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1 | Timestamp | Are you neurotypical, sociopath, or other (please specify)? | Have you been professionally diagnosed? | How would you feel and what would you do in this situation? | How do you think the "opposite" people would respond? | ||||||||||||||||||
2 | 2/19/2014 12:31:30 | Aspie | No | Smash my own vial immediately to commit suicide. | 3 | I honestly have little idea. | |||||||||||||||||
3 | 2/18/2014 3:17:55 | Autistic psychopath, probably. | No. | It's difficult to say without actually being in the situation, of course, but my best guess is that I'd be angry with the jerks who did surgery on my head without my say-so, and very annoyed about the whole setup. As sensitive to pain as I am, it'd probably be really easy for me to fill my vial without doing much permanent harm to myself. I'd insist on filling up my vial all on my own, and I'd do it, too. This would probably make everyone else feel like they had to torture themselves, so all I'd have to do after that would be help the ones who needed helping. Of course, this is assuming there really is no way out besides the one presented. | 1 | The person whose personality is most opposed to mine is probably my little sister. In a situation like this, I think she would probably cry, refuse to hurt anybody, and even offer to die if it would help. She's a ridiculously saintly person, my little sister. If extreme emotional pain produces this brain fluid they're looking for, she'd fill her vial in no time flat. | |||||||||||||||||
4 | 2/18/2014 7:06:37 | bipolar | yes | I think I would wonder whether or not it was just a psychological test and not do anything. I would watch everyone else do what they do and see what occurred. Would the level of pain needed to sustain my life be the equivalent of a potentially lethal level? If so, there might not be any guarantee that I would survive even if the threat was real and I did harm myself. I would feel very annoyed and pissed off at being someone else's toy and amusement. I think I might even sit there until the hours are up just to see if I really did die. | 2 | I think a NT would go into a state of extreme panic, crying and making vocalizations and being very dramatic, then fall into a state of numbness/shock. Then through sniffles and tears they would do something to harm themselves with shaking hands and wide eyes. A sociopath? Maybe they would watch the show for awhile and then either decide to sit it out and see if they die or just shrug and take the pain and see what happens. | |||||||||||||||||
5 | 2/18/2014 21:32:35 | depressed/anxious/alcoholic | yes | While I do feel empathy, I don't fell too attached to this life. I don't wish harm upon anybody. I'd probably try to exist peacefully for 22 hrs, and then die or whatever happens. Or be attacked and die. Or go into life threatening gabaergic drug withdrawal and die, or maybe just have a seizure. | 3 | I'm sure most empaths, depending upon their emotional maturity, may react rationally, or they may become irrational and do something silly/stupid/unethicalish. A sociopath would probably try to strategically accomplish what best suits their own agenda. | |||||||||||||||||
6 | 2/18/2014 17:22:46 | Diagnosed BPD, self suspecting sociopath | Yes, BPD | Death is nothing. This is candy land... A group of ppl filled with fear and desperation and is willingly begging me to torture them.... An action that is morally justified in society, all In the name of altruism and self sacrifice (since I will die) ... My point? Candy land... Where else can you elevate the boredom in life where people beg you to hurt them and you had the perfectly moral excuse to do it? No punishment or repercussions... You might even get a plague of honour for your selfless act! The hardest thing though... Is not killing them since that would defeat the purpose and make them turn on you. Anyway it's hypothetical... Hypothetical... Lalalala... Oh wait... What's stopping me from filling my flask with the accumulated fluid in other people's flask? Like if I tortured enough ppl, make sure they're immobilised and tied up, the rip it off them? It would kill them, but a quick death is better than long suffering disability right? And do I need to physically fill mine or just have enough to total it up? Is there a valve? If I can exploit that I must leave no witness alive. Then I can blame it on the organisers, say I tried to help but they lied, the fluid killed them and you tried to save them by pulling it off... Oh yeah, btw does emotional pain work? Or just physical? If emotional pain works then I can just fill mine up by stimulating painful emotions. Opps, said too much... Hypothetical, hypothetical... Lalalala | 4 | Bloody empaths would probably feel pain while torturing others so they can help each other fill the damn thing up while filling their own flask up. Like take turns or something. Or maybe avoid permanent damage thing. Maybe panic and start slapping each other... Dunno, they're just so stupid sometimes. | |||||||||||||||||
7 | 2/18/2014 6:52:45 | For the time being, let's assume I'm neurotypical, since I've never been professionally diagnosed, and I do not have much faith in the diagnoses of mental "disorders". | No. | I appreciate my freedom, so I would be resentful, to say the least. The rest of me would be curious to see how my friends would react. I would think about trying to escape, but only with the result of trying out her hypothesis first. If I could persuade one of my friends into trying out her hypothesis and then she was proven false, I would be an advocate of escape, as well. I would probably test her hypothesis by drilling a hole through somebody's extremity (a finger, maybe the pinky). If this succeeds and their vial is partially or wholly filled, I would request that they be the next person to harm somebody. They would have to proceed in alphabetical order from the top, which is the most equitable and impersonal way to proceed. After every two sessions, the recipient would change for each individual, to avoid buildup of emotional attachment to the recipient or vice versa. Additionally, every three sessions, the device used to create extreme pain would have to change. None of us can risk dying if the only way for me to escape is to make sure that all of us live through this. However, if it is merely a case of "person fills vial, person goes free", the situation gets more selfish for everyone involved. Everybody would want harm done to them, in an expedient fashion. Anybody who agreed with me would be tested to see what the quickest possible method of filling the vial would be. I would then undergo that method (I would make the case that this method was my idea, and I "deserve" to go next) and the rest could live as they'd like. | 1 | A person who is opposite my viewpoint would be- I think- very opposed to harming other human beings and would waste the rest of their lives (I assumed that death was the even that would occur after 22 hours) trying to escape or otherwise dally when action could be taken to save everyone's lives. | |||||||||||||||||
8 | 2/18/2014 1:55:50 | fuck stereotypes | no | Refuse to participate. The hitchhiker had a chance to kill us — consider that's what she did. | 3 | Get emotional. | |||||||||||||||||
9 | 2/18/2014 14:07:55 | gray area | no | Find something painfull but not (too) harmfull, use it on myself use acceptance to take the bad part out of the pain. And smile in defiance while plottting. Also try to help people, if I like them or don't dislike them to much. | 1 | lots of crying and self pity. | |||||||||||||||||
10 | 2/18/2014 17:24:27 | High Mach | No | If it was my friends, I would do them first. I would try to make the pain brutal, but not long. I would ask them the same of me. | 1 | Scared, emotional. Maybe eventually pull through. | |||||||||||||||||
11 | 2/18/2014 15:44:11 | I believe that I am a narcissist. | No. | Honestly, if I were in that situation, I'd be in heaven. Others would get out easily thanks to me- I would have no trouble causing them pain. In fact, I would take pleasure in breaking their limbs, or pulling off their fingernails with pliers. I would laugh at their misery, and thrive amongst the pooling out of their blood. At first, just to 'fit in', I might act and seem hesitant, and unwilling to hurt another. For if I do not, I could be suspected of helping the 'professional looking woman', which would not be of any help to me after all the test subjects are released at the end of the day. However, after perhaps another subject begins to hurt another, I will join in as well. On the flip side, I need to be hurt as well in order to successfully escape. I have no experience with any actual excruciating pain (I've always somehow avoided it; or just haven't really felt it), therefore, this won't be fun for me. Honestly, if it's just punching and kicking and slapping and whatnot, without the use of tools, I'd be fine with that. I might actually have sexual pleasure from it (as many of my fantasies have suggested). The only main con of the punching and kicking, is that it might not be enough to cause extreme pain, especially if I am surrounded by a bunch of 'empath's, and they're afraid to hurt me. All in all, I'd be very willing to help the others escape by hurting them, but I would not be as thrilled to be hurt by others. | 4 | By "opposite", because I'm a narcissist, I assume that my opposite is an empath. So, in that case, in a situation like this, I think an empath would freak out. Of course, given the fact that there are many types of empaths (sadistic/masochistic ones too), I will speak for the typical empath (feely, touchy, thinks that anything that steps outside of the norm is evil or strange). Anyhow, were they stuck in the house, the empath would be afraid and scared, and very disgusted with the situation. They would be very unwilling to engage in hurting others, and be very angry/disturbed with whoever eventually starts to hurt another subject. Then, after being convinced that there is no other possible scenario, the empath would begin to cause extreme pain as well, all the while feeling ashamed of themselves, and apologizing frequently to whoever they are hurting. Therefore, they would try to not cause too much agony, and their method might not be enough to let everyone escape. Then, when it comes to the empath being hurt, he or she would not enjoy it (obviously), and be very disgusted if the person hurting her does not apologize frequently (for example, a sociopath or a narcissist, or someone who's sadistic) or does not show that they feel 'ashamed'. If the person does though, then the empath would forgive them, and cry together with the person (if the person is an empath, then he/she would not enjoy causing pain, and as a result, be upset). All in all, the empath would not enjoy causing or feeling pain, and would feel very disgusted/disturbed/ashamed of the situation he/she has been put in. | |||||||||||||||||
12 | 2/18/2014 21:04:45 | Likely a dissociative empath/socio | 2 therapists say it is likely but I quit going | I would be pissed off but would probably switch, form an alliance and pick a victim (assuming the viles could be externally loaded). If we could knock the victim out and the pain still register then I would do that | 1 | As myself, I would be scared at first. As the other form I would be mad. Either way I'd do the same thing | |||||||||||||||||
13 | 2/18/2014 6:19:37 | neurotypical | no | I would leave. We can use all those fantastic tools they provided us with to break out of the house. | 2 | I'm pretty sure they'd also try to leave. | |||||||||||||||||
14 | 2/18/2014 8:44:57 | neurotypical | no | Horrified, of course. And I would swear to never pick up any hitchhikers ever again. Firstly, I would loudly decry the claims that the brain fluid is only released in times of extreme pain. I would carefully guard my own vial and observe. Hopefully someone will cave in and remove theirs. If they die, I will move quickly to inflict all kinds of torture on myself but be absolutely careful not to cause any lost limbs, paralysis, infections or death. I have the knowledge necessary to do this. If I fill the vial within 22 hours, I would help my friends inflict pain on themselves. They will help me in finding and killing the hitchhiker. | 1 | I am not an empath. In fact, a casual non-professional test declares that I have sociopathic tendencies. This probably means that I do as the sociopaths do, but then feel bad about it later. I do have feelings. I think the sociopath would aggressively goad their friends/strangers to remove their vials first. After all, they have the necessary charm, don't they? If those people die, I expect the sociopath to act for their own interests and cause themselves extreme pain to ultimately survive. The sociopath may then help inflict pain on those who may be of use. Who knows? Certainly not me. The sociopath should be filled with a terrible fear of death, as it is a natural inborn instinct of all animals, including the filthiest of them all: humans. | |||||||||||||||||
15 | 2/18/2014 10:18:58 | Neurotypical | As a neurotypical? No. | I would feel curious, though probably also annoyed depending on whether or not this situation constitutes an escape from severe boredom. The question is of course whether we accept the situation as it's been told. There are no assurances of safety, or even survival should I or any of the others comply. I have simply been told by someone that they have authority and I must accede to it. I would not. My job, then, would be to convince the others that this is the case, so we could work together to free ourselves and foil this woman's plan. I think I would be successful, because the requirement that we hurt ourselves helps my case, in addition to the fact that some people prefer death to severe pain. I should point out that I would follow this course even if I were given assurances of safety, because someone willing to kidnap and torture strangers is probably willing to tell lies as well. | 2 | It truly depends on how you define the dichotomy. Someone completely lacking in empathy may find that my strategy is most beneficial to them as an individual, in which case we may agree. In most situations, being pro-social carries little cost and provides the greatest gain. If you define a sociopath as necessarily anti-social, there may be an alternative, more rewarding strategy. Most people are squeamish about inflicting pain, and may not be able to balance pain and damage, which is to say the most pain should be inflicted while causing the least permanent harm. A steady hand and a cool mind is necessary. The sociopath, like a surgeon, could carry this burden by reassuring the other victims that he will hurt them, but not harm them. Even if the woman has no intention of freeing anyone, she may find the sociopath's charm and coolness attractive, and may decide to keep this person around. Assuming the woman is rather sophisticated and careful, my own strategy may be doomed to fail, whereas the anti-social strategy may succeed. | |||||||||||||||||
16 | 2/18/2014 12:10:54 | Neurotypical | No | I would just get on with it. There would be no point making a fuss about it - though I would wonder if it was worth the extreme pain, since torture is worse than death. It would depend on my mood. | 1 | I have no idea. | |||||||||||||||||
17 | 2/18/2014 14:00:28 | Neurotypical | No | I would be anxious obviously. And immediately I would start the grill. I would than grab a vat of boiling water (with someone's help) and "trip" spilling the water onto another person. I would then be in pain and so would the other person because the boiling water would probably get me since I tripped, my target and possibly the other guy helping me move the water. Tell everyone someone pushed me, grab a knife and make a cut on my arm, then toss the knife aside and accuse somebody of cutting me. Hopefully there is some chaos ensuing by this point. The grill should be hot enough. I would press my arm against the burning grill, ordering somebody to hold my arm down. And from there I have no idea. | 1 | A sociopath may respond with hesitance and annoyance. Possibly burn someone else with the grill and boiling water. They might use pliers to pull out a tooth and blame everybody for letting the annoying she-devil into the car. That they knew better than to let her in but NO! They might cut themselves a bit and try to get pity from it later? I don't know, whatever they do. | |||||||||||||||||
18 | 2/18/2014 16:02:00 | Neurotypical | No | I would initially feel extremely frightened and anxious, and definitely question if the smiling woman had truly inserted the vials. After (probably) deciding to accept the existence of the vials, I would do simple things like plying out my toenails or dipping my legs and arms in boiling water, anything really that would produce extreme pain but not risk killing me. I would work together with other test subjects to accomplish longer tasks faster, but I don't think I'd prioritize anyone's comfort (holding someone's hand, jumping into a boiling pot of water /together/, etc.) if it meant losing time. I do believe I'd eventually end up eventually playing dirty and hiding supplies for myself to ensure my survival, but I wouldn't purposely sabotage anyone else's chances at coming out alive. | 1 | I think sociopaths might find the quickest way to their own survival through the manipulation of weaker test subjects. For example, if it was obvious that a man was being reluctant to using a tool on himself, the sociopath might encourage him to stop the survival efforts for "his own good", thus freeing up more tools for their own use. I also believe a sociopath would easily get rid of any test subjects that could lessen their chances of surviving the experiment, be them weak-willed or not. | |||||||||||||||||
19 | 2/18/2014 12:20:43 | neurotypical (Bi-Polar 2) | Yes | If I was in the particular situation, I wouldn't like it. As I feel most people wouldn't. I would feel betrayed due to the misuse of my hospitality. I would also feel contempt towards the "friend/friends" who decided to pick up the woman. As for how I would act I don't really know. At first I might try and figure out a way to get out of the situation with as low emotional damage as possible. But eventually I would give up and it would be all about my survival. | 1 | As I feel I am in the middle of the Sociopath and Empath spectrum, I don't really know how the opposite of myself. If I were to guess I would say that a Sociopath would be more inclined to be about their own survival from the start. And a true empathic person would be all about trying to help everyone to get out alive, even if it meant they lose their own life in the process. | |||||||||||||||||
20 | 2/18/2014 11:19:42 | neurotypical (probably) | no | I'd find the least physically damaging ways to inflict pain and go for it; inflict on myself if necessary. I'd prefer to inflict pain on others but only if they opt to reciprocate. Yeah, I'm kind of a sadomasochist at heart. | 1 | I have no idea how others would respond other than probably try like hell to avoid either receiving or inflicting pain. Pussies. | |||||||||||||||||
21 | 2/18/2014 18:03:20 | Neurotypical? (depressed/suicidal) | Yes, Major depression, Social Anxiety and Agoraphobia. | I would probably kill myself by dislodging the vial instantly. 1. It would be the quickiest and easiest 2. If i could convince the others to aswell it would completely fuck up "the game" | 3 | Actually I do think a sociopath would think similarly, In terms of "Fucking the game up" and maybe a little bit with not valueing your own life... | |||||||||||||||||
22 | 2/18/2014 11:01:09 | No | No | The answer in this scenario (and any type of bullying or blackmail attempt) is for everyone to do nothing. In other words, don't give the blackmailer what they want. This is the only way to remain in control of the situation. There is also no way to know what is actually true. The only facts in this scenario are that people were drugged and woke up someplace. Even if you had a scar or stitch on your skull there is no way to verify that a vial was implanted in your brain. This scenario is about control, not violence. If I could not convince everyone to do nothing a solution could be to render the others unconscious, therefore, they would be experiencing pain and giving in to the blackmailer. | 2 | The opposite reaction in this scenario would be to do what the blackmailer says. If sociopaths are as rational and intelligent as they claim to be, they could see this logic. If they were really as adept at controlling other people (or situations) as they claim to be, and really abhor being controlled themselves, the focus would be on regaining control from the blackmailer. Antisocial behavior is about NOT complying with norms, rules, or constructs. This is a very controlling situation. Sociopaths and psychopaths are the biggest bullies. | |||||||||||||||||
23 | 2/18/2014 21:48:32 | No | No | I would feel hopeless and uncomfortable. I probably would last as long as possible hiding in a corner and doing nothing. I'm going to die anyways from the looks of it? Why would I risk dying in pain? | 3 | I think a sociopath would take more risks in causing pain on themselves and others. I don't think they would worry about it too much. | |||||||||||||||||
24 | 2/18/2014 12:42:49 | Not sure | Nope | I wouldn't inflict any pain on myself and would just die when the time comes. In my 22hrs that I'd have to live, I'd try to find the woman/researcher and inflict pain upon her. | 2 | They would probably do nothing and wait until it's time to die. They'd also be happy and relish at others who'd inflict pain on themselves to evade death. Also, since sociopaths accept death, they'd probably also inflict extreme pain on others in order to make their sadistic dreams come true since they'll die, and thus evade jail time. | |||||||||||||||||
25 | 2/18/2014 13:28:19 | other psycho multi diagnosed | yes | Look for the weaker leaks and subject them and the random group to sadism in order to save my own ass. Given that specific situation it shouldn't take long to see others freak out, panic, and break down. People are in no spot to function doing any of the above; they are useless. (This goes for both groups; friends or not) People that scream, cry and panic are useless. Ideas can be planted for self serving interests such as escape. Smash any hidden cameras that are conntecting to the professional looking woman's computers. Recon the surroundings, grab good weapons, determine where would be a good escape zone. A. While others are too busy fighting amongst themselves or paniced B. Incite some to kill others, then kill the remainders. Make sure any competition to me that may be a threat to survival is dead. Standard household tools can be very useful. So can starting fires. Conditions have to be right and timing. This is not in any specific order. Plotting the group i arrived with against unknown test subjects hopefully would be easy. Them vs us mentality; planting seeds of doubt (they are in on it) etc. The smartest thing would be to escape to somewhere where the implant could be professionally removed. We really need to know if there is solid people within our own group. Some could torture the unknown group while others look for ways out. Given a random group is already there, take them out first. Them and anyone from my own group who is not useful. | 1 | Empaths would probably try to save everyone and exit the house, hoping the woman who started it all wouldn't run after them. They might use the random group of subjects in order to save their friends. Not really sure what they'd do.. | |||||||||||||||||
26 | 2/18/2014 2:24:53 | Paranoid Personality disorder | Yes | Impossible to know exactly. I would probably hyperfocus on getting things done. I would prefer hurting someone I was not attached to. In extreme situations there is no room for emotions. Mostly act and react is what goes through ones mind. I would propablu become very suspicious, in the long run maybe turn against everything that seems the slightest untrustworthy. | 1 | I think a sociopath would want to get things done, and play some game or scheme to avoid getting hurt himself. Maybe target the other group or individuals that are easy to "take" or rally others against. | |||||||||||||||||
27 | 2/18/2014 10:22:36 | Possible sociopath | I have not | Firstly, it's difficult to answer this question due to the lack of specifics. For example, how many vials need to be filled? Will hurting another person fill your vile, or does your vile only get filled if you experience pain? Going on assumption due to the lack of specifics, I would assume that everyone has to get their particular vile filled in order to survive. In that case I would have no choice but to reluctantly work with the other members of the group, and to do my best in finding the most efficient way of filling up the vials without loosing any overly important limbs or organs. However, say I was wrong in my assumption of everyone having to fill the vials, and only one group does. Well then I would think of this situation a lot more strategically. For example, I would be in group with friends, so I would be trusted, somewhat, and I would know how my friends would generally react in to certain situations. If it seemed feasible, I would touch on the concept of possibly hurting the other group members in order to fill the desired amount of viles. If I know my friends would not agree with my suggestions than I am left with two choices, either play along with the consensus of both groups while looking for allies and watching for possible dangers, or to try and isolate individuals from the group in order to extract the proper amount of pain from them without the knowledge of the others. That however would require more risky planning, and unfortunately would probably result in the isolated victim not being left alive. For the most part I would probably try to avoid turning on my friends because I know as long as I stayed (or appeared) faithful they would protect me and I could trust them. As for the other group, you can't trust anything they would say or do, so it would be too risky to suddenly switch teams, even if that team seemed like they were more likely to succeed. That said, I would prefer the second scenario as to the one where we have to fill our own viles, as I have a pretty high pain tolerance and that could effect the rate to which my vile fills. (A fact I would make all too apparent to the members of the group, if I did find myself in the second scenario, in hopes that the difficulty would deter them from attempting to hurt me in order to fill my vile) | 1 | Well if I were to say I am sociopathic, though never diagnosed, then I would imagine that an empathic person would do whatever is possible to protect the lives and integrity of the group, while still preserving his or her own life. For example, a weak empath (one emotionally unstable) would probably spend a lot of the time panicking, and would shed tears whenever he or she had to witness another person getting hurt. The weak empath would also probably insist that the members of the group do not need to take part in this, and that there has to be some way they can work together in order to escape without hurting any people. If however, there is no other options, the weak empath might even start to mentally shut-down in order to protect him or herself from the horrors that will be witnessed. Now if we look at an empath who's a little more mentally stable, one who is saddened but not destroyed by their guilt and the suffering of others. They would probably still do their best to keep the group working together (as empaths like to feel secure in numbers), and might even take on a leadership role, feeling like it's his or her job to manage the integrity of the group, and ensure that everyone stays within the proper lines of morality. Although unlike the weaker empath, the stronger one would recognize possible threats, such as a member starting to turn on the group, and for the sake of the group, would reluctantly subdue the individual. The stronger empath would work hard to prevent any death amongst the group, but would also recognize the situation, and understand that some things may get out of control, and if so the stronger empath will do what is necessary, but will be haunted by the decisions made for quite some time, always looking back and wondering if another choice could have been made. | |||||||||||||||||
28 | 2/19/2014 0:16:01 | Possibly Sociopathic Narcissist | No | First I would attempt to test the veracity of the claims made in the video, because honestly, the claims are quite ridiculous and unlikely. If found to be true and entirely unavoidable as the premise implies, it is obvious that the only thing to do is actually fill the vials no matter the cost. I would choose the best options for myself that would maximize pain while minimizing permanent scarring/maiming. So boiling water is out of the question. Probably find something relatively small, but sharp, and stab non-essential or peripheral parts of the body (through the foot, the hand, ear, etc.) Parts that would not being ruined with minor stabbing. My main goal would be saving myself of course, but I would save the others as much as I could without putting myself in any additional danger. If the others don't want me to save their lives by hurting them then that is their loss, more time for me to spread out the pain as much as possible in order to save myself. | 1 | Most "Neurotypicals" (although I would venture to say that most people have some form of oddity/quirk that separates them from the idyllic normal) would likely act similarly. They may struggle with doing it as efficiently and the emotional toll might be greater, but to resign themselves to death because they were unwilling to endure pain is silly at best. There may be some that would be too "weak" to do so, but I would like to think that a majority would be able to complete the task for their own survival. | |||||||||||||||||
29 | 2/18/2014 9:28:03 | recovering borderline,recovering addict, recovering bulimic, intermittent depression ongoing | yes. | I would freak out! I would ask my friends what to do. I might just lie down and die.(I'm not to afraid of dying, I'm a very spiritual person, and believe I'm 'guided' in this life.) I live in the present moment as often as possible, so I can't truly answer this. I would be 'guided' as to what to do. This is a pretty crazy scenario, and I often wonder why I still visit this site, because this is nuts!...And I'm into peace.love,acceptance,truly caring about others at a deep level.(the opposite of a sociopath?) You guys fascinate me, we are so opposite! It's interesting how we attract one another. Thanks to this site, I've learned, "how to spot a sociopath!" I believe it's actually kept me away from a couple. | 3 | I have no idea how a sociopath would respond. They'd probably choose the quickest way to get this all over with. They'd use logic and reason. I suppose if I wanted to live I might enlist their help. Sociopaths seem to love me.(I've been a great target. But I'm getting to old . I like the 'high', but can't take the abuse anymore.) I wish we could all work this out M.E., for you...and for us. I've felt your pain on here.(some of your posts.) I wish you the best. This blog is interesting, educational. Thanks for doing if. | |||||||||||||||||
30 | 2/18/2014 10:32:06 | Schizoid | Oh yes, but I resent the implication that there is something wrong with being this way. | Honestly I would never be in this situation. Having SPD generally assures that I would never find myself traveling anywhere with a group of friends, nor would I ever allow them to stop for a hitchhiker. But, suspending disbelief a bit, and saying I somehow ended up in that situation... My group would contain people with bi-polar disorder, schizophrenia, narcissistic personality disorder, an 'aspie' and another with SPD. I think we'd be pretty fucked. My idea would be to use the 22 hours to track down the a-holes that did it and take them down, and failing that, pull the damn vial out of my head. Either way I die, but to me this is preferable to playing some dickhead's sick game. The hope of survival would not be enough. When I know I am being manipulated, I dig my heels in. I have spent my life refusing to cooperate with the group, refusing to play the games. I don't consider death to be 'losing' if I have lived on my terms. And really, there is no guarantee that the people responsible would really let us live. I'd think the odds are slim. I don't trust people. So even if we used the 22 hours to, say, try to find an alternative solution, like a drug that could be taken to force production of that brain chemical without having to run around hitting ourselves in the face with hammers, they'd probably kill us at the end anyway. I'd be pretty satisfied if I could take them out before I died, but if not - say, if they have big fucking guns - I am going to deprive them of my part in their game entirely. | 2 | I imagine the sociopaths would do their best to play the game and live... At least until the creeps show up, thank everyone for playing, and then kill everyone anyway. You can't leave lose ends. Not that I don't find you all interesting (most people can't make me de-lurk), but how is not having a conscience going to stop you from getting shot? If it did, that'd be swell, don't get me wrong. It might make it easier to play the sick game, but you're still playing, which in my eyes means you lose. As for the empaths, well, there's a good chance they came up with the game in the first place. Don't trust them. | |||||||||||||||||
31 | 2/18/2014 18:35:42 | Schizophreniform | yes | I would make a game out of it (for lack of a better word). I know that I would have difficulty inflicting pain on myself, so I would give everyone a tool and make it a tag game, or something along those lines (perhaps trivia?). Either that or I would have at myself and other people. I don't think I would have much difficulty hurting other people if it were for their own good, and they "wanted" it. | 1 | Similarly (although that could be a projection) | |||||||||||||||||
32 | 2/18/2014 3:15:39 | Socio | yes | Torture and kill everyone steal their fluid | 4 | Yawn no disrespect | |||||||||||||||||
33 | 2/18/2014 1:51:14 | Sociopath | Yes | First, determine surroundings and get a measure of tools, people, as well as surveillance. It is highly probable that, given the conditions applied, that everyone is being observed. If assuming the conditions are unavoidable - all things being equal - then maximizing the necessary production of the fluid while minimizing damage (specifically permanent) is advisable. Burns, such as those from boiling water would provide the extremes needed, however if used, it should be limited to non-vital or non-utility surface areas of the body. Second-degree burns sustained can be healed after the fact. Other tools, which can inflict open wounds or internal injury should be avoided. However, it is important to note that, all things being equal, that escape or release is not a valid option. Given the level of surgical sophistication, as well as the professionalism of the woman, escape/release will not be possible. Revelation of identity precludes the possibility of either escape or release. It can be assumed that the antagonist's intent is the eventual death of the prisoners, and the level of intelligence as well as mental discipline and stability suggests that the possibilities of escape were accounted for. If survival after fulfillment of dictated requirements is not possible, two options remain: 1) Attempt escape, since possible escape is superior to guaranteed death, or 2) Suicide, since if guaranteed death, then doing so under personal terms of minimized pain (ie. quick and/or relatively painless) is preferred. Since #1 will be attempted by at least some prisoners, detailed observation of efforts to analyse the feasibility of escape should be conducted in case of antagonist repercussions. | 1 | Panic, followed by interaction with other prisoners. Attempt communication with antagonist. Plead. This is followed by attempting escape, most likely as a group effort lead by a dominant personality. Infliction of pain as instructed will not be attempted. | |||||||||||||||||
34 | 2/18/2014 2:27:04 | sociopath | no | I would be like "*sigh* Fuck..." As I get used to pain rather fast, and have a very high threshold for it, I would probably have to do something fatal to fill the vials up. Like slashing my wrists to expose the nerves and then scraping them with something. I'm sure I would bleed out, if not cut a vein in the process, and kill myself. I'm pretty sure that sex releases the same "brain fluids" as pain so having a lot of sex should work. My official answer is I would talk everyone into banging each other. Assuming that noone will, and I can't rape anyone because the others would stop me, I would sit back and watch everyone hurt themselves. I'm not going to be a lab rat for someone. | 1 | They would: 1) get hysterical 2) go thru the 5 stages of grief. 3) either stop at stage 4 (or 5) or kill themselves in the process of hurting themselves. | |||||||||||||||||
35 | 2/18/2014 2:41:39 | Sociopath | No | I would think that this is most probably a set up to see how much people are willing to go through, and put each other through, simply because an authority tells them to. Would try to encourage the group to test this "instantly fatal if removed" claim. Talk to them (especially the weakest link) about 22 hours of horrific torture. The people clearly have no problems with us all dying, so no guarantee that they will keep their word and let us go, even if the vials are full to the brim by the end of the 22 hours. Suggest trying the option of instant death, but stress possibility of freedom and being a hero who saves us all. If test fails, aka they die, we know it's not a set up. Now we're fucked. Will probably not be able to inflict adequate pain on ourselves, so I would probably volunteer to help others "reach their goal". I'm the altruistic type :) If it's possible to see fluid levels, then would start out with least painful and see how much fluid fills up to test how extreme the pain really has to be. Would also test if *promise* of extreme pain to come has any effect on fluid levels. Sometimes the promise of torture gets more of a reaction than the act. If can't see levels, then I guess we're doubly fucked. Have to inflict maximum pain with minimal bodily harm. This is in case you need them further down the line, you want them to as self reliant as possible. Eg. break one of their fingers, then twist it every now and then. Breaking a leg or amputating bits won't do. Too much bleeding, too incapacitated. And you don't want to have to carry the fuckers if you need to run later. But keep a mental inventory of each person's injuries and areas of weakness just in case there's a part 2 where you need to fight them. | 1 | Lots of crying and snivelling, probably. | |||||||||||||||||
36 | 2/18/2014 3:44:36 | Sociopath | nearly outed myself during a Psych Exam. | Promptly I would sigh since if we survived the event placed upon us would make our collective recovery time exceptionally high with an also high chance of scars forming. I would first provide the means for the pain the most efficient way, having everyone gang up on one person so that their vial fills the quickest. Then repeat the cycle though in all likelihood the probability of surviving this ordeal would be quite low so I would counsel everyone to accept their possible deaths. | 1 | Scream, cry, beg for mercy. Probably the five stages of grief would occur. Generic tomfoolery. | |||||||||||||||||
37 | 2/18/2014 5:10:37 | Sociopath | No | Fantasising about death and taking a life, whether it be my own, my family's, or a complete strangers is a favourite pastime of mine. I have never killed anyone before simply because logic tells me I'll get caught and I'm not trying to have my life disrupted by murder charges over curiosity. So instead of playing along with someone else's game... Knowing that there is a huge risk of something going wrong as I'm causing bodily harm to myself, an I could accidentally kill myself and shorten those hours given to me. I would accept my inevitable death in the next 22 hours and take advantage of this situation. Make the best of my last hours alive instead of living it in excruciating pain. "Go out with a bang," if I must say. I would play the role of the self-sacrificing/the altruist. Seem as if I would give up my life to help them. I would appeal to their emotions an I would suggest to allow me to help carry their burdens, instead of having to endure the pain and execute the act, I would give up my precious time "helping" them. In short, I would torture the willing subjects and definitely use this opportunity to kill someone/people. Cut a major artery, under the guise of, "Oh my god, he lost too much blood, he begged me to keep cutting." Then cue the facial expressions of shock, sadness and guilt, as I inwardly take pleasure of watching the blood pool around lifeless bodies. Maybe I'll even enjoy it so much I'll take them all out. As it becomes noticeable that everyone I "helped" is now dead, I'll just blatantly murder those weak and self-mutilated few left. Then I can spend my last hours alone. Peacefully, basking in the high and pleasure of my acts. If I get tired of waiting to die I may just recite Wolfgang von Goethe as I slit my wrist, he appealed to suicide so beautifully in, "The Sorrows of Young Werther". | 4 | I assume an empath would be frantic, very loud and annoying, as their very being seeps with helplessness. Instead of clearly assessing the situation, being so clouded by emotions and the primal instinct to survive they would probably just start chopping away at their hands and feet after they've worked up enough courage to mutilate themselves, and probably end up bleeding to death way before the 22 hours is up. | |||||||||||||||||
38 | 2/18/2014 6:41:17 | sociopath | no | i think i would feel frustrated and afraid at first. it would probably pass by like a wave and then i would start thinking again. i'd first watch people come to a decision. i think i'd be interested to see how people react, although most of them would probably just complain or cry. i wouldn't hurt myself, but i'd hurt other people if they asked me to. otherwise, there's no reason to hurt anybody. i think the first step would be filling someone's vial and seeing what happens. if it really does lead to freedom, i might use someone else's brain liquid to fill my own vial, i don't know. for the most part, i'd just watch other people behave and try to play along with them. | 1 | i think an empath would try to come to a rational decision that does not involve unnecessary violence. looking for escape routes, using the objects to try and break the door, etc. they would probably sit in distress for a good amount of time before taking action. i think some of them might even decide to hurt themselves. | |||||||||||||||||
39 | 2/18/2014 6:49:34 | sociopath | yes | I would be kinda impressed over the degree of diabolical thinking in evidence. If the fluid is produced by pain stimuli I guess I would knuckle down-fill the vial-but if the fluid was based on stress or fear then the likelihood is that I would fail utterly. | 1 | The empaths would be in a state of stress and would probably waste time and energy dealing with emotional static. | |||||||||||||||||
40 | 2/18/2014 8:24:02 | Sociopath | Yes | I would fabricate a story that would gain pity then persuade the others to do more painful things and I would get out with minor aches and pains even if it meant killing someone | 1 | I would do my fair share and probably die like a dumbass | |||||||||||||||||
41 | 2/18/2014 9:54:04 | sociopath | no | I would pick a person, isolate them from the group, break every bone in their body one by one, pull fingernails and toenails, cut off fingers, pull off toes, remove eyelids, sever the nerves behind the eye, cut off their ears, skin sections of them, cauterize the skinned sections and then I would slowly burn them from the feet up. If I had not obtained enough, I would repeat the procedure on another subject. | 1 | I believe that an empath would probably try to find a "fair" way to distribute the torture. | |||||||||||||||||
42 | 2/18/2014 10:40:28 | Sociopath | No | A specific amount of the fluid needs to be obtained. Therefore, I would direct the group to come up with the most optimum, quickest and efficient means of causing each other physical pain as possible. The quicker it is pver, the better. We would inflict pain on one another as most people couldn't be trusted to inflict the maximum amount f pain on themselves. | 1 | I honestly have no idea. Assuming my understanding of the situation is correct my explanation seems like the only logical one anyone would do, regardless of sociopath/empath. | |||||||||||||||||
43 | 2/18/2014 10:54:12 | sociopath | no | Things like this get me excited. a fight for my life. First, I would find the thing that produces the best outcome and extort it. gladly volunteer as the test subject provided i was in control of the situation. simple cutting, salting wounds, pulling finger nails, etc. Nothing to leave me crippled to defend myself as no one in the room would be trustworthy to not tie me down and brutalize me. If someone thought they were above the rest, it would be easy to convince the rest of the group that they should give a little more to the pot for being such a dick. seems pretty easy in my head. | 1 | Fear. fear. fear. irrational thought. i think everyone would want to "do themselves" which wouldn't produce results as most people can't push pain unto themselves. I think you'd find the overly emotional people to maybe go overboard out of rage? cause an issue where there was a simple plan? dont know. crazy fun to think about, thanks! | |||||||||||||||||
44 | 2/18/2014 12:51:40 | sociopath | no | I feel like this would be a dangerous situation and the best thing to do would be to go in rounds, alternating between people from a subset of the group until they have filled their vials, thus allowing the people causing the pain to be able to continue unimpaired and the brains to rest for better fluid production. Then, once the first half of the group had finished the rest would go. I'm not sure where I would fit in. Probably getting pained first. | 1 | Freak out, cry, get stressed. They might or might not do it and probably wouldn't be very good at it either. | |||||||||||||||||
45 | 2/18/2014 13:46:15 | sociopath | no | I would try to strike a deal with this woman. Offer her my services for future experiments. I could collect more human guinea pigs or become the torturer. Great minds do think alike! Im sure we could work something out. | 2 | I think an empath would probably shit their pants and ball up in a corner to cry their last 22 hours away. ~Chem | |||||||||||||||||
46 | 2/18/2014 15:33:15 | sociopath | no | I would act nominally in the interest of fairness, I think. I would fill my "fair" share of 10% first, and then wait to see if the others are swayed by my example. If they are neurotypicals then I believe they would be, but if they don't, then my goal would be to cause as much damage as possible to ensure that I get out alive. I want to go first (or at all) because I want to prove to myself that I really am the master of myself and that pain is not something that can damage me. Pain is a sensation, just like any other, and if something that doesn't even exist outside of my mind can control my life, then there's no real point of living an actual life instead of delving into a fake, imaginary world. So I would do this pain test to prove that I am capable of living a real life, grounded in the real world. Going first would also give me the intimidation factor of someone balls out crazy, making the neurotypicals less likely to gang up on me. | 1 | I think neurotypicals would either gang up on a single member or work together to bear the pain together, depending on the group dynamics. Either way, neurotypicals would not view the pain as something to be dominated or even something to be enjoyed. They would not make the distinction that pain is completely inside one's head, and they would treat it like an entity unto itself, something that cannot simply be banished. I think that is the biggest difference between them and us, treating pain (and emotions in general) as unimpeachable laws rather than malleable mental states. | |||||||||||||||||
47 | 2/18/2014 15:45:27 | Sociopath | No | I would probaly start off a little confused but eventually regain my full concentration, I would start by filling my own vial by myself and for anyone who does not want theirs filled, to put it simply i would do it for them. | 1 | Based on my knowledge of how the norm think and fear, only a few (empaths) would have the ability to do the task themselves. I think most would start to sob or get emotional and would not have the ability to inflict injuries on themselves/others. | |||||||||||||||||
48 | 2/18/2014 17:53:11 | Sociopath | No | I wouldn't feel anything. I would use the tools that would inflict just enough pain to cause the brain fluid to fill the vial but not enough to permanently damage nerves bc then I wouldn't feel pain any more. And whatever will cause the least amount of scarring. | 1 | I think an Empath would freak out and waste time trying to find their way out. Avoid the situation. Cry. | |||||||||||||||||
49 | 2/18/2014 20:40:44 | sociopath | no | I'd be a bit pissed off at first that I've been manipulated. After a while I would become largely task orientated. My task would be to cause the most amount of pain to other people without actually killing them in order to save them. ;-) I'm not interested in causing any pain to myself, let alone extreme pain in order to live. I would quietly accept my fate that I only had 22 hours left to live, but absolutely relish the diabolic situation I was placed in. We all die sooner or later, why does it matter if its 22 hours or 22 years. Go out with a bang I reckon. Given an awesome excuse to hurt, and with consent of willing participants, sounds like fun to me. | 1 | Empaths: They would probably let you do stupidly horrible things to them to save their wretched little lives. Feeble of mind. | |||||||||||||||||
50 | 2/18/2014 22:13:23 | sociopath | no | Life-threatening situations make me very calm and focused. I'm sure this one would be no different. I would try to take control of the group and organize the proceedings to ensure the objective was reached, preferably without killing anyone on accident. And in the interest of not killing anyone, I would attempt to minimize the amount of torture I underwent. My pain threshold is so high that broken bones, severe burns and blows to the head are only midly painful. Death would probably occur before extreme pain. I would use any means necessary to achieve the above. | 1 | I expect they would behave the same way I've seen them behave in stressful and life-threatening situations. Under those conditions they gravitate toward whoever the calmest, most authoritative person is. They will do just about anything this authoritative person tells them to without questioning it. | |||||||||||||||||
51 | 2/19/2014 2:34:58 | Sociopath | no | Remove the vials , die and get it over with. What is the point in extreme suffering? When you are dead you are dead and then nothing matters anyway. | 3 | I think they would be prepared to go through extreme suffering to stay alive , never even contemplating just removing them and die. However, that is in theory. If they were actually in a real situation I am not sure they would be able to do it. | |||||||||||||||||
52 | 2/19/2014 4:08:52 | Sociopath | Yes | I would probably be disappointed and angry for a short while,it wouldn't last long I suspect. The tools I would use would be blunt objects like hammers or pipes,anything that could break bones quickly and easily.I'm not sure how much pain would be necessary.I would target non essential bones that heal easily/quicker. I don't want nasty burn scars. As for administration of pain, I would probably convince the group to hurt each other.I imagine it would be hard to smash your own bones,physically and psychologically.It could also be a little fun. Thus would be done away from the others and the sufferer would be given something to bite down on,mostly to muffle the screams. | 1 | They would probably be enraged,hysterical and inconsolable, maybe have a panic attack. It would probably be easy enough to convince them to hurt each other(after they had finished crying). Anyone not up to the task would either be taken care of first to get them out of the way or to discourage inactivity. They would look for direction. | |||||||||||||||||
53 | 2/19/2014 12:12:09 | Sociopath | With other things, yes | I am heavy into the BDSM scene and quite the sadomasochist...I receive pleasure from giving as well as receiving pain. I would "throw the idea our there" (aka prove to everyone that my idea was best) to just beat the fuck out of each other's fleshy parts until we could no longer lift an arm or a leg. Not too long into a beating, endorphins are released into the system, "numbing" the awareness of the painful activity. To put it bluntly, I would look on the positive side and seize the opportunity to get the shit beaten out of me and beat the shit out of others. We would all get high. We would all live. Win. Not into beating? We have plenty of other kinky & painful activities for your liking! Needleplay! Fireplay! Artistic cutting! Cell popping! Try sticking a needle through your nipple and admitting that shit didn't hurt! Times that one needle by 10, 100 or even 1000 and I'm fairly certain that vile would be full and I would be high as shit on brain juice. Yum. | 1 | I feel that empaths would have a hell of time hurting others, even if it was to the receiving end's benefit. In my years in the BDSM community I have met people I like to call a"service tops" - aka someone who may inflict pain upon/dominate another person for the pleasure of the person who is "bottoming." In regards to this freaky scenario, the service tops would be easily identified. They would find no pleasure in beating others to save their lives. I, on the other hand, would be high on the endorphins and the power in those 22 hours. No fear of death - just excitement of life. I'm high curious how an empath would answer this. | |||||||||||||||||
54 | 2/19/2014 19:30:57 | Sociopath | Yes | I would feel sad. | Badly. | ||||||||||||||||||
55 | 2/19/2014 19:38:55 | Sociopath | No | The problem: I am in a room full of emotionally charged morons who begin lashing out at each other. The solution: observe the players, craft my appearance appropriately, and subtly build certain types of relationships, for the right moment. Goal: experience no pain whilst the others do the work for me* My first move would be to sit back and stay quiet, but appear adequately worried whilst my eyes survey the situation (looking around the room also serving the purpose of sizing up the current issues which will cause a problem at some point; the tools, location, people). To this end I would watch everyone else's reactions to the situation and, still blending in by acting quietly, wait for each person to evolve into their most suited role - the calm 'leader', the hysterical, the aggressive hysterical and, specifically, a scapegoat (likely a former hysterical who starts personally lashing out at everyone). As the time ticks on, the forced calm turns into frenzy and the others begin to fulfil their suited roles I would focus on one key player: the leader. The reason for this choice is that the leader will have elected themselves thus by popular vote (either by forcing the aggressive hystericals’ to be quiet and/or by the rest being too scared to do anything) and will begin delegating tasks to the others with the aim of distributing the pain democratically. Of course, at this time I will carefully balance my appearance between a lost sheep and being vaguely useful to his rule so as to stay blended in and gain their trust. I will then focus on the key dissenters to the leaders rule (likely the most aggressive yet hysterical members who do a lot of shouting and little else) because they will tip the balance of power and control in my favour later. Of course, I want to get out of suffering any pain at all even if it means dying in 22 hours or whatever. In order to take control of the situation I need to gradually appear less like a hysterical sheep and as calm as I really feel in order to be seen as someone to follow by the rest. This will put me in direct competition with the 'leader' who will want me to face the fire along with the others. At this point I will try to stir things by doing some crazy acting and emotional pleas to the hystericals' (their native language) in order to start a shouting match/ ruffle the leaders control. As a matter of course I will try to take control by force from the leader once their support has waned by using one of the tools to disable them. *If experiencing no pain is not an option due to the 22 hour time limit (until what?) problem then I would rather die quickly, preferably causing as much crazed lunacy as possible. - I got bored of writing this so it isn't finished, but you'll get the idea. | 1 | I assume an Empath would be one of the hysterical people who spend the entire time wailing and being useless. | |||||||||||||||||
56 | 2/19/2014 23:49:18 | Sociopath | Yes | I would attempt to use the tools to see how well we have been held in our fancy cage. If removal were possible, I'd likely show that to the others. I know their desire to escape is driven by fear, so it is greater than mine. I can do nothing before we are free anyway. While I've convinced them, in their now fear controlled state, to get us out of here, I will chip in and work as well so that I appear to be like them, but what I really want is to thing. I'm going to disengage from "small talk" or "comfort conversation." It is pointless and a waste of brain power right now, and a possible cause of confusion. I need to remember that womans face. I need to see it, perfectly in my mind. I need to remember it to the point that I can close my eyes and see it, because as soon as we are free, I am coming after her. Either that or we are dead. However, I'm going to call her bluff. If some of these idiots want to play by the rules like it is a simple chess game, let them. They are just as easily controlled, and once they see that we are free, or nearing freedom, they will follow us, which ultimately means me, and move me towards my goal quicker. Ultimately, she wants me to play her game. However, I can't help but feel like she thought someone might try what I'm doing. So what would be waiting for us on the outside? Is there an outside? I don't know, but it is a situation where it is the only option if I do not want to just submit to her wish. She wants to see how fast we will turn on each other. Yes, we can get pain from self infliction or from agreed infliction, but the real pain for most of these baboons will be emotional, not physical. In which case, I would never be freed by her game, as pain is just a sensory, no emotional connection. It is an indicator that there is stress on the body, like dehydration. This women caught the wrong fish in her net today, as even sharks are considered such. Except she, being a tiger shark, has chosen to anger a bull shark. She seems to have technological know-how as well as monetary resources on her side. That is fine, it will mean taking her down will be that much more enjoyable. If she were listening, I'd shout back into the house as we break out, "I wanna play, I hope you're sure you do." Smile, and leave. While everyone else is probably relieved just to be free, I am excited to begin my hunt. Will I kill her? I'm not sure. Will I get revenge? I am definitely certain. Now the first thing I'm going to do is find out where video source for the introduction to our situation was at the beginning. If that turns up no leads, I'm off to find out who pays the bills for this place, how far we are from our original destination, as well as have blood-work done to see if I can find any clues from the gas used on us. | 2 | Likely they would try to cause enough of the brain fluid, which, assuming this woman is telling truth, would possibly get them freed. However, it may be harder than they thought, and the emotional pain could inadvertently help them along. If they were to attempt to escape, I can imagine it to be fear driven as well as fear denied. Some would shun them, maybe even try to stop them from attempting escape. If escape is achieved, I can imagine them asking someone else (like the government) to find out who did this, to prosecute them, ask for assistance in self repair, and ultimately just be relived that they are back under control of something familiar rather than someone they don't know and are not used to being controlled by. They think they are free, but they just like one captor better than the other. | |||||||||||||||||
57 | 2/18/2014 9:42:00 | sociopathic sadomasochist | no | Option A) I hate being manipulated and/or ordered to do things, so I might refuse to participate: WTF is she going to do if we refuse to comply? Option B) Torture other people and be tortured myself. (We each have to fill our own vial, after all) Obviously I would attempt to avoid being tortured in any way that would do permanent damage. I would probably be more creative and less mindful of the consequences while doing my part in torturing others :) | 1 | I expect that the reaction of most empaths would depend on how afraid they are of pain. The ones that are very afraid of pain will fight tooth and nail not to be tortured, but may torture others because they "have to." The most empathetic may not be able to bring themselves to hurt the others at first, but will probably change their minds after being tortured enough. An empathetic sadist would probably get the ball rolling, free to hurt people without the constraints of social norms. I expect that most socios would go into it with a similar attitude to mine: we have to do this, so let's do it. This might change depending on their reaction to the pain of torture. I expect that most socios would get at least some pleasure out of torturing the others, if only because (presumably, for most) it is a new experience. | |||||||||||||||||
58 | 2/18/2014 19:30:39 | Super-empath | -- | This is a difficult hypothetical because the decision has already been made for the reader that they are to go through ordeal; there is no option to simply choose death, which I might perhaps find preferable. But, since death is not a possibility, I think a certain systematic approach would have to be developed in order for the participants to psychologically make it through the experience. This means the person being brutalized must keep in touch with some part of his humanity, while the people doing the torturing (assuming they are empaths) must emotionally separate themselves from the event. I would handle it so one person somehow consoles the person being tortured (in whatever way a person being tortured can be consoled). Maybe that involves holding the person, whispering comforting words in their ear, etc. Those torturing must become temporarily sociopathic; oblivious to the other person's humanity, and just methodically performing the given task, as if on a piece of meat. Emotionally, I would not hold up well. I think that my concern would not so much be directed towards myself being able to endure the torture as it would be knowing I would have to torture another. Like I said, death is preferable. The prospect of imagining another human as a pulsating piece of meat that can be cut, boiled, and poked disgusts me. I hate the idea of watching someone lose themselves and their humanity because, if I had to torture someone, that is what I must do; trick myself into believing that they are not a person. Of course, I am a sixteen-year old girl, so take that into consideration, or not, in whatever way you choose. | 1 | I know one sociopath intimately, and he enjoyed breaking people's noses in martial arts because he loved the bloodstains it left on his shirt. I'm not saying all sociopaths share the same insatiable bloodlust, but I think they would certainly be able to cope better than an empath. Their concerns might be more self-directed towards the pain they themselves might experience, rather than the pain they are inflicting on others. | |||||||||||||||||
59 | 2/18/2014 2:11:38 | unknown | no | Attack the other people but not enough to stop them for retaliating and if that fails, saw off my right arm (left handed) | 1 | Sociopath Attack or manipulate others to force them to attack Empath Hurt themselves, if that fails attack others to get attacked themselves | |||||||||||||||||
60 | 2/18/2014 17:29:41 | Unknown | No | I would freak out a bit at first from the gravity of the situation, and I demand to know if they really will let us go after the brain fluid quota has been filled. Then I would start plotting. First, I would kill someone on my group, then someone on the other group, and then convince my group that the other side is planning to kill us. Then I would stand back and watch the people on my team and the other team fight and destroy each other, thus filling the brain fluid quota. | 1 | They would curl up in a ball and wait to die. | |||||||||||||||||
61 | 2/18/2014 1:24:56 | Unsure | No, spent a lot of time in mental health care though. | If it's only physical pain that causes this fluid to be released, then I most likely start causing small burns with low heat, low collateral damage, but severe pain. | 1 | It's a matter of survival. I think when presented with death, unless harbouring a death wish, anyone would take logical steps to ensure survival. | |||||||||||||||||
62 | 2/20/2014 2:37:37 | neurotypical | no | Firstly the definition of extreme pain is questionable here. How extreme is extreme pain? Does the woman specify, as people have different pain tolerances and if there are women in the group theirs would typically be higher. If there are self harmers in the group, or masochists, would they need different treatment? Your body, when significantly wounded, produces chemicals to numb the wounded area. Some people may even pass out before they can 'fill' the hypothetical vial, so you would have to encourage them to stay awake. All these questions aside, in the given situation I would probably just right down to it and either dunk my arm in the boiling water, ask my friend to break my leg/arm, slam my hand in a door or smash with a blunt instrument. The pain would be enough to feel but not so to pass out, thus ensuring the filling of the vial. I don't really care what the others decide to do, as far as I am concerned, if it is about survival, then I will survive. If however, the game requires that all of us succeed or die, then I would probably encourage others to do the same. Skin can heal, bones can be fixed and if there is a chance of living over dying, it should be taken. Pain doesn't have to be dealt in a sadistic manner, or crippling, or gory in order to be effective. Logically this is the most efficient way to go about it. I would definitely want to seek revenge. I would want to out smart the captor and take them down, even give them a taste of their own medicine. I would want them to suffer for hurting people I care about. Saying that, in all honesty I don't know what I would actually do, as I have never been in that situation. I know that I am stubborn and I do not like authority, so someone trying to control my actions will almost definitely be met with defiance, at least initially. Survival is more important of course, so I don't know how long that defiance would last. | To be honest I do not care how someone else would respond. If there is an empathic person in the group, I would probably encourage them to receive the pain so that they can live. To let anyone die in this situation would not be encouraged, so I may go so far as to harm them to save their life, but if they want to die, I have other things to do in the given time. I think a sociopath would probably seek to beat the captor, or they may even enjoy playing along. Perhaps they would encourage the others to play, while they seek ways to beat the oppressor. | ||||||||||||||||||
63 | 2/20/2014 5:56:21 | sociopath | yep | Recognizing that i probably wouldn't make it out of this situtation alive, even if i did fill the vial. I would probably just kill myself. | Get overwhelmed with emotions, panic, search for a way out, die by failing to fill up the vial in 22hrs. | ||||||||||||||||||
64 | 2/21/2014 14:50:28 | elements of an empath | no | I would remove the vial or sit out the 22 hours (and spend it talking about the good times, try and make the group feel more relaxed), save the pain. | I imagine a sociopath could take the pain and would be less scared of it. They'd do what was necessary to save themselves. | ||||||||||||||||||
65 | 2/21/2014 17:36:32 | sociopath? | no | My immediate thought would be my own survival. While others were in a state of shock I would seize the opportunity to become a leader and help everyone muster the strength and courage to accomplish this grueling task. I would inveigle them into working together with me while we (as efficiently as possible) acquire brain fluid from the other group of test subjects. I would tell my team that in order for everyone to get enough, we would fill a large container with the collected fluid. Once as much fluid as possible was collected, I would knock everyone else out (I wouldn't kill them... after all, they are my friends) and take the amount I needed. | They would be too squeamish to do anything at first and would inevitably die from lack of organization, fear and the inability to hurt another. | ||||||||||||||||||
66 | 2/22/2014 5:01:10 | not sure | No | I'd feel angry, then strangely amused. Then I'd smash up her tv, go look for cameras to destroy so she doesn't get the pleasure of watching. Then I'd step back and reevaluate the situation. The most important part would be, to figure out a way of extracting the fluid from the brain, after that... well for one, she did not specify the type of pain necessary to fill the vials (emotional or physical?). I guess I'd try to talk the group into trying emotional pain first by grouping up and ganking a selected test subect. If that does not suffice, then the toughminded of our group would be the ones to inflict pain on the test subjects while the sensitive ones need only to watch to feel the pain themselves.. besides they probably won't be able to inflict enough pain to produce the required quality of brain fluid anyway. But if they didn't feel enough pain from watching and tried to fake their way out of it, they'd die, because those who watched can only receive their own brain fluid to fill their vial. While the ones who inflicted pain and the victims would switch positions and get each other's fluids that way (the victims would feel justified in inflicting pain on their torturers that way, and also their torturers have already extracted enough of the victim's fluid to live.). After that one's done, and nobody dies from it. The next action would be to find a way to escape then to find the identity of that woman. | An empath would probably go into hysterics from the stress, they'd probably do crazy things that are not conducive to survival. A sociopath would probably act more rationally and would listen more to reason. And reason states that one must find means to survive, while emotion says 'fuck survival, I'd rather get angry or cry or something'. | ||||||||||||||||||
67 | 2/22/2014 12:08:49 | idk | No | I would suggest anal for everybody. It sounds like a joke, but it can be extremely painful for everyone if done right (wrong?), and after awhile pleasurable endorphins will be released for most people receiving it, and it works out for the people giving it as well. | I think empaths would follow the leader, and sociopaths would try to lead and minimize their own pain. | ||||||||||||||||||
68 | 2/23/2014 7:55:59 | neurotypical | no | I would ask the group to use me to get the vial filled. My reasoning being- I would take enormous comfort in the idea that my suffering was preventing theirs. It would also provide a level of reassurance to the rest of the group that the problem could be solved- and the reason this is so important is that it would greatly ratchet down the fear quotient of the group. | I think the sociopath would wait and see if any one volunteered to take on a sacrificial role. If not, the sociopath would pay attention to rising hostilities (increased fear quotient) due to panic and would seek to exploit them by provoking rage (either directly or through triangulation) so the group would turn on itself and the sociopath could sit on the sidelines as a bystander. | ||||||||||||||||||
69 | 2/24/2014 9:19:50 | on the way to being psycho or narc, but high functioning | no | Feel? I don't know. Upset that I was in a bad situation. What would I do? Go to work on the others so that all their vials are full to bursting and use their fluids to bargain my release on the grounds that this gave a higher total yield than all poking ourselves as much as we could bear. I'd also make sure I had a butcher knife or similar concealed so that if my bargaining failed I could fight my way out or at least fuck up my captors. | Empaths would fail to hurt others until they became good and desperate. They might hurt themselves when the panic really set in but would probably fail to fill the vial unless the physical pain of fear produced the fluid too. | ||||||||||||||||||
70 | 2/25/2014 12:47:38 | I don't know | no | I would feel powerless and angry. I would not trust the message. | hopeless | ||||||||||||||||||
71 | 2/25/2014 19:13:27 | sociopath | yes | The first thing I would do was smile that her statement has left enough loopholes for me to get around. She never said the fluid had to be your own. The statement was that they had to be filled with a certain amount of fluid, not necessarily be full. So I would agree to the congregations of others and work together for the time being. Then I would slowly began pitting the others against one specific person. This is a typical result of being in a high stress environment especially if fear of pain is involved. After using the mob affect on the target, as a group we would then use this person to harvest enough fluid for everyone else. It is better to sacrifice one than the entire group. | The empaths obviously would succumb to the mob affect, given that fear of pain is actually worse than the pain itself. Even empaths will resort to animalistic behavior to save their own self, as this is human nature. | ||||||||||||||||||
72 | 2/26/2014 7:58:56 | sociopath | no | I really don't know, I mean firstly I wouldn't of picked up the woman in the first place (being female myself) and even if I had and really was in this situation I think I would actually sort of admire that she wasn't your general moron whos pathetic life had led them into some sort of inability to fend for herself and thereby afford her own mode of transport. It would be exiting though I guess, well maybe i would try to find a way by which I could convince the others involved to willingly end their lives so as to provide a distraction substantial enough to allow me to find some means of escape. It's a tricky question though. | I don't know. Probably cry or something. | ||||||||||||||||||
73 | 2/27/2014 14:18:11 | Sociopath | No | Have the others tie me down and get my required amount, then repeat the process with the others. | Try to "go out together". They probably wouldn't help me by hurting me | ||||||||||||||||||
74 | 2/28/2014 4:09:55 | socio | no | what the fuck kind of shit is this? lashes. this is what lashes are for. what's good for that, a belt? maybe boiling water for pain and infections. how many people are here? these people are about to freak out. lets get everyone against the wall, hands up. we're going to need a system to get this done properly. one person gets whipped, he whips the next man, he whips the one after. that seems morally and ethically sound. who will be the first to get whipped? who will be the first to wield? what sort of leader do I want to be? their fear? or their debt? i'll be dealt first. then i get to whip two. lets make mine a spectacle. lets test empathy. _ this needs to be made efficient. groups. groups of 4. that's enough intimacy and distance. and the ordeal will forge bonds. they'll be regiments. for when I hunt this bitch down. i should spread my friends out to seed loyalty. *i divide everybody into groups of 4, each group elects its captain; the person who whips first. take out the weakest and most empathetic and form a nurse group of people who go around cleaning wounds (w. hot water); their empathy should fill some fluid and by the end, they'll be desensitized to the fear of pain | same thing, just a lot of chaos and error first. | ||||||||||||||||||
75 | 3/2/2014 11:14:56 | neurotypical | Yes | I would go to a Dr if possible, or if not, find the least painful form of suicide, I expect. | I think a sociopath would try and fail to produce the brain fluid. The thing about sociopaths in my experience is that they have a low fear response - they will talk about the pain they are willing to endure for hours, and not be scared of it. That doesn't mean that they aren't averse to it when it actually happens. A sociopath would happily perform the necessary tasks to cause pain, but then quit when the pain started, I think. | ||||||||||||||||||
76 | 3/14/2014 20:19:07 | Neurotypical | No | I would feel amused at the thought of such a planned out sadistic game, and could only imagine how the host/hostess felt while watching the "contestants" scramble and eventually hurt to win. I would most likely kill someone painfully to see what would happen, and if the person running the show would react. I would also find ways to escape. Then perhaps I would resort to lastly follow the rules and exert pain upon myslelf by using methods that would not leave a mark like electric shock and such. | For a sociopath I think they would most likely analyze the situation and become everyone's ally. Perhaps then they would convince others to help them become hurt or vice versa to gain trust. In some circumstances though they could find the owner of the sadistic game and tip the scale to their advantage. | ||||||||||||||||||
77 | 3/22/2014 9:50:13 | No | No | I would feel horrified at the inhumanity of this claim, of course, but skeptical too (how outlandish is a "vial implanted in the base of the skull" scenario, anyway!). Given this inherent implausibility, I would be hopeful that there would be some means of escaping this environment to get outside "help"...This hope would be corroborated by the fact that the woman, after all, is onscreen only, and that this scenario does not specify whether there are any physical impediments to escape. I would thus focus on escape, and would be willing to die trying. I would try to persuade the others to also resist, on the basis of my reasoning as stated above, but also on the basis of our common humanity and friendship. There is no way that I would consider inflicting pain on anyone involved, based on the threats as laid out, except to try to escape this situation. In other words, I would act in self-defense if someone tried to attack me to "get pain-induced brain fluid" or tried to prevent me from escaping. | Gullible people might believe this scenario as laid out, I suppose, and may then act according to what they see as either their ultimate self interests (to avoid death by collecting the required amount of brain fluid within 22 hours) or according to the ultimate self-interests of the group (everyone submits a bit of pain-induced brain fluid to collect enough aggregate to ensure the quota is reached, then everyone survives). Again, I can't fathom being in this position in the first place - rationality argues against it! However, I can say that, even if I were exposed to what I was convinced was a bona fide threat that required me to act in an egregious way towards another, I wouldn't be able to do it because, almost 100% of the time, it is morally wrong to knowingly inflict pain on other people (don't get me started on the human-animal morality question, though: As a meat-eater, I see the inherent inconsistencies!). I guess, ultimately, I would actively "opt out" of this brutal and inhumane scenario because it was a) the morally right thing to do as I define morality b) the only way that I would be able to live with myself psychologically afterwards should I successfully escape. In short, my conscience would require me to act contrary to the defined parameters of these brutal demands. Most people with consciences - and this is most people - will understand exactly what I mean. Those who profess to not have consciences - and I will have to take your word for it - will laugh at me, I suppose. I pray that I will continue to be able to recognize those in my life whose actions and intentions toward me and my loved ones are essentially cold-hearted and self-serving, and that I will be able to remove myself and my loved ones from their toxic reach consistently, before real damage can be done. It's usually pretty easy to tell when someone is morally "off" - there's a plethora of verbal and non-verbal mannerisms and signs...My hackles - my emotional radar -just get raised and, if I analyse the interactions over time, I'll usually be able to see a pattern of toxic behaviours that scream "Danger! Avoid!" And I have learned to listen well! | ||||||||||||||||||
78 | 3/22/2014 9:53:17 | No | No | I would feel horrified at the inhumanity of this claim, of course, but skeptical too (how outlandish is a "vial implanted in the base of the skull" scenario, anyway!). Given this inherent implausibility, I would be hopeful that there would be some means of escaping this environment to get outside "help"...This hope would be corroborated by the fact that the woman, after all, is onscreen only, and that this scenario does not specify whether there are any physical impediments to escape. I would thus focus on escape, and would be willing to die trying. I would try to persuade the others to also resist, on the basis of my reasoning as stated above, but also on the basis of our common humanity and friendship. There is no way that I would consider inflicting pain on anyone involved, based on the threats as laid out, except to try to escape this situation. In other words, I would act in self-defense if someone tried to attack me to "get pain-induced brain fluid" or tried to prevent me from escaping. | Gullible people might believe this scenario as laid out, I suppose, and may then act according to what they see as either their ultimate self interests (to avoid death by collecting the required amount of brain fluid within 22 hours) or according to the ultimate self-interests of the group (everyone submits a bit of pain-induced brain fluid to collect enough aggregate to ensure the quota is reached, then everyone survives). Again, I can't fathom being in this position in the first place - rationality argues against it! However, I can say that, even if I were exposed to what I was convinced was a bona fide threat that required me to act in an egregious way towards another, I wouldn't be able to do it because, almost 100% of the time, it is morally wrong to knowingly inflict pain on other people (don't get me started on the human-animal morality question, though: As a meat-eater, I see the inherent inconsistencies!). I guess, ultimately, I would actively "opt out" of this brutal and inhumane scenario because it was a) the morally right thing to do as I define morality b) the only way that I would be able to live with myself psychologically afterwards should I successfully escape. In short, my conscience would require me to act contrary to the defined parameters of these brutal demands. Most people with consciences - and this is most people - will understand exactly what I mean. Those who profess to not have consciences - and I will have to take your word for it - will laugh at me, I suppose. I pray that I will continue to be able to recognize those in my life whose actions and intentions toward me and my loved ones are essentially cold-hearted and self-serving, and that I will be able to remove myself and my loved ones from their toxic reach consistently, before real damage can be done. It's usually pretty easy to tell when someone is morally "off" - there's a plethora of verbal and non-verbal mannerisms and signs...My hackles - my emotional radar -just get raised and, if I analyse the interactions over time, I'll usually be able to see a pattern of toxic behaviours that scream "Danger! Avoid!" And I have learned to listen well! | ||||||||||||||||||
79 | 4/1/2014 17:46:39 | Not sure | No | First, I'd focus on filling my my own vial. Other people might mess up, or be too afraid. If I had time left, I'd help as many people as possible, especially those unable to cope with their own fear to the point that they'd actually put their minds to getting out of the situation alive. | They would attept to rationalize it. They would cry in fear and break from the stress. They wouldn't act. They would feel, trying to muster up the courage to get out of the situation. They would panic, only eating away the precious time they have. | ||||||||||||||||||
80 | 4/25/2014 2:37:39 | possibly socio | no | I would make use of all heated objects; because they would produce intense pain, thus getting the whole thing over with faster. | I doubt I could depend on my opposites, because they'd waste too much time freaking out over temporary pain, rather than focusing on the bigger picture. | ||||||||||||||||||
81 | 4/28/2014 17:41:40 | Possibly Sociopathic or Borderline | No | (lets just assume that the lady is telling the truth) I would be scared, but mostly angry. Then I would get the job done, probably by hurting things that inturn hurt myself, eventually that would burn off steam and help me think more logically. If it was my friends, or people that I care (used loosely) about then I, assuming that they couldn't get it done themselves, help them, possibly against their own will. I'm assuming that the would not comply because 'empaths' as you call them can be irrational. | They would cry and scream, wet their pants (not to say that I wouldn't do that at first) that would fill their tube at least a quarter from emotional pain if it counts, then try to fill it and fail. | ||||||||||||||||||
82 | 4/28/2014 18:57:10 | Most likely Borderline or Sociopathic | No | At first I would be enraged, maybe even try to hurt the woman, but then try and calm myself down, and look at the most efficient way to A. give/receive pain B. sustain little to no injury C. make sure that no one goes balistic D. get the most people out alive I would probably start alone, trying to fill as much of my vile as possible and finding something that would cause pain and sustain it with as little effort as possible (like sanitising a thumb tack, sticking it in your arm and leaving it). I would have two plans, one involving control, which would be to put the logical ones to carefully torcher the ones who can't help themselves and make sure to monitor for unnecessary enjoyment, and without control I would simply pit the sociopaths against empaths making sure that the socios are informed that its to help the empaths. | they would be upset and probably cry and do nothing to help it, even if they did, would probably to squeamish to do anything substantial. | ||||||||||||||||||
83 | 4/28/2014 18:57:20 | Most likely Borderline or Sociopathic | No | At first I would be enraged, maybe even try to hurt the woman, but then try and calm myself down, and look at the most efficient way to A. give/receive pain B. sustain little to no injury C. make sure that no one goes balistic D. get the most people out alive I would probably start alone, trying to fill as much of my vile as possible and finding something that would cause pain and sustain it with as little effort as possible (like sanitising a thumb tack, sticking it in your arm and leaving it). I would have two plans, one involving control, which would be to put the logical ones to carefully torcher the ones who can't help themselves and make sure to monitor for unnecessary enjoyment, and without control I would simply pit the sociopaths against empaths making sure that the socios are informed that its to help the empaths. | they would be upset and probably cry and do nothing to help it, even if they did, would probably to squeamish to do anything substantial. | ||||||||||||||||||
84 | 5/16/2014 15:06:26 | Neurotypical | No | I would look for some substance to render me unconscious, and then ask someone I trusted in the group to attempt to break bones in my legs without killing me or giving me permanent damage. I would hope that the extreme pain would not have to be experienced by my conscious mind in order to have the effect of filling the vials. | I consider myself more of an empath. As such, I'd hope they'd go along with my plan, and we could take turns sedating each other and then breaking bones. | ||||||||||||||||||
85 | 8/3/2014 7:34:47 | Sociopath | No | I would say screw this shit. No way to be sure the women was telling the truth anyway. I would try, and probably succeed in getting the group to follow my lead on this. Pointing out that any and all info on how to safely remove the vial would be with the woman anyway. Use the stuff to cobble up a weapon and hunt the feed back to the source. Then get my vials worth of pain juice out of HER. | I think the empaths would have some panic time and but understand that since it would take a completely warped person to invent this "experiment" in the first place that trusting them on the outcome was a fools game. | ||||||||||||||||||
86 | 9/10/2014 14:47:57 | sociopath | no | I would hurt myself till the thing was full, and hurt others if they wanted me to. | They would do nothing cuz they're wimps. | ||||||||||||||||||
87 | 10/14/2014 17:23:26 | Unsure | No | First, I would have a discussion with the group to determine who knew the best ways of eliciting severe pain without creating lasting physical damage. We would then agree on order and rotations of who would do what when. If certain group members seemed uncomfortable inflicting pain on others, I would volunteer to take their designated turn instead, provided that I have the adequate physical stamina to do so. When each member's turn came to have pain inflicted upon them, they would be tied up and a predetermined person would inflict pain on them until their vial was filled, or until they risked lasting physical damage. The option to opt-out of this system would be provided if someone wished to simply self-inflict pain, or wished to forego the process entirely. | I do not know. | ||||||||||||||||||
88 | 11/7/2014 16:27:22 | Neurotypical | No | Would feel pretty bad, afraid and scared for existence, after that two possible actions occur: a) pass out/lose ability to think logically b) start using pliers on areas near sensitive skin (fingertips, nose, etc) in order to cause maximum pain. | A sociopath would probably set up a pain rota/schedule that would allow others to restrain and cause pain to other victims, this way the pain can be inflicted without worry about being too afraid to continue. | ||||||||||||||||||
89 | 11/16/2014 16:12:19 | Aspberger's | yes | I would look at it logically. In this situation, we have a lot of variables. Fear. Each person's personal pain tolerance. Time- can so-and-so person stand it long enough to fill his share? Can I? Or do we need breaks? Is there going to be some idiot who tries taking pain meds? Is there some other way to produce these fluids? (E.g., pain stimulus causes the brain to produce endorphins. So does getting tickled.). The most logical plan would be to split up into groups, preferably of two or three. That way everyone has a "buddy" to inflict the necessary amount of pain and to tend to any emergency needs which may arise. Our biggest problem is not, as one might think, the killer hitchhiker; nor is it the pain. Our biggest problem is that fear turns people into idiots. Here I have a small advantage, because fear for me does not muddle my reason. So, what I do from here: Assume control, obviously (unless there is someone who's ability to remain not-an-idiot under stress is better than mine; in this case I will gladly defer, considering I dislike talking in front of strangers). To do this, I wait for the first dumb thing (e.g.) someone tries to rip the tube out and kills themselves). This will rocket up the fear level, but if I tray to assert myself before this, likely no one will pay attention. So, at this point some start to become hysterical. I let this go for approximately three to five seconds, then I yell very loudly for everyone to shut the fuck up. (Pardon the expletive, but it is the phrase of choice in this situation. People in panic need a snap-out-of-it, and vulgarity always carries shock value, even if it's only a little). At this point , if I've played it right, everyone shuts the fuck up. Yes they're scared, but now they have a leader. It's vital to remember is cases like this, the sheep-shepherd-wolf relationship, wherein most people are followers, some are takers, and some are leaders. In order to lead properly, I have to know my flock. This is the time to begin profiling the others in the room. Ex. The guy looking in all different directions- depending on speed and interval, he could be panicking, a dissenter who I will have to put in his place later, or intelligent and assessing the situation, in which case he is my greatest asset, and I will direct him into whichever part of the house is farthest from me to make sure and keep as much order as possible. Now I tell everyone to split into small groups, to remain calm, and to try and be fast, efficient, and not cause any lasting damage. If I happen to be traveling with a lover(s), I knock them out and declare them off-limits, and make it very clear that anyone who dares to touch them will be made very unhappy at my hands. To make up for the deficit (as well as to dissuade resentment which could potentially make my lover(s) a target, I accept their share of the pain quota. Unpleasant, but by far the lesser of two evils. At this point I have to prepare for pain. Everybody does this in their own way, and mine is to do nothing. Being afraid of it is useless, so I'm not. Additionally, keeping my energy level low will allow me to better deal with the pain- letting my endocrine system do its thing while I block it out. It's never any use trying to fight pain- denial makes things worse. If I accept it as pain, I can keep my head until it passes. Now, unless my partner us someone I trust very, very much, I don't let other people hurt me. Considering anyone I'm that close to is now unconscious and safe, I will inflict my own pain. This also spares my partner some guilt, and frees them up to hurt themselves if they can, thereby expediting the process. Of course other problems may arise. Someone may pass out before their quota arrives, in which case their fluid production may decrease or even become non-functional. In this case we split the difference. Someone may "lose it" and go postal or start wrecking things. That one needs to be knocked out, and restrained. We split the difference here too, unless he wakes up in time. The key here is to view it like a system. I have empathy, but my Aspberger's means I experience it through a filter (unless it's an animal. I love animals.). This allows me to, in a situation like this, detach and view the situation objectively, and manipulate people as the situation requires without feeling bad about it. In this case, it's for everyone's own good. (Additionally, should the need arise, it would allow me to hurt someone whose partner couldn't do it.) It would also be important to keep an eye on people, since it would be possible for an overseer of this operation to be in there with us. Also, the person/people who set his up aren't going to let us leave, so I need to figure out, as best I can with not a lot of information, the possible scenarios there, and how best to handle each one. By remaining consistent, and gentle but also firm, I will encourage the rest of the group to work as a team. That way we can better handle what situations may arise. | An empath may become overwhelmed by emotions, especially fear or guilt. A sociopath would be likely to keep his head, unless there is an anxiety issue present, but he may be more likely to go too far or get angry depending on individual personality and impulse/agression specificities. (This last would apply to an empath as well.) Assuming good self-control, his role would depend on his preference to sit back and watch or take control. (He might, in fact, be my "greatest asset" example, or the "shepherd" of this particular flock.) (I suppose I am by definition an empath, but I here address empaths separately from myself because I believe my handling of this situation is atypical of empathic personality types.) | ||||||||||||||||||
90 | 12/1/2014 17:59:43 | Socio | Avoided so far | I'll answer based on the assumptions the situation is genuine and can't be outsmarted or avoided if I want to survive. I interpret it to mean that all vials need to be filled, ie we all survive or nobody does (I haven't seen the movie) Firstly it would be important not to stand out - if I was overly calm I might be suspected of being involved. I'd start by acting angry and stressed, then rapidly come around to leading the group to the correct solution. Suggesting an inventory of the house would give people an immediate goal and calm them. Asking about the backgrounds of the people I didn't know (is there a doctor?, do they have families? what was the last thing they remember?) would help with information to manipulate them and inventory the skill set. The correct solution must maximise pain while minimising permanent physical harm. I would not appreciate scars. Perhaps some kind of electroshock - it can be agony but is unlikely to permanently disable. Obviously everyone would need to be "persuaded" to undergo the torture, this shouldn't be a problem once the majority accepted my leadership. I'd prefer to go first, this solidifies control and gives me maximum time to recover in case something else happens when 22hrs expires. If only my own vial needed to be filled to ensure personal survival then I'd separate myself from the group, fill my vial and leave them to do whatever they wanted. Securing a weapon would be important and I would consider allies if they were immediately obedient. Since it's all probably monitored/recorded I would be unlikely to indulge in maiming or killing others. | Panic, formation of small groups, followed by a mix of avoidance and various levels of compliance. Mostly avoidance I expect. | ||||||||||||||||||
91 | 12/28/2014 18:07:16 | neurotypical (to the best of my knowledge) | no | I would first embrace and wish my friends good luck, let them know I love them and that I respect their decision to deal with the situation as they wish. I, however, don't have the stones to save them through torture and cannot ask that of them to save my life. Next, I would select a few tools and retreat to the most remote room in the house to fight for my own survival. I have a relatively high tolerance for pain so perhaps I would make it. I have a regular meditation practice and often consider my own death -it brings me a rare kind of joy. I've always thought I want to be conscious for my death and maybe dread and joy and uncertainty would co-mingle. I realize I may sound like a sociopath but I think the fact that I could not inflict pain is telling. One caveat to this scenario... if my friend, X, who is a sociopath were present, I could inflict pain to save him and ask him to inflict pain to save me but only with X because I trust that the experience would not ruin him. See...? Empathy. Probably worth noting, I'm a loner/introvert, I want to experience the best and the worst alone, my death and suffering to myself. | I think that my friend, X, a sociopath, would be willing to inflict pain to save me and suffer pain, inflicted by me, to save himself. He'd also be incredibly curious about the whole situation, the stakes... the sensations... the group dynamic... loss of civilized veneer. I'm lucky, I'm an neurotypical/empath who's respected by sociopaths, they befriend me and I receive all the benefits of their gifts without being the subject of their games. Actually, I'd like to know what your readers have to say about their valued and protected relationships. I know X sees me as a "resource" but at the same time he holds me at a position above most other people. To be honest, it feels like one the most truthful, transparent friendships I have. An aware and "out" sociopath is rational and makes a great friend, the other "normal" people scare the shit out of me. | ||||||||||||||||||
92 | 2/22/2015 23:33:29 | Neurotypical | No | I would feel horrified at the thought of having to torture my friends to survive and being tortured myself, and enraged at the evil of the woman. I would try to find her and kill her with one of the household tools or by throwing her into the vat of boiling water before killing myself. | I think a sociopath would most likely obey the woman and torture their friends to save their own skins. | ||||||||||||||||||
93 | 2/23/2015 22:37:01 | sociopath | no | i would first assess the people i had been placed with in terms of fear, rationality, threats, morality ect; all of the necessary aspects to assess the threat to myself in both physically and emotionally (though the emotional trauma assessment is almost useless, i could not foresee myself falling for an emotional based pain stimuli, especially in a situation such as the one described where cold logic is the most efficient means of finding a solution.) after which i would decide upon the most efficient means of releasing the brain fluid through either emotional or physical pain. to do this would rely heavily upon manipulation of the group through fear, playing on their own thoughts to make it appear as though they decided that whatever method id determined as effective was actually their own idea and therefore camouflage myself as the observer until action is needed. for example a mother might be worried about her children, id use that to build on her fear as much as possible to asses the effectiveness of emotional pain/trauma. on a physical level it would be the obvious choice to work together to cause trauma on each other, therefore eliminating the body's evasive response to pain and allowing one to reach the highest points of pain and the highest release of fluids; for this burning would be exceptional for the continual pain factor, whereas a blades cut is too fine for the same kind of response, it causes more damage than pain. however for some empaths the emotional pain would be the better option. alternately, if a threat were to be present, for example a sadist or someone who is intent on torture to steal the fluids the plan would change dramatically. firstly, id have noticed the potential of the person through my initial observations and continued to asses them, if their method made them an outsider i see no logical reason not to allow their method to reach its apex, kill the instigator and take his victims fluid vial through any and all means the, the most efficient being to silently murder them, or in such a way where the element of surprise would result in a killing opportunity weighed in my favor (survivalist) . if silent ambush tactics were not viable again the concept of burning springs to mind as an alternate tactic, to burn their face and use the shock and surprise them and bind them to do with as i deemed fit. if need be one could use a knife to pierce the stomach, intestines and other organs by stabbing above the hip but below the ribs and twisting the blade to tangle the intestines, with a downward diagonal movement. this is almost the most painful and slowest way to die with a knife, and bound to fill the vial more than another method, slow death is efficient in this scenario, and the "moralistic" aspects of murder are made redundant if the person was breaking the acceptable codes by conducting torture. this would all depend on the flow of the mob though, if we were to break apart into factions i could foresee bloodshed, in which case i would use lone wolf tactics, most likely that of abduction and torture. i will not die when there is an option to survival, i do not care if that seems immoral, if i am stronger i deserve to win in those regards. cooperation is the most efficient and ethical method, and would be my first choice, after that aggression. lone wolf blood lust. | they would most likely cooperate or attempt to find a way out of the situation. some would try the aggressive sadism, though if that arose i would take advantage of it. but honestly i dont know, it would depend on the emotional states of many and the pragmatism of others, fear and the need to survival are the only things that are not variables. and survival then the methods are very broad | ||||||||||||||||||
94 | 5/28/2015 15:12:31 | Sociopath | Yes | Assuming there are no other ways out of this and considering I'm a bit of a masochist, I would come to terms with the hopelessness of the situation and embrace the challenge. I would first make sure I've filled my own vial (I know what hurts me more than anyone else). Then, I would give ample time for the rest of the group to fill their own vials. However, if I notice that they are not on course to meet the deadline, I will have to take matters into my own hands. Did I forget to mention that I'm also a bit of a sadist? I am not paying for others' weakness. | I really couldn't imagine somewhat like that in the above situation but I'm tickled at the thought. | ||||||||||||||||||
95 | 9/18/2015 9:32:28 | No | NO | Kill myself. | A think a sociopath would try to sort it out selfishly. | ||||||||||||||||||
96 | 4/5/2016 6:47:05 | Sociopath | No | I would help them inflict pain on themselves in order to fill the vials with the specific amount of brain fluid. This is under the assumption that this tactic would free them. If not, I would simply pull the vials from their skulls. | The empath would do nothing because they don't have the willingness to do what is necessary. | ||||||||||||||||||
97 | 4/17/2016 23:54:38 | neurotypical | no | I would get anxious about the pain, but I would help hurt others as long as they hurt me back. I would, however, consider pulling out the vials then and there. I'd also set a limit to what can be used to hurt me. | I think they'd just do it. Maybe help others to make "friends". | ||||||||||||||||||
98 | 6/3/2016 10:30:09 | bipolar/ anxiety disorder | Yes. I have anxiety disorder with symptoms of being bipolar | I'd probably cut in places that aren't fatal on other people...And ask someone else to do the same for me. If they weren't cooperative, I would attempt to persuade them but ultimately I would not force them. I imagine that I'm one of a few emotional people who wouldn't have to be coerced but I have thought of cutting and this would allow me too-- without feeling guilty about it because it's for a legit cause and not suicidal purposes. I could be thinking this way though because I just read the responses (lol). I didn't click on the link until after I looked at the pie chart/wheel with results and then read through analysis. Hope this helps!! | I think a sociopath would be very logical. I think a few would get off on the control-- even if they're also being controlled-- because most likely in this setting neurotypical people would start to lose their minds (and don't even count me....*shudders*). I think a few would also get off on the blood-- if there was (I'm guessing a few such as myself wold choose something that involves blood) | ||||||||||||||||||
99 | 5/15/2017 23:18:11 | Neurotypical | no | Everyone gets their fair share of pain. Plain and simple. | Depends on the degree of sociopathy and that particular sociopath. I would assume not every sociopath handles life and death situations the same way. | ||||||||||||||||||
100 | 6/7/2017 11:51:08 | Sociopath | No | Hide | Lead the group in their group suffering |