, it's so good on stall that I think it's still worth being here | B | less splashable but better on stall | B | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
42 |  | Gallade-Mega | B | B+ | B+ | B | B | B | Idt enough changed here. It's a solid breaker, but if anything it lost its main in and is actually kinda outclassed by mienshao, let alone gapdos | B+ | Good breaker | B | (split so stay current rank) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
43 |  | Gardevoir-Mega | B | B+ | B+ | Abstain | B+ | B+ | Decent mon, not quite as stallkiller specific but still mostly a stallkiller | A- | lowkey this thing is hella underrated, speed tier is mid but its just so hard to switch into | B+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
44 |  | Mienshao | B | B | Scary mon but like, Gapdos | B | B+ | B | B+ | This is definitely better than B-, but I'm hesitant to put it higher since it's very much a breaker that relies on having a second breaker to support it. Unlike with Gapdos, this is all but exclusive to pivot moth cores to take advantage of its breaking. | A- | bro just run this with gapdos its sooooooooo good | B+ | think the A- brings it to B+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
45 |  | Sableye-Mega | B | Abstain | I will let Big Stall:tm: speak on this one | C+ | abstain | C+ | it SUCKS | B- | Stall nerfs hit hard man | B- | i think he is underrated, sealoo said that this makes playing against stall much more annoying and I agree, just having him in the back makes your opponents double guess every play | C+ | ? split but neither are existing rank, going with average | C+ is fine, rule is to underrank if there is a direct tie & neither is the OG rank | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
46 |  | Tapu-Bulu | B | B- | B- | B- | agree | B | B- | Balance breaker would be good if MVenu hadn't come back with a vengeance | B- | doesn't do anything | B- | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
47 |  | Thundurus | B | B | Has anyone used this? It looks like it should be scary rn but nobody's used it so I can't say. | B | Once he gets out of the paper i wil vote to raise it | B | B+ | Nothing like super widespread but on the HOs i have seen with this, its defo threatening. feels like u always want to run a zmove on it tho but thats also what makes it hella pwoerful | B | Just doesn't have the raw power to back it up, or the bulk to really let it set up | B | is fine but v weak, cool speed tier tho | B | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
48 |  | Tyranitar | B | B | "I'm sorry, Mega Tyranitar, but Tyranitar won't be replacing you." - National Dex KenjakOU | B | Hasn't gotten any better with the Mega gone | B | B | B | Nothing changed here | B- | tyraniMID | B | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
49 |  | Volcanion | B | B | B | abstain | offensive is good maybe if you trap Latias / King? | B | B | Nothing changed here | B | prolly good but nobody uses him | B | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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51 |  | Arcanine-Hisui | B- | C+ | C+ | What Runo said | C+ | Dog | C+ | Still hits hard but ngl I would rather just use one of Victini or Boulder instead of trying to compress with this | C+ | I feel like this is in prime position to be good with balance cores starting to be more and more present, but our removal sucks and a rocks weak breaker doesn't like that | C+ | grounds when head smash does 35 | C+ | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
52 |  | Dracozolt | B- | C | C | Hippo :( | C | :[ | C+ | Sand died :( | C+ | Rip sand | C | where sand | C | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
53 |  | Hawlucha | B- | C+ | Clef sits on it forever, Aegi usage rising doesn't help | C+ | C | drop lele | B | Broken if Aegislash didn't exist | B- | Nothing really changed here. Can be threatening, but it has no terrain setters since even fini is rare now, and its main targets aren't as present anymore | C+ | what terrain you even using all the setters suck ass | C+ | (majority) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
54 |  | Heracross-Mega | B- | B | Tbh why did this drop last slate? Most of same as for Buzzwole. Will say that Buzzwole having Roost and still 2HKOing most of the walls with Fist Plate makes this hard to justify, esp with mega slot now that MVenu is a lot freer now | B | B- | run Buzz or Conk; longevity or priority is much more useful than raw power | B | B | Genuinely feel like balance breakers are going to be really good for the next bit. And this one doesn't take status perpetually like conk | B | fine wallbreaker, sucks to use mega on it tho just use buzz bc it has roost | B | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
55 |  | Jirachi | B- | B- | B | B- | B- | B- | Fuck MGarde specifically ig | B- | only actual mgarde counter | B- | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
56 |  | Latias | B- | C+ | Significant opportunity cost over its mega and it honestly just kind of sucks | B | C+ | ttar is gone rip | C+ | C+ | Hey scarf defog healing wish is role compression, that's a niche.... right? | C+ | wtf does this even do | C+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
57 |  | Lokix | B- | B- | Solid mon, just super niche. Gapdos usage rising hurts it somewhat since it can't FI it. Doesn't abuse top tiers. | B- | Even tho the hype died i think this is a good placement regardless | B- | B- | hype's gone but I think Lokix comps are still fairly solid in this tier | B- | Thing is good, but not that good | B- | fine pivot, just worse than sciz in most cases tho | B- | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
58 |  | Mew | B- | C+ | Jack of all trades, master of none. HO not in position where it can go oogabooga with hazard spam anymore, exca offers much more to a team. NP Mewnium is probably alright? But, like, what setup opportunities? | C+ | C+ | run excadrill | C+ | ok so defensive sets actually suck :( | C+ | Carried by sheer versatility | C | defog bad, spikes bad, what do you even do other than lead | C+ | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
59 |  | Pecharunt | B- | B | B | mochi | B | broken4 | B | B | Not really done much with this myself, but I've seen the results | B | pecha won open so S+ | B | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
60 |  | Reuniclus | B- | B- | Might be fire actually idk, but for now I haven't seen anything | B- | abstain | B- | B- | I mean... it can choose not to run Z now? But Z is still its best set, otherwise it's just eternally blocked by lu, which means nothing really changed | B | lowkey a big threat, gotta find best set tho | B- | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
61 |  | Skeledirge | B- | B | Works on really fat balances | B | B | really annoying if you know how to use if properly | B | B | Fat balance and stall exclusive, but a moth counter is a moth counter | B | as a builder of said fat balances i can say this thing is great | B | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
62 |  | Zoroark-Hisui | B- | C+ | At least Gengar threatens stall, otherwise just use Blace | C+ | Call tritonzon | C | C+ | negative usage outside of the novice teams, needs a serious look at in the tier | C+ | I'd use it over anything else in C tier, and it has enough versatility to make up for a lack of power, but it's very niche | C | yall but it walls aegi | C+ | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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64 |  | Altaria-Mega | C+ | UR | Just use MTias :sob:. Offensive DD is some dogass, its only benefit is not being RKd as easily by gap but now instead every grass and steel walls you | C | So many tools and none of them are useful lmao | UR | :[ can we go back to gen 8 pls.... | UR | Terrible | C | Not, like, completely unusable ig? Enough to have a niche use case | C | prolly actually better with Tar gone, but not good at all | UR | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
65 |  | Arctozolt | C+ | Abstain | UR | UR | C+ | C+ | This tier is eternally weak to ice, which is only not catastrophically bad because this is our best ice type. But that does give it the niche of being our best ice type, and I've seen it shred defensive cores before | UR | snow isnt real | UR | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
66 |  | Blacephalon | C+ | B- | Specs is 50/50 devastating or do-nothing | B- | The HO cores with Iron Moth are actually kinda interesting | B | broken5 | B- | Non-scarf sets actually have some teeth to them now post Mtar, even then Z-Solar Beam was a nice innovation | B- | No ttar and pursuit trapping being less omnipresent means this can be actually good. Still struggles with lu being everywhere though | B- | specs is fantastic, there are like no fire resists that dont get decimated by overheat | B- | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
67 |  | Gengar | C+ | B- | Abuses clef unlike Horoark | C+ | C+ | good against clef but hits like a feather without setup + Zam, Zera, and Greninja ruins its day | C+ | could be ranked higher but in the same boat as Zoro | C | Way too many counters to this | C | abuses clef until knock or twave or switch into steela or gapdos or lu or... | C+ | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
68 |  | Goodra-Hisui | C+ | UR | Please stop trying to make stall work, it's not gonna happen | UR | UR | bad | UR | C | Eh, I still think it has a niche on stall, even if stall is niche itself. Compressing moth counter and MGarde check with knock off support is never going to be entirely bad | UR | not even good on stall bc of flygon | UR | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
69 |  | Kleavor | C+ | C | Has a good HO ever even used this? | C+ | UR | terrible (not surviving next slate) | C | never seen a good looking team with this mon, its always ran on like the most cheesiest looking shti i've ever seen and nothing else | C | Rocks lead is the only thing this is good for, but it's.. a niche ig? | UR | unusable | C | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
70 |  | Okidogi | C+ | B- | Fighting that abuses Clef? Yuuummy! | C+ | abstain | B- | B- | I've been doing really well with this recently | B- | FightZ on this is gas | B- | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
71 |  | Quaquaval | C+ | UR | MTar is gone, it can't hurt you anymore | C | UR | ttar :] | C | UR | TTar gone, you lost your niche | UR | its like kinda hazard control, but just use washer prolly | UR | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
72 |  | Quagsire | C+ | Abstain | C | C | C | C | Only very rarely do you want to run this next to clef, so it's otherwise outclassed | C | beats Boulder and uhhhhhhhhhhhh Victini | C | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
73 |  | Sinistcha | C+ | C | C+ | C | C+ | C+ | Outclassed by apple mostly, but usable | C+ | still prolly good just nobody uses it | C+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
74 |  | Slowbro-Mega | C+ | C+ | C+ | C+ | C+ | C+ | Nothing changed here | C+ | could prolly copy paste above for all the mons down here | C+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
75 |  | Swampert | C+ | C+ | Beats boots U-turn variants of moth since those don't tend to run eball | C+ | C | swampy | C+ | UR | Beats one variant of moth, and even then 'beats' is in quotation marks since you have no reliable recovery and take huge chip from attack into uturn | UR | ok not every mon ig this thing sux | C+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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77 |  | Conkeldurr | C | C | Facade vs Clef is probably alright, doesn't like helmet clef being nigh mandatory rn | C | C+ | really good against clef + guss | C | Needs more usage | C | Balance breaker is decent | C | ig it beats clef? | C | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
78 |  | Decidueye-Hisui | C | Abstain | UR | UR | C | Scrappy is probably still something | C | Balance breaker is decent | UR | either outsped by mvenu or fails to OHKO clef with Z | UR | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
79 |  | Ditto | C | C | C | abstain | C+ | C+ | I'd use this over most other stuff here, but it's still not great | UR | haven't ever seen this used by someone other than Runo | C | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
80 |  | Mamoswine | C | UR | UR | UR | C | UR | Good stab combo but it struggles to actually come in on anything, and if it sees a slowbro it cries | UR | doesn't even beat Skarm/Washer | UR | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
81 |  | Ribombee | C | C+ | C+ | C+ | C+ | C+ | Webs decent | C+ | webs r ok | C+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
82 |  | Salamence | C | UR | Call me crazy but I'm wondering if DD Hax is better in this meta now that Clef is nigh mandatory on anything fatter than steela | C | UR | :sob: | C | UR | DDance does nothing and defog does less | UR | what the bird doin? | UR | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
83 |  | Terrakion | C | C | C | UR | i said it! | UR | UR | Completely outclassed by boulder | UR | pls just use boulder | UR | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
84 |  | Zygarde-10 | C | C | Ig it's good enough to stay ranked for now | C | Abstain | C | C | I'm a bit more of a believer in this, good speed tier and ability to hit washer and birbs is good. It just can't come in on anything with how frail it is, and the regen grasses other than hydrapple completely stifle it | C | its like so borderline but abusing birbs + washer is ok | C | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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86 |  | Zarude | Unranked | C+ | It's better Scarf Hydreigon, could easily be much higher in the future | C | I'm a big fan of SD sets but i haven't touched Scarf yet. Still has a lot of flaws tho | C/UR | Scarf is interesting but Clefable and Zap everywhere sucks for it | C+ | Choice Scarf seems pretty nice | C | Scarf is usable enough, and the main point is that it allows gapdos to run band rather than scarf | UR | idt this guy is usable, scarf cant touch like half the tier and it doesnt force enough out to be spamming Turn | C | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
87 |  | Mandibuzz | Unranked | UR | Still ass, what does this fog on besides Ting? Every other rocker punishes it to hell and most of the top tiers abuse the shit out of it. | C+ | Ttar is gone, Aegi is broken, we get Runo out of the cage (no you never fog with it, defog mandi is ass) | UR | C | C | It's okay removal, you beat SD aegi and lu at least | UR | I used this guy once and it just brought in clef every time so uhh its mid | C | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
88 |  | Flygon | Unranked | C | Solid role compression for fat | C | C | C+ | Read my post grr + it actually fits nice on fat teams not just stall | C | Maybe not quite stall exclusive, but I'd use just about any other defogger first | C+ | pretty deece actually, only fits on stall tho :) | C | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
89 |  | Iron-Leaves | Unranked | Abstain | Possibly fire? | UR | Sorry Rafa | Abstain | (never tested Leaves) | C | solid on HO since coverage can maul most teams if built right | C | Either too slow or too weak depending on which booster you use | C | lowkey rly threatening but either walled by Skarm or Sciz and always by aegi | C | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
90 |  | Porygon-Z | Unranked | UR | Better HO mons rn | UR | I feel like this has potential with M-Ttar gone but it despises most of the steels | UR | UR | Matchup fish + u need to waste ur Z on this, unless this can suddenly beat all of its checks like last gen then count me out | UR | HO nerf | UR | what yall said | UR | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
91 |  | Ogerpon | Unranked | UR | No Tera L, get this shit outta here. Abused by like half the meta. Just use Zarude, all pon outspeeds rude doesn't is Mideo and Blacepalow usage. Scarf sets don't have the same utility as Zarude and can't RK moth unlike rude. | Abstain | I wanna use this one day. If Zarude has some niches then maybe this thing too as they share a lot of things (The lack of a Dark resist hurts tho) | UR | Rillaboom is dropping next shifts fr. we don't need pon | UR | Oger in an Aegi, Iron Moth, Steela, Skarm, Mvenu, etc, etc tier | UR | Hits like a wet noodle into everything | UR | lol | UR | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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