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1SourceSubjectQuestionJack's Response/Paraphrase of his responseHave Other Emails from Jack? Email them to emailsfromjack@gmail.com. I'll remove your identity and add them to this list.
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2Mario Marturano Process of Figuring it OutCurt Gowdy Youtube Chat CommentCandy said jack said the solve is tied to a strong emotion of ff that he doesnt understand
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3Youtube videoGeneral Treasure LocationPacker Jack Video Chat -​I think Jack answering my question about if any authority or representative from Yellowstone National Park had contacted him or his representation with “I don't want to comment on that” says it all.
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4Amy SeeksJack's FutureQ1) will you let us know the fate of the chest once you have determined it, perhaps through medium or will we need to keep our ears to the ground listening for any news?
A1) yes
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5Amy SeeksSimplicityQ2) you have kindly ruled out a few things like GPS that will not help a seeker solve TTOTC... can you bring to light what else is not helpful or involved? Perhaps things you saw other seekers use that were not required or helpful?
A2) "Straightforward with no subterfuge in sight" is very important to remember and probably even rules out a majority of "solves." The poem is written from his perspective just like any of his other poems, and he's not trying to trick anyone or create the world's greatest puzzle or be clever. It's befitting the man and you do have to study him, I think, to definitively figure it out.
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6Amy SeeksBOTG - Chest Retrieval Q3) what was that process like of finding the chest, contacting Forrest to retrieve it and then going back for it and heading for Santa Fe? (We are assuming that you left the chest to go ask for permission due to the instructions found in the chest?) and how difficult was it to leave the chest after finding it to get permission?
A3) Not difficult at all, but I understand why that surprises people. It was sitting in just about the safest place in the world for it. Nobody had found it in all those years there. I had stood within 6 feet of it early on in the search season in 2019 without finding it, so I doubted anyone else would find it after I left it there just like it had been.
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7Amy SeeksBOTG - Chest Retrieval Q4) do you still have the instructions left by Forrest in the chest? Is that an image you can share with us or would that reveal more than you are comfortable with? Even a partial image would be amazing.
A4) I don't want to put out any of our legal documentation, sorry.
A4) I don't want to put out any of our legal documentation, sorry.
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8Amy SeeksGeneral Treasure LocationQ5) how soon after getting your TTOTC book did you have your search area pinned down and gone on your first search?A5) In a matter of weeks, less than two months, I had the germ of the idea and went out there. I also did some recons in the same area, but I went out there principally because this location did have evidence in its favor. And as time went on, as much as I didn't want the treasure to be there, I found too much evidence to reasonably believe it could be elsewhere.
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9Amy SeeksBlazeQ6) you mention on Dal's q&a that the blaze must have been damaged or destroyed...if someone still working on TTOTC correctly solves it, will this be a problem for them to find the exact nook? Is the blaze missing or damaged beyond helpfulness?

A6) I think it would be very difficult to "read" it as a blaze with the treasure no longer sitting there under it. I had been within 6 feet of it before without realizing it was the blaze.
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10- Logan Hint of RichesWWWHIf you released a photo of WWWH, Would it give away the solve?No, but I guess it would give away WWWH
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11- Logan Hint of RichesGeneral Treasure Location1. If you released a photo of the treasure location, Would it reveal the location?
2. If the answer is no, Would you be willing to share a photo?
1. I don't know. Depends on what the photo is of, I suppose. People had been within 200 ft
2. No, sorry
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12- Logan Hint of RichesWWWHWhat is the approximate distance between WWWH and where you found the treasure.
I can say it's too far to walk
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13- Logan Hint of RichesJack's FutureAre Forrest Fenns ashes at or are going to be at the treasure location?I will say I was aware of that comment and did offer to make that happen. His family wants that stuff to remain private, so I will not reveal if I did or not. But if you're asking in the hopes you could find an urn there, no you could not.
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14- Logan Hint of RichesJack's Futurehave you thought about saving the same location to have your ashes rest?NO
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15- Logan Hint of RichesGeneral Treasure LocationIf everything went as FF had first planned and took his life at the spot. Do you think you would have found the treasure a lot sooner with a body at the spot?Certainly
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16- Logan Hint of RichesGeneral Treasure Locationwhere was the location? lol jk.Wyoming
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17- Logan Hint of RichesBlazeWas the blaze, a man made blaze with writing on it?Not revealing the blaze
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18thehomeofBrown.com - HORFenn's QuotesOne of the most debated answers Forrest published was regarding "the little girl in India." Would you be willing to tell why this fictional girl couldn't get "closer" than the first two clues with just Forrest's poem and a map of the Rocky Mountains?
It's very difficult to answer a hypothetical like that because everyone brings their own preconceived notions into it. To me, it's because she has no context. She doesn't even have the book.
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19BigOnus - HORJack's FutureIs it possible to carry the blaze as hand luggage?You could certainly try. It wouldn’t be wise skipping customs.
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20Redneck Girl Hint of Riches Home of BrownIt‘s been rumored that Forrest said you were the only person to correctly identify the hoB. As far as you know, is that a true statement? Were you the only person to correctly identify hoB?I didn't ask him that, but it wouldn't surprise me. At the same time, it wouldn't surprise me if someone figured that out and hadn't told him. I didn't before I met him.
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21Redneck Girl Hint of Riches Home of BrownDid you figure out hoB before you ever went BOTG to your search area?Yes
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22Redneck Girl Hint of Riches Home of BrownWas Brown one of Forrest’s names for the chest and hoB the location of the chest?No
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23Hint of RichesCiphers/GPS/AnagramI asked: Any thoughts on the fact your numbers cipher out to "hid cache".... I know you said you randomly typed to get these numbers- but like.... cmon lol. the odds of this are ridiculousJack’s response: Ben, if you look hard enough for a coincidence, you'll always find one
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24Hint of RichesPoem - Detail1. I once asked Jack if he would mind if someone posted the solution...
2. I also asked him if he would consider hiding a token at the spot redeemable for a second place prize of silver so that the search could continue...
1. He said that he didn't care because no one would believe it anyway without his or Forrest's words to back it up...
2. He declined...
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25Hint of RichesScrapbooks/Other WritingsDid the scrapbooks have hints? I don’t think he put hints in the scrapbooks.
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26Reddit - MashTunOfFunEvidenceI asked Jack specifically if it was a waste of time to keep trying to find the general search area. Or, was it possible to narrow down the general search area to a few acres *without any doubt*, using just the poem, book and map. In other words, figure out where to go BOTG even if the chest is no longer there. He said: "yes, there is definitely enough evidence to do that."
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27Redneck Girl 1/17/21, 10:43 AM WWWHMost people seem to think the word “halt” means that the warm waters physically stop moving. Is it possible that Forrest was using a different definition of halt such as “come to an end”?He said he used a dictionary to make sure he was using the words correctly. They were all used correctly, I think. Any definition that strictly makes sense in context could be correct, and I don't want to narrow things down beyond that.
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28Redneck Girl 1/17/21, 10:43 AM Fenn's QuotesThis is something that’s been bothering me for a long time because it seems like it was a deliberate attempt by Forrest to mislead. In the NM tourism video Forrest said “If I were standing where the treasure chest is, I’d see trees, I’d see mountains, I’d see animals, I’d smell the wonderful smells of pine needles or pinion nuts, sagebrush, and I’d know the treasure chest is wet.” Since the treasure was in Wyoming we now know that there weren’t any pinion nuts, but I’m still wondering about the sagebrush. Was there any sagebrush within 200 feet of the chest?The word "or" is important there. He didn't say "and," so he wasn't saying all three of pine needles, pinion, and sagebrush are present. He was evoking the kind of place it is and trying not to be too specific about the geography, I think. I don't want to say how far away the nearest sagebrush was, but obviously it was in a pine forest, not a sagebrush field.
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2901-16-2021, 10:42 PM SangreDeCristo - HORSlipupLet me get this straightened out, you were able to find the chest by recognizing an interview slip-up?No, the slip-ups didn't give everything away. They just helped me to see some elements of the overall picture
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3001-10-2021, 02:08 PMrmx63 - HORWWWHI asked once if the poem was written in metaphor with the example of WWWH being his cancer diagnosis ( would translate to depression) followed by asking if he had provided hints in any of his writing.His only reply was there are no hints/clues in anything he's written
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3101-10-2021, 01:02 PM Grizzbait WWWHI asked him if WWWH was where the waters actually stopped or just stopped being warm. “Sorry, I can’t answer that”
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3201-10-2021, 01:02 PM Grizzbait BlazeThe Blaze- was it manmade or natural?“Sorry, I can’t answer that”
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33June Did Everything Right 12-12-2020, 12:07 AM General Treasure LocationWe all know the treasure was found in Wyoming. But given certain what-might-be-hints, do all the physical clues exist within the borders of Wyoming? Put another way, are any of the clues physically located outside of the state of Wyoming? You could answer with "Perhaps" and send us all down a rabbit hole, but a yes or no would be epic.Yes everything was in Wyoming. I was waiting for that one
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34HOR searcher2342 12-15-2020, 05:45 PM Treasure ChestCould you clear up an oddity of sorts? In the first released image of the chest. The dragon bracelet was seen in a plastic ziplock. However in the photos on the table with Fenn- it is in the white sack. Curious as to how it was out of the sack in the first photo- but back in the sack in the photo that comes later in the timelineThanks Ben. There's no sack. The bracelet was wrapped in paper towel that became saturated over the years with water that condensed in the Ziploc. I think that wet paper towel was translucent and pulled taut by the weight in that first photo. In the second photo, that sheet of paper towel is dry. Does that make sense?
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35Backwoodsmom 12-12-2020, 08:45 PM Jack f'd upAs an Alaskan, fellow writer, and adoptive mother of six special needs kids...I remember your name. But bygones can be bygones. We've all done stupid things when we're young."thanks so much for the kind words. I'm sure those kids are lucky to have you. I learned a lot about myself in making a huge mistake like that, and I hope I'm a better person for it."
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36Backwoodsmom - HORPoem - Detail???"Pareidolia isn't involved in the solve, but I enjoyed that one. Thanks for sharing."
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37Bach - HORBlazeWas the chest hidden under his old coonskin hat disguised as a dead raccoon? If it had been, some critter took it before I got there.
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38Allan K EmailsWWWHAre you confident that you found "where warm waters halt?Yes
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39Allan K EmailsWWWHWas there physical "warm" water at the "warm waters halt location?Yes
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40Allan K EmailsGeneral Treasure LocationDid you find the treasure in a canyon? Maybe
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41Allan K EmailsGeneral Treasure LocationDid you cross a waterway when walking from your car to the chest?Logic says you have to get a least a little wet at some point on the path. How else would you get cold in the summer?
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42Allan K EmailsGeneral Treasure LocationDid you see wildlife at the treasure's location?Yes
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43Allan K EmailsGeneral Treasure LocationWould you have returned to the same general spot if you didn't find it on your last BOTG?Yes
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44Reddit andydufresne87General Treasure LocationHey Jack,
Congrats on the find. I for one am glad it was found. I was afraid I'd be stuck looking for that damn thing for years to come. I noticed you answered the question that all of the clues were in Wyoming. I'm hopeful you might take it one step further and answer whether all of the clues were within Forrest's specified 5000-10200' elevation range?
Jack:
"Thanks. I don't want to do that"
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45Reddit therock21General Treasure LocationHaha. I emailed him something very similar today. I’ll copy and paste his response. I asked if the treasure and the clues were found at an elevation over 5000’ and he said the following.



I don't want to get into elevation of all the clues, but yes, the treasure was
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46u/ordoviciWWWHI asked Jack: "Did you reverse engineer WWWH after determining the general area FF wanted to die or did you determine it first?"  
He answered: "I think I saw the correct WWWH as a possibility but did not feel I confirmed it until after I had figured out later clues. You really have to see the big picture. "
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47Hint of Riches Sal O'manderBOTG - Chest Retrieval ??Jack said, in one of his email answers, that he rearranged the spot where the chest was hidden to make it look more natural...
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48Dan Nun 1/10General Treasure Location“Jack, is it your belief that many people have been to the correct location without understanding why it was the correct location? If they didn’t understand what Forrest was saying in the poem, did they simply fail to see what was right in front of them? Thanks!”“I think there were enough attractive features about the place to bring in people that were trying to brute-force it in some way, but they didn't put together all of the clues. I got that from Forrest's comment that people who were within 200 ft ‘were searching for the treasure but didn't know that they were there’.”
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49hebuttonhookedmeSimplicityIf you had given up in 2018 after not finding it, and went on Dals site and posted your general solve to that point, what do you think the search community would have thought of it?

I think a lot of people probably would have been underwhelmed and thought it was too simple and straightforward to possibly be the correct answer. But the key is not the solution itself but rather the evidence that that's how he saw it.
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50SangreDeCristo EvidenceThe search community would like to know what evidence you found Jack. What did you find that made you confident? What was the evidence?If I told you the evidence, then you would know the spot, wouldn't you?
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51SangreDeCristo Process of Figuring it OutYou’ve mentioned that your first BOTG trip in 2018 was to the area where the treasure was ultimately located but you hadn’t figured out what the blaze was yet and came away empty handed. Did you figure out all of the other clues before going BOTG? Some of the other clues? I guess what I’m asking is how far you can get from the comfort of your own home before you ultimately go out in the wilderness?Jack: Yes, but I needed to see them in person to confirm their viability I think. And I found more supporting evidence later
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52ddiffenderferProcess of Figuring it OutConfirmed. I asked a similar question with a similar response from Jack:
[Me asking on whether he solved everything before going there or had to be BOTG to solve it]
I had everything but the blaze the first time I went out, but I think I had to see them in person to confirm those ideas.”
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53ddiffenderferProcess of Figuring it Out[Me asking on the importance of historical knowledge to the solve]
It's about how he saw things, so if you don't have evidence a certain part of history was personally and specifically important to him, you can rule it out.”
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54DavegoEvidenceI emailed him that to determine if I should continue the search or not. I would hate to never know for certain if I was right. Too many people have convinced themselves they are when they are not.
My exact query was: "My question is if one rose to the challenge and followed the poem to the correct location would they have that same level of certainty you had when you saw the chest?"
Jack's response was: "I think so if you put together all the evidence"
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55searcher1991 - redditGeneral Treasure LocationJust for peace of mind, I recently emailed Jack to see if he would just confirm the treasure was closer than 6 miles to the nearest road. Figured he could confirm that since it wouldn’t give anything away.
His response was- I don’t want to say that, but I will say Forrest only walked less than a few miles."
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56tootingjo Hint Of RichesFenn's QuotesDid the parking lot of the Denver Museum of Nature and Science mean much after all? Was it immediately obvious when you figured out the solve?I didn't ask him about that, but my guess was that was going just to be a hint that he had headed north
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57tootingjo Hint Of RichesHome of BrownYou must know that hoB drove absolutely everyone crazy! Did that blasted capital letter B make a difference? Sure, every decision he made in writing the poem made a difference. It wasn't an accident he capitalized it, if that's what you mean.
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58tootingjo Hint Of RichesPoem - DetailWas there one line in the poem that had you stumped more than any other?I guess you can say the line with the blaze because I took a while to figure that out
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59tootingjo Hint Of RichesFenn's QuotesForrest gave a confusing comment about the bracelet after the chest was found. Some people thought he might not have been given it after all. Just wondered if you had thoughts on why he was vague about that?
What confusing comment?
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60tootingjo Hint Of RichesProcess of Figuring it OutForrest seemed to love finding artifacts and fishing more than anything, is the special place to do with something he very obviously loved, or a bit of a tangent to the things he wrote about?Figuring that out is the crux of the whole thing, isn't it? So probably better not to answer
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61Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2Treasure ChestA lot of people have commented on how clean the chest looked in the photo with you and Forrest, did you clean it up? And did you go through or inventory the chest before meeting with Forrest. I ask that second question because I know I would have gone through it piece by piece. One last thing, did you find it strange to see a rusty pair of scissors in the chest? Any idea what they were used for?
Thanks
Kevin S.
The treasure was filthy, and dirt got all over the interior bag I had it in. I spent a night at a hotel on my way to New Mexico and wiped dirt off everything with the hotel towels (not with any type of soap or cleaner, just occasionally wetting them a little bit). I went through all the towels in the room and left them totally brown from all the dirt. I left a nice tip.

Yes. As was Forrest. It was in a Ziploc with the dragon bracelet, which was covered in paper towel, so my only guess was he cut the paper towel with them, but that doesn’t seem like a very good guess.
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62Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2BlazeI have two questions concerning the final clue that you might entertain answering. We were absolutely certain of our search location but it was still like searching for a needle in a haystack.
My question is,. #1 Is there something in the poem or in the hints in the book that significantly narrows down the search area for the blaze once in the final area? #2. If the answer is yes, would you specify whether that information is in the poem, or in the hints in the book? Thanks.
Chris McNeal
Depends on your definition of “significantly.” The poem directs you to a section of forest in which to search for the blaze, but that is something you had to search for. Something like a needle in a haystack is accurate, but maybe slightly easier than that, or at least that was the design.
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63Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2Poem - DetailDid the solve involve the use of synonyms for words found in the poem clues?
Thx, ken from oklahoma
Do you mean substituting synonyms for the words of the poem so that they would make sense? No. He wrote what he wanted to say. The poem is straightforward.
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64Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2General Treasure Locationfirst off i would just like to congratulate you...
anyways i have a specific location that requires climbing underneath a fence with barbed wire on top or somehow getting around the fence. did you have a similar experience? would at least let me know if i have been mistakenly attached to this spot.
congrats again!
Guy
Thanks Guy. No, I didn’t encounter a fence or barbed wire. If that were involved, the poem would have to mention it, I think.
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65Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2Treasure ChestThe key was highly rusted and it looks like it wouldn’t have lasted another decade. Did Forrest Fenn simply overlook the effects of time and moisture on the key, or did some protection he have for the key fail?He said he put it inside rather than in the lock because he knew it would rust.
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66Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2Treasure ChestWith a bronze chest and the lock appearing in good condition, why is the key steel/iron? Is this an original key, or a cheap replica? Is the chest’s lock mechanism also steel/iron (and if so did it suffer the same rusty fate)?I don’t know, actually. Maybe you can ask the DIA if they have a key for their version of the chest.
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67Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2BlazeYou have stated that the blaze was damaged by nature and that you didn’t initially recognize it as the blaze — even 6 feet away. Specifically, was it the damage that threw you off, or not knowing exactly what that blaze was at that first encounter?The damage
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68Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2BlazeWas the natural damage that the blaze suffered something that occurred slowly (like erosion, settling, etc.) or rather suddenly (like, if not specifically, the things Forrest Fenn lists: mudslides, forest fires, earthquakes, and floods)?Suddenly
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69Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2BlazeWas the damage the blaze suffered just poor dumb luck (like a tree falling, of all places, directly on the blaze or a localized landslide on an apparently stable slope occurring right at the chest site), or did Forrest Fenn simply grossly underestimate the ravishes of time and the forces of nature?Forrest left it up to fate to decide.
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70Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2EvidenceI am still trying to solve the poem on my own..... My best guess is at Amelia Earhart’s cabin near Meeteetse. Below are all the coincidences that lead me to Amelia’s cabin. I am curious what you think and would appreciate your feedback, is this a tremendous amount of confirmation bias or a plethora of red herrings?
Congrats again,
Carrie
[Carrie then includes a long list of all the coincidences she found]
It’s probably easy to tally up coincidences on any subject, and that’s why so many searchers felt they wound up in rabbit holes. To me, you need evidence that he intended something to be a hint in order to consider it as such, and I was happy to leave legitimate hints on the table if they didn’t meet that high burden of proof. It’s also important to note he once gave us an idea of how many hints were in TTOTC, and it wasn’t very many.
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71Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2Process of Figuring it OutIt seems like you tried to research everything about Forrest Fenn, including everything he ever wrote or said about the Chase.
So my question is:
If you only had the “Thrill of the Chase” book (and went BOTG of course) would you have been able to solve the poem and find the treasure?
In other words, were any of the “after the fact” Forrest Fenn quotes critical to your solve?
Thanks as always,
~Allen K
Allen, hypotheticals are always difficult to answer with any accuracy. If TTOTC was the only piece of writing he ever wrote, I would have found that very strange. The natural inclination for me would still be to research the man as much as possible. If something had happened to him and he never had the chance to answer questions about the treasure hunt, I would have had a harder time believing it was real, so I may have just decided there was too much uncertainty and never searched. And without his many comments on simplicity and the straightforwardness of the poem, I think it would have been more difficult to understand the scope of the undertaking and his perspective on the poem, which I think are crucial to figuring out what it means. The greatest value of his quotes lies in how they clarify the nature of the problem at hand and how one may go about solving it. There are some little nuggets of evidence in his quotes, but they’re not as important as that big-picture stuff.
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72Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2EvidenceHope you are doing well. I would like to ask: what gave you confidence in your search location? I mean for me my location, Brown’s Canyon Colorado, one that I visited 40 plus times in 4 years, was derived entirely from the poem, but I was obviously wrong. And most serious searchers felt the same way about their search spots, but they too were wrong. So what was it that gave you so much confidence that your location was correct that you visited it 25 times in those two years? Can you honestly say that you knew for certain that your location was the location prior to recovery?
Thanks
Sean Dodson
Sean, for me, it was from connecting the dots and seeing the evidence. Evidence it was the place he wanted to die and evidence he saw the path there the way he describes seeing it in the poem.
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73Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2General Treasure LocationCongratulations, again! I didn’t have any questions for you at first but I do have one now. :)
If you were free and clear of any legal worries, would you want other searchers, who developed a fondness of Forrest and his Chase over the years, to know the special spot?
Same question, but with a slight twist.
If you had arrived at the spot, only to realize you weren’t the first one there and the chest was gone. Would you answer the question the same way?
Thank you kindly,
Billy Shaw Jr.
1. If I could be assured the spot wouldn’t be destroyed, and Forrest was ok with it, and most of them wanted it to just be handed to them, then sure. I don’t get off on being withholding.
2. I knew where it was, so if someone else found it, I wouldn’t need to see a chest-sized depression to know where it was. I have thought about whether I would go on the internet and point out the evidence at that point in a fit of pique. I think and hope I would still keep it to myself, but who knows where my emotions would be at that point.
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74Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2General Treasure LocationDo you know if the date that Forrest hid the treasure is of any significance? If so, was this info part of the ancillary evidence that aided you in the search?
Forrest said he stayed mum on the exact hiding date to prevent searchers from pulling car rental records to calculate miles driven, etc. Given that your name and travel dates are now public, any concerns that someone might try to trace your movements? (Not I, I assure you!)
Justin Fields
My car rental records aren’t public records. I doubt people would be willing to lose their job and get into legal trouble just to get that information out, and I doubt they would be as revealing as people like to think.
He told me he hid it when he did because he was in Wyoming anyway for an event at the museum in Cody, so it was convenient to hide it on the same trip.
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75Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2BlazeHad the blaze not been damaged, do you believe you would’ve found the spot on your first trip in 2018, or did you really need to know what blaze you were looking for in order to identify it (regardless of the condition of the blaze)?
Justin Fields
That’s tough to say because I wasn’t tracking myself with GPS and being systematic enough in 2018, but my feeling when I first went there early in the search season in 2019 was that it was an area of the forest I had never been in before. So probably not. If I had gone in that area, I probably would have needed some luck to notice it even without damage because I didn’t know what I was looking for
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76Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2General Treasure Location1. Are place names on a map relevant at all to the clues in the poem? I surmise that the poem itself, taken as a whole, points to one general area on a map by place name. But maybe the individual clues from there on don’t have specific place names.
2. Is any part of the solve outside of Wyoming? I know you found the chest in WY, but does the chase begin outside of that state?
1. I think I can answer that either way and people would quibble if they knew all the answers.
2. Nope, everything is in Wyoming.
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77Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2BlazeIf someone made a fake blaze and you publicly mentioned it was 1000 feet from the real blaze didn’t you essentially tell that person where the chest was, or do you believe the maker of the fake blaze was most likely not a Fenn searcher?
Thanks!
Dave from Reading
Thanks Dave. I left it vague enough so that everyone who left a fake blaze out there now feels bad about it and realizes they may have wasted time making a fake blaze instead of looking harder for the treasure. And I’ve had some of those people email me. Haha.
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78Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2Poem - DetailIs the It an actual thing it or simply your quest? I think its possible to read that multiple ways and be correct.
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79Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2WWWHIs waters a body of water and not simply plural form of water?
It fits a dictionary definiton of the word and is used correctly in context.
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80Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2Poem - DetailDoes the semicole mean anything? Does it tie the 2 lines together?
A: I would say he uses the semcolon correctly, there is a connecting of ideas in the stanza
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81Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2Blaze“Been wise”…is using the past tense “been” important?
Nick
To me, that past tense was jarring. I always wondered if there had been an extra stanza before that he cut out to make it harder, but I forgot to ask him. I think the past tense does help you realize that there is a gap there, the search you have to do for the blaze. And then it’s past tense because you’ve then done everything you need to do to find the treasure at that point.
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82Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2Scrapbooks/Other WritingsWow, so congrats...So, I could not help but notice that you resemble Forrest in many ways. (Hair, skin, facial structure, stature) Do you think some of these similarities in turn may have helped you find the chest? I.e. perhaps you have a similar genetic makeup and therefore you were able to think the same as Forrest. I hope this doesn’t sound crazy it’s an honest question.
Or do you think you were just able to tap into some good info through the internet (scrapbooks, videos, interview) That helped you compute out the solution?
Spallies
Thanks Spallies. I think we did think alike in some important ways, because I always found it rather easy to understand where he was coming from where I sometimes saw others struggling. I don’t know exactly how genetics or appearance plays into that, but I’m sure there are some similarities to growing up a white boy in America with an August birthday and an older brother whether it’s the 1930s or 1990s. But mostly what informed me was studying his words.
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83Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2SlipupHi. Hopefully you can answer these questions, but I understand if not!
I had a pet theory that Forest endangered the solution by the amount of interviews he gave, and came to the conclusion that if he were to make an unguarded comment, it would have been early on in the chase and/or when asked an unusual question. Is that what you found?
Also, and perhaps you can answer this question, did Forest know at the time that he made an error? Did realize and try to backtrack? Did Forest know when you spoke to him that he’d made an error in the past?
Congratulations once again and thanks for your time,
Cheers,
Dean
Thanks Dean. I think he got into his groove with handling interviews quickly, and I certainly looked at and watched and listened to everything.

I did ask him about those two little slip-ups. He remembered one but not the other. But that second one was very subtle. He seemed satisfied overall with his performance keeping the secret, and I agree it was impressive.
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84Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2BlazeI think maybe Forrest knew the blaze was damaged when he left the chest, and that’s why you would have been wise to find it. Would you say the blaze could have already been damaged when Forrest originally left the chest? Or do you think that Forrest had a different view of the chests spot with the blaze still intact? Last question is would you say the remaining clues were still traceable or were others damaged as well? I understand if you don’t have the time to answer, I appreciate you taking the time to answer my first email. I spent the last 7 summers working out in Wyoming, looking for the treasure in my spare time. I think I was very close.
Thanks again
Christopher J. Kubash
No, and he was somewhat surprised when I told him it had happened. Yes, all the other clues are recognizable out there at this point the same as when he hid it, but none of them were as susceptible to damage as the blaze was.
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85Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2Process of Figuring it OutIt’s really baffling how you describe Forrest’s poem as not being a “puzzle” of sorts necessarily. If you’re saying that it’s just straight forward, loose and vague interpretations of waypoints for each clue then why would Forrest always tell us to “study every word”? Or that every word was intentional?

If the poem wasn’t a puzzle then how or why did it take him 15+ years to create supposedly?Hahaha! :P

Hope you’re doing well and really appreciate again you taking time from your day to give a stranger some closure!
Maximus
I think it’s vague to the reader coming into it cold, but those words held deep meaning for him. They say exactly what he wanted to without giving too much away and requiring work to understand him to reveal what they mean. And it works as a poem that tells a coherent story.

I think some people read too much into that “15 years” comment. It’s probably something that was in the back of his mind that he came back to occasionally to work on. I don’t think he was spending hours on it each day. It doesn’t even rhyme completely.

I’m not reading much of the online conversation because the emails keep me plenty busy. Thankfully, the ratio of kind emails like yours to weird threats and conspiracy theories has been really high.
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86Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2General Treasure LocationOne last question referring to your previous answer, if you don’t mind! Roughly how big was the location or area you had decided the treasure was at? I mean was it like a football oval size area, or something bigger or smaller?
Thanks again for replying.
Best wishes,
Sean Gibbs
I haven’t measured the area I searched. It may have been bigger than a football field, but keep in mind that’s the total limits of what I thought was possible. What I considered to be probable was certainly smaller than a football field, and it was found within those probable bounds.
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87Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2General Treasure LocationIn the poem “Take it in the canyon down” is this referring to an actual, physical canyon? That’s not too much to give away because there’s a million canyons. But I would just like to know 2 things.
#1. Is it a physical canyon?
#2. Do you have to go physically into the canyon?
Thanks Jack, as always =)
Billy Price
Yes, the clues refer to things in the physical world, so it was a physical canyon. You do have to go down it to travel the path of the poem.
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88Medium - Jack Gets Mail 2General Treasure LocationForrest stated (and I’m paraphrasing) that the spot was not in “very close proximity” to a human trail. Did you indeed walk a “human trail” for a portion of your solve, or not? And do feel his statement (done in classic Fenn style, LOL!) was a hindrance or of help in the ultimate solve.
Thank you Jack for all the questions you have answered and I hope that some likeness of “normal” returns quickly to you, your family and Forrest’s family. You all deserve to finally move forward and live in peace.
Best wishes for a safe and happy New Year!
Donna-Geysergirl
Thanks Donna. I think that may narrow down things too much if I say yes or no, but I can say the whole time I was searching for the blaze and treasure in the forest, I did not step foot on a human trail. He is right that there are no man-made trails in the vicinity, but there are some game trails.
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89Shark - HOR Ciphers/GPS/AnagramYou have stated how the solve was straightforward many times and the key was to understand how Forest thinks, the words used and how he wanted to die. You have also said you didn't bring GPS equipment in 2018. I am reading that as numbers within text and using numbers in some fashion in your solve even though you haven't mentioned coordinates or word count (numbers) at all. In a general sense, can you confirm if numbers are involved in some way and not just words?Well, there are a lot of numbers you could look at. Such as the elevation rule. But no, no codes or coordinates or math or anything like that
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90Shark - HOR "these communications took place over 10 emails. I put them together to make it easier to read/ follow."

In question #1, for example, i asked a follow up question in a separate email. I posted here as just question #1 because it was the same train of thought.
EvidenceInteresting. Why did you feel the need to take a GPS device with you in 2020 then? There is a prominent poster by the name of OH! who has very compelling evidence that word count translated to coordinates with over 100 examples that repeat with the same format each time. The same numbers are found in the borders of multiple pictures in TTOTC as well.I took a GPS device to track myself and make sure I covered everything. Collecting coincidences isn't the same as collecting evidence.
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91Shark - HOR Process of Figuring it OutThe first two things that jumped out at me when I first started armchair searching was (A) secret w-here and (B) "who says i can't take it with me? Why do I have to live by everyone rules? If I'm going to die of cancer, I'm going to take some stuff with me..."
The secret where line doesn't make sense grammatically, it is a nonsensical line. Can you confirm if it was a secret W? (B) to me, figuring this out seemed like the crux of the entire thing (I know it is not in the poem). On the surface, we know of no way you can take your treasures with you when you die... so what did he mean by that? Was this part of the solution and figuring out where he wanted to die?
I don't think it's nonsense. By taking it with him I think he meant dying with the stuff and creating a tomb and legend of sorts. You can probably read that multiple ways and be accurate. If an English teacher gave you guff for putting that in a poem, you could flash your poetic license, and they would be taken off to jail
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92Shark - HOR Slipup3. Has anyone emailed you correctly about the interview thing/slip up you picked up on?I don't want to reveal that either way
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93Shark - HOR General Treasure LocationWere any Amelia Earhardt connections important in your solution?I don't want to reveal that either way
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94Shark - HOR Process of Figuring it Out5. Do you think it's possible to solve the poem without the aid of hints in the book?The hints are easier to see in retrospect, so I guess you don't really need them. But I don't know if I would have been confident enough or felt like I had enough evidence without them.
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95Shark - HOR Ciphers/GPS/AnagramDo you personally consider an anagram a cipher?I haven't given it any thought. Neither are involved
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96Shark - HOR Process of Figuring it OutBesides geographic research, do you think any other research was needed? (I personally think zero research is involved other than geographic, although it doesn't matter what I think at all)Research into Forrest I think is required to have any confidence​​​​​​​
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97Shark - HOR Fenn's Quotes8. A. Do you know of any Fenn quotes that contradicted your solution to the poem? Meaning did he ever slip up (by accident) and throw some searchers off course? You don't have to be specific at all, there are tons of quotes. But, generally speaking, in retrospect, are all quotes by Fenn accurate?

B. As it was a mild bit of evidence, I don't see how revealing what the quote was would put the solution at risk. I'm sure I could not see from your vantage point anyway since I have no clue whatsoever what the solution is or any inkling how to get there. I was never even a searcher, I just followed everything for the fun of it. Can you divulge what the quote was?
A. That's an interesting question. There is one particular answer that wasn't interesting to most people but to me either totally invalidated what I was doing or was a mild bit of evidence in its favor. I forced myself to pay attention to that and considered it for a long time before I decided it was almost certainly the latter. He answered with a basic sense of fairness, and detecting that was important for me. Sometimes he said some things he realized were misleading, as with the pinyon nuts comment, and he tried to walk them back. There are maybe a couple things where I differ from his opinion somewhat, but I can't think of anything where I would say he was outright wrong.

B. I think it would, actually, so I don't want to do that
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98Shark - HOR Process of Figuring it OutHave you ever seen a post online that used your methodology or had a similar solution to yours?I don't want to get into ruling on people's solves
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99Shark - HOR EvidenceOn a scale of 1-100, how much imagination was required to solve?I don't know how to answer that. I feel like I followed the evidence mainly but followed some ideas that came to me along the way that proved fruitful. I don't know if that counts as imagination
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100Shark - HOR Scrapbooks/Other WritingsDid you get other hints out of the scrapbooks or two other subsequent books? To further elaborate on my question, was Forrest constantly giving hints in his communication?No and no