#saass transcript - April 2 2012
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lmendersbyGood morning #saass friends! See you at 12pm EST when we chat about Assessment Methods: Beyond the Survey. #sachat #sacdn
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MikeChristakisRT @lmendersby: Good morning #saass friends! See you at 12pm EST when we chat about Assessment Methods: Beyond the Survey. #sachat #sacdn
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MikeChristakisKeep the Conversation Going at SAassessment - http://t.co/LdzYQ8At. #saass
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CampusLabsCoRT @gavinhenning: Are you #saassy? Join us for the #saass chat Mondays at noon EDT. #sachat
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KHarv28#saass friends! See you at 12pm EST when we chat about Assessment Methods: Beyond the Survey. #SAchat
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lmendersbyT-1 hour until our #saass chat! We're talking assessment methods today! See you at 12pm EST friends! #sachat #sacdn
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UOAdvDirRT @lmendersby: Good morning #saass friends! See you at 12pm EST when we chat about "Assessment Methods: Beyond the Survey". #sachat #sacdn
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pshefmanit is already that kind of week so sad I will have to back channel today's #saass on assessment methods
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pshefmanRT @lmendersby: T-1 hour until our #saass chat! We're talking assessment methods today! See you at 12pm EST friends! #sachat #sacdn
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NotAnnieButAnneSomeday I will learn how timezones work and stop double booking myself. Looking forward to a transcript of today's #saass chat!
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EvanHeiser@lmendersby That would be great! I am looking forward to the #saass chat today! Thanks for setting them up!
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lmendersbyHappy Monday! Officially welcoming everyone to the SA Assessment #saass chat! Good to see you!
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lmendersbyToday's topic? Assessment Methods: Beyond the Survey, or, on a scale of 1 to more than 1, how many surveys is too many? ;) #saass
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EvanHeiser@lmendersby Oh yeah this #saass is going to be fun :-) Love starting off with a little #sass
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lmendersbyIs this your first time participating in a Twitter chat? Read this: http://t.co/Lxizw0kQ #saass
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lmendersbyDon't forget you can follow the hashtag over at http://t.co/XOHD6Km8 or http://t.co/aG0pVsvd. We tweet pretty fast & furious here! #saass
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lmendersbyTake a moment to introduce yourselves! Who's ready to talk assessment today? #saass
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JoeGineseRT @lmendersby: Take a moment to introduce yourselves! Who's ready to talk assessment today? #saass
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gavinhenningHappy Monday. I am Gavin Henning and work in the Office of Institutional Research at Dartmouth College #saass
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EvanHeiserHi everyone! I am Evan Heiser, Asst. to the VP for StuLife at Elon University! #saass #saass
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MikeChristakisHey #saass Tweeps! Let's talk "beyond the survey!"
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lmendersbyI'll be tweeting out questions labelled as 'Q1, Q2, etc'. To answer, start with the question number (e.g. Q1) & the hashtag! #saass
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karenfgibsonHello! Karen, ADRL at St. Edward's University. First #saass chat today. Perhaps more lurking than contributing. We'll see!
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BryceEHughesBryce Hughes, PhD student at UCLA, jumping in! #saass
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lmendersby@karenfgibson Happy to have you here Karen! #saass
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lmendersbyQ1: We're talking 'beyond the survey' today. Why are surveys getting such a bad rap? Was it something they said? #saass
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BryceEHughesQ1 Many surveys are just poorly constructed, implemented, and utilized. #saass
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gavinhenningQ1: The biggest issues is the overuse of surveys. With cheap tech, anyone can create them, thus it seems like all are creating them. #saass
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NikiRudolphQ1: It's more that surveys have become a crutch. "Well, I do assessment, since I sent my students a survey." #saass
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gavinhenningQ1: Other issues is surveys are driving assessment question, not other way around #saass
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EvanHeiserQ1 in addition to @BryceEHughes I would also add they are the assessment "crutch" and there needs to be more #saass
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lmendersbyRT @NikiRudolph: Q1: It's more that surveys have become a crutch. "Well, I do assessment, since I sent my students a survey." #saass
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BryceEHughes@EvanHeiser You, me, and @NikiRudolph agree there. #saass
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EvanHeiser@gavinhenning are these larger multi-institutional ones or also homemade surveys driving assessment questions? #saass
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gavinhenningQ1: I think some of the issue with the crutch is that folks don't know other ways to assess #saass
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NikiRudolphAgreed. RT @gavinhenning: Q1: I think some of the issue with the crutch is that folks don't know other ways to assess #saass
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gavinhenning@EvanHeiser I think it is both. #saass
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BryceEHughes@gavinhenning And that's a major issue--people create them too quickly without thought or intention. #saass
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MikeChristakisQ1: Surveys should inform, but not necessarily be the "end" of the discussion/inquiry. #saass
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EvanHeiserRT @gavinhenning: Q1: I think some of the issue with the crutch is that folks don't know other ways to assess #saass
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lmendersbyHoping to work on that today! MT @gavinhenning: Q1: Some of the issue with the crutch is that folks dont know other ways to assess #saass
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gavinhenningQ1: However, surveys do have their place and time. Just not as a default. #saass
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BryceEHughesQ1 As an aspiring quant researcher, I'll add that they could be more powerful if folks are willing to do the ground work. #saass
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EvanHeiser@MikeChristakis completely agree - I don't think we need to totally stop using surveys just go beyond them #saass
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lmendersbyTrue! Tell us more! RT @MikeChristakis: Q1: Surveys should inform, but not necessarily be the "end" of the discussion/inquiry. #saass
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UOAdvDirAgree w/ @nikirudolph @gavinhenning. Some survey givers think #assessment = survey. #saass
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lmendersbySounds like you're ready for Q2: When could a survey be the best and/or preferred assessment method? #saass
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MikeChristakisQ1: caution: don't disqualify what you've learned from a survey based on poor response, etc. Still may be of value! #saass
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SusewoozQ1: Sometimes it's just a matter of too many surveys - we're dealing w/that w/our 1st class ever here. #saass
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EvanHeiserQ1 I think surveys also can lead to assessment fatigue in that it is active on the participants part too #saass
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lmendersbyRT @MikeChristakis: Q1: caution: dont disqualify what youve learned from a survey based on poor response, etc. Still may be of value! #saass
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SusewoozSue from Hofstra NS-LIJ SOM - Forgot to tag the intro tweet. Sheesh. :) #saass #opps
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MikeChristakis@lmendersby Q1: consider building a focus group off of some of the initial findings from a survey. #saass
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BryceEHughesQ2 When trying to capture data from a large group of students--where a large sample would be appropriate. #saass
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EvanHeiserQ2 I think surveys are the best method when there really are a limited set of answers through research or other tools (focus group) #saass
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lmendersbyRT @MikeChristakis: @lmendersby Q1: consider building a focus group off of some of the initial findings from a survey. #saass
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NotAnnieButAnneQ1: Surveys get a bad rap because we overlook (or don't do) the other pieces of assessment (change programs, share info) #saass
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lmendersby@EvanHeiser Sounds like you and @Susewooz are thinking along the same lines. How could we fight 'assessment fatigue'? #saass
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gavinhenning@EvanHeiser Good point. There should always be a conceptual or theoretical foundation to assessment, any method #saass
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MikeChristakis@gavinhenning Q2: Agreed! Institutional assessments (surveys) that reach hundreds or thousands of students are the way to go! #saass
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BryceEHughesToo easy to set up and too easy to conduct poorly. MT @Susewooz: Q1: Sometimes its just a matter of too many surveys. #saass
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JoeBooksLevyQ1: It's too easy w/ surveys to just send to ALL! Or, the larger problem of people assuming every survey should go to all #saass #saass
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CelindaEMiranda@lmendersby Surveys are best utilized when you need quantitative, actionable data re: satisfaction, performance, etc. - not LO based! #saass
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lmendersbyMT @NotAnnieButAnne: Q1: Surveys get a bad rap because we overlook the other pieces of assessment (change programs, share info) #saass
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EvanHeiser@lmendersby I think doing more direct assessments and learning more - rather than just getting a high volume #saass
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BryceEHughesMT @JoeBooksLevy: Q1: A larger problem--people assuming every survey should go to all #saass
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lmendersbyMT @JoeBooksLevy: Q1: Too easy w/ surveys to just send to ALL! Or, larger problem of assuming every survey should go to all #saass #saass
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SusewoozQ2: From my experience, surveys can be used to begin a #SAass discussion. Seems to be most effective then.
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BryceEHughes@CelindaEMiranda I think you can assess LO with a survey, but it will not give you the entire picture. You'll need more. #saass
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BryceEHughesThis. :) RT @Susewooz: Q2: From my experience, surveys can be used to begin a #SAass discussion. Seems to be most effective then. #saass
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lmendersbySounds like surveys are a great tool to start some dialogue! Our next questions will help in figuring out what to do next! #saass
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EvanHeiser@BryceEHughes definitely agree that surveys do not give you the entire picture! #saass
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CelindaEMiranda@BryceEHughes Precisely! With LOs, the preference is to use a more direct measure of learning - rubrics, observations, etc, #saass
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Susewooz@lmendersby @EvanHeiser Still trying to figure that out! If my stdts get hit with another survey, I think they'll actually explode. #SAass
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lmendersbyQ3: What other method(s)/tool(s) are you currently using or did you use last? Why did you choose it/them? #saass
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chadtweetsWow. Lots of hate for surveys. My take on surveys ... Better an assessment survey than no assessment at all. #saass
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lmendersby@Susewooz I guess 'making students explode' isn't part of your program outcomes is it? :) #saass
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EvanHeiser@Susewooz you should ask "will you explode if you get hit with another survey" in a survey and see what they say... #saass
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JoeBooksLevyQ2: Agree w/ others that surveys are great start to the conversation/allow you to narrow follow up & focus digging 4 future projects #saass
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gavinhenningQ3: Here are some that I like with my fav being 1-minute paper. http://t.co/yTrl9wxo #saass
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BryceEHughesQ3 Since I work in research (PhD student), we currently use national surveys of college students (hint: I go to UCLA). #saass
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lmendersbyThoughts? MT @chadtweets: Lots of hate for surveys. My take on surveys ... Better an assessment survey than no assessment at all. #saass
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gavinhenningQ3: 1-min papers are quick methods that can be easily tailored to be direct or indirect. #saass
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EvanHeiser@lmendersby one of my favorite is direct observation using a rubric based on the LO or activity - so much better information! #saass
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lmendersbyRT @gavinhenning: Q3: Here are some that I like with my fav being 1-minute paper. http://t.co/tQYiXti9 #saass
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SusewoozQ3: Learning objectives are used regularly here in patient-cased learning. #medED #SAass
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BryceEHughesQ3 For research purposes we try to augment survey data with focus groups and interviews for qual and mixed methods papers. #saass
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lmendersbyHow so? RT @gavinhenning: Q3: 1-min papers are quick methods that can be easily tailored to be direct or indirect. #saass
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gavinhenning@EvanHeiser Q3 I love rubrics, too. They are synergistic assessment methods as they assess and foster learning at same time. #saass
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lmendersbyMT @BryceEHughes: Q3 For research purposes we augment survey data with focus groups and interviews for qual and mixed methods papers. #saass
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chadtweetsQ3: We used a paper-based quiz like from Cosmo to help assess LOs related to independence. #saass
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gavinhenningQ3: Also a big fan of the visual collection, although I haven't used it a great deal #saass
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lmendersby@EvanHeiser Are you finding any challenges with these direct observation methods? How do the students respond? #saass
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BryceEHughesQ3 As an #SApro I used to LOVE conducting focus groups with students to engage in conversation to involve them in evaluation. #saass
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JoeBooksLevyTouche, @chattweets. But if u dont USE the data (which is easy w/ surveys) save ur time & don't do any assessment at all #isaidit #saass
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EvanHeiserQ3 any assessment method that is part of the learning process I feel helps to get buy in from students and professionals #saass
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gavinhenning@lmendersby Q3: You can ask folks to say what they learned or actually have them demonstrate some learning that occurred #saass
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lmendersbyWhat's does that look like? RT @gavinhenning: Q3: Also a big fan of the visual collection, although I havent used it a great deal #saass
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gavinhenningQ3: The best assessment method is one that gathers data and fosters learning. Be innovative! #saass
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EvanHeiser@lmendersby when only used for LO and program improvement - try to do it without them really knowing they are being assessed #saass
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