Reef Fish Amendment 47 / Vermilion Snapper
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5/11/2017 11:30:56Robert Crumrleecrum@gmail.comDeFuniak SpringsPrivate Recreational AnglerI think vermilion are being fished hard, maybe over fished .But, what else can we catch and retain now? Snapper are closed, trigger are closed (overrun with them), amberjack are closed, we have very little grouper in our area.
If the vermilion is closed or restricted, head boats will have nothing to catch in our area. (Destin)
Private boats will be impacted greatly too. Instead of looking at what else can be closed or restricted, you should be looking at what can be opened (even a little bit). Give us back our trigger fish. We are over run with them in Destin.
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5/11/2017 13:45:46Warner Fosterjwkillntime@gmail.comPanama City, Fl. 32405Private Recreational AnglerVermilion Snapper are the go to fish when Red Snapper season is closed. However, truly believe the 10 inch length in the Gulf is to short. The length in the Gulf should be a minimum of 12 inches. When a 10 inch Vermilion Snapper is cleaned the isn't enough meat to make a good sandwich. It is not uncommon to find Row in the small Vermilion snapper. The people I fish with do not keep any less than 12 inches. Also commercial and recreational fishermen should not be permitted to use 10 to 20 hook rigs. All fishermen should be limited to a maxim of five (5) hooks per line, regardless of fish species.
Thank You,
Warner
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5/19/2017 9:10:47E.M. Lores, Ph.D.skeet13@yahoo.comDear Council members,

I am a firm believer in conservation and I support the more cautious catch allowance with the use of the 30% SPR in setting catch allowance and use of more recent stock assessment for vermillion snapper.

I am pleased with the results of red snapper management--I remember the early 90s when it was very difficult to catch 2 good red snapper--now you almost can't avoid them--I understand SPR management and I know we need more of the older red snapper in the stock to consider the stock restored. I actually think the current status of more harvest in state waters and less harvest in federal waters may help achieve that goal.

Unfortunately, there are many people who do not understand that restoring the numbers of older fish in the red snapper stock is a big part of restoring that SPR--I have fished on many boats that cull smaller fish (already dead) to keep a larger fish when caught for their limit. I believe more education on the SPR and how that applies to catch limits would be helpful in getting the public to be more supportive of red snapper regulations.

Thanks,

E.M. Lores, Ph.D.
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5/24/2017 17:29:49Capt. Clifton R Cox SrSweetjodyfishing@gmail.comDestin, Florida 32540Charter/Headboat For-HireI think the current regs on vermillions are where they need to be,
both in size, bag limits, and the ACL. I have personally fished for
Vermillions as a headboat owner/operator for over 30 years. They seem to be doing quite well under the current management plan. Our anglers are getting their bag limits quite regularly on our longer trips.
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5/25/2017 9:02:31Charles weaverHweaver@sswce.comMagnolia springs, al 36555Private Recreational AnglerWhat an absolute disaster the snapper management has been
Poor regulation and absurd season length has led to the overharvest of amberjack, trigger, grouper and now beeliners???
Open your eyes regulators!!
Get in a boat and go to the elbow and west on the continental shelf
You will see many long liners vacuuming fish of the reefs and a small handful of recreational fisherman trying to find a legal fish
It must be money, and influence by commercial lobby. No scientist could be so stupid as to think it's recreational fisherman after two trips out.
Easy to see and prove
Break the shelf into alternate five mile wide strips of commercial only and recreational only fishing and come back in three years and see for yourselves
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5/25/2017 9:18:43Charles weaverHweaver@sswce.comMagnolia springs, al 36555Private Recreational AnglerCCS compiled a great report on the economics of recreational vs commercial fishing
Why won't those who set the regulations listen!?
Our local restaurants feed us imported garbage fish under the guise of " conservation minded choice" while our good gulf fish is overfished and exported by commercial fisherman
It's a tragedy
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6/1/2017 16:46:30Michael Robinsonmichaelrob01@att.netHouston, texas 77082Private Recreational AnglerPlease leave the limit alone. We need change other rules. Based on studies not touch this fish.
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6/20/2017 17:15:53James G. Stone
captainjamesgstone@gmail.com
Pensacola FL 32707
Charter/Headboat For-Hire
As a Charter operator/owner for 25 years, I've watched these limits get reduced each year. Currently, we're allowed 10 fish. 2 years ago, you rule makers reduced the limit from 20 fish, to 10. That cut the recreational harvest in half. When is enough, enough? What cuts did the commercial side experience? I see no need to further reduce the harvest of Vermillion Snapper and I would support action # 1 with no action taken.
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6/7/17Dylan Hubbarddhubbard@hubbardsmarina.comCharter/Headboat For-HireTo start, a little background on us and our company. At Hubbard’s Marina, we operate two federally permitted head boats with 50+ passengers and four charter boats all with federal permits, two of those are multi passenger USCG inspected charter vessels. Hubbard’s Marina carries around 60,000 anglers on average per year for near shore and offshore deep sea vertical line fishing. Typically fishing depths of 10-1,000 foot off the central west coast of Florida as a family owned and operated business since 1928.

The following are our recommendations to the council regarding what has been discussed this far at the meeting. (Tab B – 5a) Final action – Amendment 47
Chapter 2.1 – Action 1 – We suggest Alternative 1 no action, a proxy is not needed as this is a healthy stock that is not being overfished
Chapter 2.2 – Action 2 – We suggest again alternative 1 no action, the ACL for vermillion snapper will remain 3.42mp as we currently have a healthy fishery. If the ACL is adjusted down around the border of current catch landings and it happens to be hit once or twice we do not want to see vermillion have the over fished designation as they are again, a healthy stock
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