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TimestampReviewerCigar NumberAppearance [Score]Appearance NotesAroma [Score]Aroma Notes1/3 Flavor [Score]1/3 Strength1/3 Body/Complexity1/3 Notes2/3 Flavor [Score]2/3 Strength2/3 Body/Complexity2/3 Notes3/3 Flavor [Score]3/3 Strength3/3 Body/Complexity3/3 NotesDraw [Score]Draw NotesBurn [Score]Burn NotesConstruction ScoreConstruction NotesOverall Experience [Score]Overall NotesSmoking timeAppearanceAromafirst 1first 2second 1second 2final 1final 2drawburnconst
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11/27/2017 10:28:45Ryan H. Ryan H.)69092.5"5x52 strange looking cap i would call it a belicoso. Minimal veins rolled very nicely very hard bunch" -<strong>Ryan H. </strong> (Ryan H.)87.5"Very weak aroma of milk chocolate." -<strong>Ryan H. </strong> (Ryan H.)92.5Medium-StrongMedium-Full"Medium plus. Flavors that can be identified are hay and weak coffee. Burn is razor through the first third and draw is near perfect. The cigar has a fair amount of nicotine so newbs beware" -<strong>Ryan H. </strong> (Ryan H.)90MediumMedium-Full"Into the second third the interesting thing about this cigar is the slow transition it is ever changing always something left from the last draw but also something new. The transition is at a snails pace, but constantly evolving into something diffrent. Flavors now being produced are mainly cedar with a minute light sweetness on the finish. A very mild spice almost non exsistant " -<strong>Ryan H. </strong> (Ryan H.)90MediumMedium"Spice is picking up in the last third a dull white pepper currently with some bland underlying combinations nothing i can pin point maybe all spice or graham cracker" -<strong>Ryan H. </strong> (Ryan H.)95"Draw was near perfect" -<strong>Ryan H. </strong> (Ryan H.)95"Burn was razor through out the entire smoke with no touch ups or even wavyness" -<strong>Ryan H. </strong> (Ryan H.)90"Construction was great with no identifiable flaws" -<strong>Ryan H. </strong> (Ryan H.)92.5"This is a very interesting cigar. It started out with some woody abrasiveness, but just a few draws in it transforms into a very complex maze. It has a astonishing combination of flavors. Definatly box worthy smoke. They did a great job." -<strong>Ryan H. </strong> (Ryan H.)90#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?
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12/5/2017 22:38:33Steve ThaGreatWazoo)69090"This was a nice looking torpedo cigar. There was a nice softer dark brown wrapper that had a few lines in it. A shorter vitola, but felt really nice in the hand." -<strong>Steve </strong> (ThaGreatWazoo)87.5"The aroma was decent. There was a nice mix of fresh grass and spice that was coupled by a slight walnut hint. The cold draw was crisp and very smooth." -<strong>Steve </strong> (ThaGreatWazoo)90Medium-StrongMedium-Full"The first third started a little slow. The initial few draws were very smooth, but towards the mild-medium side. As the cigar got burning, the strength picked up and the body began to develop. Heavy notes of oak and cedar were present in the profile and the aroma was very thick with burning wood. A few touchups were needed as the burn ran right away, but were quickly corrected." -<strong>Steve </strong> (ThaGreatWazoo)87.5MediumMedium"During the second third, the notes began to calm and almost taper off. The profile had a light cedar feel on the tongue mixed in with a crisp slight pepper note. The burn corrected out and the ash was thick and held on." -<strong>Steve </strong> (ThaGreatWazoo)87.5MediumMedium"The final third was quick and nice. A slight char began to develop, but was not overpowering. The profile held the cedar throughout and a bit more pepper came through. Not a bad finish, but nothing over-the-top." -<strong>Steve </strong> (ThaGreatWazoo)87.5"The draw seemed a little tight, but was manageable. I put it in the good category because it was not really a nuisance, but was not fully open." -<strong>Steve </strong> (ThaGreatWazoo)85"The burn was fair. The initial light up and first third showed a big run in the ash, but a touchup here and there corrected it out." -<strong>Steve </strong> (ThaGreatWazoo)87.5"The construction was good. Nothing fancy, just a nice clean cut and rolled cigar. Definitely had the mass produce feel to it, but was nice." -<strong>Steve </strong> (ThaGreatWazoo)87.5"Overall, this was a decent afternoon smoke. I enjoyed it, but really it did not leave any real memories with it. It was a good quick smoke that did not over-produce or overwhelm me. Perfect for a get together with the friends, but nothing to age or chase." -<strong>Steve </strong> (ThaGreatWazoo)51#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?
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12/10/2017 10:32:29Mickey T. irratebass)69087.5"A dark oak wood coloring on this belicoso shaped cigar. Firmly packed, tight invisible seams with no much in the vein department, however there is a crack from the foot to about an inch up the body. Hopefully this won't hinder my smoking experience., " -<strong>Mickey T. </strong> (irratebass)87.5"Fain manure smell on the body, and chocolate & wood on foot with a hint of manure. " -<strong>Mickey T. </strong> (irratebass)87.5MediumLight-Medium"Walnuts on the tongue right out of the gate. A really nice white ash is forming, and the cigar has transitioned into some sweetness in just the first couple of minutes the walnuts are no longer." -<strong>Mickey T. </strong> (irratebass)87.5MediumLight"A musty element begins in the second third. The sweetness has returned YAY! It's more of a honey flavor as opposed to just sweet tobacco. " -<strong>Mickey T. </strong> (irratebass)87.5MediumLight"Starting to have wrapper issues now in the beginning of the third. I'm getting some heavy wood flavors.Sweetness mixed with wood and coffee now. Can't go any further with it, the wrapper is falling off. " -<strong>Mickey T. </strong> (irratebass)87.5"Draw was a little more snug than I like, but it didn't cause any issues with my puffs. I still got plenty of smoke output." -<strong>Mickey T. </strong> (irratebass)90"The burn was actually pretty good considering the wrapper falling off in the third. I only had to retouch it up in the the third, so that was nice. " -<strong>Mickey T. </strong> (irratebass)85"Construction started out great, beautiful white ash throughout the smoke, which held on about an inch at a time. Then the wrapper started coming off and I just couldn't continue." -<strong>Mickey T. </strong> (irratebass)87.5"This was a good cigar that held my attention with all the transitions from wood to sweet honey. I could smoke more, just not sure I would buy any. " -<strong>Mickey T. </strong> (irratebass)105#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?
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12/10/2017 11:57:28John A. John A.)69085"Torpedo, Medium brown wrapper with visible seams and veins and foot damage. " -<strong>John A. </strong> (John A.)82.5"Almost nothing from the foot of the cigar except light leather. From the cold draw is only a slight woodsy flavor. Not a very aromatic blend. " -<strong>John A. </strong> (John A.)87.5MediumMedium"The initial puffs provide a fruity sweetness with a hint of char. As it smokes down it mellows out into a smooth leather and creamy concoction. " -<strong>John A. </strong> (John A.)90MediumMedium"Coming into the second third a rich spicy creaminess comes into play. This transitions into sweet licorice base with creaminess and eventually ends with a new shoe leather taste. " -<strong>John A. </strong> (John A.)87.5MediumMedium"Upon smoking the last third, cracks in the wrapper begin to develop. Flavors of sweet licorice and leather remain with lightly spiced tobacco on the retrohale. This cigar concludes with a thick creamy and peppery mix with a wrapper that continues to crack. " -<strong>John A. </strong> (John A.)92.5"No problems, slight too loose however. " -<strong>John A. </strong> (John A.)85"This stick had issues keeping a clean line. " -<strong>John A. </strong> (John A.)82.5"The wrapper appeared very fragile and prone to cracking, especially on the second half. " -<strong>John A. </strong> (John A.)87.5"Overall this cigar was “decent”. It wasn’t bad nor was it great. It had its moments where complexity peaked during the second third, but was flat before and after. While the flavor profiles were pleasant, this is a one and done for me. " -<strong>John A. </strong> (John A.)50#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?
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12/15/2017 20:45:51David F. dfafjf)69097.5"Beautiful looking cigar. Nice brown and slightly veiny wrapper. " -<strong>David F. </strong> (dfafjf)95"Nutty, dark chocolate, and earthy smells coming through both the foot and body of the cigar. Smells delicious! " -<strong>David F. </strong> (dfafjf)92.5MediumMedium"Slight spice coming through the retro hale but not very present in the body of the cigar yet. Leather, salt / peanut, and barnyard flavors present as this cigar starts out. After the first inch or so, a little bit of cream shows up. " -<strong>David F. </strong> (dfafjf)92.5MediumMedium"Pepper and spice slightly increases in the retro hale during the second 1/3 of the cigar. Flavors haven't change up much but still enjoyable. Earthy barnyard is forefront of the smoke. Salty nutty flavors start to take a backseat. Hints of dark black coffee appear. " -<strong>David F. </strong> (dfafjf)92.5MediumMedium"Still not much changes in the final 1/3. Barnyard, nutty flavors primarily present. Spice / pepper in the retro hale remains at a lite to medium level. I believe the spice present in the retro hale is my favorite aspect of the cigar so far. " -<strong>David F. </strong> (dfafjf)95"Very nice open draw. " -<strong>David F. </strong> (dfafjf)97.5"The burn line was very tight throughout the smoke. No need for any touch ups. " -<strong>David F. </strong> (dfafjf)85"I have no idea why but several small parts of the wrapper fell apart while smoking. The ash held tight for the first 1/2 of the cigar but starting falling quickly after that. " -<strong>David F. </strong> (dfafjf)90"The cigar had some nice flavor notes but somewhat one dimensional. I really enjoyed the flavors and pepper present in the retro hale throughout the cigar but not of lot of progression as I smoked through the cigar. Before lighting the cigar looked beautiful but sadly the wrapper fell apart shorting after. I do not believe this impacted the smoke other than the appearance. " -<strong>David F. </strong> (dfafjf)45#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?#NAME?
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Real Average90.5088.0090.006.305.9089.505.505.1089.005.504.7091.5090.5086.0089.0068.20
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Standard Deviation4.814.472.501.101.672.090.002.192.240.001.793.795.702.852.2427.36
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<h3>Initial Impressions</h3>Blind Cigar Review: Drew Estate | Pappy Van Winkle Tradition Belicoso Fino
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<h4>Appearance:<strong>89</strong></h4><h3>Cigar Info</h3>
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#NAME?<p style="text-align: center;font-size: 130%; line-height: 140%;">Vitola: <strong>Belicoso Fino</strong>
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<h4>Aroma:<strong>86</strong></h4>Length:<strong>5"</strong>
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#NAME?Ring Gauge:<strong>50</strong>
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<h3>First Third</h3>Country of Origin:<strong>Nicaragua</strong>
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<h4>Flavor:<strong>90</strong>Wrapper:<strong>Ecuadorian Habano Oscuro</strong>
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Strength:<strong>Medium-Strong</strong>Binder:<strong>Indonesia</strong>
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Body/Complexity:<strong>Medium-Full</strong></h4>Filler:<strong>Nicaraguan & Dominican Republic</strong>
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#NAME?Factory:<strong>La Gran Fabrica Drew Estate</strong>
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#NAME?Number of reviewers: <strong>5</strong>- <strong>Ryan H. </strong>(Ryan H.)<strong>Steve </strong>(ThaGreatWazoo)<strong>Mickey T. </strong>(irratebass)<strong>John A. </strong>(John A.)<strong>David F. </strong>(dfafjf)#VALUE!#VALUE!#VALUE!#VALUE!#VALUE!
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<h3>Second Third</h3>Price:<strong>$24.99</strong>
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<h4>Flavor:<strong>89</strong>Age:<strong></strong>
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Strength:<strong>Medium</strong>Release Date:<strong>September 2017</strong>
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Body/Complexity:<strong>Medium-Full</strong></h4>Contributed by:<strong>Drew Estate Cigars</strong></p>
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<h4>Flavor:<strong>88</strong>
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Strength:<strong>Medium</strong>
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Body/Complexity:<strong>Medium</strong></h4>
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<h4>Draw:<strong>92</strong></h4>
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<h4>Burn:<strong>91</strong></h4>
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<h4>Construction:<strong>85</strong></h4>
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<h4>Overall Strength:<strong>Medium-Strong</strong>
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Overall Body/Complexity:<strong>Medium-Full</strong>
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Experience Overall:<strong>88</strong></h4>
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"This is a very interesting cigar. It started out with some woody abrasiveness, but just a few draws in it transforms into a very complex maze. It has a astonishing combination of flavors. Definatly box worthy smoke. They did a great job." -<strong>Ryan H. </strong> (Ryan H.)<br />
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"Overall, this was a decent afternoon smoke. I enjoyed it, but really it did not leave any real memories with it. It was a good quick smoke that did not over-produce or overwhelm me. Perfect for a get together with the friends, but nothing to age or chase." -<strong>Steve </strong> (ThaGreatWazoo)<br />
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"This was a good cigar that held my attention with all the transitions from wood to sweet honey. I could smoke more, just not sure I would buy any. " -<strong>Mickey T. </strong> (irratebass)<br />
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"Overall this cigar was “decent”. It wasn’t bad nor was it great. It had its moments where complexity peaked during the second third, but was flat before and after. While the flavor profiles were pleasant, this is a one and done for me. " -<strong>John A. </strong> (John A.)<br />
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"The cigar had some nice flavor notes but somewhat one dimensional. I really enjoyed the flavors and pepper present in the retro hale throughout the cigar but not of lot of progression as I smoked through the cigar. Before lighting the cigar looked beautiful but sadly the wrapper fell apart shorting after. I do not believe this impacted the smoke other than the appearance. " -<strong>David F. </strong> (dfafjf)
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<h4>Smoking Time (in minutes):<strong>59</strong></h4>
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11/27/2017 10:28:45Ryan H. (Ryan H.)690Great5x52 strange looking cap i would call it a belicoso. Minimal veins rolled very nicely very hard bunchGoodVery weak aroma of milk chocolate.GreatMedium-StrongMedium-FullMedium plus. Flavors that can be identified are hay and weak coffee. Burn is razor through the first third and draw is near perfect. The cigar has a fair amount of nicotine so newbs bewareVery GoodMediumMedium-FullInto the second third the interesting thing about this cigar is the slow transition it is ever changing always something left from the last draw but also something new. The transition is at a snails pace, but constantly evolving into something diffrent. Flavors now being produced are mainly cedar with a minute light sweetness on the finish. A very mild spice almost non exsistant Very GoodMediumMediumSpice is picking up in the last third a dull white pepper currently with some bland underlying combinations nothing i can pin point maybe all spice or graham crackerExcellentDraw was near perfectExcellentBurn was razor through out the entire smoke with no touch ups or even wavynessVery GoodConstruction was great with no identifiable flawsGreatThis is a very interesting cigar. It started out with some woody abrasiveness, but just a few draws in it transforms into a very complex maze. It has a astonishing combination of flavors. Definatly box worthy smoke. They did a great job.90
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12/5/2017 22:38:33Steve (ThaGreatWazoo)690Very GoodThis was a nice looking torpedo cigar. There was a nice softer dark brown wrapper that had a few lines in it. A shorter vitola, but felt really nice in the hand.GoodThe aroma was decent. There was a nice mix of fresh grass and spice that was coupled by a slight walnut hint. The cold draw was crisp and very smooth.Very GoodMedium-StrongMedium-FullThe first third started a little slow. The initial few draws were very smooth, but towards the mild-medium side. As the cigar got burning, the strength picked up and the body began to develop. Heavy notes of oak and cedar were present in the profile and the aroma was very thick with burning wood. A few touchups were needed as the burn ran right away, but were quickly corrected.GoodMediumMediumDuring the second third, the notes began to calm and almost taper off. The profile had a light cedar feel on the tongue mixed in with a crisp slight pepper note. The burn corrected out and the ash was thick and held on.GoodMediumMediumThe final third was quick and nice. A slight char began to develop, but was not overpowering. The profile held the cedar throughout and a bit more pepper came through. Not a bad finish, but nothing over-the-top.GoodThe draw seemed a little tight, but was manageable. I put it in the good category because it was not really a nuisance, but was not fully open.FairThe burn was fair. The initial light up and first third showed a big run in the ash, but a touchup here and there corrected it out.GoodThe construction was good. Nothing fancy, just a nice clean cut and rolled cigar. Definitely had the mass produce feel to it, but was nice.GoodOverall, this was a decent afternoon smoke. I enjoyed it, but really it did not leave any real memories with it. It was a good quick smoke that did not over-produce or overwhelm me. Perfect for a get together with the friends, but nothing to age or chase.51
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12/10/2017 10:32:29Mickey T. (irratebass)690GoodA dark oak wood coloring on this belicoso shaped cigar. Firmly packed, tight invisible seams with no much in the vein department, however there is a crack from the foot to about an inch up the body. Hopefully this won't hinder my smoking experience., GoodFain manure smell on the body, and chocolate & wood on foot with a hint of manure. GoodMediumLight-MediumWalnuts on the tongue right out of the gate. A really nice white ash is forming, and the cigar has transitioned into some sweetness in just the first couple of minutes the walnuts are no longer.GoodMediumLightA musty element begins in the second third. The sweetness has returned YAY! It's more of a honey flavor as opposed to just sweet tobacco. GoodMediumLightStarting to have wrapper issues now in the beginning of the third. I'm getting some heavy wood flavors.Sweetness mixed with wood and coffee now. Can't go any further with it, the wrapper is falling off. GoodDraw was a little more snug than I like, but it didn't cause any issues with my puffs. I still got plenty of smoke output.Very GoodThe burn was actually pretty good considering the wrapper falling off in the third. I only had to retouch it up in the the third, so that was nice. FairConstruction started out great, beautiful white ash throughout the smoke, which held on about an inch at a time. Then the wrapper started coming off and I just couldn't continue.GoodThis was a good cigar that held my attention with all the transitions from wood to sweet honey. I could smoke more, just not sure I would buy any. 105
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12/10/2017 11:57:28John A. (John A.)690FairTorpedo, Medium brown wrapper with visible seams and veins and foot damage. SubparAlmost nothing from the foot of the cigar except light leather. From the cold draw is only a slight woodsy flavor. Not a very aromatic blend. GoodMediumMediumThe initial puffs provide a fruity sweetness with a hint of char. As it smokes down it mellows out into a smooth leather and creamy concoction. Very GoodMediumMediumComing into the second third a rich spicy creaminess comes into play. This transitions into sweet licorice base with creaminess and eventually ends with a new shoe leather taste. GoodMediumMediumUpon smoking the last third, cracks in the wrapper begin to develop. Flavors of sweet licorice and leather remain with lightly spiced tobacco on the retrohale. This cigar concludes with a thick creamy and peppery mix with a wrapper that continues to crack. GreatNo problems, slight too loose however. FairThis stick had issues keeping a clean line. SubparThe wrapper appeared very fragile and prone to cracking, especially on the second half. GoodOverall this cigar was “decent”. It wasn’t bad nor was it great. It had its moments where complexity peaked during the second third, but was flat before and after. While the flavor profiles were pleasant, this is a one and done for me. 50
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12/15/2017 20:45:51David F. (dfafjf)690ExtraordinaryBeautiful looking cigar. Nice brown and slightly veiny wrapper. ExcellentNutty, dark chocolate, and earthy smells coming through both the foot and body of the cigar. Smells delicious! GreatMediumMediumSlight spice coming through the retro hale but not very present in the body of the cigar yet. Leather, salt / peanut, and barnyard flavors present as this cigar starts out. After the first inch or so, a little bit of cream shows up. GreatMediumMediumPepper and spice slightly increases in the retro hale during the second 1/3 of the cigar. Flavors haven't change up much but still enjoyable. Earthy barnyard is forefront of the smoke. Salty nutty flavors start to take a backseat. Hints of dark black coffee appear. GreatMediumMediumStill not much changes in the final 1/3. Barnyard, nutty flavors primarily present. Spice / pepper in the retro hale remains at a lite to medium level. I believe the spice present in the retro hale is my favorite aspect of the cigar so far. ExcellentVery nice open draw. Close to PerfectThe burn line was very tight throughout the smoke. No need for any touch ups. FairI have no idea why but several small parts of the wrapper fell apart while smoking. The ash held tight for the first 1/2 of the cigar but starting falling quickly after that. Very GoodThe cigar had some nice flavor notes but somewhat one dimensional. I really enjoyed the flavors and pepper present in the retro hale throughout the cigar but not of lot of progression as I smoked through the cigar. Before lighting the cigar looked beautiful but sadly the wrapper fell apart shorting after. I do not believe this impacted the smoke other than the appearance. 45
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