Archive of Dermatology Applicant Spreadsheet, 2015-2016
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# rotators (including you)?
Did you get a LORDid you get an interview?EMR
Include things like did you shadow or did you get to see patients first, was there a test at the end, did you have to give a presentation, etcThis is probably the most important question for future students, so please answer
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ARUAMSGet to rotate at all the sites with all the faculty. Residents are laid back. You get to do a ton especially at the VA. This rotation let me do the most by far of all my derm rotations. 2 home+ 3 awaysThey interviewed us all while on rotation. Epic
AZMayo Clinic College of Medicine (Arizona) ProgramAwesome. Lots of shadowing, but that is common in derm. Great teaching. Expected to give a presentation at grand rounds and to take a ~100 question exam at the end of the rotation based on a 400 pg derm book that they expect you to read/study during your time. You'll learn a lot and taste the Mayo Clinic culture. | phrasing2didn't ask, YesYes, they interview all rotators WHILE ON ROTATION (you don't have to fly back in January). <-- Do they do this for all rotators?Yes, Cerner
University of Arizona
CAUniversity of California (Irvine) ProgramCombo of shadowing + seeing patients first and filling out PE findings. Three different sites - one in Orange, CA, one in Irvine, CA and one in Long Beach CA. The coordinator tries to minimize driving, but you still drive around a lot. No test at the end. Attendings vary on friendliness. Get to observe some surgeries and laser clinic. This year most rotators did not get an interview, and all of the students who rotated with me were very smart and qualified. Red flag; do not rotate here....doesnt help at all to get an interview.... | no preference to rotators for interviews4didn't ask x 2No (I heard most rotators did not get an interview) x 4. RED FLAG! x5 they said only 10-20% of rotators end up getting interviews; no preference given to rotatorsNo (but is in the workswould not recommend a rotation here x6
StanfordPretty competitve to get. they only take 4 outside rotators a year. you have to give a grand rounds presentation. amazing faculty and facilities. hours are moderate (7 30 to 6 ish) get to see patients on your own and do procedures. you are a focus of attention, you never share clinic with the other med student. Everyone is nice, no aggresive pimping like i experienced on east coast. Decent odds for getting a residency spot if you get this rotation. they usually take at least one rotator each year. | when did you apply for aways? same time as most aways whenver VSAS opens. I think around june? (just checked the link on the website and it says apply by March 2016 askyy
University of California (San Diego) Program
Loma Linda University Program
Kaiser Permanente Southern California (Los Angeles) Programanyone?
UCLA (Reagan)There are 3 different rotations at UCLA: outpatient clinic, derm surg, consult derm. All 3 will give you exposure to clinic, residents, didactics, etc., but the outpt clinic probably offers the most faculty facetime. The derm surg people are awesome, but simply less hands on. Consult sees interesting cases and work closely with one resident and the inpatient attending. All 3 are 8-5ish and there's definitely overlap between them. Most of the rotation you are in Westwood. - I agree with the above comment. Overall the rotation was a stellar educational experience but is by no means a guarantee for an interview. I was a very good applicant with a great rotation (2 LORs, case reports, etc) but I was not offered an interview. I would recommend rotating somewhere that using the experience as more of an audition which will increase the likelihood of an interview. | I think the above info was written a couple years ago but it still holds true this year. Best hours on derm surg > outpatient derm > consult. Definitely the most contact with faculty on outpatient.| I would like to echo what was said about rotating not being a great place here in regards to getting an interview. Also had a great rotation (was even told by a faculty i would get an interview) and am a good appilicant (received most top 10 invites including another top 10 place i did an away) and did not get an interview. I read about the same thing happening to another applciant as above but thought it wouldnt happen to me... would not have rotatated here knowing this now obviously. rotators beware, save yourself the energy, money (3k for me), and time and rotate somewhere else where you are more likely to get an interview for rotating5 (3 outpt clinic, 1 derm surg, 1 consults), can get crowded at times.- 2 LORNo x 5Yes, Epic
University of Southern California (USC)Rotate through peds at CHLA, surgery at Keck and county, consult, gen derm x2 weeks at county. Very hands-on, nice attendings and residents, will be helpful if you speak Spanish because about 50% of pts are Spanish speaking only (no English). 5 min presentation and small quiz at the end. | Highly recommended. Clinic is very high volume. Mostly faculty-led lectures 2 half days/week. Learned a lot, loved the spirit of this program, would be ecstatic to match there. Everyone was very down to earth. 6YesNot all rotators get interviews x2Yes
UC DavisGet exposure to a bunch of faculty. Spend most of time at main clinic site. Shadow vs seeing patient first attending-specific. No test. 15 min presentation at end on topic of your choice. Some faculty members reached out to rotators/were very encouraging. Very nice residents. Observe some surgeries and cosmetics.  *Agreed with above. I rotated this year and had a very similar experience. The faculty and residents are very nice and definitely reach out to rotators, and I think there are ample chances to get to know the faculty well. They really take an interest in you if you demonstrate interest in the program and there are many opportunities to get published if you want to pick up a project (case report, review paper) there. You can also request to have more clinic time with specific attendings if you have a particular interest or are looking to get LOR out of it. In general very friendly atmosphere, house staff such as nurses etc frequently socialize with the residents and even rotators are invited to go out and eat lunch, etc with the residents. | Can get a letter fairly easily but few big name faculty that will carry significant weight with other programs4YesYesdon't give you acess to EMR - no note writing responsibilities - but they use EPIC
University of California (San Francisco) ProgramWill see and learn a lot. Rotations are 2 wks (can complete 2 for a total of 4 wks). First 2 wks are general - rotate through a variety of half-day clinics at Mt. Zion location. Second 2 weeks are in a subspecialty (location and exposure to faculty vary). Get a lot of exposure to faculty but are often shadowing residents (except in gen derm clinics). Hard to show what you know. Many faculty seemed aloof, and I felt that none had a chance to get to know me. Residents were nice but busy. Resident-faculty interaction hard to characterize; residents refer to many (but not all) of the faculty by first name. However, there is still a clear hierarchical structure and I felt that many of the faculty did not know the residents well. Grand rounds felt somewhat intense (for derm). Didactics were really strong -- loved that there was a faculty-led lecture every single morning. Expected to give a short presentation with a 1-page handout at end of rotation (this was low-key w/ just 1 faculty and other rotators present). There is also an exam covering the AAD modules. Need a letter from your home department's chair in order to apply.3 external, several internalNo (didn't ask)No (seems that majority of rotators are not offered an interview)Epic at Mt. Zion
Los Angeles County-Harbor-UCLA Medical Center ProgramGreat program, residents seemed happy.  Has a tight knit group feeling.  Interesting pathology given that it is a county hospital.   Great hands on experience and not just shadowing.  Their faculty and residents all trained at strong medical schools and/or residencies2Yes (other people who interviewed also rotated there)Orchid
COUniversity of Colorado ProgramGreat program, residents seemed happy there. Very diverse group of residents. Some friendly, some not so much (as is expected anywhere). Be sure to rotate at the VA. Main attending there very student-friendly! No test at the end. Opportunities to see patients first and do small research projects. / Echo what the above said plus - lots of opportunities to get invovled with research. Lots of hands on and independent experience. We had a test at the end, but it was easy <- Not everyone has to take the test. It depends on what your school wants from the program or how you setup the away./ Took a very easy test at the end. Spent most of time at the VA - very hands on. Also spent a two days at pediatric dermatology. My experience was that the residents were a little less rotator-aware than at some of my other rotations - not unfriendly, though. Need a car to get around. <> also a good applicant (received several top 10 interviews including another place i rotated at) but did not get interview here (happened to many others too as per chitchat). its pretty hard to do a "good" job while rotating as there are lots of other rotators and not really much opportunity to show off your knowledge. Good hands on experience. Wouldnt recommend overall though as the whole point is to get an interview out of these rotations.4YesYes (most outside rotators did not); no x3EPIC<-- How do you know that many outside rotators do not? was told by their faculty
CTUniversity of Connecticut ProgramNewer program that accepts 4 students for a 4 week clinic rotation that has high volume. Very hands on clinical rotation in dermatology where you get to see patients first, scribe a note, and present and work with many different attendings. Residents seemed fairly happy with dedicated education time and department leadership. Rotation includes 5 full days of clinic in addition to 2 nights of evening clinic per week from 545- 9 pm. Expect to give a lecture during your rotation to attendings and residents regarding a topic of your choosing. Wouldn't recommend rotating there if you're expecting a high likelihood of interview or letter of recommendation as an external rotator as was told that only 1/3 of rotators are selected for interview. Expect an end of rotation exam which is mainly mult choice.4nox2no (majority rotators get no interview)Paper
Yale-New Haven Medical Center Programanyone?EPIC
DCGeorge Washington University School of Medicine ProgramAll shadowing. test at the end. Peds clinic in another hospital once a week, surgery clinic once a week. 1nopaper
Howard University Program
Washington Hospital Center Program 4x1 week rotations on different services. Options include melanoma, 2 inpatient consult services, surgery, peds etc. (assigned you don't get to pick) All staffed by different attendings, which may make it harder to get a LOR. Lots of cool specialty clinics including neurofibromatosis, rheum/derm, CTCL, ECP etc. Residents are nice and helpful. Lots of hands-on learning. Get to see your own consults/patients and write the note except the A/P. Lots of research projects you can ask to get involved in. Have to read Lookingbill and Marks for test at the end (50 MCQ and 30-ish kodachromes) and present an interesting case (very short, 5-10 min max) to the entire department. NIH grand rounds every other week which are great. Minimal contact with chair/PD is the only downside. Parking is free at hospital center but at georgetown you pay full price (~$20/day). Many rotators didn't have a car and did fine with DC's public transportation.4noyeskind of strange - there is something like 4 seperate EMRs plus some parts of the hospitals use paper charts.
FLUniversity of Florida Program
Depending on when you rotate, you could be on the rotation with 7-8 students though generally you will work with one resident and one attending. The experience is what you want it to be. There were some rotators who did nothing and they were not asked to do anything. There were other students who were very enthusiastic and they let them do a ton of biopsies. While they may let you do biopsies, you will still only be shadowing. There are lectures once a week for half a day and this is where you can show off your knowledge because you will get pimped. There are also ground rounds every Friday. The secret to doing well is not just impressing the attendings and chiefs but the PG-Y2s. Their vote counts a lot because they are the ones who will be your chief.
Mayo Clinic College of Medicine (Jacksonville) Program
Jackson Memorial Hospital/Jackson Health System ProgramReally nice residents. You shadow with 3-4 other students all the time. Some faculty do teaching, but most of the time learning only comes from lectures. You get kicked out of clinic if there are too many people. Hard to get LOR. Grand rounds have interesting zebra cases, but faculty tend to argue a lot during grand rounds. It feels like it almost hurts you to do an away here. I rotated with 3 other students, none of us got an interview. All competitive applicants, normal and social people.8-10 (home students, rotators, research fellows, international visitors (many of them!))NoNo x3
University of South Florida Morsani Program
GAEmory University ProgramGreat place to rotate! Rotate at all of the facilities (Emory Clinic, VA, Emory Hospitals, CHOA, Grady) with every faculty member that will decide your ranks. Good mix of shadowing and autonomy. Sometimes work one-on-one with faculty. You schedule interviews with each faculty member while on the rotation, which is nice because it means you don't have to come back. Have to do a presentation at the end of the rotation which isn't too hard (5-10 ppt slides). [on my rotation we did not do presentations] Not sure about LOR since did it after submitting ERAS. Parking is like 80 a month in one lot, then extra at Grady county hospital (5 dollars a day). Definitely need a car. | Agree with above comments. Worked one-on-one with faculty 30-40% of the time. This is an incredible program full of genuine people who love dermatology4YesYes - all rotators interview with all faculty members while on rotation (do not have to travel back for an interview)Several depending on clinic site (PowerChart, Epic,
Medical College of Georgia ProgramMain attending is the nicest person you will ever meet and teaches a lot, you attend clinic at the main hospital and at the VA, presentation and quiz at the end (both are very easy and laid back), attend grand rounds and morning didactics as well as dermpath. Great rotation with nice faculty and residents, but VERY small program (ie, two attendings total, although they are working to hire more faculty so hopefully will grow soon). High volume of patients with wide range of diagnoses, students get to do biopsies and excisions with the residents, 1 week of Mohs (Mohs society trained, not fellowship-trained, so complicated closures are sent to plastics). You will learn a lot and find yourself loving being there. All of the above comments are still true, except they've added a third attending. Residents and faculty are super nice. You'll work closely with the three main attendings. They're now allowing MCG 3rd year students on the rotation, so it may seem like a lot of students, but there are plenty of patients to go around. You're interviewed by all three main attendings at the end of the rotation, and it's super laid back. 3 (4 MS4 and 2 MS3)Yes (Didn't ask, but would have easily gotten one)The rotation counts as your interview; there is a dinner in February for all rotators (optional, very casual). Still true.PowerChart but students don't write notes. New attending will let you write notes if you want, but not expected.
IAUniversity of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics Program
ILJohn H Stroger Hospital of Cook County Program
McGaw Medical Center of Northwestern University Programlots of students and research fellows around; 4 students on the clinical derm and 1 on advanced (consult service) when I was there. Clinical derm students have lectures and get exposed to many attendings, give short 5 min case presentation at the end. Advanced derm is just one attending but he's amazing, you give a grand rounds talk at the end. There's a test at the end of the rotation for everyone.5NoNot all rotators get an interview
Rush University Medical Center Program
University of Chicago ProgramYou get to rotate with all of the faculty members (except peds/Mohs). Faculty members have very different personalities (all are great to work with), and they all like to teach. Residents are really friendly/easy to get along with. There are dedicated med student lectures given by residents. Depending on the attending and if the clinic is running on time, you may or may not get to see the patient before the resident. Great mix of complex and common disorders. Only accept visiting students for two-week rotations2NoYes (not all rotators get an interview)Epic
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Program
Loyola University Program
Southern Illinois University ProgramAttendings very nice and laid back.
INIndiana University School of Medicine ProgramFantastic rotation: the med students see patients first at most clinics except at the VA where med student staff with faculty, and at the VA, med students get to do cryo/shaves/punches on their patients. There are dedicated med student lectures given by residents and attendings. Quiz at the the end, optional presentation; Program tends to highly value AOA and being top of the class in terms of matching with them. Probably my most difficult rotation, but also my favorite. You see patients first, write your own notes (several EMRs), and do all of your own procedures at the VA. You attend journal club (expected to present an article), attend book club, and you might get to go to dermpath if there are enough scopes. You'll bounce between the University hospital, the public hospital, VA, and the children's hospital. You get to spend a day in Melanoma clinic and another day in CTCL clinic. Cool program with friendly residents, tons of faculty, and a great city. Challenging rotation but also fun. 4 going into derm, 2 non-derm MS4's (there were plenty of patients, so it did not seem crowded). 2 aways and 1 home student.Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Rotated here and did not get an interview FWIW3 different EMRs (med student are expected to write notes for all patients they see)
KSUniversity of Kansas School of Medicine ProgramVery laid back rotation, attendings all very nice. Residents were a bright spot. PD is a little weird, but very nice. Young attendings are very knowledgeable and have boards-relevant teaching.  <-- THANK YOU :) The first year residents are super friendly! 99% shadowing. The residents are all happy and fun to be around. 2 rotators; 2 awaysYes; YesYes; YesEpic at KU
KYUniversity of Louisville Program
LALouisiana State University ProgramLaid back, everyone's nice, just moved to brand new clinic/hospital in NOLAEpic
Tulane University ProgramVery laid back rotation, attendings and residents super nice, you see patients on your own for almost all clinics, write your own notes because a lot of clinics are paper charts, and the patients are nice and patient. Would highly recommend this rotation. They interview all rotators. <--Disagree with the above comment. There is such small volume seen there...there would be days where I see 4-5 patients all day long. Didactics are poor. --> agree with above statement: attendings are young, catty women. Was not a fan. | I was the original writer of the above statement and after doing more rotations I would agree with the statements saying that I was wrong about the didactics. Definitely small volume there and small depth of faculty, but the faculty were very professional and were good teachers. Would not use the word "catty" at all.1-4 rotators?Yes
MABoston University Medical Center Programno one? c'mon! ; Mostly shadowing, some attendings let you do more. Sometimes you go into room with a resident and get to present to the attending
Harvard CombinedAmazing program and rotation. Required presentation, no test. See patients and do notes on our own. Residents and faculty love to teach. LONG hours (~7 to anywhere between 6 to 10 pm): MGH>=Brigham>>BI>>>>Children. | Rotated at Brigham over the summer. It was a superb rotation- great teaching, nice atmosphere, and nice exposure to a lot of Derm. Cosmetic clinic in Chestnut hill was cool; clinic at Dana Farber Cancer Institute was second to none. Definitely a big gun program. | I did advanced medical dermatology over the summer. One of the best rotations I've ever done--really fun, a variety of clinics, inpt/oupt mix and customized. Clerkship director is super cool and accomodating.6 M3 and M4s (internal and external), some M2s but they only shadow. | Similar distribution when I was there this summer. | For Advanced med derm they have others rotating but doesn't affect you much.YesNo x2 | Advanced Med Derm = YesEPIC
Tufts Medical Center Program2No (didn't ask)Yes (not all rotators get an interview)eCW, but visiting students don't get access
University of Massachusetts ProgramCool Rotation; nice residents and faculty. Presentation required at the end of rotation (10-15min). Reasonable hours, consults (if any) at the end of the day. See your own patients with some attendings/residents; otherwise shadowing with others. Multiple campuses, but mainly at 1 or 2 during the week. Daily didactics; lots of exposure. Small program. Very academic.Usually 2 students per month.
MDJohns Hopkins University Program
University of Maryland Program
MIUniversity of Michigan Program10 minute presentation on topic of your choice at the end.  100% shadowing - only was allowed to inject lidocaine sometimes.  Seems like residents get an excellent education
MIWayne State University School of Medicine Program
MIHenry Ford Hospital/Wayne State University ProgramHighly recommended. You rotate with many attendings, and they are good about making sure you rotate with the Chair and other influential attendings. You write notes, get feedback, and participate in procedures. Seeing patients on your own is physician-dependent. They also have a "rotator clinic" where you see patients on your own and are staffed by a third year resident; this is your time to shine! You will have to give a 5 minute presentation on a topic of your choosing and take a 50 question exam.4 or 5YesYesEPIC
MNUniversity of Minnesota ProgramMust do a presentation on on a derm research topic at the end. Mostly shadow though at the end some faculty would allow seeing patients on your own. Most residents are nice except a few who are a bit snarky 2-3 (internal and external)YesYesEPIC
Mayo Clinic College of Medicine (Rochester) ProgramMostly shadowing - able to see some pts on my own and present depending on the person. No note writing. Follow a different attending or senior resident each morning and afternoon (made it very hard to ask for a LOR). Very short case presentation at the end. Everyone was very nice and welcoming.Just me at the time | 3 - 4YesYes (not all rotators) Synthesis | will change to Epic by 2017
MOUniversity of Missouri-Columbia Program
St Louis University School of Medicine Program
Washington University/B-JH/SLCH Consortium Programanyone? Coordinator is not friendly at all. / I really enjoyed my rotation here! You have to be self motivated to get a project/case report, but you totally can. Faculty are very nice. The rotation is all shadowing, but you can shine if you try.
MSUniversity of Mississippi School of Medicine Program
NCUniversity of North Carolina Hospitals ProgramMostly shadowing. The resident sees the patient by themselves and you will then hear them present to the attending and come into the room with the attending. You do miss most of the history taking since you won't be in the room then. Very diverse facutly so plenty of people to interact with. Mohs surgeons are extremely nice. There is a test at the end. No presentation.
Duke University Hospital Programanyone?
Vidant Medical Center/East Carolina University Program
Wake Forest University School of Medicine ProgramHighly recommend. You get to work alongside attendings and see patients and present to them. You can also work the schedule out individually to work with specific attendings more frequently. Many of the clinics you work in won't have a resident so you can get plenty of facetime. I was able to get three very strong LORs. Most attendings also have research ongoing that you can join while there with rapid turnover of papers. 10 minute presentation at the end. No test. 4Yes (not all rotators get an interview)
NHDartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center ProgramMostly shadowing, you have to push to see pts on your own and present. Not a lot of opportunity to really shine unless you are very proactive.1didn't askEpic
NJCooper Medical School of Rowan University/Cooper University Hospital ProgramMostly shadowing. Lots of teaching. No test or presentation. Lots of oppertunities to work on publications with residents and faculty.1YesEMA
Rutgers New Jersey Medical School ProgramAmple opportunities for publications (especially with the chair, Dr. RA Schwartz) of rapid turnover papers, such as lit reviews, case reports, etc. You see patients together with the residents and you may see a few patients alone first but this will depend solely on your resident. You can also get to participate in procedures, but again this depends on your resident as they do all the procedures (except for treatment of rhinophyma)2YesYes
Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson Medical School Program
NMUniversity of New Mexico ProgramResidents are overworked and unhappy. Not enough faculty. Only 3 faculty at UNM, which includes the chair who doesn't do much. Just lost program director who did most of the teaching. None of the faculty teach residents, they are responsible for their own education. Volitile environment with rapid turnover. Minimal nurse/staff support. I would avoid until they are more stable. Have a feeling other faculty are unhappy and want to or will leave in next year or so. 3no. didn't ask.Probably won't interview if offeredPowerChart/Cerner
NYAlbert Einstein College of Medicine ProgramMostly shadowing, good residents will give you opportunities to present. In the four weeks there, you'll see maybe 3 or 4 different attendings at best. Some days you're going between two sites so you're barely grabbing lunch while on the shuttle/uber. No opportunity to see how procedural derm/MOHs is done. There was 1 half day with Dr. Cohen so it's impossible to really leave an impression on the PD/Dept chair. One five minute case/topic presentation at end. 4 rotators + 2 homeno. didn't ask.YesEPIC
SUNY Downstate2 rotators+2 home students
University at Buffalo School of Medicine Program
North Shore-Long Island Jewish Health System ProgramAttendings and residents are amazing! Extremely kind and make you feel part of the team. Great elective--lots of opportunities to work up patients on your own. Great consult exposure. Little procedure participation. Car required. Agreed with above, add in that at end of rotation you can have a one on one meeting with Dr. Garg just to chat about your experience and what you'd like moving forward. Fantastic inpatient/consult service. There's a case/topic presentation given at the end. Dr. Daly and Dr. Garg are both wonderful and this program is going to be strong in the near future. 1 + some FM/IM residents at timesNoYesAllScripts
Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai ProgramMainly shadowing although 1-2 faculty let students help with procedures. Very little exposure to chair and other big faculty. As per residents there and internal rotators spots at the program seemed to be all decided ahead of time (reseach fellows etc) so seemed like a waste for rotators time hoping to increase their chances of matching here unless you have a big connection there already. <> Spots are literally all promised ahead of time, you will receive a guaranteed interview for rotating here but there is no chance to match. | This is definitely not true. I know for a fact that you can match with no connections other than doing a visiting rotation. The program has increased in size quite a bit and is up to 10 residents/yr now so there are more spots than fellows. Definitely don't recommend for getting a letter though as 1-on-1 exposure to big wigs is limited.4NoYes
New York Presbyterian Hospital (Columbia Campus) Program
New York Presbyterian Hospital (Cornell Campus) ProgramJust shadowing, recommend doing elsewhere. | Shawdowing is common for derm aways, most rotators get interviews, I would recommend it. Attendings and residents are extremely nice and welcoming, they are used to having rotators. It is predominately shadowing at their Cornell campus clinic, but Wildman let a few people do shave biopsies, and some residents/attendings let students cryo. Working in their Lincoln Hospital (Bronx) Clinic was also great, fast-paced, get to pop in and out of rooms with different residents so you are seeing many more patients than in a normal clinic shawdowing one resident/attending. 10 min presentation is expected. | Did rotation here, was a two weeker. I felt like it was way overcrowded to the point that there wasn't sufficient space for all the rotators (8 rotators at once). On several occasions my clinic was cancelled and I wasn't informed. Was told only a couple days before presenting that there was a required presentation. I felt as if they didn't care much about the rotators. The place had a very stuffy vibe about it, the chair in particular. I very much regret doing the rotation, especially since most people I spoke to previously recommended I do an away elsewhere. I wish I heeded their advice.8 (6-8)YesYes
New York University School of Medicine Program
New York Medical College (Metropolitan) Program
University of Rochester Program
SUNY at Stony Brook Programjust shadowing. optional presentation and online exam at the end if you wish to be eligible for honors
OHUniversity of Cincinnati Medical Center/College of Medicine ProgramOnly the first year and second year residents interact with students. Shadowing. Some procedures depending on resident. Presentation and examination at the end. <> Chairman/Program director is very unpleasant and condescending. He's also married to one of the residents and gives a lot of special treatment. The rest of the faculty are basically fine but a PD like that is a big red flag to me.4NoNo one on my rotation didEPIC
Case Western Reserve University/University Hospitals Case Medical Center ProgramOptional presentation at the end. Quiz. Only a few of residents/faculty teach very much. Mostly shadowing.5 (mix of internal and external)Don't ask the chairman for a letter, he only writes them for Case studentsNo
Cleveland Clinic Foundation ProgramOptional presentation at the end. Assessment quiz at beginning and end. (not sure how much it matters for eval). Very crowded clinics. Faculty and residnets are kind of mean and ignore you. You only get to shadow. There is a free housing option available (in the call rooms)Many, 2 outside, 1-2 CCF/CW M3 and M4, NP studentsYesYes, NoEPIC
MetroHealth Medical Center/Case Western Reserve University Program
Ohio State University Hospital Program
Wright State University ProgramAll shadowing. pretty even split between the VA and the main clinic. Quiz at the end. Nothing too remarkable.2no (didn't ask)yes
OKUniversity of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center Program
OROregon Health & Science University ProgramPresentation at the end + ungraded quiz. Mostly shadowing. Faculty and residents very nice, but not a lot of teaching. Not everyone does.EPIC, CPRS (at VA)
PAGeisinger Health System Program
Penn State Milton S Hershey Medical Center Program
Drexelsuper nice residents. let you see and present new patients. also let you do some procedures if they know you're interested in derm. otherwise standard shadowing. easy schedule too
Thomas Jefferson University Program
University of Pennsylvania Program
UPMC Medical Education Program
PRUniversity of Puerto Rico Program
RIBrown University ProgramFantastic rotation! Very hands-on, good teaching, Get to see your own patients, do your own shave/biopsy/injections, and do your own consults. Faculty and residnets are all on first-name basis. Not on VSAS, but the application is easy and coordinators super friendly and helpful. The department chair, PD and elective director are all very nice and helpful. | Residents are super nice| All rotators this cycle (~5) were interviewed this year (not many were lucky to get a rotoator spot)1 outside, 2 M3/M4/FM or IM residentYesYesYes
Roger Williams Medical Center Program
SCMedical University of South Carolina ProgramExtremely hands on. You will work mostly at the VA but you get to see patients on your own and then present to either the resident or attending. You can build more independence as the rotation goes on. At the VA, the residents will also let you perform most of the biopsies and help with minor excisions if you feel comfortable. They are all extremely friendly and helpful. I highly recommend this rotation- much less shadowing than many of the other programs I rotated through. Laid back rotation. Lots of impressive faculty. Dermpath is incredible here with Elston. One day of Mohs surgery. Amount of procedures you get to do depends on your resident. Will attend lectures and journal club but you're not expected to present anything. Easy quiz and presentation at the end.3/4/2015. 2 aways, 1 home student not going into derm.Yes. Didn't ask.Yes. From what I've heard about 50% of rotators get interviews in the past, but the new program director/clerkship director is really cool, so it might be above 50% now.You won't write notes at the university clinic, but you can write VA notes if you have access.
TNUniversity of Tennessee Program
Vanderbilt University ProgramI got to see my own patients for the majority of the rotation, especially at the VA. They'll let you do biopsies too. The residents were all very relaxed and down to earth. Overall a great rotation! Highly recommend this rotation! Students wrote notes at the 100 Oaks Clinic and at the VA once the residents had logged in. We got to do some biopsies at the VA. Well organized and learned a ton!2 outside; 4 aways, 1 home M3Yes; Yes and from what I understand all rotators were invited back to interview.
TXUniversity of Texas Southwestern Medical School (Austin) Program95% shadowing, lots of driving in between sites, no computer login/note writing, residents let you present pts to attendings, attendings and residents very laid back and friendly, you do a 15 min presentation on topic of your choice at the end of the rotation and also have a small easy test. Do not do this rotation before dean's letter is in because they do not take the time to write flowery evals. Was a great learning experience because they give you student/faculty lectures weekly and you will get pimped, and you will learn a ton. Residents are very nice and smart. Also you participate in journal club, 1x/month.2 rotators; think about doing a peds derm rotation (go through peds department and let the derm dept know you are a derm applicant once you are accepted through VSAS) if slots are filled for regular derm and you want to rotate here because you are still with derm faculty and the peds faculty Dr. Diaz is amazingyesNo | how did rotators fare this year w/ interview invites? | I rotated and they said I would be considered without an interview- email said that all the faculty got to know me well; others have posted here and said they could have an optional interview because faculty did not get to know them as well as they would have liked. I will post if they rank me or not.|how do you know if a program ranks you?
Baylor University Medical Center ProgramVery hands-on; Residency is in a private practice - Texas Dermatology Associates; Chair is a big guy in Psoriasis; A lot of experiences are "outsourced" - Pedi Derm is done at an outside Pedi Derm's office (Ghali); Lectures are piggybacked off of UTSW; 1
University of Texas Southwestern Medical School ProgramThey no longer give all rotators interivews. So you may want to understand how you stack up before you waste 4 wks there. I had great reviews and feedback from residents and faculhty and did not get an interview...guessing because I don't have an out of this world Step score and/or enough publications. Saw patients on my own 90% of the time and had to give formal presentations. Did not do any procedures or biopsies. Weekly quizzes, and must score >80% to pass. Must start and eventually publish a project. You are expected to function at the level of a resident. You will work hard and learn a lot!2yesYESEpic