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Raikou11SSThis is still the best mon in the tier to me, I think its evened out quite nicely where its clearly the top threat but isn't TOO broken. Scope Lens sets still lose some matchups, and when you sacrifice speed for bulk matchups change. Toxic Raikou is still goodSSSProbably S since Zapdos is gone, best Electric type in the tier, super fast, just great overallSFast. Cm petaya destroys everything on the special attacking sideSBest mon in the tier imo. Scope lens Sraikou
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Sceptile8.714285714A+AI think Sceptile is worse now but its not a bad mon. Leech Seed Protect Sub still beats a wide variety of Pokemon, and you can customize it so nicely. I think Band is an actual good set. Positive Tauros and Raikou matchup is also VERY welcome!S-S-A step above the A+ mons, but not as metagame-defining as Raikou. SubSeed beats a lot thanks to Sceptile's amazing speed and access to stoss, while Petaya and Band are options for different matchupsA-Fell off hard but is still alrightS-A+Arguably sA-dropped off
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Blissey8.285714286AAYeah yeah yeah scope lens Raikou boohoo. I like Scope Lens on Blissey to help that matchup and break through opposing Blissey. 20% serene grace ice beam freeze on a mon that lives as long as Blissey is and always will be absurd. A+AA+Extremely bulky, 20% freeze, great movepoolAKinda overrated but still versatile ATbolt is a real set @dimitrykabalevsky#3410 Avery good. could b a+. better than hera and maro but worse than tauros
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Heracross8.571428571A+AI believe this thing could very well be A+, but I need to see more from it in the metagame. Its surprisingly awkward vs Tauros, and having to hit megahorns realllly sucks. A+A+A+It has some amazing tools with both of it's abilities, amazing power, good bulk and speed, and unique and good offensive typing, but it can struggle a little bit with said typing. It is a bug type that can struggle with Psychics, and it can drop to random HP Flying coverage. I like running bulk on it for some of those weaknesses, and Salac Berry also helps, but those weaknesses hold it back from domination. Also HP Bug is the wave.A+GOATEDAIdk why but I don't like this mon very muchAnice just hit megahorn
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Marowak8.714285714A+A+This mon is so good because its so consistent into Raikou and is favored vs Tauros. It eats hits and hits hard what else is there to say?A+A+AA+A+Cheesable Atechable
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Salamence8.857142857A+A+.The ever consistent Salamence. The new SpDef DD revelation is neat over Dragonite, mixed mence is still very cool, and I'm a huge fan of max speed band mence. A+AS-I feel like this guy is not quite on the level of Tauros but its close enough to be S- imo. It just has so much versatility and is solid in every role it wants to play.A+Extremely versatile,A+Holy hellAcould be A+. better than hera and maro but idk if its on tauros level
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Alakazam7A-A-This mon is really fun. again its key that it outpaces the two best mons in the tier Raikou and Tauros, often beating them. fast encore is awesome, and I think Twave is cool!A+AB+Its kind of just too physically frail. Things have gotten bulkier and bulkier and your petaya user needs to be able to tank a hit, attack, and then sub down to Petaya to get another attack in, and Alakazam just can't do that reliably.AVery frail but it's extremely proficient for what it doesB+Really annoying to beat in building B
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Celebi6.714285714A-B+The only reason this mon has fallen to me is it feels sooo stretched to do many things. I believe it can clearly be A-, but I want to see it used more and teched more, versatility through the roof! And people are running hp bug less nowadays it seems.A+B+B+This mon is hyper underrated. It of course has base 100 stats all around, leading to it being much much bulkier than Sceptile. Many things have teched for Sceptile with certain moves, like CB Metagross Sludge Bomb, leading it to have to run insane amounts of bulk and less speed, and Celebi can still be pretty fast while bulking those hits. Of course, HP Bug can do a number but often it can still tank it and win. Sub, Protect, Leech Seed, and Psychic is definitely my preferred set, and while it cannot being certain things like Regice and Registeel, it can beat a lot of things that Sceptile couldn't dream of beating, like non HP Bug Metagross (though it can still bulk it somewhat decently), Heracross, and Machamp. EDIT: This all is still true, but Leech Seed as a whole has fallen off a bit. I do still think Celebi is a bit underrated, as it can still do a lot of things outside of SubSeedAAnnoying to fight against due to its base 100 speed tier and good bulkB+B+
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Kingdra7.285714286A-B+This mon is B+ to me now because Vaporeon does a LOT of what this mon wants to do defensively, perhaps its less crit prone but hydro miss is so ass and Zapdos isn't in the tier anymore. DD mixups are still relevant and cool though.AA+I severely underestimated this mon in the past. It beats or 50/50s so many mons with rain dance petaya and it can lure special walls with DDA-Even after missing 6/7 Hydro Pumps, I still think this mon is really good. Rain and Petaya boosted Water STAB is no joke, along with great bulk and a great defensive typing. It can also mix things up on the physical side and can make good use of Hidden PowerAB+unviable?????A-I like the dd set
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Metagross8.142857143AAIts speed really hurts it from being A+. I like that people have been using more endure salac Metagross. Band Metagross is still VERY good. AAA+Just hits sooo hard and has some nice options with its movepool, especially on the special side. Sub is also amazingA
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Registeel7.142857143A-A-Premier stall mon, gen3 crits suck and is why i can't put this higher than A- right now. AAA-While it can wall a lot of the metagame with its standard set, the metagame has adapted and has learned to deal with it. Seismic toss Sceptile being spammed definitely doesn't help it, alongside things like Fightings growing in popularity. It is how Registeel always is, good but exploitable.A-Extremely overrated B+This thing fell off since things like raikou started running scope lens, which could make band better igA-starting to like this a bit less
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Swampert7A-A-I think its understandable why this mon has gone down a bit, but I still really like its curse set up versatility and mixed sets. I think Counter and Mirror Coat could be experimented with more. AAA-Super versatile, great typing, good all around stats, its super good. Spdef Band is my personal favorite set but Curse is amazing and it can run some other cool sets like Salac. Great mon.A-B+This is an L moB+
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Tauros9.285714286A+SLets not play around and act like this isn't anything but S. The introduction of Toxic Sub Protect Tauros has been devastating to the metagame, the mixup it has with band is very Zapdos esque, sets will have to get more creative to beat that mon, especially factoring in leftovers recovery and intimidateAA+S-Honestly, I'm getting on the Tauros train, this mon is ridiculous. Even just between Toxic sets and CB sets, it just beats most of the metaAS-So annoying during building A+2nd best mon in the tier
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Vaporeon8.714285714A+S-This is the 3rd best Pokemon in the tier to me. It's the premier defensive water and without a 4x weakness and access to 64 pp Acid Armor, its surprisingly hard to tech. Acid Armor is so anti BS, and playing around with its speed and SpA has become the normAA+AAA+Does not outclass kingdraA+i think its between this, mence, and maybe blissey for whatever comes right after tauros
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Gyarados6.142857143B+BDD is cool, pretty linear but maybe mixed band could see some fun usage soonA-A-B-Outside of Taunt this is just a worse Salamence most of the time, and even Taunt is kind of mediocre. To be fair this might be too low for Gyara but in old gens I am often a Gyara haterA-A-PotatochungusB+
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Moltres6.285714286B+BMaybe I am out of the loop but I struggle on why to use Moltres over other fires like Zard, Entei, Arcanine.A-B+B+A-The second best fire typeA-Very good and teachable mon 👍B+
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Regice6.857142857A-BI like Regice, but dislike its Raikou matchup now and I find myself wishing it was Blissey. also fires ICKA-A-AI was wrong about Zapdos leaving hurting this thing, it beats so much. I really like Psych UpA-A-Comes up a lot during buildingA-very solid mon
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Starmie6.428571429B+B+Nobody is using this guy anymore. It's still fast and strong and its coverage is immense in a tier lacking choice scarf!A-A-BWhile its weaker than Alakazam, it does have significantly better bulk and an arguably better typing, I can see this going up a bit in the future.AStill proficient for what it doesB+Used to be much betterB+
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TyranitarB+If we had VR update before Toxic Tauros this guy would be B rank, but I really like curse rest Tyranitar as a surefire answer to Tauros, Fire's, and pretty damn good into Raikou. It also has absurd tech potential but high downsideA-A-A-Tyranitar has so many great tools, between Sand Stream to beat many Presure Stallers, Dragon Dance, Taunt, and it's great offensive movepool and great stats, but it is held back by it's typing. A-This mon is not itB+its like ok ig
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Ursaring5.857142857B+BAgain who is using this. I find it hard to slot on teams and people always like EVing for it or sneaking in Substitute on mons. A-B+BA-Extremely underrated BHits extremely hard and has the bulk to do it well B+hits hard and takes hits back
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Arcanine7.285714286A-A-This mon is awesome, I could see it even raising to A. Best fire type in the tier being a mence beater. Its 4th and 3rd move slots are surprisingly versatile, able to run hp electric or grass or toxic or agility etc. Intimidate and White Herb Overheat baby!B+A-AVery unique with Intimidate and Espeed, I also like Charm and HP Fighting to cheese Marowak and TTar though I would say HP Ice is the best set, super cool monA-The beat fire type imoAThe best fire dog in this gen for sureAhonestly you can do a lot with random hidden powers outside the already very good standard herb hp ice
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Charizard5.285714286BBNobody uses this guy anymore but its still fast and punishing. Better into Marowak again now that people aren't scared of it and aren't using insane Spdef. DD is cool into Sceptile matchup shenanigansB+A-BIt has that amazing base 100 speed stat, decent ability to tech certain things, and of course, its amazing power between Blaze, Petaya Berry, and STAB Blast Burn, though it can be exploited by things like Endure and Amnesia, and it can struggle with top tiers like Raikou and Salamence. It is still an amazing mon tho.B+There are better fire typesB-zard in the bug 25 🥀B-
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Entei5.142857143BBReally cool Pokemon, i love that it poops on Blissey and stalls out a lot of things. Sunny Day Solarbeam is still cool!B+B+B-Arcanine is better outside of Calm Mind, which can do some cool stuff like Sunny Beam for Vaporeon but yeah uhhB+BFire type that beats registeel!B-
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Hariyama5.142857143BB-I get that its a fighting type that beats fires but I feel like it loses many matchups Hera wins. I could see this raising again though. B+BB+This mon is so so so SO good, I love it a lot. It has so much over Machamp, the only thing its missing is Encore and a little speed, and while those can be gamechanging, and Machamp is still a great mon, Hariyama's immense bulk, 2 great abilities, and unique movepool with tools such as Arm Thrust and Belly Drum allow it to do so much. Depending on the set it can beat so much, including but definitely not limited to: Registeel, Sceptile, Raikou, Tyranitar, Regice, Blissey, Charizard, Tauros, and Ursaring. It can do so much with it's bulk, and can fit on many teams. Highly recommend itB+BB-
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Jirachi6B+BVersatile as hell, but again maybe more on paper than in practice, I want to see more resultsB+BA-Pretty solid, while Metagross share's it's amazing typing, Jirachi has Calm Mind and some amazing special coverage, and it has some amazing stats, including the amazing base 100 speed statBA-Jimmy NeutronA-
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Ludicolo5.714285714B+BI hate that phys def Ludicolo loses to Vaporeon most of the time, but still a versatile threat and the new addition of Focus Punch Synthesis is fun.B+B+A-Pretty bulky, very unique typing, and access to Seismic Toss, Leech Seed and Counter alongside Water STAB is super niceB+BWater grass is a really nice typingB
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Machamp5.714285714B+B-Okay it has Encore wowB+B+B+Encore is super good, and it is pretty bulky and strong. I personally prefer Hariyama a lot of the time but Machamp fits on many teams nonetheless and preforms well.B+B+B+encore
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Walrein5.142857143BB-Want to look more into its matchups but im like why use this over Vape, Kingdra, Regice, etc. B+B+BEven with just one set, Walrein can beat so much of the metagame. With a fast set, it can handle many of the established top tiers, such as Sceptile, Alakazam, Marowak, and Salamence, while being able to also deal with some Swamperts and Ttars, among other things. This mon is honestly insane, Encore and speed control alongside great bulk, a decent defensive typing, and Thick Fat is just insane. Also it doesn't need to run bulk for Zapdos now yayBBAnti bliss is bad B
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Aerodactyl4.714285714BB-Rock Slide flinch is good. I wonder if pressure stuff has more potential BB-BYes it can struggle with power, but its speed is super nice and it can still do some good damage, and of course the 30% rock slide flinch can save you often. Also look into Pressure, its actually very solid with it's speed.BRemember when this guy was A tierBIt is bad but it is there and beats some teams B
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Armaldo5BB-Idk why I am using this post Zapdos but its ability is awesomeBBBHas amazing top tier matchups, has battle armor which is always nice, good stats and movepool, I just wish Rock Blast hit for onceB+Can beat top tier pretty consistent BRopB
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Blaziken4.285714286B-C+This mon is bad but its potential versatility carries it. B-B-BHits super hard from both sides of the spectrum. It can nuke with Reversal or Blaze boosted Overheat, which is only 10 BP less than Blast Burn without being cheesed by Endure. It also gets both Bulk Up and Swords Dance to boost past things. B+Y'all are sleeping on kin. Mixed sets can really beat a lot of monsB-B-
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Gengar4.285714286B-BEveryone sleeping on this thing. It demolishes Tauros, and Taunt Counter is VERY cool right now. I like its matchup into a lot of top tiersB-B-B-It can feel a little weak at times but it is just so versatile and unique with its Ghost typing, Levitate, decent all around stats, and good coverageBIt's okayB-NoB-
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Regirock5.285714286BB+Very similar to TyranitarBBB+It has some insane bulk with great tools like CounterCurse and QuakeSlide, the main problem I have with it is it's power, but besides that it is a great monBBLosing to special mence is fineB
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Scizor4.428571429B-BStays B rank because Tauros relevanceB-B-B-B+Most underrated Pokémon of ADV 1v1.B-Gets sniped by random hidden power and thunder raikouB-
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Venusaur6.142857143B+B+This is the mon I feel most out of touch with, but its results have been really nice recently. Worthy of a small raise.BB+AA little skeptical but it is nice into the meta, and unlike Sceptile its actually able to nuke things with Petaya OvergrowBB+A-like it a lot, good into the meta but still wary since its only a more recent development ig
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Blastoise2.142857143CC-Yeah idk why im using this over other waters but maybe its got somethinB-B-URI prefer something like Walrein or Swampert nowadays, because while they don't have the sheer power, they make up for it with their good bulk and unique tools. Not a big fan of this thing anymoreB-URGets hard outclassed by other waters C
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Dodrio3.428571429C+CHits hardB-B-C+I have to look into this thingBC+C+
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Dusclops3.285714286C+C+Haven't looked into this one too deeply but surely it still does some fun stuffB-C+B-Imprison is cool to beat other stall mons but honestly it feels extremely underwhelming and not that bulky since it has a super bad HP statB-Would put it in C+ if not for pressureCRan this on ladder and got crit 80% of the timeC+crit bait but imprison is nice
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Dragonite3.857142857B-C+Oh how we have raised and then fallen again. Mence lite with some matchup security. B-C+B-Overrated but mixed Band stuff can probably do thingsBIs very versatileB-Cool but mence does its job better usually B-mence lite free trial
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Houndoom2.428571429CC-Really bad but probably not UR bad, will investigateB-C+C+Outside of like Reversal its just worse ArcanineB-URCwhat does it even do
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Jumpluff2.428571429CCLeech Seed stuff has still surely gotta be fun.B-C+CB-Fast encore leech seederURWhy is this in the same rank as doom and yama wtfCngl ive never used it or seen it so im just keeping it here
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Medicham3.428571429C+C+Hits too hard to not be C+. Endure Salac Reversal seems really funB-B-C+Strong, somewhat bulky and fast, has some nice options, Shadow Ball is super nice to haveB-C+C+
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Cradily2.571428571C+URC+C+C+Actually seems really cool as a mixed staller with recover and a unique typing, also could go offensive?C+C+C+
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Grumpig2.571428571C+CTrick is cool and I like CounterC+CC+Trick with good bulk, Thick Fat, and decent speed is super nice. While it faces a lot of competition from Alakazam, the better physical bulk alongside Counter allows it to handle physical threats like Metagross better, and it's bulk + Trick allows it to handle certain bulky threats like Walrein and Registeel without sacrificing a lot. Also Shadow Ball and HP Fighting is fun for luring TTar and ZamCC+Owns stall and mence at once C+thick fat + trick + beats mence
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Jolteon1.428571429C-URC+CC-RaikouCFell off once Raikou started packing restC-Losing to raikou is pretty shitty and i dont see it doing much elseC-raikou
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Meganium2.571428571C+C-Counter is neat and probably does fun thingsC+CC+It's a grass starter with a lot of bulk, Frenzy Plant, and no Psychic weakness, so it can sometimes fit on certain teamsB-Just a worse Venusaur less prone to psychic CCounter is niceC+
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Milotic2.571428571C+C-This mon is not good, but its sometimes a safer Vaporeon. Can also beat Vaporeon with Splash which is fun lmao. Mirror Coat!!11C+C+CVery bulky with Recover, not much to say other than that, its alrightC+C+I lied its good but the water type is very high in competition so this is kind of badC+
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Miltank2.428571429CCI want to look into it more but surely its ability and typing and BST and movepool make it C rank and somewhat usableC+B-C-Thick Fat gives it a niche over other normals though it isn't that muchC+CC
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Typhlosion1.428571429C-C-Zard but with a better Raikou matchup i guess?CC+URCURC
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Articuno1.714285714CC-Will investigateCC+CCC-C-
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Hitmontop1.142857143C-URCC-URCTrustC+TrustUR
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Porygon21.571428571CC-Potential cteam machine and insane versatility but complete matchup fishCCCCURC
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Shedinja1.714285714CC+This mon is very usable. being great into Raikou, Vaporeon, most Hera, Bliss, etc is heat. I like it.CCURCC-C
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Skarmory1.857142857CCI saw marsh using this thing. Its typing is clearly awesome vs Physical attackers but its sooo linear. Would like to lab out more matchups with itC-C-CCCCool monC+
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Slowbro2CC-Someone enlighten me.C+CC-I don't know what this doesCC+I really like this monCbelly drum expert belt brick break didnt even beat blissey reliably or smth
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Claydol0.8571428571C-URSo close...C-C-C-Has some unique offensive and defensive traits, seems like a niche pick but decent nonethelessC-C-QhatC-
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Crobat0.5714285714C-C-Toxic Fly does things (not completely unviable)C-C-URC-URh UR
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Flygon0.2857142857URURC-URURIt has some cool tools with its speed and Ground typing, but Salamence is often just better. Gust being viable is pretty funny tho.C-URDon't use itUR
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Gardevoir0.4285714286URURC-C-has some potential with imprison and good special bulkURC-URBadUR
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Illumise0.5714285714C-URC-C-charm encore with more phys bulk than zam and a usable speed tier. notably, has a much better wak mu than barrier zamURCURLooks badUR
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Kangaskhan0.4285714286URURC-C-URIdk what this does over bullC-UR👍UR
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Kecleon0.8571428571C-C-Im attached.CC-URCURUR
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Poliwrath0.4285714286URURC-CURURURnoUR
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Scyther0.7142857143C-URC-CC-C-URUR
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Swalot0.5714285714C-C-I've seen it do thingsC-URC-Really cool and flexable, and has some amazing tools. Liquid Ooze prevents Leech Seeders, which beats other bulky mons like Registeel and Regice alongside Seismic Toss (looking at you Sceptile), Sludge Bomb does a decent number and has that 30% poison rate, it has Counter, Acid Armor (with 64pp), and Amnesia to stall well, decent offensive options with Fire and Thunder Punch and Ice Beam, and, of course, ENCORE. This mon has a lot going for it, look more into itURMuk is probably betterC-Cool but awkward to click withUR
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Vigoroth1C-C-I wanna look at it more, people have been gassing it up a bit and the movepool is thereC-URCSeems pretty cool. It's pretty fast, has access to Encore, Amnesia, Counter, Charm, Seismic Toss, and Slack Off, which is amazing, and it's bulk is usable.C-C-C-
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Espeon0URURURURURURURZamnUR
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Hypno0URURURURURURURUse the pig surelyUR
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Jynx0.1428571429URURC-URURURUR No. Was bad even with zapdos now its 10x worse since you lose to mence and have a penis mu against wak UR
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Linoone0.1428571429URURURURURIt's fun, between Belly Drum and Trick Band, but it's just too frail and weakC-Belly drum espeed saving this thing URMaybeUR
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Lunatone0URURURURURWhenever I've tried to use it it's stats just made it unusable. It has some unique traits but they aren't enough to carry itURURNahUR
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Nidoking0URURURURURIt sure is there, idk I don't see a decent niche for now, though I may be proven wrongURTried building with this but it sucks so much. Nidoqueen lowkey betterURDid you know that nidoking cannot breed with nidoqueen but can breed with nidorina?UR
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Rapidash0URURURURURI mean maybe but ehhURURZapdos meta UR
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Steelix1C-CYeah this mon is cool. Torment Lix can handle Raikou and Tauros in one, while also beating a lot of Band Pokemon. It fit as a 3rd once on an LRXC team which means its C rank yeah ggC-URCURURBody press sets are coCit beats riakou and tauros or smth
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Togetic0.1428571429URURURURURC-URUR
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Wailord0.1428571429URURsorry Wailord videoURURURIf it had pressure I would consider it, but honestly it doesn't do enough to differentiate itself, and it seems very badURC-MaybeUR
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Wobbuffet0.1428571429URC-Really good into offense but sooo techable and you usually don't need to think to beat itURURURSeems unique though I haven't tested it out yet, I gotta trust yall with the matchupsURURUR
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Breloom0.8571428571C-URC-C-CC-URC-
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Kingler0URC-Stall is fun shoutouts 5lukeC-URURURURUR
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FeraligatrURC-SD and Torrent is pretty neato
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