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1 | Question Report Session 36 East | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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4 | Session No 36: Engineered Packages & Systems (Eastern) | 850 7894 1015 | 11/21/24 1:50 | 12 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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7 | 1 | on the skid with the 2 booster pumps, that were installed on a bigger baseplate with the inlet and discharge piping, what do we do with the baseplates? Do we grout the big one AND the two individual pump baseplates? Can we have an OH2 baseplate without grouting? | George Paradissis | The two pump individual sub-bases would not require grouting. The main baseplate could be designed either as a structural steel baseplate, self supporting, non-grout; or as a structure requiring grouting. It is up to you the customer. | |||||||||||||||||||||
8 | 2 | Vibration Issues - Do we also make use of vibration isolators ? | Shivkumar Dalal | Yes when necessary, which will be particularly necessary on larger more complex skids. Vibration analysis is part of the design process | |||||||||||||||||||||
9 | 3 | Is the delivery time increased with respect to ordering pumps only? | Thanasis Kefaliakos | Yes it will be longer. The time savings show themselves at site. Bringing in a complete self-contained skid, ready to go, plug-and-play; compared with months and months of site installation component by component | |||||||||||||||||||||
10 | 4 | For modular construction, do you have any RPH std. design approach or follow Client specs ? | Shivkumar Dalal | Yes we do have our own design standards (which are based on established International Standards). These will be most frequently used on low complexity packages. More complex packages and those for major EPCs, oil & gas companies, major utilities companies and similar, will follow the Standards and Specifications supplied by those companies. So in short - if you send us specifications we will follow them to the letter; if you don't we will apply our own standards. | |||||||||||||||||||||
11 | 5 | API 610 provides vibration limits for shop testing of the pumps. Are there any different vibration limits for pumps operating at site or the same shop test limits apply for site testing as well? Are the vibrations at site expected to be lower or higher compared to shop testing? | Niranjan Pai | When pump companies carry out factory performance tests they are on temporarily rigged structures using flexible pipes and connections, which are far less solid and more flexible than the site installation on the structurally stronger baseplate (skid) with properly supported solid piping. Vibration levels on the site installation (the skid package) will be lower than the vibration levels found on the factory acceptance test. | |||||||||||||||||||||
12 | 6 | for diesel engine driven pumps should the torsional analysis be mandatory or is there any limit w.r.t KW rating above which it is mandatory. | shreyas apte | Torsional analysis is normally required for 3 component drive trains (diesel engine, gearbox, pump). Or when specified by the customer. Natural resonant frequency analysis is always necessary and site adjustments might well be necessary. | |||||||||||||||||||||
13 | 7 | Good morning, may we get this session? | Aurel Mares | Yes, all attendees will get a link to the You-Tube video recording of this session, a PDF version of the Presentation Slideshow complete with speaker notes, and the compiled Q&A session | |||||||||||||||||||||
14 | 8 | Is an API recommended standard for the engineering packaged pumping systems? | Aurel Mares | No there is no specific API Standard for packages | |||||||||||||||||||||
15 | 9 | Do you perform stress analysis on piping installed on the packages? | Thanasis Kefaliakos | Yes we do. | |||||||||||||||||||||
16 | 10 | Thank you and well done! | Aurel Mares | My pleasure | |||||||||||||||||||||
17 | 11 | We have a case during comissioning at site, pump skid will not be anchored and bolted to foundation because the pump is only a temporary pump for supporting plant comissioning purpose. Is that doable? Any concern from pump manufacturer (maybe vibration, etc)? | Benedictus Anggara | A temporary structure is likely to show higher vibration levels than a permanent structure. We would want to look at how the baseplate is secured - presumably some sort of clamping arrangement. Just having it "floating" is not a good idea. On the other hand it is only for a few weeks during commissioning so long lasting pump damage is unlikely. Size of pump is also important. A 5kW pumpset is a bit different from a 500kW pumpset. | |||||||||||||||||||||
18 | 12 | If we have any seal plan whether that is mounted on the same package skid? | Anonymous Attendee | Yes the seal support systems would also be mounted on the overall skid package. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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22 | Question Report Session 36 Western Hemisphere | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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25 | Session No 36: Engineered Packages & Systems (Western) | 831 5665 4539 | 11/21/24 10:54 | 28 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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28 | 13 | On those pump/piping combination skids. Can/does Ruhrpumpen run stress analysis on the piping/pump flanges? | Anonymous Attendee | Detailed anaysis is not necessary on small non-complex packages. Good engineering practice is sufficient. On larger complex packages it is a "must" and our customers would expect to see it | |||||||||||||||||||||
29 | 14 | What is a reasonable timeline to request the mentioned deliverables when bidding a pumping system for corrosive mediums cryo C02, DI Water, NH3-, ect..? | Anthonyt Farole | Quotes for non-complex packages can be done in as little as 2 weeks. Complex package quotes (like #5) will take 4-6 weeks | |||||||||||||||||||||
30 | 15 | What would be your average lead time for a complex eng.solution (ex. #5 mentioned)? Thank you. | Anonymous Attendee | 15-20 weeks for low complexity systems up to 30-40 for the more complex/large systems...we study industry needs to ensure we stay competitive for our customers | |||||||||||||||||||||
31 | 16 | What is the maximum size of single skid can be fit for transportation sea,air fright | Nallathambi Dharmalingam | Where possible we try to stay within standard truck sizes which are 48 ft L , 8 ft W, and 13 ft H. (14.6m x 2.4m x 4m) When the overall package exceeds this we modularise the package to keep within these dimensions. | |||||||||||||||||||||
32 | 17 | Can you offer acoustic enclosures / attenuation with the packaged equipment? | Craig Smith | Yes we can do sound attenuating enclosures. We can also do fire reistant enclosures H60, H120 (resistant to hydrocarbon fires for 60 & 120 minutes). We frequently do these for fire pump packages for platforms and refineries. | |||||||||||||||||||||
33 | 18 | When RP supply complete skids are included alignment of the coupling shafts and/or belt pulley system? | Oliver Valadez | Yes our site supervisors present for the installation and commissioning will ensure alignment (among many other checks). | |||||||||||||||||||||
34 | 19 | Do you take controls in your scope with these systems? What are some intersting solutions you have provided? Great suit by the way | Anthonyt Farole | Yes we do. We have electrical and control specialists in our team so this is certainly an area of expertise for us. Our dedicated front end quote team actually has mechanical & electrical designers as part of the front end team to allow for complete customization/detail even during the quoting stage | |||||||||||||||||||||
35 | 20 | where would the fabrication of the skid and piping be from? | Anonymous Attendee | We are a global company so the assembly and shipment point would be geographically decided. Monterrey, Mexico; Chennai, India; Germany; Egypt; China; UK; Brazil; Argentina | |||||||||||||||||||||
36 | 21 | These packages may be build in the closest workshop or only certain ones ? | Miguel Lopez | See above | |||||||||||||||||||||
37 | 22 | Does Ruhrpumpen provides their sub-vendor list within eng. systems proposals? (Ex. instrument supplier, valve supplier....) And accepts suppliers recommendations for specific items? | Anonymous Attendee | Yes we have a long list of internationally recognised suppliers we use regularly and we have some "preferred suppliers", but we also recognise and respect that many end users have preferred supplier lists as well. | |||||||||||||||||||||
38 | 23 | Thank you. Alway enjoy seeing the waistcoat and tie combos! | Craig Smith | My image - eccentric (mad?) English Professor! :) | |||||||||||||||||||||
39 | 24 | Are your team familiar with CSA (canada) standard? have your team built to CSA z662, B31.3 and B31.1 standard? | Anonymous Attendee | Yes we are familiar with the referenced Canadian Standards. In fact our Package Proposal Team is actually based in Canada! | |||||||||||||||||||||
40 | 25 | You carry out the design of the dampers and pulsation study for API 674 Pumps? | YAMIL MENA | Yes this is a "must" on all PD pumps (whether part of a package or not) | |||||||||||||||||||||
41 | 26 | CSA. CRN. not pleasant | Anonymous Attendee | Noted! | |||||||||||||||||||||
42 | 27 | Are you confortable quoating N+1 systems | Anthonyt Farole | Yes N+1 is we believe the concept of backup modules...yes we can custom build anything like this as needed according to spec requirement | |||||||||||||||||||||
43 | 28 | no single point failure | Anthonyt Farole | Noted. | |||||||||||||||||||||
44 | 29 | do you build pump packages only? do you deal with compressor, or turbine packages? | Anonymous Attendee | Yes we are happy to work together with suppliers of compressors, steam turbines, generators and other pump suppliers to provide an Engineered Package Solution | |||||||||||||||||||||
45 | 30 | Do you have a instrument air compressor package in your product line? | Nallathambi Dharmalingam | We do not ourselves manufacture instrument air compressors but would work with a supplier to provide a complete Package when required. | |||||||||||||||||||||
46 | 31 | thank you as always....good presentation | Sheldon Solomon | My pleasure. Thank you. | |||||||||||||||||||||
47 | 32 | Great session, take care | Anthonyt Farole | My pleasure. Thank you. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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