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#Kinderchat Archive Feb 13 2012. Topic: Effects of SES In the Classroom
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LAFairchildRT @literacydocent: Importance of building background knowledge~never assume prior knowledge! #kinderchat #elemchat http://t.co/bJsCDY8RTue Feb 14 01:31:02 +0000 2012
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KinderChat123Required pre-#kinderchat reading! RT @hechternacht: Reflections of SES on classrooms and learning. http://t.co/ecQO4FNiTue Feb 14 01:33:19 +0000 2012
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hechternacht@happycampergirl mine beg for Handwriting wo Tears but I do it all at once in Jan/Feb #kinderchatTue Feb 14 01:33:52 +0000 2012
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PeggyRemick@happycampergirl and that is why we use best practices to set our standards. #kinderchatTue Feb 14 01:46:47 +0000 2012
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hechternacht@ellie_d_grant Thank you! I didn't want to fill w stats, etc vs the language of "us"! Hope I did justice. TY! #kinderchatTue Feb 14 01:52:10 +0000 2012
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PeggyRemickA Framework for Understanding Poverty by Ruby Paine #kinderchatTue Feb 14 01:52:46 +0000 2012
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Matt_Gomez@ellie_d_grant been do that all the time, I am a reformed busy work teacher. #kinderchat saved meTue Feb 14 01:54:41 +0000 2012
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mrsdurkinmusesRT @theASIDEblog: Worksheets dampen motivation and offer no outlet to the poets, astronomers, and dreamers among our children. #kinderchatTue Feb 14 01:55:02 +0000 2012
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happycampergirlRT @theASIDEblog: Imagination and creativity should reign in kindergarten, not worksheet driven hum-drum. #kinderchatTue Feb 14 01:55:32 +0000 2012
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toys_r_textswhew. glad #kinderchat is just starting! so many tweets already, i thought i missed it. #kinderchatTue Feb 14 01:56:00 +0000 2012
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teach1techRT @TheTeacherGeek: Free ebo*k alert! Biscuit's Valentine's Day, on amazon, today only. http://t.co/vcrZKdO9 #1stchat, #kinderchatTue Feb 14 01:56:52 +0000 2012
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Matt_GomezMatt here, joining #Kinderchat from Texas.Tue Feb 14 02:00:58 +0000 2012
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happycampergirlRT @ryflinn: I cant make it to #kinderchat tonight am filling out a worksheet on professional development through collaboration! #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:02:47 +0000 2012
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tnprekteacherAmanda from tn. We are expecting 1-2" of snow overnight. #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:04:01 +0000 2012
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ryflinn@happycampergirl you like that One? #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:04:14 +0000 2012
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hechternacht@MauiMickey How did it go?! YOu were running around this am! #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:05:00 +0000 2012
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hechternacht@clippodcast Hello Vivian! #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:06:17 +0000 2012
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JillBollinger83Jill from Iowa, joining #kinderchat for the first time.Tue Feb 14 02:06:33 +0000 2012
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ryflinn@happycampergirl I hate PD talking about best practices and not learning bythe practice their preaching about #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:07:05 +0000 2012
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hechternachtRT @jodieworld: Me! RT @happycampergirl Wow, lots of new folks. Raise your hand if tonight is your first #kinderchat! #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:09:29 +0000 2012
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jodieworld@davidweldridge @nightzookeeper we are dedicated! #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:09:49 +0000 2012
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happycampergirl@jodieworld Yay! welcome! #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:10:14 +0000 2012
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happycampergirl@kassiaowedekind It's for our JK teachers re: planning w/INTENTION while still leaving room for kids' voice/choice. #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:11:05 +0000 2012
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kassiaowedekind@happycampergirl Sounds like a great topic! I'd love to have a PD chat on that topic. #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:11:44 +0000 2012
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tnprekteacher@erocklewitz happy birthday Erin #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:13:18 +0000 2012
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happycampergirl@erocklewitz Happy Birthday to you! Boom! Ching! Cha Cha Cha! #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:13:45 +0000 2012
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hechternacht@Matt_Gomez @erocklewitz Moby had a booth at tcea? #kinderchat ? :DTue Feb 14 02:14:14 +0000 2012
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MlleKathleenHiiiiiiii I'm here! Just got back from my soccer game. Kathleen from Edmonton here. #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:18:09 +0000 2012
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hechternacht@MlleKathleen Hi Kathleen! #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:18:55 +0000 2012
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happycampergirl@jodieworld It's all good. I've been 29 for as long as #kinderchat has existed, approaching 2 years now. You can be 29, too! #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:18:58 +0000 2012
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MauiMickey@happycampergirl My students are very much middle class. #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:19:21 +0000 2012
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ryflinnKids don't get to choose their families but we chose to be teachers #SES #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:19:30 +0000 2012
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alexisvorhausHi #kinderchat! I'm juggling valentines and bachelor but looking forward to the chat tonight! Alexis- From Colorado. :)Tue, 14 Feb 2012 02:19:58 +0000
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mpowers3Maggie from DC joining #kinderchat a bit lateTue Feb 14 02:20:25 +0000 2012
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MauiMickey@davidweldridge Serious stuff? Aren't your breaks for relaxing and recharging? #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:20:50 +0000 2012
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hechternacht@mpowers3 Hellooo! #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:21:13 +0000 2012
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mpowers3RT @teacherinme: RT @ryflinn: Kids don't get to choose their families but we chose to be teachers #SES #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:21:29 +0000 2012
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hechternacht@tnprekteacher I have been down your way-- very tough conditions #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:22:08 +0000 2012
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MauiMickey@nightzookeeper I will need to check out your site! :-) #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:22:20 +0000 2012
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nightzookeeper@davidweldridge can't open that link unfortunately :( can you send again please? #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:22:45 +0000 2012
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JillBollinger8340-50% low SES here, could be more. Very rural area as well. #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:22:51 +0000
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mpowers3@mllekathleen I imagine the French/English SES split could be tough. How does it play out in the classroom? #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:24:02 +0000 2012
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tnprekteacher@hechternacht it is but they make up for it in other areas. Most have a big heart and will do anything for you #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:24:19 +0000 2012
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jodieworldThere are some podcasts by nursery (kindergarten) on this page. Non-worksheet stuff! http://t.co/VOw2wVNz #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:25:26 +0000 2012
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toys_r_textsUrban/rural important distinction when thinking abt effects of poverty RT @tnprekteacher: 75% low SES; Very rural area #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:25:26 +0000
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happycampergirlRT @hechternacht: Do those in low SES areas feel supported? Where do you need the most help? What are biggest challenges? #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:26:16 +0000 2012
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jodieworld@hechternacht lots of support from district including free school meals for all without need to apply. Sch well equipped #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:26:55 +0000
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ellie_d_grant@hechternacht equality of access to tech as a tools- creating haves and have nots #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:26:56 +0000 2012
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happycampergirlRT @toys_r_texts: Urban/rural important distinction when thinking abt effects of poverty #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:27:09 +0000
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GailWells4@Margee78 All our students PreK-2nd get free breakfast and lunch #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:28:05 +0000 2012
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happycampergirlRT @hechternacht: What specific, unique strengths do teachers in low SES areas need? #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:28:20 +0000 2012
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nightzookeeperRT @jodieworld: There are some podcasts by nursery (kindergarten) on this page. Non-worksheet stuff! http://t.co/VOw2wVNz #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:29:08 +0000 2012
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mrjkindergarten@hechternacht You need to build equity in the families. Little things like knowing the kids different last names #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:31:03 +0000 2012
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MlleKathleen@happycampergirl I'd say early intervention after watching this http://t.co/zeqhH12X #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:32:01 +0000
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happycampergirlRT @alexisvorhaus: @hechternacht In so many ways not such different strengths than we need to teach middle to high SES though. #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:32:06 +0000
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GarriochOne thing children of all SES have is the common ground of play. Feel greatful to be teaching kindy this year to experience it. #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:32:09 +0000
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MauiMickey@hechternacht @nightzookeeper @davidweldridge Maybe could be another #kinderchat time for those in Europe? #edchat has 2 for time zones.Tue Feb 14 02:32:13 +0000 2012
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clippodcastbefore I go...where I used to teach SES was slippery with multiple families sometimes living in one house.#kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:32:25 +0000 2012
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happycampergirl@nomorebystander Thank you! Will add it to my Goodreads list! #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:32:34 +0000
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nightzookeeper@mpowers3 @hechternacht .you can then use this to engage the learners a lot easier. Make learning relevant to their experiences #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:33:16 +0000
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jodieworldThey do here RT @happycampergirl RT @hechternacht: Do low SES schools have as much playtime/recess as high SES? #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:33:22 +0000 2012
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mpowers3How do you deal with issues of equity vs. equality/fairness? Is what's fair/equal always equitable? #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:33:58 +0000 2012
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dubioseducatorCan only do a short time #kinderchat Really have to get going on writing my conferences. So happy I remembered in time.Tue, 14 Feb 2012 02:34:56 +0000
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Garrioch@mrjkindergarten Exactly, the parents are not always raising the child. #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:35:25 +0000 2012
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mpowers3RT @matt_gomez: Building relationships is key (yet again) Tired of hearing how many low SES parents don't "value" ed. Not true! #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:36:13 +0000 2012
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alexisvorhaus@Matt_Gomez Yes. They're often so busy working to make ends meet, make sure there's food on the table and the heat bill is paid. #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:36:22 +0000
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GailWells4@hechternacht Yes, full day and it is all at one time. #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:36:50 +0000
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davidweldridge@Matt_Gomez Absolutely right Matt. Rule one be there, rule two DON'T judge, then teach with energy and focus on the children #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:37:11 +0000
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Kindergarten113Hello all #KinderchatTue Feb 14 02:37:13 +0000 2012
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alexisvorhaus@hechternacht This kind of thing makes me ill... These kids need play just as much as another other. Maybe even more so! #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:37:41 +0000
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MlleKathleen@mrjkindergarten Yes, test scores should never be linked to $$$. #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:38:08 +0000 2012
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hechternachtRT @Garrioch: Always important to remember parents are doing the best they can in most cases, support them & care. Understand. #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:38:17 +0000
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mpowers3@clippodcast Agree! Been debating this issue in EDU612 @AmericanU Tough to make choices abt equity in edu, esp w/ diverse SES! #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:38:39 +0000
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Kindergarten113@Garrioch I have to admit I stopped sending home homework for that reason! #KinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:38:40 +0000
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mrjkindergarten@Matt_Gomez Sometimes it's not true..lots of times it is true. Show up on time come to conferences return a call be available #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:38:55 +0000
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Garrioch@Kindergarten113 I agree, no homework. Only homework is to play. #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:40:00 +0000 2012
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toys_r_textsRT@Garrioch important to remember that parents are doing the best they can in most cases. Support them and care. Understand. #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:40:21 +0000
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alexisvorhaus@hechternacht It depends on the district admin & the principal more than anything I think. Some principals get it. Mine doesn't. #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:41:19 +0000
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Kindergarten113@Garrioch Well reading is the most important thing you can do. Then play after. asked a S today did you play a lot? Read a lil? #KinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:41:29 +0000
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Matt_GomezFab 5 has helped me connect better with parents. Blogged about it here http://t.co/7B8Fn6XF #kinderchat #relationshipsmatterTue Feb 14 02:41:31 +0000 2012
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mrjkindergarten@Matt_Gomez I think some would say that, but I ask very little from some of my parents and have bee burned so many times #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:42:04 +0000
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alexisvorhaus@mpowers3 @hechternacht I think so. Due to being afraid of "losing" these kids. But we're more likely to lose them with no play. #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:42:20 +0000
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lyssareadsRT @ryflinn: Kids don't get to choose their families but we chose to be teachers #SES #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:42:59 +0000 2012
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MlleKathleen@Matt_Gomez I can relate. Every time I phone I say "Hello, this is Mlle, this is NOT an emergency." Then they are relieved. #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:43:13 +0000
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mrjkindergarten@Matt_Gomez It has no effect on the classroom or teaching but it sends a poor message #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:43:13 +0000 2012
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tnprekteacher@mpowers3 I think so. Lots of low ses kids lack background experiences that mid/high ses kids have & seem behind their peers #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:43:23 +0000
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Kindergarten113@toys_r_texts So we need to be supportive and understanding. Remembering our goal do what is best for kids! #KinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:43:45 +0000
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MlleKathleen@Matt_Gomez I also have made a great effort this year to write positive notes in my students' agendas every week. #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:43:53 +0000 2012
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hechternachtRT @mpowers3: @tnprekteacher But is the only answer to cut the play time? Theres so much learning through play! #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:45:16 +0000 2012
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happycampergirlRT @hechternacht: @lyssareads @ryflinn what does that mean exactly? #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:45:31 +0000
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hechternacht@Kindergarten113 What is best for kids? #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:45:41 +0000 2012
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tnprekteacher@mpowers3 I agree but unfortunately many administrators aren't trained in dap & view play as not real work #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:46:29 +0000 2012
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MlleKathleen@Matt_Gomez Most parents do. #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:46:51 +0000 2012
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hechternachtRT @tnprekteacher: @mpowers3 I agree but unfortunately many administrators arent trained in dap & view play as not real work #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:47:14 +0000
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toys_r_texts@happycampergirl @mpowers3 @tnprekteacher play is a social justice issue--low SES schools are play-deprived. #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:47:36 +0000 2012
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davidweldridge@GailWells4 play and reading are not mutually exclusive, that's why so much play comes from traditional stories at start. #kinderchatTue, 14 Feb 2012 02:47:49 +0000
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happycampergirlRT @toys_r_texts: @happycampergirl @mpowers3 @tnprekteacher play is a social justice issue--low SES schools are play-deprived. #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:48:01 +0000 2012
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mrjkindergarten@Matt_Gomez You're right it is frustrating though! We have lots of half days and most kids don't show feels undervalued #kinderchatTue Feb 14 02:48:09 +0000 2012