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Wednesday, September 2, 2020: Approved Outer Planet Mission Updates
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Mandatory		Please type your questions or comments for the preseenters here and exit the document once done. The presenters will respond verbally. If time does not allow, the presenters may respond here.
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Steven T Rappolee Consultent/DisabledJuno was left in a high eliptical orbit above the radiation do to a engine problem.Perhaps this is a saving grace for moon tours?the larger orbit had some advantages, although at the time it was disappointing. Flexibility was fortunate and an advantage when designing a mission. The moons are definitely a bonus but also demonstrates that a NF mission can be quite broad scientifically. -scott
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Steven T Rappolee Consultent/DisabledJuno will collect data at Io how much of this would complement the proposed IVO mission.What would lost if IVO was not selected?(Alfred McEwen): Juno will do a fabulous job of studying the Io Plasma torus and magnetospheric interactions with Io (and Europa). This is complementary to IVO, which focuses on study of Io's interior structure and heat flow. More about IVO tomorrow at 9 AM Pacific.Thanks
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Steven T Rappolee Consultent/DisabledEuropa Lander Carrier Stage in a eliptical disposal orbit.Not so fast :) This crys out for a Juno cam and can the Carrier be a future relay?Kevin Hand: Its a good idea, but for the sake of our studies, we wanted to avoid the added cost and complexity
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Steven T Rappolee Consultent/DisabledImagine a AO where the lander was government furnished eqiupment and the PI is always different (distributed management teams)
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Steven T Rappolee Consultent/DisabledI hope we get to see Bobs cats :) Can Europa Clipper detect silicate particals that might imply hydrothermal vents?The dust analyser (SUDA) can detect and measure the composition (anions and cations) of silicate-rich particles, if they are there. (This would be analogous to Cassinin CDA at Enceladus.) A big question is whether and how particles from Europa's ocean might make it to the Europa Clipper's instruments where we could measure them: compared to low-gravity Enceladus, it is much more diffiult for interior particles to make it to space, as open fractures likely will be limited in depth by gravity. Also, speaking of cat-ions: =^._.^= （ꏿ ω ꏿ) /ᐠ｡‸｡ᐟ\I think we missed the first few minutes of this talk, someone might want to notify the speakerYeah, same -- seems he started before they went live.I wish there was a "like" button for the cat emoji
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Steven T Rappolee Consultent/DisabledWill Dragon do any descent imageing? After the heat shield is released, Dragonfly will be able to do some imaging during the flight to its initial landing site. --Zibi Turtle<-- great, thanks
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Alfred McEwen, University of ArizonaIf the Wide-Angle Camera does not fly on Europa Clipper, can Europa Lander still land without using Terrain Relative Navigation? Or using non-ideal TRN?
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Michael Aye (LASP)As JUNO's outreach camera is now being used for science goals of the mission extension, will this change be reflected in a funded science team for the camera? What about more partcipitating scientists, this time for the camera?
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Kunio Sayanagi Hampton Univ.To Europa Lander Team: What's the status of space-qualifying the CFx batteries?
In a space-qualified package, what's the energy density in Wh/kg?		The LiCFx batteries have had some limited space flight use. The Europa Lander Advanced Development effort is studying their performance after long term storage cruise and in the radiaiton enviromnment of Europa. Our specific energy target is 800Wh/kg and we are very close to that now.Kunio again -- we are moving the New Horizons update to tomorrow. The server is being rebooted right now, and we will move to the next talk when the technical problem is worked out.
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Yes! Slides are up and I heard Jeff from "Good Afternoon"agree audio is good and I see slides
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Kathy Mandt, APL Addition by Carol Paty, UOregonIf Juno's extended mission is approved, will there be another call for participating scientists? Carol adds: Will there be the opportunity to add via the PS program additional expertise to enhance the return on the Jovian moon science?Question deferred to NASA HQ, possible OPAG finding. Scott notes importance of having the call soon because the extended mission would begin in 2022.
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Kunio Sayanagi (Hampton U.)To Scott Bolton: A follow up on the Fall 2019 OPAG finding about PDS archiving of Juno data -- Do you have any update on archiving data on the PDS?we are 100% caught upWonderful, thanks!
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Bethany Theiling, GSFCWould possible changes to EIS-WAC on Clipper affect the ability of Europa Lander team to choose a landing site?From RTP: Yes: for a lander to utilize Terrain Relative Navigation, the most relevant Clipper dataset for the purpose is the EIS-WAC imaging. Lander folks may wish to elaborate. SImilar question is above. ---Lynnae: Bethany, did that answer your question? (Bethany) Good to know. This does make me wonder if the machine learning training based on NAC and WAC I suggested in my white paper would help fill in those gaps. I'm sure there are some awesome data scientists out there who would love to try! :-)(Bethany) Thanks for the additional information, Cynthia! I have a better sense of how it would work now.
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Chris German, WHOIAlready anwered by response to Alfred's Question: Presumably the 2x10km Landing Aress (Cynthia Philipps' talk) would all reside within the footprint of the Europa Clipper NAC cameras - does that mitigate any risk that WAC doesn't fly on Clipper?(Chris) Thanks for all the clarificatons, Bob & Cynthia. Important not to lose sight of Bob's statement that Clipper still plans for WAC to fly.
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John Cooper, GSFCCould carrier support instruments and earth comm with additional funding, e.g. from ESA?
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scott boltonif Juno identifies regions of thin ice or subsurface liquid, is that important to Lander?
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Say again when Alan will re-speak?<<-- did that help?
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