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10/6/2015 20:02:25joe nash
captjoenash@gmail.com
gulf shores, al. 36542
Private Recreational Angler, Charter/Headboat For-Hire
I am for sector separation, any way we can get this would help with the electronic logbooks you will know at least how many fish were caught by both the commercial and for hire sector at any given time, a no brainer. I am for regional management for the RECREATIONAL anglers, this may help them get the target days they would like, but no regional management for the charter for hire, lets get separated now for good, we are not under the same rules now and never have been we have always been separated but recreational anglers never knew that. thank you for your time.
Headboat program should stay intact they showed good management, we would like the same opportunity.
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10/20/2015 8:14:40William PenningtonWbrp@comcast.netCollinsville, Ms 39325
Private Recreational Angler
I have a lot invested in a boat and a house on the coast(Dauphin Is) it is difficult formed to get in more than one or two trips a year for red snapper. The short season often encourages people to go out in marginal or unsafe weather conditions.
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10/20/2015 9:06:51David Waltersdavid@rives.comMt. Brook, Al 35243
Private Recreational Angler
Please vote to reject this amendment. This is ridiculous. The commercial and charter boat businesses should not be allowed to own the red snapper.
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10/20/2015 9:28:54Sam BowenBbowen@bnspc.comGulf Shores,AL,36542
Private Recreational Angler
Amendments 41 and 42 should be rejected in total. As soon as the fishery is privatized the private angler will be excluded, as we will not have the time or resources to fight for our share of the red snapper. The Feds should manage it, though should be fair and equal division. Currently we have 10 days in a row, only maybe half will be fishable days and only one weekend. How can a working man find time to fish for snapper? Every day I fish all I can catch is red snapper because of the horrible mismanagement of this resource. Give us more weekend days and a longer season at the least, as there are no other fish for us to catch anymore.
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10/20/2015 16:28:27stephen bowen
srbowen@mysylacauga.com
equality, AL 36026
Private Recreational Angler
Please do not pass more laws that will further prevent individual anglers from enjoying sport fishing. The season was 10 days only this year with a limit of 2 fish per person.
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10/22/2015 18:26:11Capt Cliff Cox
Sweetjodyfishing@gmail.com
Destin, Florida, 32540
Charter/Headboat For-Hire
I am in favor of Amendment 41. The CFH sector needs it's own management plan
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10/24/2015 21:06:39j denny kearley
mckearley@bellsouth.net
daphne, al. 36526
Private Recreational Angler
This amendment and amendment #42 are significant in that new methods are being considered without the inclusion of private anglers, once again. The only new amendment that needs to be considered, is one that corrects the inequalities introduced in the original plan where 80% of the fish are given to a few thousand commercial and charter fishermen while millions of private anglers are left with a pittance. If an allocation method is to be considered, it should consist of tags being issued as license are purchased whether the are to be used on private or charter boats. I noticed that this is not one of the options. Also, if the council would like suggestions that are fair, please considered not allowing any charter or commercial fishermen to harvest fish within 20 miles of the shoreline. This would prevent over harvesting in this area and still allow the larger boats in the commercial and charter industry to have almost unlimited space.
I will wait with great anticipation to see these two proposals to show up on the docket.
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11/1/2015 9:07:04Thomas Vordenbaumtmv36830@yahoo.comAuburn, Al 36830
Private Recreational Angler
As someone who has just retired and was looking forward to fulfilling his lifelong dream of moving to Orange Beach, Alabama and deep sea fishing, I ask that amendment 40 and 41 be rejected in its interity.

It is the individual that brings the most dollars to the gulf areas. By privatizing fisheries management so that it can be manipulated to the commercial fishermans best interest makes me second guess my decision to retire to the beach area.
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11/9/2015 22:50:05Christopher Barton
info@reeldiversioncharters.com
Bradenton, FL 34212
Private Recreational Angler, Charter/Headboat For-Hire, Commercial Fisher
I think the best management option for both charter and headboats regarding ARS, would be to develop an IFQ style system. This would allow the vessels to be able to fish for this species when they are most prevalent in their local waters. It would also allow a more accurate measurement of the amount of fish caught each year,
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11/13/2015 10:40:40F J EickeCaptEicke@AOL.com
Ocean Springs MS 39564
Private Recreational Angler
Separating the "components" of the recreational sector is a fabrication from the MSA and the amendments to then consider allocation and management based on charter and headboat "components" is therefore ridiculous. When a federal agency violates the basic principles on which it functions (read: Gulf Council), other steps are needed to either rein-in the agency or eliminate them from management responsibilty for a public resource. State management is the answer since states have a record of successful management and now have the data-bases to do so in a responsible manner. Amendments dealing with Sector Separation and the follow-on that would allocate under this illegal provision are therefore beyond the pale and should be killed before they become policy - so we do not then have to live with policy that harms the public good and a vital public resource. The Gulf Council is about to kill the private recreational sector (including the charter captains although the influence on this group tells them otherwise).
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12/12/2015 21:11:25michael short
gethookedcharters@yahoo.com
galveston, tx. 77554
Charter/Headboat For-Hire
All for Amendment 41. Let us (CFH) figure out the best way to run our own business.
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2/16/2016 10:45:13thomas adams
4tomadams@gmail.com
port st joe, fl 32456
Private Recreational Angler, Charter/Headboat For-Hire
The things that should NOT PASS this hand picked ,red snapper CFH committee are

VMS required on every permitted cb
Required electronic trip reporting for every trip
Catch shares, IFQs for permitted CBs
Possible coops for CBs where local individuals will be responsible for quota distribution
Allowed intersector trading of red snapper between commercial and CB owners and allowed use of red snapper commercial quota owned by CB dual permit owners for charter use

Most of these issues, especially-- intersector trading and VMS for all Federally permitted charterboats, have been discussed at great lengths and have been told it would never happen in the CFH sector. I have 2 boats and know of 10 other boats in our area Mexico Beach, port St Joe that do not support any of the above actions that the ad hoc committee may talk about or support.

As we have done previously, there should be a vote by the permit holders not by this committee, or the Gulf Council.
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3/17/2016 17:27:51F J EickeCaptEicke@aol.com
Ocean Springs MS 39564
Private Recreational Angler
There should be no [repeat NO] move to put the charter-for-hire or headboats under a system comparable to the IFQs in the commercial sector. This would result in the same diminution of the number of boats available to the public and likely an increase in charges from the boats holding such shares. The Gulf Council should never - eventhough it already has - assign a property right to a group that will concretize the allocation and deny new captains from entering the fishery. Such a move would virtually be establishing a multi-member monopoly and that is un-American in every sense.
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4/11/2016 16:56:04Charles Turnercturner@elmore.rr.com
montgomery, AL, 36022
Private Recreational Angler
I do not agree with removing the sunset clause of amendment 40. There seems to be some movement in the commercial sector allowing recreational activities under the guise of commercial use. I feel charter and commercial should be combined if the original commercial allocations will be used to circumvent recreational restrictions.

I appreciate ya!

Chuck Turner
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5/18/2016 9:41:03Kevin Lanierkclanier@gmail.com
Mexico Beach, fl. 32410
Private Recreational Angler, Charter/Headboat For-Hire
Sport Fisherman are one group. The resource belongs to the people and not the permits. There does not need to be a separate management plan for Charter/Head boats. I fail to see why you feel it is necessary to separate the 2. All Sport/Recreational fisherman should have equal access to all fish no matter what they choose to ride on. One plan for sport and one for plan for commercial. Instead of making things more complicated like government normally does. try making it simple.
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5/26/2016 12:39:51David Patlovanydjpat@sbcglobal.netHouston, TX 77059
Private Recreational Angler
Amendment 41 needs to be eliminated. Federally Chartered Guide Boats are NOT recreational fishermen. They are business owners that own a COMMERCIAL business. They are taking RECREATIONAL ANGLERS out onto public waters to fish for a public resource that is equally owned by ALL recreational anglers, whether they own a boat or not. ALL recreational anglers, whether they are on a private boat or a for-hire boat need to be managed under the SAME federal catch restrictions. Reserving a portion of the RECREATIONAL catch allowance for COMMERCIAL business operators is not legal. Let all recreational fishermen follow the same seasonal restrictions and fix the management of the red snapper fisheries so they are handled by individual states that are better equipped to manage local fishing pressures.
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8/17/2016 18:02:51Gordon Burdette
captgburdette@gmail.com
Orange Beach Alabama 36561
Charter/Headboat For-Hire
I want to send in this comment to show my SUPPORT FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER 41. I was unable to attend todays meeting in New Orleans, but did listen to WEBINAR as I always do. Thank you for all that y'all do and I also appreciate our nice Red Snapper Season 2016.
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9/26/2016 16:26:46ECHO ECHO
MAK02242@YAHOO.COM
77471
Private Recreational Angler
THEY ARE NOT RECREATIONAL FISH IF THEY ARE CAUGHT WHILE BEING PAID TO TAKE RECREATIONAL FISHERMEN OUT!!!!...( "PAID = COMMERCIAL...PERIOD...) WHERE ARE THE COLLEGE DEGREES THAT SAY DIFFERENT ? YOU KEEP SCREWING THE PEOPLE THAT RESTORED THE RED SNAPPER REEF FISH... WHILE THE COMMERCIALS KEPT EVERYTHING NEVER LIMITING THEMSELVES ??????? NO ENFORCEMENT OF THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AT ALL AND I HAVE SEEN IT FIRST HAND.FROM MATAGORDA TO GAVLESTON KATIES SEAFOOD ARE CROOKS THAT HAVE PAID OFF EVERYONE TO KILL RECREATIONAL FISHING PERIOD......
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10/12/2016 7:01:24Eric haeck
Ehaeck@hawkinsserviceco.com
33572
Private Recreational Angler
Have to go out 30 plus miles on the west coast of Florida to catch ARS! Need more than 9 days. If a handful of commercial permit holders are making millions by selling their fishing rights then your system is broken.
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2/8/2017 11:13:48Christopher WilkeCrwilke@att.net Seabrook TX, 77586
Private Recreational Angler
I do not agree with the laws on red snapper. The laws make it difficult for recreational anglers to want to go deeper offshore when the number 1 fish caught isn't able to be kept. We first need to abolish the sea lord gang. There is no other industry that let's 50 people have a monopoly of the resources gathered. I also think there needs to be tags that recreational anglers are given each year and we can use these tags at anytime in the year for recreational angler last year 9 days x 2 fish = 18 tags. Last year because of the tropical storm, I was only able to fish 1 day out of the 11 you so graciously gave us for the endangered red snapper. But this is how you want the recreational fisherman to be. I feel you are slowing trying to stop recreational fishing and have the snappers caught only by commercial fisherman. This is unacceptable.

Chris Wilke
EMT-Paramedic
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3/22/2017 9:29:21
Christopher Dombkowski
daiwafan25@yahoo.com
Dayton, Ohio 45434 AND Cibolo Texas
Private Recreational Angler, Charter/Headboat For-Hire
I would like to see a quota split for the head/for hire boats. I believe that 50% of the quota should come from the commercial side and 50% should come from rec angler side to satisfy the fact that their endeavors are indeed from both angles. They are making monetary income off the public resource while still providing a recreational opportunities. This would allow charters and headboats a longer snapper season so they should be interested in this as well it would be a major win for them as well as helping to satisfy/ease the burden on the rec angler side of some of the issues at hand.
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