Systems Thinking usage survey 2013 (Responses)
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TimestampWhat level of knowledge or experience do you have of Systems Thinking?Your ageHow often do you use Systems Thinking?Why do you not use it more often?Other reasons why you are not using it more oftenWhy are you not learning more about Systems Thinking?Other reasons for why you are not learning more about Systems Thinking
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academia, business management and maybe management of governmental agenciesI have read several books on it and have used it many times.30-40Rarely or neverI find it difficult to apply on real world problems., I do not want to impose my style of thinking on others., I am not convinced it provides added value for the problems I am working on., ST does not match how things are being done in my organization., ST is too vague. There are no fixed criteria you can use to tell if you are using it or not., I do not want to be looked on as the besserwisser., I don't want to think all day long. ST requires too much thinking., People do not understand or see the value of my ST presentations., I am afraid that people will think I am crazy when I show them my lengthy ST analysis., ST is not comprehensive/complete. I can only use it for parts of the inquiry., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins., I am rewarded for doing specialized tasks. Not for predicting the future and pointing out how things may be connected., You can't measure its effect., Managers don't care what my ST shows anyway. They only hear what they want to hear.I am not convinced it is more effective than other ways of doing inquiry., ST has no process or framework so it becomes too abstract and philosophical for my taste., It is difficult to learn about ST. Poor quality or ambiguous learning material/courses., I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/23/2013 19:11:50I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.60-70Once a weekI do not want to impose my style of thinking on others., ST is too vague. There are no fixed criteria you can use to tell if you are using it or not.ST has no process or framework so it becomes too abstract and philosophical for my taste., There is no ST diploma or skill level I can brag about.
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2/23/2013 22:25:47I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.70+DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/24/2013 12:42:57I have had it introduced to me or I have read about it shortly.30-40Rarely or neverI feel I don't know enough about ST.I don't have time., I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/25/2013 18:28:15I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.50-60Once a weekI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins., Managers don't care what my ST shows anyway. They only hear what they want to hear.ST is not perceived by my peers as professional enough., I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/26/2013 19:06:17I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.50-60DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.
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2/26/2013 21:49:50I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.60-70I am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use., I do not want to impose my style of thinking on others., ST does not match how things are being done in my organization., People do not understand or see the value of my ST presentations., Managers don't care what my ST shows anyway. They only hear what they want to hear.Audience thinks context is irrelevant and are confident in their assumptions, if they even know what they are.I don't have time., I am in the process of learning more about STBefore STW, there wasn't enough group support to motivate continued learned, even from my worldwide network of ST colleagues (who tend to be mere critics and non-joiners)
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2/26/2013 21:50:17I have read several books on it and have used it many times.50-60Once a weekI do not want to impose my style of thinking on others., I am afraid that people will think I am crazy when I show them my lengthy ST analysis., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins., Managers don't care what my ST shows anyway. They only hear what they want to hear.I don't have time.
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2/26/2013 21:50:55I have read several books on it and have used it many times.60-70DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/26/2013 21:52:01I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.40-50DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/26/2013 21:54:57I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.60-70DailyUntil the 'T' in ST is expanded to mean modes of thought other than the use Aristotelian logic and Cartesian assumption about the nature of the mind we will make no progress...
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2/26/2013 21:55:04I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.50-60DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.
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2/26/2013 21:55:08I have read several books on it and have used it many times.50-60Once a weekI am just too impatient.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/26/2013 21:55:48I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.60-70DailyThe mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins.I am in the process of learning more about STNeed more avenues
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2/26/2013 21:56:55I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.50-60Once a weekST does not match how things are being done in my organization., People do not understand or see the value of my ST presentations.There are systems reasons for this - the evaluation community is a tightly knit community that is immersed in the reductive, linear paragdigm - even if you were once part of that community - just talking about ST pushes you out into the periphery to a position of less power and legitimacy, even if you previously had more legitimacy with less professional experience.ST is not perceived by my peers as professional enough.I had to create my own interdisciplinary PhD program (2001 to 2005) to learn about ST as part of a health policy and evaluation PhD. Luckily, I had access to some stars in the field - but even they argued with each other a lot, especially about how to use ST and complex systems theory in evaluation. That is continuing to be a big debate!
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2/26/2013 21:59:30I have had it introduced to me or I have read about it shortly.30-40Rarely or neverI feel I don't know enough about ST.I am not convinced it is more effective than other ways of doing inquiry., I have little or no use for it., It is difficult to learn about ST. Poor quality or ambiguous learning material/courses., I find ST difficult to understand., I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/26/2013 22:00:26I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.30-40Dailyother people don't understand it easily and it can be hard to collaborateI'm learning as much as I possibly can.
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2/26/2013 22:27:23I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.60-70DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.
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2/26/2013 22:39:07I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.60-70DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.
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2/26/2013 22:44:53I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.50-60DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/26/2013 22:50:15I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.50-60DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/26/2013 23:04:58I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.50-60Once a weekI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.
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2/26/2013 23:08:24I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.30-40Once a monthST does not match how things are being done in my organization., People do not understand or see the value of my ST presentations., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins., I am rewarded for doing specialized tasks. Not for predicting the future and pointing out how things may be connected., I feel I don't know enough about ST.I am still learning ST. This needs time...

There is no ST diploma or skill level I can brag about., I am in the process of learning more about STI think doing ST together with others (best: interdisciplinary) is a bigger learning experience than trying to figure things out alone. Finding others who are nearby, open and interested to do this together needs some time and luck :)
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2/26/2013 23:10:44I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.50-60DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.
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2/26/2013 23:23:59I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.50-60Daily
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2/26/2013 23:24:43I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.40-50DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.I work as a consultant and am using it to help structure my own thoughts. I find it difficult to explain to clients that haven't been exposed to it. It is difficult to learn about ST. Poor quality or ambiguous learning material/courses., I am in the process of learning more about STI have a basic understanding of model building. Most of my knowledge comes from looking at other models and understanding how the developer constructed them. ST World has been very valuable to find new sources of information.
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2/26/2013 23:29:22I have had it introduced to me or I have read about it shortly.60-70DailyThe mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins.I believe that systems are embedded in life, consciously and subconsciously I always think about systems as reasons for the way things are.In evaluating work, lifestyle and political and other social contexts. As a non scientist I am ignorant of many terms/ causal loop diagrams and shibboleths! used but I am attracted to writers that I have discovered to be key STW discussions.

This questionnaire could be improved I think!
This questionnaire could be improved I think Non of these tick box questions are relevant to me
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2/26/2013 23:36:16I have had it introduced to me or I have read about it shortly.50-60DailyThe mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/26/2013 23:40:11I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.50-60Once a monthI find it difficult to apply on real world problems.I remain to be convinced of the value and credibility of the approachI find ST difficult to understand.
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2/26/2013 23:40:36I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.70+DailyThe mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/26/2013 23:42:12I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.40-50DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/26/2013 23:42:28I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.50-60Once a monthI feel I don't know enough about ST.I don't have time.
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2/26/2013 23:48:51I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.70+DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.
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2/26/2013 23:58:09I have read several books on it and have used it many times.30-40DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use., I find it difficult to apply on real world problems., ST is too vague. There are no fixed criteria you can use to tell if you are using it or not.It is difficult to learn about ST. Poor quality or ambiguous learning material/courses.
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2/27/2013 0:03:00I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.30-40Rarely or neverThe mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins., I am rewarded for doing specialized tasks. Not for predicting the future and pointing out how things may be connected.I find my peers surprisingly uninterested, i also find that, similar to sustainability, people have different interpretations and understandings of systems thinking, i do not currently have a job that allows me to apply this knowledge, but i am actively trying to find or initiate projects where it is useful, i am also about to undertake some teaching where i can incorporate some systems thinking in design.I am in the process of learning more about STI am doing what i can to self educate, and i wish people actually valued self education as a skill in itself.
There is a varied application of ST, i have come to through one of these, i would like to go to the source, but wonder if it will be abstracted?
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2/27/2013 0:05:24I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.70+DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.Exercising ST to deal with daily problems invariably causes one to learn more about the many facets of ST. To me ST is both a method of problem solving, but also philosophy through which all experience can be understood.
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2/27/2013 0:05:37I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.60-70DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/27/2013 0:27:32I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.60-70DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.Currently it is not a priority at my place of work.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/27/2013 0:29:11I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.30-40DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use., ST is too vague. There are no fixed criteria you can use to tell if you are using it or not., ST is not comprehensive/complete. I can only use it for parts of the inquiry., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins.ST has no process or framework so it becomes too abstract and philosophical for my taste., ST is not perceived by my peers as professional enough., It is difficult to learn about ST. Poor quality or ambiguous learning material/courses.
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2/27/2013 0:30:26I have read several books on it and have used it many times.60-70Once a monthI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use., People do not understand or see the value of my ST presentations., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins., I feel I don't know enough about ST.Clients do not want to see root cause. ST is not perceived by my peers as professional enough., I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/27/2013 1:07:56I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.50-60Rarely or neverWasn't sure how to answer that question. I never make formal diagrams, because I don't know how and I don't think in terms of the vocabulary that is used in tthem. On the other hand, I am always thinking in terms of systems and interrelationships and interconnections as I work with the brain and people with brains living in larger systems and one really can't avoid it ;-)It is difficult to learn about ST. Poor quality or ambiguous learning material/courses., I don't have time., I am in the process of learning more about STI tried to do a self-study course, but got stuck when I couldn't understand how to use the software it came with (not yours, of course ;-). I understood the concepts, but couldn't practice the application.

Again, it's the definition of Systems Thinking that's also throwing me a bit. I am always learning about dynamical, self-regulating, self-organizing complex systems and the implications of those qualities for Life, but I haven't felt the lack of using the vocabulary and diagrams I associate with "systems thinking" as an approach of its own. Curious, but not driven.
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2/27/2013 2:06:27I have had it introduced to me or I have read about it shortly.60-70Rarely or neverI find it difficult to apply on real world problems.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/27/2013 2:09:22I have read several books on it and have used it many times.30-40Once a weekI rather wait a bit, to see more into the given situation before I give my ST feedback. Ex. Today I went to meeting where was extensively discussed a new system- approach to data collection for a database for certain Ontario Ministry. I this the project is too wide, to be handled the way it is. I saw leverage point everywhere. :) I don't have time.Time is the only issue. Should the day have 78hr I would manage it. And it actually bothers me, cause I see the perspective of ST in what I do.
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2/27/2013 2:30:39I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.60-70Once a weekI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use., ST is too vague. There are no fixed criteria you can use to tell if you are using it or not., ST is not comprehensive/complete. I can only use it for parts of the inquiry., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins., You can't measure its effect., Managers don't care what my ST shows anyway. They only hear what they want to hear.It is time consuming to use well. Others are impatient with process analysis. It takes the focus off of organizational super stars and big egos who need to be the center of attention. Boundary issues are difficult to define. Others discount its value, saying everything is connected to everything else, so what? It is difficult to learn about ST. Poor quality or ambiguous learning material/courses.As a teacher, I find that really good introductory books for non-technical graduate students are rare and many consultants' books tend to be too expensive for use in only 1-2 class sessions within a course. Guidance how to teach ST to others has been difficult to locate. The ST community seems to be insular and focused on talking to each other and the ST past.
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2/27/2013 4:28:17I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.50-60Once a weekI find it difficult to apply on real world problems., People do not understand or see the value of my ST presentations., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins., I feel I don't know enough about ST.It is difficult to learn about ST. Poor quality or ambiguous learning material/courses., I don't have time., I find ST difficult to understand., I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/27/2013 4:36:40I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.60-70DailyI use it regularly for my own work and personal life. However, I have trouble explaining it to others.It is difficult to learn about ST. Poor quality or ambiguous learning material/courses., I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/27/2013 5:44:39I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.70+DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.There is no ST diploma or skill level I can brag about., It is difficult to learn about ST. Poor quality or ambiguous learning material/courses., I don't feel welcome in the ST community., I am in the process of learning more about STlack of sufficient high quality reference texts etc

no perceived value by the public. this leads mgmt to put roadblocks in the way and substitute bureureacracy like cmmi , agile, and just plan erroneous but popular approaches.
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2/27/2013 7:43:15I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.40-50Rarely or neverI find it difficult to apply on real world problems., I am just too impatient., I feel I don't know enough about ST.I don't have time.It is difficult to start modeling and applying ST to own problem domain even I have read books and articles with clear and good examples.
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2/27/2013 7:56:58I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.50-60DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use., I do not want to impose my style of thinking on others., Managers don't care what my ST shows anyway. They only hear what they want to hear.I use a particular model of systems thinking an applied model of "A theory of Living Human Systems" (TLHS)developed by Yvonne Agazarian. This is applied in a clinical context as System-Centered Therapy(SCT) which is a registered brand. this can make it awkward to apply as openly as I would like but I use TLHS in nearly all my work, thinking, analysis and in assimilating new information. The key foe me is in the "living" part it grows and develops like any living systemI have none
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2/27/2013 8:13:38I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.50-60Once a monthI find it difficult to apply on real world problems., ST is not comprehensive/complete. I can only use it for parts of the inquiry., I feel I don't know enough about ST.I don't always remember - I may be focussing 'on the problem itself' and not remember I have a series of analytical tools I can draw on.

I am not competent enough in systems thinking - so I probably don't know which aspects are the relevant ones to use in any given situation and I will not necessarily apply them correctly.

It may not always be key to the solution of the issue I am thinking about (even if it does have some part to play). (E.g. Does systems thinking provide the answers you are looking for from this survey?)
It is not quite any of these things. It is not that there are reasons not to (boring, not sexy etc.). It is more a question of if and when it rises high up enough the priority, or 'to do', list to actually get done. That's not quite the same as 'don't have time' - there is time, but there are many competing pressures for it.

What would change that? Being reminded, or told, how ST could help with particular things I am working on. The provision of a resource that promised to be intellectually exciting and practically helpful might be a prompt. That would be something that explained the principles (and pointed to other sources where they already exist) but then had lots of examples of how you could use it practically in your day to day role as a manager, consultant or whatever.
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2/27/2013 8:26:15I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.60-70Once a monthI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use., I do not want to impose my style of thinking on others., ST does not match how things are being done in my organization., I do not want to be looked on as the besserwisser., I don't want to think all day long. ST requires too much thinking., ST requires a suspension of self-interest. I am not able to push my interests., I am afraid that people will think I am crazy when I show them my lengthy ST analysis., You can't measure its effect.People need to be educated abut ST. For many the concept is still nor comprehended ST is not perceived by my peers as professional enough., I don't have time.
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2/27/2013 8:43:17I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.<30Once a weekI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use., I do not want to impose my style of thinking on others., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins.
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2/27/2013 8:56:05I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.30-40DailyI use ST daily. For me, it has become a way of seeing the world around me and this has helped me immensely in better understanding everything from personal relationships to the economic and ecological crises we're experiencing. Systems thinking has been such a life-changing "tool", that a friend and I are running workshops on "holistic thinking" (which includes systems thinking, but also explores the importance of narratives and worldviews) to give these important tools to average, ordinary people (ie- non-academics). I am in the process of learning more about STI would like to say that I think ST has been marketed as a tool for academia, business management and maybe management of governmental agencies. I have done a lot of searching online and there are very few people (online at least) who are trying to give ST tools to non-academic, non-managerial people. I think this is a huge loss and keeps ST stuck in an ivory tower when it should be down on the ground helping with the daily chores. Linda Booth Sweeney is doing an incredible job, teaching children systems thinking. My colleague and I are trying to do the same for adults. We aren't making much money with it, but that's not the point. I think ST has gotten stuck because so many practitioners just want to apply it in ways that will make money. (Remember, the goal of the system is one of the biggest leverage points :) Also, I find that the language of ST is often exclusionary. For our workshops, we've had to make the language of ST more relate-able to our audiences who come from all walks of life and have varying levels of education.

Thanks for doing this survey!
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2/27/2013 11:21:50I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.40-50DailyI strive to use it everyday but may not be able to act upon it due to the systems conditions of my work placei am learning more about it
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2/27/2013 11:50:45I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.50-60Daily
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2/27/2013 12:32:02I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.50-60DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use., I do not want to impose my style of thinking on others., I feel I don't know enough about ST.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/27/2013 13:18:40I have read several books on it and have used it many times.50-60Once a monthThe mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/27/2013 13:20:17I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.60-70Rarely or neverSeen as too complex.

Requires a lot of trust that other people/parts of the Organization will buy-in to the approach over the medium to long term.
ST has no process or framework so it becomes too abstract and philosophical for my taste.
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2/27/2013 14:32:30I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.<30Rarely or neverI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use., I am not convinced it provides added value for the problems I am working on., I am rewarded for doing specialized tasks. Not for predicting the future and pointing out how things may be connected., I feel I don't know enough about ST.It is difficult to learn about ST. Poor quality or ambiguous learning material/courses.I don't know how to start, what path to follow. How to pick materials to learn from.
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2/27/2013 14:58:48I have read several books on it and have used it many times.60-70Once a weekI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.ST has no process or framework so it becomes too abstract and philosophical for my taste.
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2/27/2013 16:41:08I have read several books on it and have used it many times.30-40Once a weekST does not match how things are being done in my organization., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins., I am rewarded for doing specialized tasks. Not for predicting the future and pointing out how things may be connected., I feel I don't know enough about ST.Lack of local movement that would give more reason for business to use ST. I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/27/2013 16:50:00I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.60-70DailyI find the negativity of this question incongruent with my thinking...
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2/27/2013 17:20:28I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.70+DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/27/2013 17:34:57I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.50-60DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/27/2013 17:35:32I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.40-50DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use., I do not want to impose my style of thinking on others., I am not convinced it provides added value for the problems I am working on., ST does not match how things are being done in my organization., I do not want to be looked on as the besserwisser., People do not understand or see the value of my ST presentations., I am afraid that people will think I am crazy when I show them my lengthy ST analysis., ST is not comprehensive/complete. I can only use it for parts of the inquiry., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins., I am rewarded for doing specialized tasks. Not for predicting the future and pointing out how things may be connected., Managers don't care what my ST shows anyway. They only hear what they want to hear.Systems thinking is not a theory of everything. It's ontologically deterministic and therefore complements and adds (albeit significantly) to other techniques.

I work in complex, open systems so systems thinking has limitations in understanding the full range of challenges across innovative or abductive activities. But I often loosen out into General Systems Theory for synthesis and back into systems thinking for inductive and deductive analysis.
I am not convinced it is more effective than other ways of doing inquiry., ST is not perceived by my peers as professional enough., I am in the process of learning more about STGets a bit atomistic with people proselytising their favourite words and models and flogging old horses with new names, loosing its pluralistic origins. On the other hand I am learning and advancing the thinking everyday, but it's not the be all and end all.
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2/27/2013 19:33:02I have read several books on it and have used it many times.60-70Once a weekI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/27/2013 20:45:32I have read several books on it and have used it many times.50-60DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/27/2013 22:15:20I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.60-70Rarely or neverI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.... but that is not very oftenI am mainly retired, so most of what I 'learn' is now either for interest, or because I need to use it in my residual work or other activity. I find the ST concepts helpful (along with many other core ideas acquired over the years). Until I came across this group I had no idea there was a 'community'. My first exposure to 'systems thinking' was reading Checkland's book many years ago, and it chimed with other ideas in my background as a control engineer, then systems engineer and my eventual career as a Human Factors consultant.
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2/28/2013 3:33:10I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.40-50DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.I don't have time.
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2/28/2013 7:09:43I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.50-60Once a weekI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/28/2013 12:02:12I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.40-50DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins.I use it often. But I can say why people surrounding me don't use it often. They think it's abstract. It's not solving problems the way they would like, because they are stuck with the linear model and can't see the big picture. Not only they can't see it, they don't want to see it. Their daily life is based on linear assumptions, and the status quo is what they look for. They are wealthy Swiss people, and are not interested in changing anything around them. It's understandable. Short term future is all what our brain seems to be programmed for. It needs effort to look further away. ST needs some effort before really grasping its concepts. People are too busy maintaining their achievements - both material and spiritual - to decide to look further away.ST is not perceived by my peers as professional enough., I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/28/2013 14:58:45I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.40-50DailyThe mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins., I am rewarded for doing specialized tasks. Not for predicting the future and pointing out how things may be connected., I feel I don't know enough about ST.If others understood ST better, it would be easier to use more frequently.There is no ST diploma or skill level I can brag about., ST is not perceived by my peers as professional enough., I am in the process of learning more about STI am slowly realizing that I am a natural systems thinker, due to my transdisciplinary background, sensory plus logical way of thinking and interests. Now that I am more aware of who I am and how much of a ST I am, I will learn much more about ST. I am familiar with some authors in philosophy and social sciences who are system thinkers.
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2/28/2013 16:08:00I have read several books on it and have used it many times.50-60Once a monthST does not match how things are being done in my organization., People do not understand or see the value of my ST presentations., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins., Managers don't care what my ST shows anyway. They only hear what they want to hear.I don't have time.
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2/28/2013 17:30:56I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.40-50DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.There is no ST diploma or skill level I can brag about., I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/28/2013 18:04:11I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.50-60Once a monthI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use., ST does not match how things are being done in my organization., People do not understand or see the value of my ST presentations., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins., I am rewarded for doing specialized tasks. Not for predicting the future and pointing out how things may be connected.The main reason is that few people are able to grasp it and fewer willing to apply their minds to it.I don't have time., I am in the process of learning more about ST
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2/28/2013 22:44:00I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.50-60DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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3/1/2013 4:20:36I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.40-50Once a week
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3/1/2013 14:34:21I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.60-70DailyI find the question puzzling. First because you haven't defined "ST", a term understiood differently by different people. I understand it to be thinking grounded in an understanding and awareness of interdependence. I believe some people mature into that ability and when that happens, thats how you think. It's not like an appliance, a microwave that you choose to use or not. You may choose to ignore an interdependence if it's not particularly relevant, but choosing to ignore is different from being unaware of or being unable to be aware of interdependence. Learning about it doesn't get me much. I just use it. Corporations "teach" employees systems thinking and the eveyone talks about how 2 + 2 = 5. Then the same corporation puts in a job grading approach or a compensation approach that treats a role as the sum of its parts.

herb@tfmc.ca
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3/1/2013 22:43:16I have read several books on it and have used it many times.60-70Once a weekI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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3/3/2013 2:37:45I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.70+Rarely or neverI find it difficult to apply on real world problems., ST requires a suspension of self-interest. I am not able to push my interests., I feel I don't know enough about ST.I am not convinced it is more effective than other ways of doing inquiry., ST has no process or framework so it becomes too abstract and philosophical for my taste., I find ST difficult to understand., I am in the process of learning more about STI may not be smart enough.
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3/3/2013 22:47:21I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.30-40Rarely or neverI find it difficult to apply on real world problems., I do not want to impose my style of thinking on others., ST does not match how things are being done in my organization., ST is too vague. There are no fixed criteria you can use to tell if you are using it or not., I do not want to be looked on as the besserwisser., I don't want to think all day long. ST requires too much thinking., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins., I am rewarded for doing specialized tasks. Not for predicting the future and pointing out how things may be connected., I feel I don't know enough about ST., Managers don't care what my ST shows anyway. They only hear what they want to hear.I am not convinced it is more effective than other ways of doing inquiry., I find ST difficult to understand., I am in the process of learning more about ST
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3/4/2013 1:27:26I have read a few articles or a book about it. I have made a couple of simple causal loop diagrams.50-60Once a monthI find it difficult to apply on real world problems., ST does not match how things are being done in my organization., ST is too vague. There are no fixed criteria you can use to tell if you are using it or not., The mainstream is overly focused on short term goals, bottom line and quick wins., I feel I don't know enough about ST.I am in the process of learning more about ST
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3/4/2013 7:32:37I have been following Systems Thinking and related topics for years. I use it extensively.30-40DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.There is no ST diploma or skill level I can brag about.
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3/5/2013 11:37:02I have read several books on it and have used it many times.30-40Once a monthI find it difficult to apply on real world problems., I am rewarded for doing specialized tasks. Not for predicting the future and pointing out how things may be connected.ST has no process or framework so it becomes too abstract and philosophical for my taste., ST is not sexy, cool or trendy. (Appealing), I find ST difficult to understand.
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3/8/2013 23:34:06I have had it introduced to me or I have read about it shortly.40-50Once a monthST does not match how things are being done in my organization., I am rewarded for doing specialized tasks. Not for predicting the future and pointing out how things may be connected., I feel I don't know enough about ST.I find ST difficult to understand., I am in the process of learning more about STI haven't seen practical examples of it being used successfully in everyday business affairs and am not sure what techniques to use when
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3/13/2013 17:01:06I have had it introduced to me or I have read about it shortly.50-60I feel I don't know enough about ST.I haven't found a way to actually learn ST. What I started to read wasn't appealing enough to dig into it all.I am not convinced it is more effective than other ways of doing inquiry., It is difficult to learn about ST. Poor quality or ambiguous learning material/courses., I find ST difficult to understand.
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3/23/2013 16:14:15I contribute to the field by writing papers/books on the topic or teach/provide training.50-60DailyI am already using it as much as I can when I come across situations that warrants its use.
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