BCC Reconstruction Designs Survey (Responses)
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TimestampConceptual Design 1 (Opt. 6) - First Floor - tell us what you think:Conceptual Design 1 (Opt. 6) - Second Floor - tell us what you think:Conceptual Design 2 (Opt. 1 ver.B) - Third Floor - tell us what you think:Conceptual Design 2 (Opt. 1 ver.B) - Fourth Floor - tell us what you think:
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9/29/2017 6:15:13We need 6 lanes for the warm water pool. Also need a wall to divide the cold water pool from everything so that they can run swim meets without disrupting everyday stuff going on in the rest of the pool area.
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9/29/2017 6:53:21If possible, we should make the warm water pool slightly larger, and add an office for lifeguards/managers.Possibly add a track or some more weights/machines like at PDRC.I prefer the layout of the first design.
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9/29/2017 8:41:07A larger warm water pool with more like 4-6 lap lanes would be beneficial for water aerobics and swim lessons. Broomfield already has so ment activities going on in the pool at the same time, they need as much room as they can get. Same comment as above about the pool. Larger warm water pool The second design might be better.
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9/29/2017 9:18:56Good layout and flow in this designI like the fitness deckDon't like the basketball courts end to endNot sure Admin on the 2nd floor would be effective
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9/29/2017 9:34:43My family prefers design 1. Please consider a heated floor that could be turned off and on for the yoga studio. Obviously, no need for that during warm weather. However, current floor quite cold during winter.
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9/29/2017 11:10:58Like this one the best, I would just like to see Child Watch switched with classrooms to be closer to entry of building and the play ground should be connected to both rooms, not just Child Watch. (If possible)
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9/29/2017 13:43:50Love this design. I like how the warm pool is almost as big as the cold pool. And the fact that there is a therapy spa as well as a hot tub Love this as well Dislike this design. Makes the pool area look cramped and it doesn't have a therapy spa Dislike
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9/29/2017 13:57:14This one is better in that it doesn’t consume as much undeveloped land. Both plans could use a larger pool area and pools deep enough for diving
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9/29/2017 14:27:48I prefer this arrangement to Design 2 because the access to the kitchen (service drive) seems better located and Lakeshore is better connected to the view outside. I DON'T like either design's reduction of the warm water pool to a smaller size. It needs to be at least as large as the current pool (and as large as the proposed cold water pool). This is needed for the many classes and lessons that are held in the warm water pool. Don't turn it into a useless size like Paul Derda! It appears that both pools have a view to the reservoir outside, which I like. This design also seems to have a better entrance arrangement and flow through for the Seniors who need a waiting area before they come into Lakeshore for lunch. The parking lot and drop off also seems better.I prefer design 1 but would like to add this comment for both designs:
I DON'T like either design's reduction of the warm water pool to a smaller size. It needs to be at least as large as the current pool (and as large as the proposed cold water pool). This is needed for the many classes and lessons that are held in the warm water pool. Don't turn it into a useless size like Paul Derda!
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9/29/2017 14:53:29I like this design better than the second design. However, I think the pool needs to be on par with what Paul Derda has. With the influx of people coming into our area, it would be nice to have another place when Paul Derda has a full pool, or other things going on. Also, I think a community room that's big enough to hold events that some of the schools in the area might use, or for private use to rent, would be nice. One thing I always liked about my rec center in my home town was a running digital clock hung above the track in order to pace my running time. Also, even though I like design number 1 better, I think a game room is a great addition. I have a child with eczema and he's not always up for swimming and it would be nice to have an option for him when he can't get in the pool.
Also, the vending machines at Paul Derda use to have a nice variety until someone decided to make things "healthy." However, I would like to see vending machines with a normal variety of options. My kids use to love getting a treat when their grandfather would take them to the pool. Now, we have diet soda options (aspartame) and granola bars. Please put some better vending machines in the rec centers. What you have now is terrible.
It's okay. Not as good as design 1.
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9/29/2017 15:11:43We need to make sure that the front desk is facing the public when they come in the doors. This is a huge issue at Paul Derda and we need to make sure the design is set so the public approaches the desk as they come in and not a way to just walk through it.We need to make sure that the front desk is facing the public when they come in the doors. This is a huge issue at Paul Derda and we need to make sure the design is set so the public approaches the desk as they come in and not a way to just walk through it.
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9/29/2017 16:08:40I am confused about the one entrance that might be hard to see from the other end of the parking lot, on the other side of the gym.Will the fitness deck be outside? That doesn't sound feasible in the winter.I like this entry version better- it's visible from the whole parking lot.It might be a little crowded on the top on the north side, but I can't tell for sure.
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9/29/2017 16:23:43Definitely this design. Simply because it has the patio and decks facing the water and the layout seems to make more sense.
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9/29/2017 19:02:46I think this first design is good for me and easy for everyone to get in and out like at Paul Derda.Very good design so I go for the first designI still go for the first design I still go for the first design
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9/29/2017 19:54:38Do people really want a cold pool?? I like the running track
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9/29/2017 20:17:48I like this design! I like design 1 first floor more than this one but I would be ok with this because of the 2nd floor track.
The track is a great addition!!
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9/30/2017 1:21:17I really like the patio off the Lakeshore rooms. This is my vote!Love the track above the gym.
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9/30/2017 11:18:52The shape of the Lakeshore Room will be difficult to work with for rentals and classes. The patio needs to be along the entire room to make it more desirable for rentals and events and there doesn't appear to be any room for a grass area connected to the Lakeshore room for weddings or just play area for kids attending events. Seems like there is a lot of "lounge" and pre function space in this design and lots of walking around in circles. Service and circulation along the north side of the building will be problematic in the winter. This area will accumulate snow and ice. The "child watch" playground on the north side of the building is a bad idea (note the problems at the PDRC outdoor playground). I assume classrooms 1 and 2 will be used for Early Learning programs since I don't see rooms specifically designated for this program. If so, their location close to the child watch area is desirable. The outdoor playground could be moved to the front of the building with access from all three of these rooms. If the outdoor playground is on the West side of the building there will need to be adequate shade provided over the entire play area. Administration is in a good spot across from the control desk, which helps with providing support to the control staff. It may be beneficial to have an additional "small" control desk to handle busy times, especially when the "Older Adult" programs are the busiest and during lunch check-in. The amount of fitness space is great in this design, however I don't exactly understand the lower level fitness areas located at the end of the locker room corridor. I am sure staff has a specific idea about what would happen in this area but they seem strangely removed from the rest of the fitness areas. I assume RR is restrooms and the "red" area is the elevator? Will the one central restroom area on the lower level be adequate for the Lakeshore, child watch, Early Learning, classroom and staff uses? The gymnasium at the front of the building doesn't seem very attractive or inviting as it will likely be a big solid brick wall. It also hides and shades the front entrance. This could also create some issues in the winter and parking appears to be quite a distance from the entry. With lots of "older adults" using this facility there needs to be plenty of close in parking. The swimming pool area and general description seems great but I would like to know more about the size of the pools and amount of deck space. Will there be deep water and a diving board, any fun play features like slides, lazy river, waterfalls, etc. I don't see any STORAGE space!!!!! Overall I am NOT excited about this design. Lots of circulation issues and what appears to be wasted space.Wonderful amount of fitness area and classrooms. The circulation area in front of the fitness studios will NOT be sufficient! There will be major traffic jams in this hallway between classes. Still need STORAGE space. With both designs there will be admission issues with "fee based and non-fee based programs on the second floor.This is a much more attractive design with better flow. The Lakeshore room has a much more functional shape and the patio spans the full room making it attractive for rentals and events. It would be nice to have some grass area beyond the patio for outdoor use such as weddings and play area for kids. Again the lounge and pre function area seems a little excessive but it is in a much more functional area and shape. The service areas are much easier to reach in this design. I assume classrooms 1 and 2 will be used for Early Learning programs since I don't see rooms specifically designated for this program. If so, their location close to the child watch area is desirable. I don't see an outdoor playground for child watch or the Early Learning program, which is critical. Maybe the child watch and Early Learning could be together, either on the east or west side (west would be best in my opinion) of the building with a joint outdoor playground. If the outdoor playground is on the West side of the building there will need to be adequate shade provided over the entire play area. Administration on the second floor is really removed and does not provide staff with a connection to the participants and activities in the facility or support for the control desk. It may be beneficial to have an additional "small" control desk to handle busy times, especially when the "Older Adult" programs are the busiest and during lunch check-in. The amount of fitness space is great in this design, however I don't exactly understand the lower level fitness areas located at the end of the locker room corridor. I am sure staff has a specific idea about what would happen in this area but they seem strangely removed from the rest of the fitness areas. I assume RR is restrooms and the "red" area is the elevator? Will the one central restroom area on the lower level be adequate for the Lakeshore, child watch, Early Learning, and classroom uses? The front entrance is much more inviting, open and accessible from the parking lot. With lots of "older adults" using this facility there needs to be plenty of close in parking. The swimming pool area and general description seems great but I would like to know more about the size of the pools and amount of deck space. Will there be deep water and a diving board, any fun play features like slides, lazy river, waterfalls, etc. I don't see any STORAGE space!!!!! Overall I think this design is much better and more functional with better circulation. Wonderful amount of fitness area and classrooms. The layout of the fitness areas in design 2 are much better; having the track, weight room and cardio areas together is better and the circulation area for the fitness studios is much more functional allowing for more room for participants to wait for the next class. Still need STORAGE space. With both designs there will be admission issues with "fee based and non-fee based programs on the second floor.
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9/30/2017 16:37:02I like how the pool overlooks the lake.I like the fitness deck.I think the pool should overlook the lake.The shape of this floorpan is really cool.
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9/30/2017 20:44:05Would love a racquetball court.
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9/30/2017 22:24:56Design 1 looks to be a better overall design
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10/1/2017 7:49:09Concept #2 has a better feel.
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10/1/2017 17:44:50I prefer the design 2
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10/2/2017 9:27:43We NEED a racquetball court. We NEED a racquetball court.
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10/2/2017 14:06:12Playground for kids? Outdoor grass area for weddings/functions, overview of lake? Gyms at entrance - not sure how that would look - big boxes/appearance of facility. Warm pool does not seem big enough - smaller than it is now for swim lessons and water aerobics classes. Sauna or steam room? Party rooms for kids birthday parties by pool. Any fun pool features - love the rope swing. Hope you are keeping that.Seating for pool area above or on deck? Make sure fitness rooms are big and have storage. Storage at PDRC is great!Like the layout better than design 1. Playground? Like the patio. Senior lounge and woodshop seem really big compared to classrooms. Is there a preschool and a child sitting room - only looks like one room. Need to have child sitting! Same concepts about pool - bigger warm water pool. Therapy pool seems small. Is that therapy or a family hot tub?
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10/3/2017 9:54:04The Lakeshore room is a little odd-shaped, and the outdoor deck between buildings makes no sense. Is the woodshop being that close to the kitchen a good idea? I don't want sawdust in my lunch. I like the senior lounge being right across from Lakeshore, But it's quite a ways from the entrance to walk.A lot of fitness studiosLike the Lakeshore patio better on this design. And I like the more immediate access to the senior lounge from an entrance.The admin area right above the woodshop? Good luck with noise. The fitness studios are super spread out - would be nicer to have them together more. The woodshop right next to Lakeshore again? Makes no sense - that's the loudest room in the building.
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10/3/2017 14:54:17Concept two gets my vote
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10/4/2017 10:36:00I like the diagonal design choice. It's fun! I also like the circulation paths in this one. I also like the lounge next to the patio. Seems more inviting than the open lounge in design 2.I love the second floor rooftop deck.My favorite - It's smart to have the patio next to the Lakeshore rooms, but as an artist having the patio next to the art space was a lovely fit. It also seems like you might get some nice solar gain on the pools to naturally warm them more than in the other design.I wish the upper patio faced the mountains, but I thought it was a more practical space for the admin offices. I'd pick design 2 if I was in charge. Thank you for allowing feedback!
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10/4/2017 11:33:09#1
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10/4/2017 11:34:14Design 1 looks better
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10/4/2017 11:38:362
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10/4/2017 11:42:44
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10/4/2017 11:43:33I like the bigger patio
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10/4/2017 11:44:16
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10/4/2017 11:45:12I love this design! The idea of more locker rooms, more pools and child care by the other child classrooms is a wonderful idea for nut-free area containment. The fitness studios upstairs is a great addition! But I do love the indoor track idea of Conceptual design #2 - It's hard to have it all in 1 design. Indoor tracks are widely popular in winter. I do not like this design as much. Seems crowded Indoor track makes this design very appealing
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10/4/2017 11:46:31Second one with deck facing lake.
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10/4/2017 11:47:04I like this one. It seems to flow better and be better organized. I also like the childcare area in the back. Seems safer.
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10/4/2017 11:54:28Like this one the best.
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10/4/2017 11:57:34This has a pretty good flow and is more compressed than Design 2. Has an outdoor pool been considered? I realize that would only be only seasonal but being outside is a Colorado virtue. I like the Lakeshore Patio concept.Is their a running track above the courts? I like the fitness deck facing west.I like this design the best mostly because of the second floor running track above the courts especially if you can see into the pool area. I also like the patio off of the Lakeshore Rooms - that can be an asset depending on how they are used.I like design two but would prefer the fitness deck to face the west. Does the running track have glass to keep it somewhat open to the natatorium?
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10/4/2017 12:00:05Concept 2
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10/4/2017 12:01:12I definitely prefer design 1 over design 2. Basketball court layout makes more sense in #1. There are more exits, which seems safer. Weight room is included, which I didn't see in design #2. Overall, seems like it'll enable a good flow of foot traffic to all areas.Good sized classrooms and fitness studios.How would you get to the basketball courts? Looks like it could get congested in the BB court and pool areas, especially after school when lots of kid programs (and their parents) need access to those areas. No weight room in design 2? One positive feature is the open drop off area in the front of the building.Classrooms seem small.
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10/4/2017 12:03:17I really like the outdoor patio area. One of the many pleasures of life in Colorado are the weather and the outdoors. Many people in Colorado cherish that and like to embrace that. This is a major advantage of design 2 over 1. I really like the outdoor fitness space-area. One of the many pleasures of life in Colorado are the weather and the outdoors. Many people in Colorado cherish that and like to embrace that. This is a major advantage of design 2 over 1.
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10/4/2017 12:04:52I like that the pool area looks out over the lake. I also like that the patio and Lake shore rooms are close to the pool. I think that design 1 has a better flow.I don't like that the pool does not have a patio in this design
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10/4/2017 12:08:00Lockers between gyms and pools are a good idea. May need larger weight room.I assume there is a running track around gyms but it is not labeled I don't see a weight room for this design.
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10/4/2017 12:08:13Conceptual design 2 is best.Conceptual design 2 is best.
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10/4/2017 12:08:25
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10/4/2017 12:10:38Preferably this option to preserve parking space.
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10/4/2017 12:28:44
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10/4/2017 12:30:46Design 2
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10/4/2017 12:38:21Where is the playground? Doesn't the preschool and child watch need that?
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10/4/2017 12:39:17I like Conceptual Design 1 better. I like that the hot tub Ian in between the hot and cold pools. The locker room set up also makes more sense to me.
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10/4/2017 12:43:55
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10/4/2017 12:44:31I love the pool setup here, but the bb courts are a little awkward. the lakeshore rooms are also perfect there, in my opinionkind of a bummer that the gym can't overlook the lake, otherwise I like itI don't love this design, but it is nice that the basketball courts are close to the pool, and I love the patio locationnot much input here, it seems fine
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10/4/2017 12:45:11I like this better than concept 1. I feel having the pool windows toward the North would allow more consistent natural light in throughout the day. More aesthetically pleasing. Pool equip room would block south sun in Concept 1.Love that the admin offices are up here as opposed to the main level on option 1.
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10/4/2017 13:02:18I like this one because the Lakeside room is over looking the lake. But the Pool and gym I like the look of #1 But the location is good. Also is there any place for the Camp Explorer to be?
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10/4/2017 13:09:54
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10/4/2017 13:17:15Like the layout of this design much more than design 1. Appears more efficient to me.Design 2 much nicer.
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10/4/2017 13:17:32Not sure what a fitness deck is and it's purpose? Looks nice tho!! Like the fitness rooms. Need a track for walking/ running please. Nice large patio adjacent to Lakeshore Room. Walking/running track essential. Hopefully it would have lots of windows!
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10/4/2017 13:24:23This is a great design. It will help accommodate more classes and compete with other gyms in the area. Don't care for this smaller design at all
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10/4/2017 13:23:17I like design #2!
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10/4/2017 13:31:30No.No.Yes. As a Broomfield resident, I would like to have a running track on the second floor.Yes. As a Broomfield resident, I would like to have a running track on the second floor.
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10/4/2017 13:40:19
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10/4/2017 13:55:43
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10/4/2017 14:07:22I do not like that the child care center is at the end of a hall by an exit. This set up just doesn't look like the areas people would be doing classes etc are centerly located. To find which room you want you would be looking down halls. Much prefer Plan #2. I do like the kitchen and Lakeshore areas in #1 better. Looks like they have more room.I like this plan better because all the social activities are more centrally located. Child care room is easy to see and find, The sports activities are together on one end. I would vote for design #2.
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10/4/2017 14:16:39I don't like design 1 as well as I do design 2I like design 2 betterI like design 2 a lotI like design 2
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10/4/2017 14:24:29Where is the Preschool Room and the playground? Is it going to be below the fitness studio? Thinking that would be really loud.Where is the preschool room and outdoor playground?
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10/4/2017 14:28:02Design 1
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10/4/2017 14:51:39I like Design #2 for a few reasons, the bigger patio for the lakeshore room and the running track above the basketball courts, great for winter workouts!
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10/4/2017 14:57:23
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10/4/2017 15:00:10I prefer design 2 because it takes advantage of the view of the lake. Water features are rare and this design gives people a better opportunity to enjoy nature. The fitness deck and patio look wonderful. PLEASE enlarge the warm water pool. Currently many seniors use this facility for the pool and the city needs to continue to provide a space for them.
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10/4/2017 15:37:03
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10/4/2017 15:57:53Design 2
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10/4/2017 16:17:42DEsign 1 Would really love outdoor lap/swim pool
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10/4/2017 16:29:25I like design 1
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10/4/2017 16:30:28Prefer Design 2
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10/4/2017 16:54:45This looks very crowded to me. And with all the rooms blocking the windows, it seems like the halls would be pretty dark.To repeat what I said about the first floor, this design seems very crowded and dark.I really like the openness in the Design 2 first floor. It has a much more social and friendly feel than the Design 1 first floor.This floor also seems more open and light than the 2nd floor in Design 1.
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10/4/2017 17:02:06Love the pool design
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10/4/2017 17:21:05Design 1.
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10/4/2017 17:35:47Is there a running track in Design 1? Nothing is labeled as such.
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10/4/2017 17:44:14This is by far the better design. Better flow, with better views for the seniors and the pool. Love the larger Lakeshore Room, and larger senior lounge.Like the outdoor fitness deck, and love the senior deck on 1st floor.Bad flow. I don't think you want a wood shop directly underneath the Admin area! Do not think this is a good design.Odd flow. Not a fan.
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10/4/2017 17:49:12Probably 2, because of the similarity (Lakeshore Rooms-wise), though am concerned about a single entrance for all activity.
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10/4/2017 19:45:08Don't like the hot tubs in the middle, too noisy for comfort. Seniors like a gathering area for coffee and hanging out. The current one is cozy and well used before morning yoga and exercise class.No track around gym. too much unused space.Like the Lakeshore room lined up with patio. Nice for weddings and group events. Would like open lounge in front of Lakeshore. Folks like to hang out in open area, not stuck in a room. Current set up works well. Senior classes (yoga and exercise) overfill the current setup of using 2 of 3 Lakeshore rooms. Need a bigger space for our active seniors.
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10/4/2017 20:31:43 I like this design better than Design 1. I like the running track, which I don't think design 1 has, and I like the deck that looks out over the lake. Is the current senior center (the new addition to the old rec center) going to stay?

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10/4/2017 20:47:15There is no labelled track on the second floor. Should’have an indoor run/walk track .
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10/4/2017 21:02:38I like design 1 better, having the lockers between the pool and the gym is preferable. I distributed this information to about 500 pickleball players in the Broomfield area. Many of these play at BCC as well as the outdoor facilities at 116th and Teller and at Anthem Ranch. Their big question is "where are the pickleball courts?" It would be great if they are shown in the gyms. With the large number of players that fill the BCC courts 6 days a week, the addition of 3 addtional courts would significantly reduce the waiting time, and would incourage even more participation. Thanks for your consideration.

Bernie Mills, Pickleball Ambassador for the Broomfield area.
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10/5/2017 7:47:16Really like the hot tub and therapy pool in the center of the main pools. Much better layout that seems to flow. This design clearly defines the fitness from education. Patio for Lakeshore still overlooks the lake as well as the room itself. This one wins!Mountain views from the track and fitness deck as well as lake view from the pool, perfect!Don't like admin on the second floor. They should be close to the entry.
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10/5/2017 8:11:14Love the walking track upstairs!!
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10/5/2017 8:51:41I prefer this design over Conceptual Design 2
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10/5/2017 9:36:20
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10/5/2017 10:45:30I like the larger circulation between the gyms and lockers which also allows for access that doesn't require people walking accross courts that are in use. I like no circulation between the lockers and pools. I like that it is more compact and has less impact on surrouonding paths,roads, runoff, and streamsI wish the fitness deck could be near the other fitness centers, but I like that all fitness centers are adjacent to each othercirculation too small. fitness studio in awkward location. It feels more spread out and less accessible and having a higher impact on the surrounding landscape. The best benefit of this plan is the ability to repurpose existing building area on top of the new additionsI like the raised track and that the track is near the fitness studio and as is the fitness deck.
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10/5/2017 11:05:25I prefer the more compact layout of Design 1. I would really love to see a dry sauna added. Sauna can be so beneficial for many health issues, and many in the community could benefit. Since moving to Broomfield I've found that accessing a sauna in the Broomfield area, for a reasonable cost, is very difficult.
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10/5/2017 14:34:01This one looks good!I like this.
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10/5/2017 15:50:29Design 1
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10/5/2017 16:26:48I like Conceptual Design 1.
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10/5/2017 17:53:51I like that this design has the meeting rooms facing towards the pond area, as well as the patio area.I like that this design has a larger patio area.
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10/5/2017 18:24:31My concern is not with design, but with the dimensions and usable space in the warm water pool. At times, we have had up to 47 participants in our arthritis classes who need enough space to move. With the loss of space due to entry on one side and the well on the other side, how many yards of chest high water is going to be available compared to the existing pool? If this question is not applicable in this forum, would you please direct me to a contact regarding these questions?
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10/5/2017 19:51:09Very nice layout but the hot tub and therapy pool separating the 2 pools doesn't seem like the best idea but the floor plan allows access to all rooms very well. doesn't look like a lot of seating area on the swim deckwould like view-age of pool from up-er deckI like the layout of the pool deck and how the hot tubs are out of the way which is a major bonus for swim meets.use the north west corner where it is labeled 'roof below' as seating area for viewing the pools
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10/5/2017 20:33:46I like the conceptual design 2 layout best
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10/5/2017 21:24:12I hope Broomfield will seriously consider a design with 8 to 10 cold pool lanes. Unlike other rooms, or even future additions, once the pool is there, it can't be enlarged. This is Broomfield's only lap pool for serious swimming. It will serve both high schools, and many teams from youngsters to masters. I hope that Broomfield will pursue 8 to 10 swim lanes in the cold lap pool. A design where the hot tub is closer to the cold pool would be most utilized, as it is the cold pool swimmers that tend to use the hot tub more. I like the idea of an indoor track, but please make it so the curves aren't right angles. Too hard on the feet, and dangerous at sharper corners.
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