2021-2022 Derm Spreadsheet

	A	B	C	D	E	F	G	H	I	J	K
1		e	Pros	Cons	Overall Impression	Away Decision	Pre-Season Chit Chat			@	@

2	AL	UAB Birmingham				accepted x4, denied both
3	AR	UAMS				accepted x3
4	AZ	Mayo Clinic - Scottsdale
5	AZ	University of Arizona	hands on in that you see your own patients/write your own notes. likely residents will do biopsies. like to interview rotators			accepted	does the color mean its full?
6	CA	Kaiser				accepted x4
7	CA	Loma Linda				accepted
8	CA	Stanford				Denied x3; accepted x1
9	CA	Stanford (diversity)				accepted; denied
10	CA	UC-Davis					<- I guess somebody deleted this?? "accepted, denied x3"
11	CA	CA-Irvine	good mohs, dermpath, and oncoderm exposure			denied x2, denied x2	denied x2, denied x2
12	CA	UC-San Diego				accepted x4, denied X1	still waiting on Oct
13	CA	UCLA				accepted x3, denied x2, rejected x2	<that's weird, internal applicant here they told me they are not offering aways this year; they started offering aways late august, weren't for awhile
14	CA	UCLA-Harbor	Very hands on - you see your own patients, do your own biopsies, write your own notes (all with supervision). You join didactics with residents and do some additional clinic time (rotators start the kodachrome discussions by describing each lesion, so study how to describe things and have a good idea of very general dermatology DDx)	They don't interview all rotators (even if you do well) - would not recommend if you have no ties to SoCal as they yield protect. 10-minute presentation at the end of the rotation may impact decision to interview you (very high stakes). You must do fingerprints in-person, preferably before the rotation, so plan on being in california some time before then.	Great rotation if your goal is to serve very underserved patients in a county hospital and get hands-on experience. Do not do this rotation if you have no ties to Cali unless you just want more experience and do not care about matching back there.	Accepted x3
15	CA	UCSF				denied but this was weird < ??	why?
16	CA	USC				Accepted x2, declined x1	<- for when??
17	CO	Colorado		Never met the PD/APD/residents on their virtual rotation. It was just asynchronous didactics for two weeks with no benefit at all.		Virtual derm accepted x2	<- what dates were these for?	anyone doing the research in-person?	anyone heard anything about the research elective? yes accepted for September < is it virtual? < yes
18	CT	Connecticut	Great culture. Very hands on, oftentimes working directly with attendings. Lots of note writing, seeing patients independently and presenting	didn't get to know the residents very well because didn't work with them as much. One attending likes to keep med students late (think 7-8PM)		accepted x 2
19	CT	Yale
20	DC	GWU School of Medicine	Had a great experience. Was very hands on, and I got a publication and what I assume was a very strong letter from faculty here. Residents 10/10 and went out of their way to help me shine	Only two spots so despite getting an interview, it was stressful to know my chances of actually matching here were very slim		Accepted x2
21	DC	Howard
22	DC	Washington Hospital Center (July 2021)
23	FL	Largo		Rotates a ton of people but interviews not that many people. Ton of driving requires.		accepted (nexus) x5
24	Fl	Orange Park	Interview rotators during rotation.			accepted (nexus) x3
25	FL	Mayo Clinic (Jacksonville)	anything about this site??			declined
26	FL	Miami				accepted
27	FL	KCUMB - Orlando
28	FL	University of Florida	I'm pretty sure they interview all of their rotators. All shadowing. Amazing facilities. Great rotation. < Which UF location??			acceptedx4, declined, rejected
29	FL	University of South Florida (USF)				accepted x2
30	FL	Broward
31	FL	Larkin Palm Springs				accepted x5
32	GA	Emory		Travel between each site is bit of hassel	Make you travel to different rotations far away and med students are ignored	rejected, declined, accepted x2
33	GA	MCG	Very hands on, great residents and faculty			Acceptedx2
34	GA	PCOM
35	HI	UHawaii
36	IA	Iowa
37	IL	Cook County
38	IL	Loyola				rejected
39	IL	Northwestern (Med-Derm)	This rotation is really well structured, and you get to engage with many of the faculty (if you do the general derm away rotation). Northwestern has a reputation for many years of not interviewing their away rotators or research fellows, but 2/2 away rotators that I know of recieved invitations to interview. You can be as hands off or hands on as you would like. They don't expect you to do procedures, but some attendings will let you if you are interested and ask. Same goes for seeing patients on your own. The residents will always offer to see the patients with you, but all of the faculty let you see patients on your own if you want to. Chicago is incredibly fun, and there is a lot to explore, but it is on the more expensive side.	If you do the general derm rotation, you will work only in outpatient settings. In their advanced derm rotation, you will do only inpatient settings, but you will work with far fewer faculty, which can be a disadvantage. I think that the general derm rotation structure made it harder to hang out with the residents, which I was a bit bummed out about because the residents were really kind and fun.	One of the most wonderful months of 4th year! Having never been exposed to a T10 derm program, I was nervous and expected it to be formal and rigid. However, everyone was so approachable and interested. There is a TON of teaching that goes on. Feel free to ask questions in the columns to the right if you are interested in apply for their away! < This is so good to hear! Which of the rotations did you apply for, when did you hear back, how did you prepare, and did you recieve an interview?! Sorry for all the questions, deciding aways rn and struggling with making a decision on where! Thank you!!!< I applied just to the clinical dermatology rotation, but I know others who did to the advanced one. I heard back kind of late actually like > 6weeks after I applied I think. And something really annoying about away rotation applications is that you have to accept/reject an offer within 1 week of getting it. Since theyre rolling acceptances, I decided to reject like 4 different away offers in the hopes that I would hear back from Northwestern. So there was a purgatory time where I didn't have an away offer and didn't know if I would regret rejecting aways. I think I went into my away with pretty strong clinical knowledge (had been shadowing in derm for like 4 years on and off), but definitely do the AAD basic derm curriculum at the very least. And yes I recieved an interview!	rejected for august-september spot (spots filled)	Accepted 9/27; Accepted 9/27 Inpatient
40	IL	Rush				rejected
41	IL	SIU				acceptedx2
42	IL	UI-Chicago
43	IL	University of Chicago-Pritzker				Accepted (2), deniedx3
44	IN	Indiana	Away rotation is structured for broad rather than consistent exposure with one faculty. Translates to difficulty with getting strong letters from faculty members. Rotation hasn't changed structure regardless of feedback in previous years. Few of the faculty are difficult to work with and get easily stressed at the busier clinic, easy to find them on rotation but for these keep presentations short (literally cut out hpi, physical exam, just give diagnosis). Others will like more detail. < prominent attending asked me if i knew how stupid I sounded during a patient presentation < difficult rotation in terms of working with many attendings with different teaching/presentation styles and in different clinics with different patient populations but I came out much stronger in derm because of it. I also had no issue getting a couple of LORs during this time < pretty hands on with biopsy experience at VA, Klenk doesnt let students do anything	< I second this < will also add program has significant workflow issues: one hospital controls most of resident salary but has less volume, so for around 30 patients for am and pm clinic total, there will be 6 residents each clinic. Other hospital with much more patient volume/complexity has less funding for resident salary, so there will be two residents covering this for am and then pm. Seems to contribute to a lot of resident and attending stress, residents stay very late to finish notes on these patients. Also contributes to residents being pulled off of Mohs and dermpath rotations to cover clinic at this busier hospital, so very little exposure to these areas, important for both boards and fellowship. < significant DEI issues, Also residents here do not have time to do significant research due to heavy clinic, also important for fellowship, most go into private practice in midwest		accepted
45	KS	Kansas
46	KY	Louisville
47	LA	LSU - New Orleans				accepted
48	LA	Tulane				denied x3
49	MA	Boston University
50	MA	Harvard				denied, accepted, accepted	<Harvard is not offering aways in 2021 (per their website)...?	they are
51	MA	Tufts
52	MA	UMass	Pick your own clinic and disclipine every morning, daily noon didactics, just such a great and welcoming culture overall	You have read only EMR access as an away rotator which can get annoying	Fantastic rotation, best department culture I have seen in Derm	accepted	In person
53	MD	Hopkins				accepted
54	MD	Maryland
55	MD	Walter Reed Military Medical Center
56	MI	Henry Ford	They LOVE to match away rotators because they are not technically linked to a home program (wayne state kinda). Very diverse clinical experience from pigmented lesions, photoderm, CTCL, HS, peds, MKTP, EPP, you'll see a TON of different stuff. Residents and attendings are super nice and will try to teach you as long as your present yourself as being well read and eager to learn. I think the best thing about this program is its culture and how friendly the attendings and residents are.	Do NOT expect much autonomy or hands-on experience typically. However, if you show you know what you're doing, you'll be given chances to independently see patients in some clinics.	Really great rotation. Ranked HF>a top 10 program because of my interactions with the residents/attendings.	accepted x1
57	MI	Michigan				acceptedx2, deniedx1
58	MI	St Joseph Mercy	Rotation was 1-week virtual. Essentially joined in on all the resident didactics along with a journal club (chance to present on a paper of your choosing) and several sessions with faculty, a 10min exit interview with the PD and lots of Q&As with current residents. They made a strong effort to have us involved, had senior residents call us to tell us more about the program, their experiences and answer questions. All the faculty and PD were very pleasant. Overall good experience but obviously with the caviat that it was virtual.	Did a virtual rotation this year. Wasn't too fond of it. About 10 Q&A sessions which got boring very fast as people started to run out of questions to ask and started asking cringy things in an effort to appear interested. Not a great experience.	Don't waste your time < I think it is well worth doing the elective as all 18 applicants invited for IV had attended one of the virtual electives. They were even able to accommodate me joining whenever I could throughout the week since I was on another rotation at the time. No penalty for missing sessions and still got the IV invite.	acceptedx4	Was this recent? I contacted a week ago and had yet to set up auditions.
59	MI	Beaumont Trenton		Only one attending really cares about medical students. The PD hyperfixates on certain people and will quite literally ignore the other medical students. Poor first year residents there look so fish out of water with no guidance. Also dangerous how much they let their residents do with absolutely no supervision.	You'll spend most of your time in one clinic.
60	MI	Wayne State	Very chill. All shadowing. They will let you do stuff. Great culture.	No peds derm. They only interview people with a connection to Michigan.		rejected
61	MN	Mayo Clinic (Rochester)				accepted
62	MN	Minnesota (Med/Derm)		Cold. You will work at the intern level.	Not a very good experience at all. PD and attendings all ignore med students/away rotators.	Accepted, denied	Has anyone heard back from the UofM on September rotation?	rotating 10/25
63	MO	Missouri				denied
64	MO	SLU				acceptedx2""
65	MO	Wash U				accepted
66	MS	Mississippi				declined
67	NC	Duke				accepted
68	NC	UNC				Denied virtualx2, accepted virtual
69	NC	Wake Forest	can add one or two pubs to your belt with research rotation	Did NOT interview after completing away rotation, feldman letter useless for n = 1, in fact seemed to bring up passive aggressive energy from some interviewers	notes: does not interview all rotators, I did a virtual research rotation here, gave a signal, and published with the research team but was rejected. also n = 1 but some say letter from Feldman will help open doors, in my case did not, ended up with one interview from home program < I second this. Wake does not care if you have ties to the program or if you have worked with them. < Yes, this is completely true and also happened to me as well. Ties to the program including doing an away rotation means nothing.	Accepted (virtual) x4, Accepted in-person x3	how did you all apply for this? <Applied on VSAS x2
70	NE	Nebraska (July 2021)				Accepted for October rotation on July 15th
71	NH	Dartmouth				accepted, denied
72	NJ	Cooper of Rowan University				declined x1, accepted
73	NJ	Palisades
74	NJ	Rutgers-RWJMS
75	NM	New Mexico				offer, declinedx1, in person accepted x1	virtual experience offered: https://hsc.unm.edu/medicine/departments/dermatology/education/virtual-rotation-2021.html
76	NY	Albert Einstein				denied
77	NY	Columbia
78	NY	Cornell				Accepted x2
79	NY	Icahn at Mt. Sinai				Accepted, declined x1
80	NY	Northwell Health (North Shore-LIJHS)				Accepted x2
81	NY	NYMC
82	NY	NYU				Accepted
83	NY	Rochester
84	NY	Stony Brook
85	NY	SUNY Downstate				rejected
86	OH	Case Western Reserve University- UH				accepted x4	anyone else have radio silence for virtual? > yes x1	Just got a wave of emails saying was denied> what date/time?
87	OH	Case Western-MetroHealth				accepted - peds derm
88	OH	Cincinnati
89	OH	Cleveland Clinic	The away is observational only. Do not do this away rotation if you are expecting to come to the program or be offered an interview. The away itself is great for LEARNING ONLY.			Acceptedx5	They are not doing aways?
90	OH	THE Ohio State				accepted
91	OH	Wright State				accepted	mostly shadowing
92	OK	Oklahoma				Accepted (virtual)x1
93	OR	OHSU				Accepted x4	is their 10/25 block full?
94	OR	Samaritan Health	Great audition. Audition very few and only interview those people			Accepted
95	PA	Penn State	Amazing faculty, residents, culture!! Really care about your experience/learning. Got interview + strong LOR	Location, lots of rotators		Accepted
96	PA	Geisinger				Accepted, rejected (x3)
97	PA	Lehigh Valley				N/A
98	PA	Jefferson				Accepted x2, declined x1
99	PA	Penn				Accepted X 3
100	PA	Penn (Diversity)				rejected