One Village, Six People Midpoint Reflection (Responses)
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TimestampWhat issues have been discussed so far?What were the main points offered by your role group in the negotiations?How did members of different role groups respond? What were their main points?What was the outcome (if any) of your negotiations so far?What was one thing that someone (including yourself) did that escalated the conflict?What was one thing that someone (including yourself) did that de-escalated the conflict?To what extent are you satisfied with the negotiations so far? What is one thing that you could have done differently to improve the outcome? What one thing could someone else have done differently?What do you think will happen next?What role are you playing?
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4/8/2014 11:12:32We have discusses cattle and ownership of the land.We decided that we should be in charge however that did not end up happening.They completely disagreed and voted joseph as the decider if necessary.We havent actually made any decisions yet.We told bernadette she had no right to the land and she went crazy.They took bernadette outside the room and they calmed her down.I am not satisfied because I was taken out of power which I will try to get back. I think they need to stay a little more true to their characters because perpetune is acting like she was not part of the genocide.I will try to get power back.Charles
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4/8/2014 11:18:07How we are going to split the land, who is getting cattle, who is providing labor. We have not come up with any clear desicions.I am willing to share the land with Frederic and just take what I need to survive.Charles did not act as though Tutsis had any right to land. Frederic and I are gettin married and are getting some of the land, I do not know how much we are getting compared to Ancille and Perpetune or what is being done with their land. Towards the beginning, everything was escalated and no one wanted to compromise (especially Charles)We started to all compromise and discuss how to split the land while having an unspoken agreement that Charles has no real power, so he calmed down. People stepped out in pairs to negotiate and that seemed to help as well.We have made no real definate decisions and all want some land. We are to selfish and need to figure out what is in everyone's best interests. Hopefully now that Frederic
and I are married we will get most of the land while still keeping the others happy by sharing cattle.
Bernadette
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4/8/2014 11:17:47-land ownership
-whether or not marriage is a viable option
-how to equally share land amongst groups
-Hutu and Tutsi relations
-appeasement
-marriage to allow for familial links to the Hutus
-Charles didn't object to any of the concepts but the execution through him (marcela) off
-perpetune and ancille were on our side from the beginning. They realized that it's in their best interest to cooperate and they understand that healthy race relations will lead to prosperity.
-Charles just wanted money and two cows....fine
-marriage and equal land distribution
-Charles gets a male and female cow and Joseph will allow him to apply for another government job with a recommendation
-I said that men hold all of the power and the rest of my group (women in actuality) became defensive
-I also brought in religious arguments (are these folks animistic?) and said that the ancestral spirits would be angered if they didn't support peace
-listening to the concerns of others and not interrupting them. Encouraging decorum allowed for tempers to wane. Highly satisfied. I am the underdog here so it would've been easy to play a subordinate role in the negotiations. However, my group allowed my opinions to be voiced and actually took most if not all into consideration. I took the stance that economic progress is tantamount to the total progress of Rwanda. We need to generate wealth before any long lasting peace options make themselves apparent and I think that our current set up is conducive to that outcome. A Hutu and a Tutsi are getting married and their cultural differences are both equally valid. Understanding that was key to ensuring long lasting peace. Negotiations will continue without much interruption. Bernadette
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4/8/2014 11:21:57Our main issue is peace and distribution of land. Ancestral values have been discussed as well.All four people wanted to live on the land together under Fredric's name. They all want a place to live with crops and cattle and to keep the peace. From the beginning, Bernadette, Fredric, Ancille and Perpetune came together peacefully, not allowing Charles to intervene. Bernadette and Fredric decided to get married, allowing Ancille and Perpitude to live on the land. They were wary of this offer, but agreed in order to maintain peace. This is exactly what I wanted and everything has been very peaceful throughout. The four came to an agreement about sharing the land.Charles pulled me aside and asked if it seemed that things were getting along too well. I said yes and decided to question the four and make sure that peace would be maintained once they actually started living together.I wrote out the specific agreements on the board, saying that if conflict did arise Ancille/Perpetune would get 1/3 of the land. Also, it was decided that the agreement would be reevaluated every 50 years to keep peace in the future.Everything has gone just as I wanted, with the villagers working things out amongst themselves.Although peace has been kept so far, right before this break Charles pulled me aside again and said that Fredric stole the land. I worry that Charles will question the already made agreement and insist on Ann taking the land , even though I think that Fredric should have it. Joseph
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4/8/2014 11:23:33Distribution of land
Charles wants all power
To allow equal distribution of the land but everyone over through me, i as Joseph now how no say in anything even the Tutsi don't care about me. Charles hated me being in charge so he straight away wanted 50/50 power, i did not allow this but was voted out. Ancille/perpetune listen to everything Charles says and have convinced Bernadette to be siding with them. Frederick is being given nothing and like Joseph being totally ignored. Charles is officially the one with the most powerI was overthrown by Charles which escalated the conflict because there is no longer any cooperation only argument. I tried to ignore Charles and not allow anything he said to be heard or become relevant (ultimately failed to help).So far I am upset that i have no power i am trying to get it back but seems impossible at this point. To improve the outcome the Tutsi could side with me; a hutu which helped them during the genocide. I think that Ancillle/Perputune will end up farming all the land but supporting Bernadette and her family . I think Frederick will have to give some of his cow away of the right of them grazing on someone else land. Joseph (me) will never regain power.Joseph
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4/8/2014 11:24:13The issues of land ownership, placement of the cattle, provisions for the safety of the children (Bernadette's & Perpetune's), and rightful presiding officer have been discussed.I offered to adopt Constance due to Bernadette's potential impending death; this would indirectly force (or at least encourage) Bernadette to end all claims to the land (as she is currently doing so under the claim of properly caring for her daughter).Bernadette did not take kindly to my well-meaning offer; she claims she is under speedy recovery.

Joseph viewed the idea as wonderful and insightful and now believes me to be a benevolent citizen of the village.
Adoption unsuccessful as of yet, but Joseph seems to be in favor, so I will continue to attempt to make that deal.Bernadette has continuously undergone mental breakdowns during which she throws her papers in the air and complains about entirely irrelevant occurrences. (For example, when I offered to adopt Constance, she screamed, "I WAS RAPED.") The rest of the village and I agree that these outbursts are an attempt to garner sympathy, but some of us (Frederic, myself, Joseph, and Ancille) acknowledged that such occurrences were, indeed, tragic.After one of the aforementioned outbursts, I offered to take sick Bernadette outside for a drink of water. This, of course, served a dual purpose in that I was then able to discuss my intention for Constance's health and safety.I am quite satisfied with the negotiation so far, mostly because I believe that the metaphorical seeds have been planted for what will hopefully be a realization of my goals within the next round of discussion. While Bernadette has not agreed to the offer of Constance's adoption, I believe she is on her way to doing so. I have not yet brought up my offer of allowing Frederic's cows on my land, which would have been beneficial as he would have had more time during our break to consider it, but I don't see it being a major problem.

With regard to something that someone else could have done differently: In my personal opinion, Charles handled his "campaign" of sorts for the role of presiding officer of the meeting very poorly. He could have appealed to me and Ancille by offering to vote in our favor on important issues, but he did not do so.
I think it is very likely at this point that Anne will end up with the land, (largely because we have, all except for Bernadette, agreed that Bernadette's claims to the land are without merit, and I predict that the same thing will happen with Frederic in the next round of negotiations), which is in the best interest of myself and my family.Perpetune
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4/8/2014 11:24:54Cattle, power and landMostly sharing land and trying to be peaceful. Nobody is willing to give up all of their land, and Joseph refuses to give up power.Perpetune is only worried about getting food and having peace. Frederick does not want to give up his claim to the land, and is marrying Bernadette. EVERYONE HATES CHARLES. They don't give him any validity and they are all agreeing to side against Charles. Nothing has really escalated. NothingNot satisfied at all. I need to gain power and have Ancille on my side. I think that the villagers will ignore Charles and just split the land fairly between everyone.Charles
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4/8/2014 11:26:11Who owns the land, who should receive the cows, who should run the meeting, who should decide what happens in the meetingWe receive at least 1/2 the land. We got kicked out because of Hutus. The land is in our name. We need somewhere for our castles to live and graze. The land was abandoned and therefore is not mine. I am tusti. I should not need so much land for cattle. I am taking too much land.Bernadette is not entitled to any land at all. We are willing to help Bernadette. Charles is wrong.Bernadette screamed and howled. Charles tried overthrowing the meeting.I tried calming Bernadette down and Joseph called for a break.I am not satisfied because almost everyone thinks that we are not entitled to land and that they deserve cows. If people were more willing to give my land back I would be more willing to share crops and cattle.I think I will marry Bernadette to share land and crops and cattle but I think Ancille will try to take my land from me.Frederic
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4/8/2014 11:29:17Land ownership, cattle grazing, crop growing.Everything goes in Fredric's name and Burnadette, Perpetune and Ancille all benefit from the deal.Most groups responded well, Charles did not. He seems to be stuck in a rut.Fredric get all of the land, including that of Perpetune and Ancille. In return, Perpetune and Ancille are allowed to have homes on the property, grow crops, and have meals for free. Perpetune and Ancille will give all of their profit to Fredric. Charles gets 2 cows. None.Agreements and alliances between the people, not including Charles.Very satisfied. I could have scammed Charles out of everything.I think Charles will try to make deals which will fall flat.Frederic
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4/8/2014 11:27:54All issues have been discussedI was to be leader, Ancille was to get all the land, and Fredrick was to graze his cows on my land.Fredrick and Joseph were the only ones to really resist. They still resist and refute all I say.Ancille has been given all of the disputed land on the condition that she supports Bernadette and her child with food until Bernadette's death.I locked all resistance out of the room.Isabella began to yell and push on the door. Joseph turned out the lights. I am very satisfied. I have all that I want. Had Joseph never left the room, I wouldn't be as successful. I think all deals will go my way, though I expect greater resistance when I return.Charles
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4/8/2014 11:31:16So far, we have mostly been discussing the possible distribution of land and cattle. Each person has discussed their own opinions on the matter and what they want. We have not come to any agreements yet. The main points offered all surround who is supposed to own the land and who they want to give the land to. Our group spend a lot of time discussing who rightfully owns the land and what the Rwandan law is about passing land down. My entire group wants peaceful negotiation and wants everyone to have a piece of land. Most of the group members agree that Bernadette does not actually own any of the land but they still want to help her by giving her food. All of the members of the group voted for me, Joseph, to run the meeting. Because of this, Charles decided to side with Anne because she is a Hutu. His main point was that the land rightfully belongs to Anne because it was passed down to her from her husband. Charles said that this is the way in which Rwandan law works. Before being voted out of power, Charles also made the point that Joseph has an appointed position and therefore has no power. Frederick has asserted many times that the land is rightfully his because he has both a piece of paper stating so and the direct passing down of the land from his father. Frederick wants land for his cattle to graze on. Bernadette's main points all surround the fact that she is very sick and unable to plant crops. Therefore, Bernadette has needed help with crops and food this season. However, Bernadette believes that the land is hers and she continues to think that she will be perfectly healthy and able to plant crops soon. Perpetune has many ideas on how to negotiate. Mostly, Perpetune just wants the ability to have some crops and food for her children. However, Perpetune has also offered to take care of Bernadette's child and even adopt her if necessary. Ancille's main point is that the land belongs to her daughter. Ancille is willing to negotiate with Frederick to give him some land for his cows. I have been a neutral party and have been trying to get everyone to agree peacefully. It seems like we are getting somewhere in our negotiations. Everyone seems willing to cooperate with each other in some way. We have not made any definitive agreement thus far. Charles made a comment to Bernadette saying something along the lines of "no one cares that you got raped." Because of this, Bernadette freaked out and got very upset. Perpetune took Bernadette outside and calmed her down. After this, I decided to call a 5 minute break for everyone to calm down. I am pretty satisfied with the negotiations thus far. I don't think that there is really much that I could have done to improve the outcome. I think that Charles could be a little bit meaner and more in character. He seems pretty passive. I think that the villagers will come to some sort of agreement about how to divvy up the land. I also think that there will be many offers made from villager to villager about ways in which they can help each other individually. Joseph
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4/8/2014 11:29:41We have discussed land ownership and the distribution of the land between all of us. We have also discussed where the cattle will be grazed with the preferred place being Perpetune's land. The main points where me sharing the land with Ancille and Perpetune up until my death; my daughter would then be adopted by Perpetune after my death and supported. The next point is that Frederic would graze cattle on Perpetune's land in exchange for 5 cattle. The system will be a communal system where we all support each other with the exception of Charles, Joseph, and Frederic. Frederic was upset over the loss of what he thought to be his land and then sought to graze on Perpetune's land. His main point is that the land is closest to his ancestral land and he will pay 5 cattle to Perpetune and 5 cattle to Charles. Joseph is unsatisfied with the turn of the events, but everyone else is happy. The outcome is that Perpetune, Ancille, and I share all of our land up until my death. I will be paid through crops and live in Ancille's house and be nursed to health. Oliver locked Yasmin, Isabela, and myself outside of the room and would not let us in unless we agreed that he is leader. One thing that everyone did to de-escalate the conflict was to laugh at our actions. I am satisfied with the negotiations as I am getting support throughout the rest of my life and my daughter will be supported after my death. I wish that I pushed for Joseph to have more of a say and that other people supported him. I think that the conflict will escalate as we figure out who is the leader and where Frederic grazes his cattle. Bernadette
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4/8/2014 11:31:56The issue that has been covered so far was the Frederic vs. Ancille land problem, as we are trying to decide who has the right to that land (Frederic has it officially, but he is a Tutsi and Ancille is already in the land).My group hasn't really reached any negotiations as Frederic and Ancille are both not willing to give up the land. Joseph is clearly on Frederic's side, while Charles (obviously) is going for Ancille. I have offered to split the land equally or for Frederic to use part of Charles' land (just for this season) until my land is plantable again.Joseph is completely supporting Frederic, arguing that he has the legal right to the land and who is not willing to trust any Hutus.
Frederic and Bernadette are working closely together as they are both Tutsis and are not willing to give up the land.
Charles is being ignored by all the other members as none of us support the genocide.
My negotiations haven't had any outcomes yet as even after a private conversation, Ancille and Frederic have not reached a satisfiable agreement. My interests rely mostly on that discussion so that is a problem regarding my interests. I made a deal with Frederic for some cows (he can work on part of my land, as long as he provides me with something) and I have offered my kids to work for them (like they do for Ancille, in exchange for some food, but Frederic is not willing to give me half of the harvest). Frederic and Bernadette have also decided to get married and this drives me further from my interests. One thing that escalated the conflict was when Charles said that he wouldn't be in the meeting if he didn't run it. The outcome of that was that everyone ignored his wish and he had to stay there anyways. Also, when I told the Tutsis that I would support Charles and the genocide if they didn't give Ancille the land the conflict was escalated. Having Frederic and Ancille to leave the room and have a private conversation was an idea that brought back a more peaceful way of discussion as before that, most of us were just holding to tightly to our individual goals and ignoring that fact that we all have some sort of objective and things that have to be done. Trying to understand the difference between our individual instructions and realizing that there is no facts or in other words, things that are determined to be right or wrong also was fundamental in the de-escalation of the conflict and attempt to solve it in the most "civilized" way.I did make a small deal with Frederic, meaning that I would have a cow to provide food for my children from now on. However, I am really not satisfied with how this negotiations are moving as Frederic is really not willing to believe in anyone who is not a Tutsi (even though I did not participate in the genocide) and Joseph is working on his side, so there isn't anything that gives evidence to the fact that the land should be Ancille's (my main goal). Also, having that Charles is being ignored, there is no sort of support to the Hutus in this case (as again, Joseph is supporting the Tutsis). I believe that I have a character that depends a lot on other people's negotiations so I feel like I should maybe have individual conversations with each one of the groups and offer whatever deal I can make (as I can honestly make a deal with anyone). At the same time, I believe that the Tutsis should be more willing to trust the Hutus and that Frederic should be more willing to share the land. He should understand that I need to feed my children.In my group, what will happen next is really a mystery as it all depends on how Frederic wants to deal with the issue. I believe that having this "in group" moments will either be really beneficial or harmful to my goals as I believe that we are all going to use this minutes to develop new ideas for our strategies according to the role each person in our village has been playing within the role that has been assigned. Overall I am really curious to see how this midpoint reflection will affect each person's take on the issues that have been presented (in my case, specially the Frederic vs. Ancille land dispute).Perpetune
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4/8/2014 11:33:12Who owns the land?
Is Frederic's will legitimate at all?
We know Bernadette has no rights to the land at all
The land belongs to Anne, and Frederic needs to repay me for the land that he has ruined. Bernadette has no rights to the land and should be grateful for the generosity we have given her. Perpetune had a very strong alliance with Ancille and her main interest was protecting her children.
Bernadette felt that the land should belong to her and nobody else.
Frederic wanted the land back because he claims it is his under the old will.
The only outcome that seems somewhat definitive is that Joseph will remain in charge and Charles will not. Perpetune offered to adopt Constance because she fears for the safety of the child and Bernadette become extremely upset because she believes that she will live through the next year. We decided to start listing all of the possible negotiations on the board to further discuss what we all want and come to a compromise. I think I'm closer to reaching a successful agreement because I have a close alliance with Bernadette and Perpetune. I don't think anyone is favoring Charles in the group, which is not exactly harmful to me or my interest but he is definitely a strong supporter. I think we are going to start debating the cattle and the land more in depth. Ancille
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4/8/2014 11:39:17We quickly discussed the issue of leadership and settled that. We discussed the land ownership and cattle placement. The issue of payment for damaged crops hasn't really been addressed yet.I was both Ancille and Perpetune whose characters were already working together. I offered a commune type relationship and offer support to Bernadette. This ensued support from Bernadette with pretty much everyone against Fredric. The Hutu and Tutsi issue was also part of negotiations where I would question whether or not someone should to align with a Hutu (me) or a Tutsi under a regime controlled by Hutu favoring Charles. I also had land to offer up as alternatives for Fredric whose title wasn't being recognized by the Hutu regime of Charles.Fredric kept pushing the issue of his title and legal right to the land; however, this went unacknowledged by Charles who was in charge. Fredric also offered up marriage and cattle willingly in response to losing land. Fredric failed to fully convince me why he needed that specific land above other offered land, such as from Charles and Perpetune. He really just argued that it was his inheritance and that he has familial ties to the land. He also argued that he would go to the Capital city and seek the Department of Justice to report Ancille and Charles.

Charles quickly took power away from Joseph as he seized the meeting space and refused to let people in and participate if they did not accept him as leader. When Gaby caved, we had enough votes to keep him in power. Charles clearly prefers the Ancille option over any other and refused to recognize Fredric's title as holding any legal weight. He wants to get cattle from Fredric in exchange for allowing him to graze on the land. He seems to be in favor of the commune setup we have and seems pretty openminded to Tutsi use of land (given the circumstances and character itself)

Joseph is a nonissue. He lost power pretty quickly and without any land,crops, cattle, or recognized political influence, he has pretty much been shut out of all negotiations.

Bernadette liked the idea of a commune and aligning herself with the Hutu women as opposed to a Tutsi man under a strongly Hutu favored regime. Under the commune proposal, Bernadette does not really have rights to the land, but has (in writing) that she and her daughter will be taken care of, offered protection, and given food produced on the land.

I'm both Perpetune and Ancille so they have been working toward the exact same goal.
We have "solved" the issue by establishing a female run commune of solidarity between Ancille, Anne, Perpetune, her children, Bernadette, and her child Constance. Our land rights are completely recognized by the regime of Charles (oddly enough since we are all women) and Fredric in in a position where he must negotiate an uphill battle to keep his cattle alive.I regards to my actions, I would egg Oliver on most of the time and that escalated his character, Charles, actions as he now had verbal support. I reaped the benefits of having Fredric's title not recognized and Joseph nearly exiled, and so I wouldn't budge on these issues.

Oliver (Charles) quickly escalated the issue by not allowing the others to enter the room without accepting his leadership. That was the biggest turning point in the entire discussion.
I think that the conflict deescalation occurred at the close of the commune deal between Bernadette, Perpetune, and Ancille. Though Fredric still isn't happy, the others have all of their needs met.I am satisfied so far as the unspoken alliance between Charles and Perpetune/Ancille is pretty strong. However, I do think that we are missing the aspect of gender in this simulation. Though I don't think we could accurately portray it, I would have like to see some back and forth over land rights since is was Fredric, a male, against Ancille, a woman without a man.

Something I could have done differently to improve the outcome would have been to push harder for cattle from Fredric. However, I can do this later and probably get a nice settlement.

A major thing that someone else could have done differently would by Gaby (Bernadette). She could have stayed outside the meeting room with Fredric and Joseph and made decisions on their own. By giving in, she gave Charles all the power whereas we would have had two opposing groups fighting against each other. This bipolar system may have been more entertaining and ww could have a real deadlock which seems to be one of the main points of the simulation (i.e. two tutsi v. two hutu in the land dispute)
Next, pretty much everyone is going to be pushing Fredric to give them cattle as he is in a poor bargaining situation. Ancille
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4/8/2014 11:39:14We have discussed who will own the land, who owns the cattle, where the profit from each of those will go, and how the agreement will be ensured to be upheld. We are willing to put the land in Frederic's name and give him the profit, as long as we are allowed to live there and harvest and be completely provided for. If the agreement is broken we are given 1/3 of the land as our own to make profit off of and survive from. I will offer the idea that, as the land was supposedly stolen by Frederic, I should be given a portion that is completely my own from the start. Frederic and Bernadette are going to get married and take all of the land, and are willing to let me live there completely provided for forever. We reached an agreement, as mentioned above, but I'm afraid they are trying to trick me and I think I am going to start fighting them.The conflict never really escalated, but if I challenge Frederic's claim to the land, accusing him of stealing it, this will certainly escalate things.Bernadette and Frederic plan to marry and share all of the land. I would be satisfied if I didn't think that they were trying to trick me or if I was convinced that Frederic does actually own the land. If he does not, then I want to fight it and gain all the land. I need to talk privately with Charles and Joseph to see what they think, because they both continue to remind me that they might betray me and that Frederic doesn't own the land. Everyone so far has been in agreement so there hasn't been an outcome for anyone to improve. I suppose we'll see.I predict some tension should I start this argument. I will probably loose the offer we have now but if I can get all of the land out of it then it will be worth it. I would still offer sharecropping and cattle grazing land to Bernadette, Perpetune, and Frederic regardless, but under certain conditions. Ancille
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4/8/2014 12:25:18Ownership, who owes the land and how is the division going to be. And also where the cattle should graze.Bernadette married Fred. So, now Ancille, Bernadette and Fred are going to live at the same land sharing all the things. The 3 of them are fine with this agreement and reached it by themselves.The members were surprisingly understanding of it all. They seemed to be fine with all of the decisions made. They all wanted land and so decided to share the land to make everyone satisfy.Bernadette, Fred and Ancille will share the land and the cattle.
Fred will mary Bernadette.
I said that the tutsi did not have the right to have an opinion.Agreed with the things proposed and tried to understand everyone's point of view.I should have said more explicitly that Fred does not owe the land legally, but Anne does. But the negotiations are being very easy and everyone seems to be in agreement with everything.I think the agreement will continue between the 3 people, Bernadette, Fred and Ancille will share the land.Charles
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4/8/2014 11:33:58The issue of the land has been discussed, as well as who should make the decisions, and where the cattle should graze. The main points offered were:

1) acceptance of a marriage proposal from Bernadette
2) 1/3 1/3 1/3 split of the land
3) 2/3 1/3 land split with Bernadette
4) all land goes to Frederick and cows are given to Ancille and Bernadette
5) all cattle graze on Perpetune's land
6) cattle graze on Perpetune and Charles's land

Charles- seized control of the meeting and declared himself all-powerful; land title is invalid (it was from an old regime that lost power), I have no power whatsoever, I am not in a position to make demands, my cattle are nuisances

Joseph- tried to regain power but failed, offered to help me launch a ministry of justice investigation regarding Ancille and Charles

Bernadette- initially agreed to the 2/3 1/3 split but then offered marriage, rejected my proposal of marriage, sided with Ancille to form a communal farmland on my land

Perpetune- does not want all of my cattle on her land, would rather split it between her land and Charles's land

Ancille- needs farmland, annoyed that my cows ate her crops, claimed that my land is rightfully hers, formed a commune with Bernadette
I no longer have any land. My cattle do not have any land on which to graze at this point. At the very beginning, Charles was adamant on taking power. He would not let us begin the negotiations until he was in power. Also, when he locked us out of the meeting house, tensions escalated. Various insults have been thrown about. Tensions have not deescalated yet. Tensions have not de-escalated. I am unsatisfied with the negotiations. I have no idea why they are all siding with Charles. Perhaps it is his dominating personality. I could have accepted Bernadette's initial proposal of marriage. Joseph could have fought for power more. Also, the villagers could have teamed up to take control of the meeting. I think that I will not get any land and that my cows will eventually all perish. Perhaps I will go back to Uganda. Frederic
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4/8/2014 11:34:04We have mainly discussed the issues of where the cattle should graze and the land ownership. Joseph was voted to chair the meeting, but there hasn't been much discussed about Charles. The main points that have been discussed are land ownership and cattle grazing. Perpetune and Ancille have an agreement about the land and plan to support Constance. Freidrich believes that he needs a lot of land for his cattle and is willing to provide milk to others. Everyone has said he or is willing to cooperate. Charles has offered half of his land to Friedrich in exchange for cowsMy main argument was that the land is mine and my husband would have willed it to me if he was prepared to die. Their response was that I have no idea if he would have given it to Jean and now by law the Jean is the owner. However, Jean died so the land is Anne's. They have basically agreed that the land is in no way mine and I am just a sick old woman that will probably die. They want to take care of Constance because she is the future. We have agreed to let Joseph chair the meeting and in a 5-1 decision (the 1 being me) that the land doesn't belong to Bernadette. I threw papers and acted emotionally traumatized which escalated the conflict. Perpetune took me outside for a water break because my character was emotionally involved. She also wanted to offer to support Constance. I am not satisfied at all. Joseph could have advocated for me; he has remained too neutral. I have not been satisfied with the negotiations because the entire group has pitted against me. They have decided Bernadette is worthless because she is sick and that the land is not hers. I probably could have toned down the sick card because the pity play backfired a little. Friedrich could have been more assertive and made a negotiation with me; however, the land ownership seems to be tilting in Ancille's favor. I will probably enter a deal with Ancille and Perpetune where they support me (but mostly my daughter) with my former land. Friedrich will either make a deal with the female neighbors or even Charles. We will also start discussing who can make the decisions. I predict it will be a democratic village decision and maybe Joseph will have a say. I don't see it ending well for Charles. Bernadette
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4/8/2014 11:34:29We've specifically discussed who owns the land (deciding that Bernadette has been living there for the past 20 years, but it originally belonged to me and my father). We have also discussed who has a right to run the meeting, and who will help Purpitune and Bernadette. Also, my cows have been discussed, as to who will have them and where they will graze. My cattle need a place to live, so I am claiming the original deed as proof of my ownership and letting my cows graze. I proposed Ancille keep the land of mine she has planted on, but in return, Bernadette (my wife now) and I get half of the harvest from that strip of land in my bounds. Charles is being a jerk, but almost everyone agrees he is not allowed to have a say in who the land goes to. Charles fought Joseph over who gets to run the meeting. I proposed giving 2 cows to Purpitune in exchange for temporary grazing land until we can get settled down into my land, which she has sort of accepted.Ancille has wanted more of my land, but is getting a little soft because I offered her cattle. Charles wants to kill me and Bernadette. Perpitune just wants whatever help she can get. Joseph seems to be on my side. Bernadette has decided to marry me, to share the land and the work.We have not come to a full decision. We may decide to kill/kick out Charles. I didn't escalate beyond shouting. However, two members of my group, while I was having a discussion outside, got into a marker fight over who would run the meeting...Purpitune was kind of calm throughout, and Joseph worked to settle people down if it got too rowdy.I am pretty happy with how things are turning out. Everyone for the most part is siding with me and against Charles. I think I could have tried to be a little nicer to Purpitune, maybe she would have agreed with me sooner.I think everyone will agree with me.Frederic
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4/8/2014 11:39:34The issues that have been discussed so far, are those about the rape, ownership of the land, and who has the power. Mainly- the issues were between myself, Ancille and Frederic regarding the land. The main points offered, were the ownership of the land and the rightful ownership of this land. I said that I turned my own husband in, and that I have been taking care of the land, when they haven't and I am helping Bernadette by giving her what she needs to survive. I also made the point that I have a standing agreement with Perpetune which is working, and Joseph is getting lost. I made the offer that I will continue to harvest, and help Frederic to keep his cattle alive. This is not working, but we have agreed that I have perpetune's land, my land, and the land I have already harvested on with an additional 2 cows. Joseph, responded negatively and kept saying that I need to include my own land if I wanted to split the land, which I was completely against.
Frederic was not happy AT ALL with me getting a majority of the land. However, he agreed to allow me to keep the land I have already been using, and give me two cows, and they will get to use the rest of the disputed land. I plan on agreeing to this, but then saying that if for any reason they leave the land, I will be allowed to harvest on their land and upon their return they can take back that land without question, if I get to keep 1/3 of what I had harvested. And if they do not leave, I will not enter their new agreed land-line unless they tell me to.
Perpetune, was slightly confused, and at a point turned against me, and offered that her children work for Frederic. This idea was denied.
There was no confident outcome thus far. I escalated the conflict by arguing for MY land, and they didn't agree at all- which ultimately caused fighting, but it didn't last very long. The conflict is on-going but it is at a calm level, so I don't think that it is fully gone. However, just like taking a second to think brought back the volume to normal levels. I am not fully satisfied, I think that I have gotten a lot. However, I want more of the land. I could have gotten Bernadette on my side, which would have helped A LOT- because then she would have been able to help to get my rights to the land, but she is claiming that she doesn't trust me. Someone else, charles or Perpetune could have made stronger points, rather than just sitting their and listening to me. I think that everyone will have gained perspective, and it might be harder for me to make an agreement.Ancille
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4/9/2014 13:27:22We have mainly discussed the issues of where the cattle should graze and the land ownership. Joseph was voted to chair the meeting, but there hasn't been much discussed about Charles. The main points that have been discussed are land ownership and cattle grazing. Perpetune and Ancille have an agreement about the land and plan to support Constance. Freidrich believes that he needs a lot of land for his cattle and is willing to provide milk to others. Everyone has said he or is willing to cooperate. Charles has offered half of his land to Friedrich in exchange for cowsMy main argument was that the land is mine and my husband would have willed it to me if he was prepared to die. Their response was that I have no idea if he would have given it to Jean and now by law the Jean is the owner. However, Jean died so the land is Anne's. They have basically agreed that the land is in no way mine and I am just a sick old woman that will probably die. They want to take care of Constance because she is the future. We have agreed to let Joseph chair the meeting and in a 5-1 decision (the 1 being me) that the land doesn't belong to Bernadette. I threw papers and acted emotionally traumatized which escalated the conflict. Perpetune took me outside for a water break because my character was emotionally involved. She also wanted to offer to support Constance. I am not satisfied at all. Joseph could have advocated for me; he has remained too neutral. I have not been satisfied with the negotiations because the entire group has pitted against me. They have decided Bernadette is worthless because she is sick and that the land is not hers. I probably could have toned down the sick card because the pity play backfired a little. Friedrich could have been more assertive and made a negotiation with me; however, the land ownership seems to be tilting in Ancille's favor. I will probably enter a deal with Ancille and Perpetune where they support me (but mostly my daughter) with my former land. Friedrich will either make a deal with the female neighbors or even Charles. We will also start discussing who can make the decisions. I predict it will be a democratic village decision and maybe Joseph will have a say. I don't see it ending well for Charles. Bernadette
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4/9/2014 13:29:10We have mainly discussed the issues of where the cattle should graze and the land ownership. Joseph was voted to chair the meeting, but there hasn't been much discussed about Charles. The main points that have been discussed are land ownership and cattle grazing. Perpetune and Ancille have an agreement about the land and plan to support Constance. Freidrich believes that he needs a lot of land for his cattle and is willing to provide milk to others. Everyone has said he or is willing to cooperate. Charles has offered half of his land to Friedrich in exchange for cowsMy main argument was that the land is mine and my husband would have willed it to me if he was prepared to die. Their response was that I have no idea if he would have given it to Jean and now by law the Jean is the owner. However, Jean died so the land is Anne's. They have basically agreed that the land is in no way mine and I am just a sick old woman that will probably die. They want to take care of Constance because she is the future. We have agreed to let Joseph chair the meeting and in a 5-1 decision (the 1 being me) that the land doesn't belong to Bernadette. I threw papers and acted emotionally traumatized which escalated the conflict. Perpetune took me outside for a water break because my character was emotionally involved. She also wanted to offer to support Constance. I am not satisfied at all. Joseph could have advocated for me; he has remained too neutral. I have not been satisfied with the negotiations because the entire group has pitted against me. They have decided Bernadette is worthless because she is sick and that the land is not hers. I probably could have toned down the sick card because the pity play backfired a little. Friedrich could have been more assertive and made a negotiation with me; however, the land ownership seems to be tilting in Ancille's favor. I will probably enter a deal with Ancille and Perpetune where they support me (but mostly my daughter) with my former land. Friedrich will either make a deal with the female neighbors or even Charles. We will also start discussing who can make the decisions. I predict it will be a democratic village decision and maybe Joseph will have a say. I don't see it ending well for Charles. Bernadette
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