Motorsports Incidents Above Wall 2000-2019
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YearDriverSeriesTrackTrack ShapeInitial Height Above WallImpact AreaWould Raising the wall in this spot obstruct grandstand view?Would a taller wall be viable/effective?Notes
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2000Geoff BodineNASCAR TruckDaytonaOval4-6 feetFront D-TurnyesNo, not without obstructing everyone's viewThis is one of the more infamous fence crashes, the truck barely gets above the wall but the fence just obliterates the car tearing it apart and send pieces everywhere including into the grandstands… 9 fans injured…. Don't think the fence did its job… probably one of the most violent accidents you'll see
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2001Davey HamiltonIndyCarTMSOval0-3 feetTurn 2 into back straightyesViable but would lose some (usually empty) seatingbrutal part was the angle/initial impact but the fence did the damage to his feet as the car lifted into the fence for even just a second, and the fence did the cheese grater style ripping off of the front of the car
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2003Kenny BrackIndyCarTMSOval6+ feetBack StraightyesViable but would lose some (usually empty) seatingThe highest G forces anyone has ever lived through in a crash… 215Gs…. All of it generated by fence grab…This is also another crazy case where the car is almost end to end vertical...I also don't believe most of the grandstands in this area are even used, so whats a wall gonna block??? At least another 3 feet...
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2005Ryan BriscoeIndyCarChicagolandOval4-6 feetTurn 3/4no100% DefinitelyThis wreck is a carbon copy many others especially Pablo Perez in 2007, the big difference is that Ryan got caught in the fence more which ripped the rest of the car away… I think folks would prefer a wall to slide off of rather than a fence that will rip the car in half...

just like Perez too (and Aleshin) its a part of track that has no view, no grandstands and already has billboards in the area, he hits right after the billboards
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2006Katherine LeggeIndyCarRoad AmericaRoad/Street6+ feetKinkno100% Definitely, but unlikely necessaryI still can't believe Katherine came out of this accident unscathed, she slams the wall with so much force it throws the car up which tags the fence and that impact with the fence actually throws the car back down
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2007Pablo PerezIndy Pro (Lights)Homestead-MiamiOval4-6 feetTurn 2no100% DefinitelyPablo wheel climbs another car and goes nose first into the fence which immediately rips the front of the car off. He would still make front first impact with a wall if taller, but at least that wouldn't do the damage to the front of the car (and his feet)...
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2009Carl EdwardsNASCAR CupTalledegaOval0-3 feetFront D-TurnyesNo, not without obstructing everyone's viewThis one is a pretty high crash, the car is launched/booted up by another. That said its also another example of when debris made it through the fence into the stands, and the fence also created a lot of that debris defeating the intended purpose
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2010Mike ConwayIndyCarIMSOval4-6 feetTurn 3no*100% Definitelythe catch fence 100% stopped Mikes entire car from going into the stands, luckily it hit bottom first… that said, the grandstands in this area are elevated, and in-fact the 6-ish feet of fence he hits is all below the start of the grandstands, it makes no sense not to make the wall at least as tall as the bottom of the grandstand
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2010Kasey KahneNASCAR CupPoconoOval0-3 feetBack Straightno100% DefinitelyThis is the only wreck on this list to take place entirely on a straightaway portion of a track, and even more bizarre, there was no fence at all (at the time), the car goes over the wall and actually brushes a few trees…
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2011Dan WheldonIndyCarLas VegasOval4-6 feetTurn 2no100% DefinitelyThe area he hit already has giant billboards behind the fence and no grandstands, so why not just make the giant billboards the wall itself? Would it have saved Dan.. We don't know, its an incredibly bizarre angle and force in this one, car nose to the sky and cockpit to the fence... with a tall wall would the roll hoop held up??? Not sure but it has to be an improvement over what happened...
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2011Simona De SilvestroIndyCarIMSOval0-3 feetTurn 3no*100% Definitelylike so many accidents, the car has already impacted the wall, and the fence just serves to spin the car and take the nose off
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2012Mike ConwayIndyCarIMSOval0-3 feetTurn 1 / Short ChuteyesViable but maybe only a few feetTechnically Mike did not make contact with the fence, but he rode the top of the wall for quite some time, he was inches away from being put into a spin or to impacting a fence pole
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2012Joey CoulterNASCAR TruckDaytonaOval6+ feetFront D-TurnyesNo, not without obstructing everyone's viewThis is probably the most extrodinary of the wrecks, the truck was totally end to end vertical when it impacts the fence, of all these it’s the only one I'd say its maybe 9+ feet above the wall where it hits the fence, this is a case where you have to wonder about removing low level grandstands AND adding some footage of wall
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2013Dario FranchittiIndyCarHoustonRoad/Street0-3 feetKinkyesnot viable, temporary road courseOf all the crashes, this one seems like the hardest to solve for. Mainly because it’s a temporary street course, and it was in a long straight kink, not an area you'd expect a crash. It really begs the question of how close should fans/grandstands, be allowed to be... but more this might just be one that can't be solved
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2013Kyle LarsonNASCAR MidDaytonaOval4-6 feetFront D-TurnyesNo, not without obstructing everyone's viewThis is yet another example of how the catch fence didn "do its job" as several fans were badly hurt by debris… and the majority of that debris was created by the fence itself, an engine, a tire, so many things up in the stands

I actually thought I remembered him being so much higher, but in slowed replays the car is actually riding the wall partially as it hits the fence, 3-4 feet higher wall and the car may just bounced back down...
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2014Mikhail AleshinIndyCarFontanaOval0-3 feetTurn 4no100% DefinitelyNot only are there no grandstands in this area, putting up a tall wall would block one of the ugliest views ever at a track

that said, this crash is pretty darn close to RobertWickens when it comes to the wall/fence potion of it, initially Aleshin impacts the wall but enough aero/speed etc. makes the car come on top the wall facing straight, at which point the right front wheeland then nose get caught by the fence which puts the tub into crazy spin with all the centrifical force on Aleshin
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2014Michael McDowellNASCAR CupWatkins GlenRoad/Street0-3 feetStraight but rurned wallno100% Definitely, but honestly this turn and wall placements should just be redesignedWhile McDowell hit the fence here it’s the first of many of these wrecks where the car impacts the fence straight on and the wall/fence act more like a soft catch
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2014Parker KligermannNASCAR CupDaytonaOval0-3 feetFront D-TurnyesYes, because this one is different than the other D-front accidents because he hit so low that simply raising the SAFER by 1-2 feet would have done the trick and not obstructed any views.Fence does contain some debris, but it also created that debris
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2015Charlie KimballIndyCarPoconoOval0-3 feetTurn 3no100% Definitelymost of the crash velocity was taken off by the SAFER wall but the car had enough to climb on top the wall and the catch fence which spun the car.Theres one fan/photographer on a grassy area, but no grandstand
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2015Ed CarpenterIndyCarIMSOval0-3 feetTurn 2no100% DefinitelyEd mostly impacts the wall, but like many of these, got backwards and that where air/heigfht came in, all the safety wall does is rips the back/bumper pods/wing off the car
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2015Austin DillonNASCAR CupDaytonaOval4-6 feetFront D-TurnyesNo, not without obstructing everyone's viewThe initial impact is 0'-3' but then the rest of the car hits 4'-6'. This one is a stark example of how catch fences actually don't work as intended, as several car parts go into the stands; in addition to that the car almost goes from 190 to a complete stop which is massively dangerous to the driver. There are tons of grandstands here so a wall would block their view.. but it also would have prevented both the previous issues cause the fence is actually what ripped all the pieces off, a taller SAFER and the car would brush up against it on its side.
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2015Ben KennedyNASCAR TruckKentuckyOval0-3 feetTurn 1yesYes its just at the start of turn would so would only obstruct a little of viewThis is going to sound like a repeat, but this was a simply spin and wall brush until the fence got involved, the fences job is to keep cars/debris away from fans, but in this case, the fence creates the debris.. If the wall is barely taller, no debris would have existed. plus it spins the car harder
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2017Scott DixonIndyCarIMSOval0-3 feetTurn 1/2 short Chuteno100% DefinitelyDixon was already coming down and actually impacted SAFER wall first, landing half on the wall which took most of the momentum off the car before the fence really comes into play (just like the wall should), where the catch fence played a role though is the car impacts a fence pole and that causes the car to go into the spin motion at the end and creates some more debris, photographer is hit by some of it
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2017Ed CarpenterIndyCarGatewayOval0-3 feetTurnno100% DefinitelyThis was a slower wreck so thankfully it wasn't worse, but all the catchfence contributed to doing was ripping some of the back of Ed's car off, there are no grandstands in this area
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2018Robert WickensIndyCarPoconoOval4-6 feetTurn 2no100% DefinitelyHere's the thing about Wickens crash, When you slow it down, he actually initially made impact with the SAFER wall, but the front wheel rolled ontop of the wall and climbed the car onto the wall, then aero lift took it up further where it then made eventual impact with the catch fence at about the 4-5' above the wall

if the SAFER wall were just 1 foot taller, the car may not have been able to climb up.also as will be a theme here, after the intial impact the car stayed parallel to the wall, even when riding the wall, it wasn't until the right front wheel hit the catch fence that it grabbed, spun, and disentegrated the car.
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2019Felix RosenqvistIndyCarPoconoOval0-3 feetTurn 2no100% Definitelymuch like above examples, car comes up and rides wall until catchfence causes debris and spin…
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