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TimestampIndicate your level of support for Potential Ballot Item #1: Prohibition of using taxpayer dollars for union salaries.What do you see as the "Pros" to Potential Ballot Item #1: Prohibition of using taxpayer dollars for union salaries?What do you see as the "Cons" to Potential Ballot Item #1: Prohibition of using taxpayer dollars for union salaries?What "Questions" do you have for the Board or others related to Potential Ballot Item #1: Prohibition of using taxpayer dollars for union salaries?Indicate your level of support for Potential Ballot Item #2: Prohibition of using District resources to collect union dues.What do you see as the "Pros" to Potential Ballot Item #2: Prohibition of using District resources to collect union dues?What do you see as the "Cons" to Potential Ballot Item #2: Prohibition of using District resources to collect union dues?What "Questions" do you have for the Board or others related to Potential Ballot Item #2: Prohibition of using District resources to collect union dues?Indicate your level of support for Potential Ballot Item #3: Prohibition on the Collective Bargaining Agreement model.What do you see as the "Pros" to Potential Ballot Item #3: Prohibition on the Collective Bargaining Agreement model?What do you see as the "Cons" to Potential Ballot Item #3: Prohibition on the Collective Bargaining Agreement model?What "Questions" do you have for the Board or others related to Potential Ballot Item #3: Prohibition on the Collective Bargaining Agreement model?Do you have any other feedback you wish to share?
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8/26/2012 22:34:32OpposeA waste of taxpayers dollars. Spend my money on studentsOpposeA waste of taxpayers dollars. A waste of your time. Focus on the kidsOpposeTeachers need a CBA. DCSD will loose it's finest teachers to other districts if it chooses this path. The value of my house will go down. Don't do this!
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8/27/2012 11:28:59OpposeNoneI believe the union has been in place in DCSD for many years and continues to be important for our district. OpposenoneI do not see what collecting dues is a problem. Union membership is optional, it is up to the teachers to decide how they want to spend their income.It is my understanding the district was charging the union to collect dues, is that correct? OpposeOur DC teachers want to have a CBA. We are already losing great teachers due to the climate in our district, the more successful surrounding districts around us have CBAs and communities and school boards that support our teachers. Since we have been in DC schools for 7 years, I have seen a sharp decline. Our schools have increased class sizes, reduced staff, and a lot more fees. Why are these issues never addressed by Dr. Fagen and the BOE? They spend all of their time and district money on a failed voucher plan, expired CBA, arbitration between the district and union salaries, a new "app", but we never hear about how our children and their education are important. The teachers are afraid to say anything (I witnessed first hand 2 teachers being "silenced" by Dr..Fagen at a PTO meeting. What is going to happen to my children, to all of the kids in DC? And now the BOE is putting these initiatives on the ballot...why? Why are my kids sitting in the biggest classes they have ever been in? Why are programs being cut? Why has the district run up over 1mil in legal fees on a voucher program for 500 students (and they continue to fight it) when DC has 60,000 in it? One thing is very clear. This BOE and superintendent has a clear agenda that has nothing to do with educating the children of DC.
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8/27/2012 12:34:30OpposeOpposeOppose
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8/27/2012 15:25:51OpposeWill be challenged in court, wasting more resources than they save.why are you wasting time and resources on something that has no bearing on solving the issues of over crowding and lower graduation requirements. What happened to world class education when we ask less of our high school students?OpposeIt is something they do on the employee's behalf.OpposeThe initiative prohibiting a CBA will be thrown out in court, so it is irresponsible to even put it on the ballot. Carson should know this.No sense trying to have a rational discussion with irrational people.The community needs to understand the ultimate price they will pay is lower real estate values.
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8/27/2012 15:30:07OpposeOpposeOppose
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8/27/2012 16:33:41OpposeThis is done already. Why waist money to "policy" on the ballot. It is only policy and will only ever be policy. Future boards will not be bound by this in any way. OpposeThis is done already. Why waist money to "policy" on the ballot. It is only policy and will only ever be policy. Future boards will not be bound by this in any way. OpposeThis is done already. Why waist money to "policy" on the ballot. It is only policy and will only ever be policy. Future boards will not be bound by this in any way. These are done already. Why waist money to "policy" on the ballot. It is only policy and will only ever be policy. Future boards will not be bound by this in any way.
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8/27/2012 16:43:21OpposeNoneThis initiative only further serves as a divisive and unwarranted move. The school board can do this already, why waste money and time on this. The school board is acting with wrecklessnes and whatever their intentions are- the perception is that they want to get rid of experienced teachers and hire new teachers for less money. These measures only further prove that they once again acting as a political bulldozer in lieu of working for the good of a one time icon in Colorado education. What is being referred to as the statu quo is what other Colorado school districts aspired to be. Why are you not focusing your energy on passing a bond to help our schools. This board is postured perfectly to be the ones who could showcase our school district. Competition from school to school is absurd. We have great schools. Get out there and promote our amazing public schools. Schools that already have choice. Make people want to live here. Realize that the small tax increas that would be needed would be monumental in showcasing our district. Why mess with political ideologies when you can put your efforts in support of public schools whose status quo is what others see as a benchmark for success.OpposeThis school district worked successfully with the DCft for decades. Current District leadership once was a part of and partnered to make this a great place to be. This is a small and helpful tool for teachers.See aboveOpposeSee above
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8/27/2012 16:43:25SupportSupportSupport
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8/27/2012 16:45:01OpposeNoneThis is a ridiculous measure and waste of time and taxpayer dollars to place for a vote. District was paying for services performed.OpposeNoneThe district was making money on this arrangement so to attempt to discontinue it is ignorant. If you discontinue this, then you must do for ALL entities for which dues are collected.

This is a politically motivated issue and is a waste of taxpayer dollars to place for a vote.
OpposeNoneOur district has ALWAYS had a CBA. Eliminating the CBA (as you have already done) places the teachers in a state of flux not knowing from one day to the next, what their rules are. Negotiating a fair CBA is a benefit for the teachers.Why are you wasting time, effort and taxpayer dollars to push these clearly - politically motivated issues. You have done immense damage to this district, its reputation, the quality of education and our teachers. It is time to stop this ridiculous behavior and get back to supporting our teachers and kids.None of these items should be placed on any ballot.
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8/27/2012 16:50:12OpposeThe union leaders have been beneficial in leading professional development and helping the administration get the word out. During the budget cuts of 2009 - 2011, the union leaders met with staff in collaboration with the district administration to explain the budget concerns of the district. It would be difficult if the union leaders was working full time as teachers to have the time to represent the needs of the district. How much are you going to have to increase the Human Resource department and the Professional Development department to fill the gap that is left from not using the union leadership.?OpposeSo.. this means we will never collect for any non-profits through payroll deduction. It is the employees money so why do you care how the money is spent? OpposeDoes this also mean the union that represents the transportation department? I thought that agreement had been settled?
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8/27/2012 16:51:24UnsureHow long have tax payer funds paid for union leaders?

What is the annual expenditure of taxpayer funds for union leaders?

How many union leaders have taxpayer funds supported? What are these union leaders' responsibilites?

Did the Union offer to pay for Union leaders (instead of using taxpayer funds)?
UnsureDoes this help make teacher's lives easier?

How much does the Union pay the District for this service?
OpposeNONEGood teachers will leave our district. They will have no voice.Why are you trying to break up the Union when it has worked well for so long? How does this help our kids? How does this help our teachers?Why are you trying to 'reform' a top ranked and high performing school district?
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8/27/2012 16:54:14OpposeWould tie the hands of future boards. Eliminates any incentive for collaboration on defining the roles and potential strengths of working closely with union leaders. Assumes leaders chosen by teachers have nothing to add to the converstation about what is best for kids.OpposeWould tie the hands of future boards. Ignores the fact that the union reimbursed the district for any costs related to the automatic deduction.OpposeWould tie the hands of future boards. COmpletely ignores the voices of teachers on the "front lines" of educating our children.
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8/27/2012 17:06:28OpposeOpposeOpposeThere is absolutely NO evidence that Unions hurt schools. The top ten performing states in the U.S. all have a strong Union presence. You can not institute school reform without engaging the opinions and input of educational professionals. At minimum, 70% of teachers in this district choose the Union to be their representative voice.
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8/27/2012 17:16:54OpposeOpposeWill they stop collecting dues for other unions that represent district workers? Seems to be this should apply across the board.Oppose
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8/27/2012 17:29:25OpposeEven more control and less collaboration by the BOE. This ballot initiative is a non-binding initiative. It appears to be nothing more than Director Richardson making a personal attack on the Union leadership. It is my understanding that since the B.O.E. and DCFT failed to agree on a new collective bargaining agreement that this initiative is not necessary. It only appears to validate Director Richardson's anti-union slant. Put Ballot Initiatives on the ballot that deal with REAL student driven needs/issues not personal attacks on Union leadership.Why are you wasting tax payer dollars on a ballot initiative that has no binding power? OpposeNothing. This is a bookkeeping/banking function.The school district collects health, vision and dental premiums. They even have to collect those EVIL PERA dollars too! It is my understanding that this was a bookkeeping service that was provided by the District but cost them nothing.How much did it cost the District to collect and pass on those Union dues? Does the District still collect and pass on Union dues or did that end with the expired collective bargaining agreement?OpposeOne less thing the BOE has to discuss in executive session!Now the District has to hire more HR people to deal with individual teacher contracts, establish and re-align market based pay, etc. This initiative is ANOTHER WASTE of election resources to validate their disdain for the DCFT. Why are you asking the voters to validate what you have already decided? Is this the way you deal with everyone who disagrees with you.....to yell at and interrupt them, lose your temper or put another initiative on the next election ballot? I am extremely disappointed in the actions, behavior and decisions of the current BOE. They appear to care more about their personal agendas than the needs of our schools. TEACHERS, PARENTS and STUDENTS are the most important players in the school district and should NOT be the BOE. I'm embarrassed by their actions and wish they would leave their politics and personal agendas at the Board Room door!
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8/27/2012 17:41:42OpposeRetain public trust (or what's left) in unions and what they can doUnion busting, it's already happening and might be the nail in the coffinAre you serious when you say that you represent the "majority" of taxpayers?OpposeNo mixing moneyMore inconvenient and yet another union busting mechanism.Can we also get a ballot measure prohibiting taxpayer funding of vouchers? OpposeNoneMakes professional teachers powerless against the whims of crazy boards.Why?No but I can't wait to cast my vote against them in Nov 2013!
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8/27/2012 17:50:51Opposenone
District will be forced to use additional public funding to pay for those expenses that are currently covered by the union officials, such as staff development and human resources. Pay the union, or hire more internal staff, it's a wash and not worth the time and expense of placing on the ballot.

Also, this ties the hands of future boards. Each board should be allowed to make these decisions based on the facts and circumstances of the year in question.
How do you intend to pay for the human resource management, professional development and continuing education costs of teachers that had previously been handled by the union as contractors for whom you paid half their salary?OpposenoneBy ending the direct deposit paycheck deductions for union dues, the District will also cease to collect the fee that the union had paid it for doing so.

Again, this ties the hands of future boards. Each board should be allowed to make these decisions based on the facts and circumstances of the year in question.
Why on earth would you put such a trivial procedural matter on a ballot? OpposenoneAgain, this ties the hands of future boards. Each board should be allowed to make these decisions based on the facts and circumstances of the year in question.

Eliminating collective bargaining is doing nothing to help our students. In fact, it is already hurting our students, based on the multitudes of excellent teachers that are leaving the district. Teachers are the most important factor in our student's success and if they prefer to bargain collectively rather than individually, we should respect their wishes and do so. This is such a trivial matter that only affects students by way of employee morale, so we should show the teachers they are valued and respect their right to unionize. The DCSD teacher's union has always worked cooperatively with the BoE and there is no reason to sever the relationship, other than spite. (This comes from a Republican parent in the district. No, I'm not a teacher, nor do I have on in my family).
I am extremely disappointed in the actions of our current school board. They never discuss anything of value to students. It's all political talking points and anti-union rhetoric. Even as a Republican, I am sickened that they put party over kids. These ballot issues are a complete waste of taxpayer's time and money.
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8/27/2012 17:52:42OpposeOpposeOppose
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8/27/2012 18:04:05OpposeNoneMany school districts use this model and it works well. OpposenoneThis was not costing the school district money in the first place. Why does it matter?OpposenoneIt is a direct violation of my rights. I also think it allows for more and more items that are not good for kids without any checks and balances in place.
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8/27/2012 18:27:13OpposeNone*Creates an even deeper divide between the union, which is the teachers, and the BOE.
OpposeNone*The district has had payroll deduction for union dues for the past 40 years. By taking away this capability, it is just obvious that the BOE's goal is to bust the union.
It does not cost the district any money to provide this service.
Why would quality teachers want to come to DCSD or stay in DCSD when they can go to any other district and have these rights....union dues deduction, CBA, good working relationship between the teachers, union, and BOE?OpposeNone*By listing the CBA on the ballot and trying to ensure that the CBA will never be reinstated, I am afraid that the district is going to lose all of the quality teachers we have left.Why would a quality teacher want to come to DCSD when they know they will not have a CBA?
All of the teachers that have continued to stay in the district are just hoping and waiting for things to go back to normal. We want the working conditions we had in the past that were fair and just. By trying to make these changes permanent, we lose all hope that these teachers will stay. Why wouldn't they want to leave and go to a district that has all of these important and valuable things in place?
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8/27/2012 18:31:29SupportOpposeOppose
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8/27/2012 18:48:15OpposeIt's ridiculous. This is not a voter issue, it is a board issue. I can't imagine what might be gained from this.The board loses more credibility. The initiative might lose. It's a risk not worth taking.What does the board gain by proposing this initiative? Why take the risk?OpposeSee above--same commentsOpposesee above. same comments
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8/27/2012 18:56:50OpposeUnion leaders support both union and non-union teachers. They provide a service for teachers, which provides a service for our children. It only makes sense that at least a portion of their salaries should come from public funding.OpposeInsurance premiums, and retirement fund premiums are collected from employee paycheck on insurance and retirement fund's behalf. Why should the union dues be collected as well? Plus, the district actually made a small amount of money for providing this service. What's the problem.OpposeMore than 70% of teachers in DCSD choose to belong to the union, with the majority of the remaining 30% working at charter schools, which prohibit their teachers from belonging to a union. Our teachers choose to belong to the union for many reasons, one being the benefit of negotiations by professionals to give them the best salary and benefits possible. This board may not choose to negotiate with the union, but future school boards should be able to make that choice for themselves. It's not right for these seven Board of Education members to make the choice for future BoE members.
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8/27/2012 18:57:27OpposeUnion leaders and actual teachers are one in the same. Teachers have a right to form a union, the Board cannot have a right not to pay its employees.SupportThe union is a voluntary association, and payment should come from the individuals who choose to be a part of that association. The so-called "resources" used are immaterial and this ballot initiative is unnecessary.How much additional money is required to actually withhold the money and render payment to the union? How is this any different than individual garnishments or other withholdings? It seems doubtful that the act of withholding the money and cutting a check costs the District anything material.OpposeNone of these ballot measures are worth putting on a ballot. None of these can bind future boards.
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8/27/2012 19:09:45OpposeWaste of resources for something that the BOE has said they wouldn't follow should it be defeated.OpposeWaste of resources for something that the BOE has said they wouldn't follow should it be defeated.OpposeWaste of resources for something that the BOE has said they wouldn't follow should it be defeated.I don't believe the BOE has the authority to require future boards to comply with these mandates. I believe that these initiatives are a terrible waste of resources, and if the BOE wants the public to weigh in, they need to first LISTEN to what the public has been saying.
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8/27/2012 19:15:39SupportTo see what the PUBLIC really ewants, not jusst a bunch of haters who have no clueNone, other than more haters coming out of the woodworkWhy do you put up with the haters?SupportWhy Not?OH HECK NO!What took you so long? These union leaders lie when they open their mouthsUnsureThey aren't required to, so why put it on the ballot?see aboveok, whatevernice survey, please do more
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8/27/2012 19:15:56SupportThe union dues should be paying the union salaries, not the school district. It will make the union mad and they will spread more lies and tear our district apart. What took you so long. SupportThey should do it themselves. NothingSupportNo union.Union strong arms in Douglas County.
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8/27/2012 19:24:08OpposeNoneThis seems completely unnecessary because the union leadership is no longer paid by the district. This is now a non issue. Pursuing this would be a waste of resources and money.OpposeNoneThe union no longer has dues collected by the district. They have said that they would not want to go back to the old system. This is not necessary and just wastes resources, money and time, and creates a further divide between the union and the community.OpposeNoneThe board has said that they want for teachers to be able to have any organization that they choose negotiate on their behalf. Teachers should be able to choose to have the union negotiate on their behalf. This is just another effort to drive a wedge between the union and the community and it opens up the possibility for future BOE's to also put initiatives like this on the ballot, which would tie the hands of boards that are elected.
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8/27/2012 19:40:17OpposeBreaking the trust level between the board and the employees. Employess feel unsupported, demoralized and like they are being attacked. It feels like Douglas County has been targeted as a place where the conservative community does not understand that to guarantee an outstanding education for their children and maintain their property value they have to support their teachers through a difficult economy (2 failed bond issues). National policy is being made here at the expense of all under the guise of "transparency" and "fiscal responsibility". The union has always been more of a teachers association. This board is using the language of "fiscal responsibility" to push forward their agenda and I do not think the parents have ANY idea the effect it is having on the classroom. The demoralizing of the teachers is like an invisible cancer that will only become apparent to the residents of Douglas County after it has consumed what they value. This is not about Douglas County it is about an organized, well funded, conservative group who know little about education putting through their own self-agrandizing agenda. They are praying on a this system because it fit the profile they needed: high achieving district, fiscally conservative public, cooperative union that had enjoyed a long, low conflict relationship with the previous boards. It is truly frightening to me to see how this is being orchestrated. It is a calculated, well choreographed, decitful, use of a social psychological phenomon called "gradualism".

In Craig Richarson' comment in the Denver Post article where he says, "I suggeest we consider at the next meeting ballot language that would prohibit the district from every funding with taxpayer dollars union salaries and public pension benefits going forward" whose pension benefits is he talking about?! Union members or is the next area they will target employer contributions to PERA for teachers?! Isn't it sad that the trust level is so low this is even an concern??????????OpposeThis is a calculated move to separate the union from it's members. It is abrupt and a huge change in an existing system. The union is scrambling to build a system to communicate with members who have been exhausted by 5 years of staff reductions and increased pressure. Many of the teachers have been in a good job situation with the county for years and are slow to realize the severity of the issues.

It is also my understanding that the district has been compensated all these years by the union for the clerical time it takes to collect union dues. When paychecks were done manually that may have actually even been a real cost Teachers are now paid one time per month and it is all automated. My guess is the expense is being reimbursed, or is so negiliable that it is a non issue at this point. But, it sure makes a good sound bit for this board! Again, "look at us, being so responsible with your tax payer dollars", when all along they are spinning it to convince the voters of their "good work" as they push through their agenda.
OpposeIt is a power play. Their agenda is to break teacher unions across the country. They are targeting 5 states. They have researched the situation and have targeted a county that is fiscally conservative, has had a cooperative, under prepared union, and high achieving students (meaning no one is on their guard) and used that to push forward their own agenda. It has nothing to do with the the students of Douglas County. They are just the ones that will suffer as excellent teachers are demoralized and retire early or flee to other districts. By the time people realize the damage that has been done it will be years to rebuild something that used to be so admirable. People flocked to have their children educated in this county. That will not be the case in the near future.

The sad thing is that this union was a cooperative positive force for teachers and the board for many years. This was not an aggressive group that did whatever necessary to protect poor teachers. That's why they were selected. It is much easier to take down those that are not prepared and organized to fight.

Sorry, I am being redundant!
Thank you for fighting the fight to try to save what remains of DCSD!
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8/27/2012 19:45:02UnsureI support the idea of no taxpayer money support union employees.It is not clear to me how binding the ballot measures actually are. What is the publics recourse if future BOEs choose to ignore these measures?SupportIf there is a union, they can collect their own dues, not use the taxpayers money to do sononeSupportUnions have no place in public employment. Each employee should be hired, paid, retained, and promoted according to their experience, the districts needs, and their individual performance.none
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8/27/2012 19:58:48OpposeOpposeOpposeteachers being treated unfairly, things changing at a whim
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8/27/2012 20:05:27OpposeNone!It's just another misuse of board power to demoralize the teachers.OpposeNone.Creating more deterioration in the working conditions for teachers and the relationships between the board and staff.OpposeNONE!!!This is just further proof of the board's intention to destroy the union!Why are you creating a toxic work environment for the teachers? Is demoralizing your staff supposed to help students learn better?It is hard to believe that, only about two years ago, the Douglas County School Board was recognized for the exemplary working relationship between the board and the teachers' union. What a tragedy it has been for our community to have a hostile board takeover like this!
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8/27/2012 20:05:58OpposeOpposeOppose
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8/27/2012 20:09:34OpposeIf the union leaders are spending a portion of their time working on district initiative and collaborating with the district then it is appropriate to pay them as they would any other employee for their time.OpposeMy guess is that the District is reimbursed by the Union for collecting this money just as they collect money for other services such as a Tax Sheltered annuity.Is the District Reimbursed for the cost of deducting dues?OpposeThe district should and must collaborate with their employees. Many employees have left the district and will continue to do so in larger numbers. I have heard from many potential and former employees expressing concern about the current direction of the district.I believe this is a renegade Board of Education that is acting without a clear mandate from the public. Their actions are going to hurt the public schools in the community which will ultimately result in a deterioration of property values etc.
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8/27/2012 20:23:50OpposeOpposeWill you actually listen to the public opinion and be truthful about the results?OpposePlease listen to your community, you are screwing with teachers! They are the soul of the district and you are attempting to destroy them for some unknown agenda.
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8/27/2012 20:39:08OpposeIt will only be a pro for the BoE to further their political agenda to abolish our union.We need a checks and balances with the BoE. Without the union, we have none.OpposeIt doesn't hurt the school district in any way. My understanding is that the DCF even paid the fee to have dues taken out. This is just another way for the BoE to eliminate our union.OpposeWe need the checks and balances. Since the DCF had such a strong reputation and working relationship for 40 years with DCSD and the only thing that has changed is the BoE and Superintendent, I think we can clearly see where the problem lies. The BoE and Superintendent have an axe to grind about unions so they are taking it out on DCF. They clearly don't like having their fake version of "transparency" questioned. November of 2013 can't come soon enough. Bye Bye BoE!
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8/27/2012 21:03:40SupportTax dollars should not be used to support union salaries. The money should stay with our schools in a way that directly benefits our children.There are no cons to this proposal.What is the cost savings and where will the money go?SupportAs the spouse of a teacher, it forces us to see the money going to the union. Automatic deductions from a paycheck are "out of sight, out of mind."

Providing teachers with a monthly reminder of union dues will increase the questions of where the union dues go and their purpose.
No cons to this proposal.What is the cost savings and how will this be allocated back to our schools.UnsureI need more information on this proposal.I need more information on this proposal.I need more information on this proposal.No.
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8/27/2012 21:13:36SupportPublic unions pose an inherent threat to the fiscal health of the taxpaying district in which they reside. Public unions tend to support candidates who end up doing the negotiations with the actual union members who helped to put them in office. These elected officials use these negotiations *wink wink* as an opportunity to reward the union for their support.SupportThe unions are an advocates for the union members they represent and therefore, no third party should be involved with the financial transaction of dues collection.Unsure
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8/27/2012 21:28:34OpposeOpposeOppose
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8/27/2012 21:33:58OpposeProviding more money for the board to give to private schools via vouchers.elimination of teachers' voice in district decision makingWhat conservative think tank proposed this initiative for you to put on the ballot?OpposeFor the union-busting board, this is a way to reduce union membership and eliminate teachers' voice. For teachers - noneMost teachers will still continue to be union members, because they realize that their careers are at risk in Douglas County Schools.Which of your big donors proposed this initiative to you?OpposeThis will gain the board nothing but animosity from community and employees.This takes us back 100 years to the era of big bosses and downtrodden workers.Which of you will be running for state office on the ultra-right conservative platform first?
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8/27/2012 21:40:37OpposeNot a single thing.Teachers should be able to spend the money they earn as they see fit. This whole "taxpayer dollars" thing could ignite a firestorm about how public employees spend their money.Why is it they need to focus on this rather than what really matters-the education of the children in the DCSD!!!!!OpposeNada, zip, zero, nothingI really don't see why it is such a big deal, especially when the district gets money to collect the dues.OpposeAbsolutely NO pros!Teachers need to spend their time with children, not negotiating their contract. Plus, this brings up a myriad of other issues around the number of people that will be needed to facilitate these negotiations.
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8/27/2012 21:45:08SupportGood way measure public opinionnothing, actuallyn/aSupportsee abovesee aboven/aSupportsee boveee aboven/ano, but thanks for the survey
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8/27/2012 21:45:24SupportThe Union needs autonomy to do its work. Being paid by the district can cause conflicts of interest. There are enough union dues collected to pay for union leaders' salaries and benefits.I would hope that union leaders could continue to pay into PERA while serving in their union capacity. That said, I do believe it is an AFT issue to resolve, not the district's responsibility.OpposeHaving the dues come from staff paychecks makes it much easier for everyone and the BoE needs to get over their snit on this. They are just being mean-spirited. It is an easy, automatic thing to set up so the cost on the District's part is small. Whatever the cost actually is can be negotiated with the union and paid for by them if truly an issue.

it is important for the BoE to remember that paying union dues is a staff member's choice and it is their money to do with as they wish. The BoE doesn't stop other auto-pays, like for insurance.
The BoE needs to stop trying to control others and their choices. Remember, the BoE says they stand for choice. Well, live it!OpposeZero-Nada-ZilchEverything is a con. The new method of determining compensation with the bands is not defensible. It will keep quality folks from becoming teachers in DCSD. Putting any of these three initiaitves on the ballot is extremely short-sighted of the BoE. The decision will haunt them and the district for many years to come. As a community, we don't need to vote on policies and procedures such as these.
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8/27/2012 21:52:30OpposeWhy are we spending money on a opinion poll? The ability to have congressional power to make "laws" is not within the scope of the Board of Education. Therefore, any result, for or against, the proposed questions is mute and a total waste of time and taxpayer money.OpposeWhy are we spending money on a opinion poll? The ability to have congressional power to make "laws" is not within the scope of the Board of Education. Therefore, any result, for or against, the proposed questions is mute and a total waste of time and taxpayer money.OpposeWhy are we spending money on a opinion poll? The ability to have congressional power to make "laws" is not within the scope of the Board of Education. Therefore, any result, for or against, the proposed questions is mute and a total waste of time and taxpayer money.Why are we spending money on a opinion poll? The ability to have congressional power to make "laws" is not within the scope of the Board of Education. Therefore, any result, for or against, the proposed questions is mute and a total waste of time and taxpayer money.
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8/27/2012 22:04:53OpposeOpposeOppose
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8/27/2012 22:55:12OpposeOpposeOppose
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8/28/2012 6:16:16OpposeNoneOpposeOpposeBy keeping the pot stirred the Board is doing further harm to the students by keeping the uproar in Douglas County going.
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8/28/2012 6:26:24OpposeOpposeOppose
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8/28/2012 8:51:33OpposeThe relationship between DCSD and DCFT has worked together for 40 years until this board has been seated. The relationship between DCSD and DCFT has been lauded nationally. I am in support of using my tax dollars to pay salaries to union leadership for said leadership to collectively bargain for the teachers and staff, to offer low interest loans to teachers and staff, for their offerings of staff development classes, and all else the union does for teachers and staff of DCSD. This union works for every staff member in DCSD, not just membersWhy the vendetta?OpposeNonePartnership, collaboration, and commitment to each other has been working-until this board. Why not make things just a bit easier for staff by having dues taken out from payroll. The system was set up! Why the vendetta? Do you feel the same about police and fireman unions?OpposeNothing, ABSOLUTELY nothingThe teachers and staff of DCSD need representation. This board is against teachers and staff=poor education for kids. Why the vendetta?I have lived in Doug Co for 32 years. I have never known the political affiliation of any board member until this board has been seated.
Take the politics out DCSD- don't tell me who to support or what to support.

RECALL
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8/28/2012 9:50:11SupportWe should not use tax payer funds for union salaries.Why is it taking the union so long to repay the district.? Why didn't you ask for the entire amount that they are in arrears and owed to go into a fund for supplies for teachers?SupportWhy are we helping the union to collect dues to campaign against the taxpayers and to undermine reform efforts?Why wasn't this done earlier?Support
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8/28/2012 10:00:52OpposeAbsolutely none unless the BoE thinks presenting our county in a manner that makes us look so bad that parents do not want to have their children educated in this district... even if the voucher program was in place. It appears hostile and sends an extremely negative image of Douglas County as a whole, the school district, teachers and family. I am a home owner and tax payer. What this board is doing and how they are acting is NOT attracting new families to move into our community... it is sending them away. Which means our property values and prospects of selling our homes is going down! PLEASE DO NOT PUT ANY OF THESE INITIATIVES ON THE BALLOT!!!!!The livelihood and continuance of any union should be determined by a majority of the union members and no other party. Get back to caring about the students in your school district. OpposeAbsolutely none. The BoE has already banned collection of union dues from employee paychecks. Why do you need to have an initiative on it? There is NO need to have any initiative on the ballot concerning the union. It along with the other initiatives makes the BoE appear to be more interested in busting unions that educating the children of this school district. The BoE must enjoy doing things that make them look extremely unprofessional. It appears that the BoE care more about their politics and personal agendas that have no direct impact on educating students. Take off your blinders and listen to the community! Why would you waste time developing an initiative when you have already put in place what the initiative is stating? Do you realize by acting in this manner you keep painting a bigger and bigger target on your collective backs to have the community join together against you? I guess I should say "thanks" because that is exactly what is happening. OpposeNONE in my opinion. One would have to assume that the BoE's potential pro would be to run off and discourage excellent teachers from wanting to work here. With public actions like this the BoE are tearing down our community's reputation, property values, and our children's opportunity to have a quality education. Why haven't you researched and realized that the former BoE member, the administration and the teachers union have had tremendous success in making the district one of the best in the country? Collective bargaining has a great deal to do with that. IF YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON POLITICAL AGENDAS GET OUT OF THE EDUCATION SYSTEM AND GO WORK FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!

YOU WILL NOT TAKE DOWN THIS COMMUNITY. YOU WILL NOT DESTROY OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM WHICH HAS BEEN ONE OF THE BEST IN THE NATION.

Signed,
A concerned community member and tax payer.
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8/28/2012 10:23:24SupportThe tax payers should not have to support any union. The union does not report to the tax payers. The tax payers have no say in how the union acts.I see no cons. The district is supported with tax payer funding. The union is a not-for profit, let them do their own paper work.What took the district so long?SupportThe resources spent previously collecting dues for the union can now be spent doing what they are supposed to be doing, supporting the students in their education.I see no cons.What took the district so long?SupportTeachers should be rewarded based upon performance, not guarantees through strong arm tactics and threats of strikes.

All teachers should be required to pass annual performance reviews in order to retain their jobs, not based upon a contract with a 3rd party who has no interest in the students, but only in their own affairs.
I see no cons.What took the district so long?With the declining quality of education, reforms need to be made. One reform that will help is to require the teachers to meet standards that are best set by the district and the board of education. It is the board of education that will take the heat from the parents and the students if they fail.

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8/28/2012 10:29:33SupportThe primary pro for prohibiting the use of taxpayer dollars for union salaries is that we as taxpayers aren't encumbered to support the unions period!!!!! We also don't know where the union puts their dollars (well we do but we don't), so this will prevent dollars for political use.SupportWe should be in the business of educating our kids period!!!!!!!SupportAgain, we should get out of the business of being involved with the union period!!!! This doesn't serve the purpose of educating our kids.I commend the board for standing up for their principles and for fighting for our community and educating our kids. THANKS!!!!!
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8/28/2012 10:39:41SupportNeither Govt nor taxpayers should have anything to do with this process and it should stand on it's own.NoneNone
SupportNeither Govt nor taxpayers should have anything to do with this process and it should stand on it's own.NoneNoneSupportTeacher accountability should be to the district, parents, and students and no one else. Unions should not be part of the equation at all.NoneNoneIt's about time this happened. Glad to see some common sense filtering into government. Keep it up.
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8/28/2012 10:41:11OpposeIf a School Board has the ability to do this on their own, why is it necessary to impose your will upon future Board members?OpposeIf a School Board has the ability to do this on their own, why is it necessary to impose your will upon future Board members?OpposeIf a School Board has the ability to do this on their own, why is it necessary to impose your will upon future Board members?
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8/28/2012 10:50:25OpposeNoneNoneWhy, why, why???OpposeIt makes it harder for teachers.The BoE gets more power.Why, why Why???OpposeMore power to the BoE.Leaves the teachers powerless.Why, Why, Why???BoE - please resign your positions so that reasonable people may serve our wonderful DCSD!!!
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8/28/2012 11:07:18SupportSupportSupport
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8/28/2012 11:08:29OpposeThe union has already agreed to this policy. Why do you need a ballot item for this policy? Waste of taxpayers money.OpposeSame as above. The union has already agreed to this policy. Again a waste of my money.OpposeThis union has worked for over 40 years in a cooperative manner with both the Board of Education and the Superintendent. They negotiated in faith by allowing Ballot Item #1 and #2. Negotiations broken down when the union recommended 3% pay raise. I find it ironic that the Board approved a 1% pay raise and a 1% re-signing bonus. The Board approved an additional 1% bonus at the August 21 meeting. I fail to see just what is wrong with the Collective Bargaining Agreement process and this union. The union has also received praise in the past for the cooperation they have given on pay-for-performance and teacher effectiveness programs. I just don't get the motivation to change was has been working for years.I would like some detailed background on why the Board of Education feels so strongly about "breaking" the union. I question their motives because of the reasons I have stated above. (email address deleted) Thank you.
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8/28/2012 11:52:01SupportI support an appropriate use of taxpayer dollars to stay in the classroom to educate kids, not to fund union officer salaries.I see none.SupportPuts the duty of collecting dues with the organization, rather that using district resources.I see none.SupportI fundamentally oppose the existence of a union for teachers, as I see no benefit to kids in the classroom; I believe this takes the focus from an organization so that we can get back to what's important...the education of kids.I see none.
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8/28/2012 12:52:12OpposeOpposeOpposeI oppose our school district spending any time or precious funds on ballot initiatives that are simply collecting public opinion. We cannot afford this, and I even question the legality of such a move by our BoE.
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8/28/2012 14:16:38OpposeOpposeOppose
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8/28/2012 17:40:04OpposeThere are no pros for eliminating the union except to get the boards agenda to
Play out. They are idiots that think the people of
Douglas county are stupid
They are pitting people against each other instead of
Working together for the good of the children
What is wrong with you OpposeNoneWhat difference does it make if they collect the dues
It is not coming out of their pay. Thank goodness
We don't pay them
Where does it effect your bottom lineOpposeNoneI think that the CBA is good for all bc it keeps
People talking and neutral
Amazing that you found the money that the union
Originally wanted to give to employees after you got
Rid of the CBA
I think that the board is being ridiculous and childish
In their behavior. I also think it is interesting that surveys
Don't count if they don't get the result that the board wants.
They should bag the voucher system before it costs them
Any more money and focus on getting our district back on track
Of attracting good teachers and making the schools the best
They can be. Losing 600 teachers is not normal no matter how they
Spin it
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8/28/2012 18:41:22UnsureOpposeOppose
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8/28/2012 19:03:10OpposeUnnecessary. This is more government involvement. I want less government involvement. OpposeUnnecessary. This is more government involvement. I want less government involvement. OpposeUnnecessary. This is more government involvement. I want less government involvement.
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8/28/2012 19:32:56OpposeOpposeOpposeThere are no pros. Losing more quality teachers as a result of the lack of trust.
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8/28/2012 19:48:05OpposeOpposeOppose
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8/28/2012 20:04:43OpposeOpposeOppose
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8/28/2012 20:23:22OpposeOpposeOppose
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8/28/2012 21:33:29OpposeOpposeOppose
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8/28/2012 21:40:28OpposeThese are merely policies the BoE wants to set and putting them on the ballot is a waste of time and money. Please put the focus where is belongs- on OUR children and their educations. AKA do the job you were elected to do!These are merely policies the BoE wants to set and putting them on the ballot is a waste of time and money. Please put the focus where is belongs- on OUR children and their educations. AKA do the job you were elected to do!Why are you worrying about all of this instead of worrying about OUR children and their education? OpposeThese are merely policies the BoE wants to set and putting them on the ballot is a waste of time and money. Please put the focus where is belongs- on OUR children and their educations. AKA do the job you were elected to do!These are merely policies the BoE wants to set and putting them on the ballot is a waste of time and money. Please put the focus where is belongs- on OUR children and their educations. AKA do the job you were elected to do!Why are you concentrating on these issues instead of focusing on the purpose of the BoE- OUR children and their educations?OpposeThese are merely policies the BoE wants to set and putting them on the ballot is a waste of time and money. Please put the focus where is belongs- on OUR children and their educations. AKA do the job you were elected to do!These are merely policies the BoE wants to set and putting them on the ballot is a waste of time and money. Please put the focus where is belongs- on OUR children and their educations. AKA do the job you were elected to do!For the last time, WHY are you focusing on these non-issues that will NEVER be law and will ONLY be the current BoE's policies and start doing your jobs? Which, again, is focusing on OUR children and their educations?Yes, why is the current BoE focusing on everything EXCEPT what they were elected to do? FOCUSING ON OUR CHILDREN AND THEIR EDUCATION? Start doing what you were elected to do and stop wasting our time, money and energy. This is getting really old, really fast. DO YOUR JOBS!
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8/28/2012 23:04:38OpposeNONEThe District should be working together with AFT to build a strong school system.
OpposeNONEThere is a court case in Arapahoe County that proved it only cost a few dollars to push a button for dues to be diverted to the School's official union.
There is virtually such a low cost to this, so why are you wasting taxpayer's dollars getting this on the ballot.
OpposeAbsolutely noneThe discussion that comes from both sides coming to an agreement makes a stronger working relationship and a stronger working environment for educator which is a child's learning environment. Without this healthy conversation, a weaker school system will erupt.
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8/29/2012 7:08:26OpposeNone. They already control thisThe union will work regardless of these idiots.Why are you focusing on things that don't help students? There was no problems with the union before you all came and took the rights way from teachers. Why are you turning our district into a private company? OpposeThe district won't be in teachers business and teachers will have privacy over belonging to the union. We need an avenue for teacher and employee voices to be heardWhat does this have to do with children?OpposeNone. This board and administration want to take all rights away from the teachers and employees. They have threatened, bullied and taken away rights teachers once had. They want to silence teachers voices forever. They are making a change which will affect the future and good teachers will never come here if they can't tell the school distric what is good or bad about policy, that WILL hurt students in the long run. They will all be gone and our district will be in the toilet, but they will have kept their promise to further the Republican agenda to destroy the unions of America. Their actions are self serving. They DON'T care about the teachers as they say they do. Their actions prove the oppositeWhere will you all be in five years when our schools are horrible? Who will fix your mess if you make this permanent. You are not God, yet you act like you are .I am a teacher in Douglas County. Please keep my name and information confidential, or I'm afraid I might lose my job.
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8/29/2012 9:51:26OpposeThere has always been support for the union leadership from the district and that is what has made DCSD such a vibrant district. If they want to limit the funding in an era of tight budgets, I believe that the union will find ways to make their impact on the budget much less of a drain.OpposeIf the district objects to this, although they allow for many other deductions to come from employee pay, it is small-minded. They need to state why they object to this since, I believe, their real goal is to break up the union and make it more difficult for people to join.OpposeWorkers/teachers should have the RIGHT to collectively bargain for work conditions. As a result of collective bargaining, teachers and students have benefited from many issues which affect outcomes: smaller class size, training, student discipline procedures, calendar, special need support systems, etc..Besides breaking up the union and privatizing our schools, what are you hoping to achieve by doing this?What the district is doing to our community makes me terribly sad. There has never been a time in my life in Douglas County where I have seen such ugliness or meanness from elected officials.
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8/29/2012 12:36:32SupportI don't want my tax dollars supporting Unions ever.Nonen/aSupportThe Union and the school district are seperate intities and should remain as such. Unions can collect their own dues.nonen/aSupportUnions have no business in schools at all. They are harming our children and not helping our schools. They are tying the hands of the School Board and making their self interest over that of the students.nonen/aTime for the unions to go. Get out of our schools. Free the School Board up to do the job they were elected to do which is teaching our children.
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8/29/2012 14:10:09SupportSupportSupport
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8/29/2012 16:12:31OpposeI see absolutely no prosThe union is one thing that projects and brings our under paid, over worked teacher together. Who do they have to turn to if there is no union! Make no mistake many people realize what is happening. Many see it as an attempt to disband the union.OpposeThe union is a choice, if teachers don't want to be a part of it they don't have to be!OpposeNoneGives the board all the say in teachers compensation etc. Teachers are already under paid in Douglad County. Not only that but good teachers are leaving b/c they can make more money elsewhere.I am totally disgusted with the current BOE. Can't wait to vote them out!!!!!
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8/29/2012 17:29:25OpposeThere are NO pros. They are working for the educators of Douglas County!!!!The protection of educators must be done by educators. School Boards have absolutely NO knowledge of the needs of teachers or compassion for protecting them or addressing their needs!!!!!OpposeAbsolutely no pros!!!Collection of union dues must be done within the district where the educators perform their duties!!!!Why are you desperately trying to destroy the representation of educators in Douglas County ???????SupportEducators must have collective bargaining to represent their needs in a school district like Douglas County when there is a school board hellbent on destroying them with the BoE's private agenda!!!!!Educators need representation!!Have you lost your minds????? Already know the answer!!!!Put vouchers on the ballot for the public to decide. Don't give voucher money to religios schools!!!
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8/29/2012 20:46:59OpposeNoneOpposeNoneOpposeNone
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8/30/2012 7:49:23OpposeDouglas county has had a long history of successful work between union and district. What is the long term goal of this current school board? It feels as if they want to have all power and do away with any collective bargaining. Have we forgotten why the unions were formed in the first place. It was for exactly these reasons. School boards become too powerful by taking our voice away and the teachers and the kids lose out in the long run.Union salaries non union salaries...what difference does it make. You are creating a problem where there wasn't one before.OpposeThis is simply an accounting measure. One stroke and thte $$$ goes over here. Leave it be.It seems like the board is making a mountain out of a molehill. OpposeTake away the workers voice and they we have anarchy or a dictatorship. What is this board afraid of?

Does Wisconsin ring a bell? Does this all have to be about politics or can it come back around to the teachers and children?

If you spent as much time working on bringing more $$$ into our district instead of this petty fighting our students would all benefit. Get your priorities straight.
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8/30/2012 10:31:23SupportThe union is an optional body, the members can opt to pay their own leadership. Public dollars should be used for public employees. Union leaders are not public empolyees, they do not preform public service. They preform private and optional service for public employees.none.I do not believe that the BoE has the ability to go to the public for this issue (no matter how much I support such a measure) if there is no enforcability why are we bothering?UnsureAre there physical costs associated with collecting these dues? if there are I am 100% in favor of the practice being ended. We need to save every dollar for the classroom and the children and teachers can certainly write a check directly.

I see this as a service to the employee and if the service is not costing us anything, then i have no issue.
I do not believe that the BoE has the ability to go to the public for this issue (no matter how much I support such a measure) if there is no enforcability why are we bothering?SupportEnding decades of charade. The union steadfastly refuses to see the math and understand just why we dont hae money, prefering to instead wallow in conjecture and false information to build understandings based on shakey ground.nothing, the public sector is funded by the private sector and this type of chicanery does not exist to that degree in the private sector. Education must be funded in a way that makes sence and is fair to those paying for it. I do not believe that the BoE has the ability to go to the public for this issue (no matter how much I support such a measure) if there is no enforcability why are we bothering?
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8/30/2012 10:39:49OpposeI don't feel it should be a law that taxpayer dollars can't go for union salaries. I understand your position on this, but why do you feel the need to set the rules for future board members? OpposeIf they are going to collect union dues for other organizations, they can't single out one organization - AFT and change the rules. Why are you continuing allow the collection of dues of the transportation union and not allowing the collection of dues for the AFT? Please clarify in dollars how much it costs the district to collect these dues because it is my understanding that once automatic withdrawal is set up, it is automatically withdrawaled. OpposeThe only pros I see are if you are on the current BOE and are trying to bust the union and decrease the moral of the teachers. This is NOT this board's right to make this type of a law for future boards. If this board doesn't want to do deal with the union, then don't, but don't make it a law to prohibit the CBA. Why do you feel the need to make this a law and put it in the ballot. How much money is the costing tax payers to do this? As a tax payer, I am appauled by the fact you are wasting my time and money on an issue that you shouldn't try and have control over for future boards.
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8/30/2012 12:18:13OpposeThere are no "pros" to this potential ballot item. This should never have been proposed in the first place. It does nothing to help our children in our schools. Political posturing only.The "cons" to this potential ballot item include that it is a waste of money, time and energy that could be channeled to helping our schools instead of creating more division in our community. Why waste so much effort on this when you will not listen to the people unless they tell you what you want to hear?OpposeI see no "pros" to this ballot item. Either allow it or don't - you don't need to waste the money, time and energy - and create more division - by making a big deal about nothing.The "cons" include the fact that this is going to cause an even bigger rift in our community at a time when we need to work together to improve conditions.Why waste so much effort on this when you will not listen to the people unless they tell you what you want to hear?OpposeThe teachers' union and the board of education in Douglas County have a long history of working together in a collaborative, positive environment. If the board has a problem with the union, they should work together to come to a resolution. Again, all of these ballot items will do nothing but create more division in our community. It is absolutely the wrong thing to do. Let each board of education make their own decisions - you don't need to enact a Prohibition on anything.What is this board so afraid of? Why can't the board work together with the union representatives to come to an agreement? I witnessed the open negotiations, which were not negotiations. As a parent, I am very concerned about the role this board is taking in the school district. My children will suffer because of the board's actions. We moved here from another state in 2003 because of the great reputation of the school district. I would not make the same mistake, and that would be a shame because my children have had some amazing teachers in the past several years, and we would have missed out on their classes if we'd move to Littleton instead. Please stop with the politics! I never even knew which of my children's teachers were in the union before you started this bickering - and in most cases I still don't know which teachers are in the union - but I'm solidly on their side now. There is no difference between the union and non-union teachers - all have made a positive difference in my children's lives. Please stop pushing your political agenda. Your so-called reforms are not fixing anything, but breaking what was not broken.
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8/30/2012 15:28:53OpposeOpposeOppose
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8/30/2012 18:38:35OpposeNoneThis is a step to weaken a union, a union which is a valuable part of the community. It's is not the job of the school board to pass legislation and thereby politicize something that does not need to be politicized. Stop this agenda and get back to what you were elected to do, improve school and the opportunities for childrenWhy is this even being considered? To what end? Leave the unions alone.OpposeThis is a step to weaken a union, a union which is a valuable part of the community. It's is not the job of the school board to pass legislation and thereby politicize something that does not need to be politicized. Stop this agenda and get back to what you were elected to do, improve school and the opportunities for childrenOpposeThis is a step to weaken a union, a union which is a valuable part of the community. It's is not the job of the school board to pass legislation and thereby politicize something that does not need to be politicized. Stop this agenda and get back to what you were elected to do, improve school and the opportunities for children.To what to end is the Board moving? They are ruining a once great school district.
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8/31/2012 12:44:05OpposeI see no pros to this issue. It does not belong on a ballot.I see no cons to this issue. It belongs within the school district to support teachers and staff members. Though the DCFT supports staff through collective bargaining, the more important issues are the professional growth opportunities offered by trained facilitators, the support for students by working with teachers to improve instruction, classroom management, and assist struggling teachers to e able to make positive choices for the enefit of students. These are issues that should be supported the employer, not the public who do not always have the specific knowledge of educating students. Though the public may have well-intended ideas of how schools should be run, what would keep a "witch hunt" from occurring because a staff member is not liked for some reason. It is already difficult for staff members to work with non-supporting administration (not necessarily a new problem, but becoming more prevalent), who would support the staff member through the intricacies of such a career-damaging act, especially when undeserved.OpposeI see no pros to this ballot item.The primary con I see is that staff members would not feel supported by a District that claims to understand and would support them. If the Board does not support teachers with something as simple as collecting union dues via payroll deduction, then what else will not be supported. It is a simple thing to say that staff is recognized and valued.What is the big deal about collecting dues? Why is this an issue? It seems another slap in the face that says staff is not valued.OpposeI see no pros for staff members or students or parents.When staff does not have input to working environment, then morale just deteriorates which ultimately leads to student and parent dissatisfaction. Historically, DCFT has had a positive relationship with the Board and teachers have felt as though they positively influenced how children are educated. Since the ultimatum of signing a contract or lose your job was announced, the Distict has lost the confidence of the staff. Morale has suffered. How can a staff work for a Board that does not appear to value their professionalism.What do you fear with collective bargaining? Doesn't it seem to offer a win-win for all involved? Shutting down communication is vital for a healthy school district, how can dictating a contract and publishing a teacher document create a positive workplace?
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8/31/2012 22:21:00OpposeOpposeOppose
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9/2/2012 9:26:08OpposeThe Board does not need to waste the hundred(s) of thousands of dollars to take this issue before the voters as they already have the authority of make this a reality. Why waste taxpayer resources to take it to a vote?What is the cost/benefit analysis of moving this measure forward? If you currently can accomplish this without spending any money, isn't is a waste of taxpayer resources?OpposeHow much has the District saved by its move to stop collecting union dues? How many employees have been reduced in the HR/Payroll department?

Is it enough to pay for the measure to be placed on the ballot?
OpposeI look to the employee to see what they prefer. If they want a CBA, why not allow it? Do employees need to negotiate their contract each and every year? If so, this seems like a pretty ridiculous requirement to place on the employee and the principals. Principals are responsible for hiring, evaluating and negotiating contracts for the hundreds of teachers that exist at schools?

I don't believe this is a realistic requirement. In industry, a manager typically does not have more than 10 employees and they don't need to negotiate their employees' salaries each year. Seems pretty inefficient and unrealistic to expect principals to do this.
Why did Director Larsen, Director Gerken, and Superintendent Fagen speak in support of the teacher union on February 15, 2011 at the Labor Management Conference DCSD co-hosted here in Denver? To view the DCSD description of the relationship, go to:
http://www.ed.gov/labor-management-collaboration/conference/douglas-county-school-district
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9/2/2012 19:53:49SupportMany districts around the nation do not pay union salaries. Frankly, the union can afford to employ their own people. Although I'm not opposed to unions (I'm in one), I wouldn't necessarily want my tax dollars to support a union. If, on the other hand, union representatives are, in full or in part, employed by a district, then of course they should be compensated as employees. Not involving tax dollars in union salaries keeps things "clean" and "fair." Those opposed to unions are forced to see their tax dollars go to something they don't support. In a way, this is almost akin to separation of church and state and the school vouchers issue. Those opposed to vouchers oppose it because they don't want their tax dollars to fund religious schooling. Using tax dollars to pay for union salaries, in part or in full, runs along those same lines. Why is this even an issue? It's already been decided that union salaries are not covered in any part by the district. The fact that is is even a potential ballot question tells me the BoE are not exactly paying attention to the needless redundancy of this ballot question. Move on, BoE. SupportSame issues, more or less, as stated in the first question. It's not a problem for the union to directly withdraw funds from members' accounts. To me, this issue is "six of one and a half dozen of the other." It doesn't really matter how they get their dues. Again, why is this even a potential ballot issue? The union HAS ALREADY AGREE and IMPLEMENTED an alternate way of collecting dues. Why in the world is the BoE bringing this up? Seriously, how did these people get elected? Why are you bringing this up? It's a moot point. OpposeThere are no pros to eliminating a CBA. A Collective Bargaining AGREEMENT is just that: an agreement between two parties. This agreement levels the playing field and determines the rules by which all will play. With an agreement, teachers are protected and can focus on the important business of teaching, which protects students. Additionally, a CBA helps create a better classroom experience for students by limiting class size, offering aides to teachers, developing and implementing professional development trainings, and ensuring the work and learning environment of teachers and students. Why wouldn't you want a CBA? Knowing the playbook, which can't be changed until the next negotiation period, keeps everyone honest. The union is not a bunch of thugs. You're just anti-union because that's the mantra of your political party. Yes, some unions are corrupt. But, some governments are corrupt as well. The DCFT and the DCSD have a LONG history of collaboration. Why do you want to mess with something that is working so well simply to further your political agenda? These ballot issues are ridiculous and have nothing to do with student learning or achievement, except for maybe the CBA question. At what point will you all focus on learning? When will each of the BoE members submit their letters of resignation? People with little to no educational experience really have no business making decisions about what happens in the classroom. None of them are really qualified for the position. The honorable thing to do is to resign.
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9/2/2012 19:55:01OpposeThe DCFT leaders have provided a great service to the school district over the years. The professional development opportunities they provided to school staff was irreplaceable. The DCSD leadership were fools to let them go.What harm to student performance and achievement did this present or cause? OpposeThis was a service to district employees. Besides, didn't the district make a small profit each month for these collections? Again, what was the harm to student achievement?OpposeThe district will need to increase staff in HR as staff negotiate for themselves. Not an efficient use of my tax payer money.In what way did the district "negotiate" during open negotiations with DCFT? Do teachers need to anticipate the same kind of stonewalling when they are negotiating for themselves?
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9/2/2012 22:07:31OpposeWaste of tax dollars on a ballot. This is a negotiation issue.OpposeIt is wasted tax dollars to put on a ballot. Thisis a negotiation issue.I am unclear as to why this practice was stopped. I saw it as a good faith gesture to ease the burden of writing a check for the hard working teachers in the district. It is their money to spend as they see fit. What was it an issue for this Board to take away this service? OpposeThis ballot item is an unnecessary expense of tax dollars.I fully support the teacher's need to have collective bargaining. After they clearly stated their wishes to keep CBA through a letter writing campaign, why did the Board not negotiate in good faith to keep CBA for the educators of DC? I am very disappointed with the actions of the DC BOE in their negotiation with the union, or lack thereof. I feel they have wasted time and resources on trying to bust the union, when our neighborhood schools have suffered massive budget cuts for years. It is unacceptable that these types of political ideals have been placed in front of helping children receive the very best education possible, rather than these types of forced agenda items. The Boards focus should solely be on getting the classrooms sizes back to reasonable counts, programming returned and APs, EAs, spec needs, back in the schools, etc and regaining high morale for teachers. Listening to the parents and community would be helpful as well.
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9/3/2012 8:17:21UnsureSupporting the union with only membership dues will eliminate any conflict of interest.The union appears to be providing services that are beneficial to the district and therefore it makes sense for the district to pay for these services. Could the district still contract services from the union?OpposenoneThis is creating a deeper divide between district leadership and their employees. It is simply a service that doesn't hurt the district in any way.OpposenoneHigh risk decision, a lengthy legal fight, dividing the community, driving out excellent teachers.Why would you want to take this risk? What if DCSD is no longer able to compete for top teachers because our neighbors are offering a CBA? It is highly risky to tie your hands or any future school board's hands without even knowing what the impact of eliminating a CBA will be. The Board seems to have an agenda and isn't making decisions that are best for students. They are taking great risks, designing programs while they are being implemented and doing so without listening to their customer base. The last thing this district needs is more controversy and another legal battle. It's clear that the district's in house attorney is being paid not to advise the Board but to twist the law to satisfy their needs. It's clear that prime stakeholders in this district do not have a voice. It's clear that Board meetings are scripted and that the Board doesn't even care or understand the many decisions that are impacting DCSD students.
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