Joyful Systems FOSS projects survey 2012: hledger
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Timestamp1. How much time have you spent using or working with this project in the past ?2. How often do you use/work with this project currently ?3. How much do you need this project, or something quite like it, currently ? 4. How are you likely to participate this year ?5. Why/how did you get started with this project ?6. Why did you stop, if you did ?7. What have you used it for ?8. What do/did you like best about it ?9. What do/did you like least about it ?10. Your contact info, for uniquification and clarification/followup ?
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2/23/2012 9:00:55More than a yearOftenStrong needUsing it, Keeping an eye on IRC or mail list, perhaps a bug report now and then, QA, bug tracking, discussion, Blogging, technical writing, artwork, marketing, Debugging, coding, architecture discussion, Donations, bounties, contract work, project management & cleanupI used and liked ledger first. I wanted to try a haskell version. Performance started out slow and after a while became fast. It has been reliable for me (Haskell and tests help me keep the bug count down) and capable enough for my basic day to day needs.Keeping an accurate record of my (non-cash) transactions, preparing tax returns, tracking time, client billing, tracking household and organizational finances, learning real-world haskell development, exploring UI ideas, clarifying my accounting process, learning bookkeeping.Building something that helps me solve practical real-life problems, making a stressful chore more fun, the haskell language & ecosystem, robustness and maintainability of the code, documentation, platform independence, learning useful business skills, communityCan consume too much unpaid time, working alone, haskell makes some kinds of dynamism/modularity/pluggability/customizability hard, recompilation adds friction, churn in platforms/compiler/libraries generates lots of costly maintenance work, cross-platform UIs are hard, difficulty of creating richer and more useful reports and chartsSimon Michael (sm)
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2/23/2012 10:36:381 year or lessOftenStrong needUsing it, Keeping an eye on IRC or mail list, perhaps a bug report now and then, Blogging, technical writing, artwork, marketingDon't remember where I heard about it initially. I like working on the command line. It was fast to get started, but took some time to figure some things out (due to the intersection of accounting knowledge required in addition to figuring out the program itself).Doing the accounting for my new company.Working on the command line, simplicity, making me understand accounting principles better.I would like to be able to contribute to the coding, but I still have a lot to learn! (So I would liked to have checked "Debugging, coding, architecture discussion", but can't realistically... yet.)betabug
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2/23/2012 11:04:311 year or lessOccasionallyStrong needUsing it, Keeping an eye on IRC or mail list, perhaps a bug report now and thenTrying an alternative to ledger... looking into writing my own importer that ties into hledger stronger than the pure CSV import (currently too complex)Keeping track of personal financesA leaner interface to ledger, some stuff that ledger does not have (web interface, interactive add, bar charts on the command line)The absence of tagging?matthias.wolf
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2/23/2012 12:07:21More than a yeardailyStrong needKeeping an eye on IRC or mail list, perhaps a bug report now and thenHad been using ledger happily but tried to upgrade (stupidly) at one point and couldn't rebuild the ledger executable (the build/dependency process is pretty complex). Really needed access to my ledger files and happened to have the haskell platform installed. Installation just worked. i don't use anything very ledger specific in my journals and so things worked out really well.management of personal financesInstall is really easy. The ledger install is a PIA (although I did manage to get it going again recently using the brew recipe).

Really nice cli help.

Decent web page/manual.

I've decided I like 'hledger add' even though I am an emacs user and previously used the ledger emacs mode (although see next question)

alternative i/f's. I use the terminal and web i/fs - they are great.
Wish 'hledger add' inserted in date order (in fact my current primary use of ledger is to use the 'ledger print' command when my journal formatting gets too out of whack). I regularly dig into the raw journal file (especially when reconciling stuff) and it would definately be easier if this was maintained in better order.

Wish you had completion on desc when using 'hledger add'

I often get ahead of myself when entering xacn's in 'hledger add' and end up entering amounts for accounts etc. I don't know of any easy way to back up from this apart from quitting entirely and then starting the xacn again.
philip.rooke
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2/23/2012 12:27:311 month or lessNeverNo real needUsing itUsing ledger, was curious about a different implementationCouldn't build form source, didn't feel like trouble shooting itenderw88
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2/23/2012 13:06:16More than a yearOccasionallyModerate needUsing itI heard about hledger from ledger. I tried it because of the web interface : I want to convert my mpother from MS Money to open source. My initial experience is that hledger is close to ledger 2.6, but lags compared to ledger 3.0.i did not stop, but majority of use is ledger.personal accountingweb interface compared to ledgerlag compared to ledger
hledger is not compatible with comma decimal separator
thierry.daucourt
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2/23/2012 13:14:35More than a yearOftenStrong needUsing it, Keeping an eye on IRC or mail list, perhaps a bug report now and then, QA, bug tracking, discussion, Blogging, technical writing, artwork, marketing, Donations, bounties, contract workStumbled across ledger-cli looking for ways to do more with text-files at the command-line, stumbled across hledger as a friendly fork that seemed to me to be more stable, better documented and easier to use. I like the fact that I can move back and forth between the two versions, taking advantage of the features of both. still using ittracking sales, income and expenses for freelance work and a retail enterprise.that it is small, fast, comprehensible and flexible. I would also say that the strong community and the active and responsive code-base is important.somewhat clumsy and/or error-prone data input, and the lack of a clear path to excellent hardcopy, other than that, like it a lot.djp
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2/23/2012 13:26:421 year or lessOftenStrong needUsing it, Keeping an eye on IRC or mail list, perhaps a bug report now and thenSmall business accounting on the command-line.That it is plain text, usable from Emacs and possible to put under version control with Git. Very portable.I miss the forecasting support from C ledger.sepposade
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2/23/2012 20:03:162 weeksOccasionallyStrong needUsing it, QA, bug tracking, discussion, Debugging, coding, architecture discussion, Donations, bounties, contract workI wanted a Haskell package for accounting.I need to first convert Grisbi data into hledger to see and analyze reports.Testing.Uses Haskell.Reports can be enhancedmbuf
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2/23/2012 20:49:381 month or lessOccasionallyStrong needUsing itI wouldn't trust my accounts to something not written in Haskell, lol.I couldn't be bothered doing my accounts.tracking expenses and stuffThe basic ledger features: it's text-based and elite.It's not like I enjoy doing budgets or taxes, but that's not really a shortcoming of hledger :)kfish
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2/24/2012 4:44:391 year or lessOccasionallyStrong needUsing itI use ledger regularly and I love Haskell.Personal finances and work financesIt's like ledger (text-based) and it's written in Haskell. Being able to use the same input files as ledger is key.It's slower than ledger at using large input files. That's not a big deal, though.
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2/24/2012 8:32:541 year or lessOftenModerate needUsing it, Keeping an eye on IRC or mail list, perhaps a bug report now and then, QA, bug tracking, discussion, Blogging, technical writing, artwork, marketingVia the ledger mailing list. Mainly CSV conversion, and as comparison against the C++ ledger. Actively supported and being worked on is a huge plus.

I tend to find a problem then look for the solution - of all the CSV or similar conversion programs to ledger format, the one built into hledger is the least verbose to configure.
zdw
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2/24/2012 11:58:591 year or lessOccasionallyModerate needUsing itI used ledger very briefly but found the CLI to be too difficult. The main problem was the rudimentary display. I think I found hledger on Google. I'm a Haskell enthusiast and hledger-web looked nice.Personal accounting.I like the combination of text file and HTML display, and the code seems solid.

Thanks for making it available!
I would like to be able to add commodity/security prices. I want to enter a transaction with a debit of 1 share of S&P500 and a credit of $1.1389 and one week from now be able to update the value of the share to $1.1521 when the market goes up. It's nice to see the current value of assets this way, but more importantly, it's helpful with balancing my brokerage statement, which reports this information.techtechvpi
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2/27/2012 3:24:25More than a yearOftenStrong needUsing it, Keeping an eye on IRC or mail list, perhaps a bug report now and then, QA, bug tracking, discussionAbout a couple of years ago, when I finaly moved off Palm and was looking for a replacement for Adarian MoneyTracking personal financesThat I could fix bugs/glitches myself and do it quickly :) Nice author helps a lot too.Lack of CSV exporting facilities.dastapov
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3/2/2012 8:20:33NoneNeverModerate needKeeping an eye on IRC or mail list, perhaps a bug report now and then, QA, bug tracking, discussionI learnt about it when I learnt about ledger. I dabbled in Haskell five or six years ago, so was intrigued by a Haskell implementation of ledger.

I hope to look at the code some time in the coming months as part of getting back in to Haskell.
N/AN/AN/AN/Akmrhb or kalmar on freenode
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3/3/2012 10:55:49More than a yearOftenStrong needUsing it, Keeping an eye on IRC or mail list, perhaps a bug report now and then, Donations, bounties, contract workI was searching for an accounting solution for my small one-man consulting business, and I was not very happy with the various 'normal' accounting software packages. I am a developer, and having a clean format for my transactions that is easily understood and can be version-controlled naturally appealed to me. And so far it has proven to be all I need, though I do need to create some custom reports for my monthly/yearly tax reporting.Definetly didn't, and have no intention of stopping :)Accounting for my one-man consulting business.Clean, easily understood, text-based file-format that can be checked into git. Verification that transactions balance. CLI. Very good commands with good filtering options.
I have not used the web-interface much, I generally use the cli and vim to enter my transactions.
Would have liked to have explicit support for defining a chart of accounts, however that is not a biggy. There really isn't much to dislikesmh on irc
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3/26/2012 20:12:101 year or lessOftenModerate needUsing it, Keeping an eye on IRC or mail list, perhaps a bug report now and then, Debugging, coding, architecture discussionI tried ledger and hledger, and found the "hledger add" feature very useful. Thanks to the huge documentation on both ledger and hledger, getting started was fairly easy.Personal accounting.Straightforward accounting with a simple format. That it is written in Haskell means I can realistically customise behaviour (like the interface).The interface doesn't let you undo things easily, but at least it is easy to fix mistakes in the journal file itself.Chris Mears
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