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We believe cataclysmic or transformative events will occur in the year 2012. Mayan archaeological, mythology, numerological, plus information from other sources all point to this date as the "shift". The planet and its inhabitants may undergo a positive physical or spiritual transformation, the beginning of a new era. Or it may mark the beginning of an apocalypse. The idea of a global event occurring in 2012 based on any interpretation of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar is rejected as pseudoscience by the scientific community, and as misrepresentative of Maya history by Mayanist scholars.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon
The end date of the Mayan Long Count calender is around 21st Dec, 2012There is some dispute about this
VISUAL: Long CountYeah it's possiblehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon
The ancient Mayans of pre-Columbia Mesoamerica (2000BC to 900AD) were excellent and accurate astronomers, cyclical notions of time, and had excellent calendars broken into astronomical cycles (the cycles of the moon, the sun and so on). Their biggest calendar was "The Long Count" lasting approximately 5125 years. The periods in the calendars of the Maya are always the same, and no extra periods are ever inserted or removed. Therefore, the calendars of the Maya cannot keep accurately in step with astronomical periods. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon
Mayan scholars agree that the starting point of the Long Count is equivalent to August 11th or 13th, 3114 BC in our Gregorian calendar, depending on the formula used
The 2012 forecast is based primarily on the end-date of the Mesoamerican "Mayan" Long Count calendar. It lasts 5,125 years and ends on December 21 or 23, 2012.
Different mayan city-states used the Long Count in different ways. Some for instance counted 20 baktuns 7886 years for example.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon
scholars agree
Michael D Coe (emmiment Harvard Mayan professor) predicted the end date Dec 24th 2011, Jan 11th 2013, Dec 23rd 2012 (1984, 3rd Edition of The Maya)Linda Schele (Professor of Mayan art, Uni of Texas) and David Freidel (Prof of Anthropology, Washington Uni)calculate that the end date of the calendar lies some 40,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years in the futurehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon
Robert J Sharer (Prof Of Anthropology, Uni Of Penslyvania) first used the date 21st Dec 2012
as do independent scholars
Independent scholars, John Major Jenkins (independent), nail the date as 21st December 2012 Carl Johan Calleman and Ian Xel Lungold- the correct end date of the Mayan calendar is October 28, 2011. This is based on the actual inscriptions at Palenque concerning the evolution of the World Tree--NOT on astronomical observations that Westerners have projected on to the calendar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon
The Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012No they didn't
The end of a calender signified the end of the previous world and the beginning of the next.the Maya "did not conceive this to be the end of creation" citing Mayan predictions of events to occur after the end of the 13th baktun. "We [the archaeological community] have no record or knowledge that the Maya would think the world would come to an end in 2012." -Susan Milbraath, curator of Latin American Art and Archaeology, Florida Museum of Natural History.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenonhttp://www.lawrence.com/news/2007/dec/10/five_years/
Michael D Coe (emmiment Harvard Mayan professor) said "that Armageddon would overtake the degenerate peoples of the world and all creation on the final day"Mayan elder Apolinario Chile Pixtun and Mexican archaeologist Guillermo Bernal both note that "apocalypse" is a Western concept that has little or nothing to do with Mayan beliefs. Bernal believes that such ideas have been foisted on the Maya by Westerners because their own myths are "exhausted".http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5geddMD9F2E4JN9acD5IJvqHtll9AD9B8P09G0
Present-day Mayan elders believe that 2012 is the day of the shiftModern day Maya don't use the Long Count calendar. It was only recently discovered by archaeologists.
The predictions for 2012 are carved onto their monumentsThe date is carved on one single monument (One Tortuguero Monument 6 (600AD)) the long count used at Tortuguero contains 20 b'ak'tuns in a cycle, so the end of the 13th b'ak'tun would not end the cycle according to Tortuguero astronomers.[17]
2012 is written across all the mayan textsRobert Sitler of Stetson University "I'm looking for a single unambiguous 2012 reference in the Classic texts, Popul Vuh, Chilam Balams, etc. and haven't found one yet," he writes. Most classic Maya inscriptions are strictly historical and do not make any prophetic declarations
But the Aztecs and the Toltecs also knew about 2012No evidence - but there is no evidence that the Toltecs or the Aztecs (the worshippers of Quetzalcoatl) had any specific knowledge of or beliefs about 2012. Hoopes - John Hoopes, an archaeologist at the University of Kansas,
Dec 21st 2012 is a significant celestial date
In the solar system, the planets and the Sun share roughly the same plane of orbit, known as the plane of the ecliptic. The southern solstice (the beginning of winter in the northern hemisphere, and of summer in the southern hemisphere) always falls around 21 December in the Gregorian calendar http://www.astro.uu.nl/~strous/AA/en/2012.html
From our perspective on Earth, the Zodiacal constellations move along or near the ecliptic, and over time, appear to recede counterclockwise by one degree every 72 years. This movement is attributed to a slight wobble in the Earth's axis as it spins. The spot where the Sun then is between the stars slowly shifts between the stars, because of the precession of the equinoxes. In about 26,000 years that spot moves once around the whole sky (compared to the stars), roughly along the ecliptic (the annual path of the Sun between the stars in the sky), so the southern solstitial point moves through the Milky Way twice each 26,000 years.
As a result, approximately every 2160 years, the constellation visible on the early morning of the spring equinox changes.
In Western astrological traditions, this signals the end of one astrological age (currently the Age of Pisces) and the beginning of another (Age of Aquarius).
Dec 21st is the completion of the precession of the equinoxes
actually procession is 25771 years (actually 21636 when anamolistic procession is taken into account)
Over the course of 26,000 years, the precession of the equinoxes makes one full circuit around the ecliptic.The equinoxes occur where the celestial equator intersects the ecliptic (red line), that is, where the Earth's axis is perpendicular to the line connecting the centers of the Sun and Earth.
Alignment with the galactic equator / plane / axis
Every year for the last 1000 years or so, on the winter solstice, the Earth, Sun and the galactic equator come into alignment, and every year, precession pushes the Sun's position a little way further through the Milky Way's band.
Just as the spring equinox in the northern hemisphere is currently in the constellation of Pisces, so the winter solstice is currently in the constellation of Sagittarius, which happens to be the constellation intersected by the galactic equator.
Once every 25,800 years, the sun lines up with the center of our Milky Way galaxy on a winter solstice, the sun's lowest point in the horizon.Aveni is critical of Jenkins’s approach and his galactic-alignment theory. “I defy anyone to look up into the sky and see the galactic equator,” he said. “You need a radio telescope for that, and they were not known anywhere in the world that I’ve heard of until the 1930s.” The real question, to him, is how an obscure, culturally circumscribed issue like the end date of one Mayan long-count cycle could manage to gain such traction in the wider world.http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/01/magazine/01world-t.html?pagewanted=5&_r=1
Jenkins suggests that the Maya based their calendar on observations of the Great Rift, a band of dark dust clouds in the Milky Way, which the Maya called the Xibalba be or "Black Road."[41] Jenkins claims that the Maya were aware of where the ecliptic intersected the Black Road and gave this position in the sky a special significance in their cosmology.[42] According to the hypothesis, the Sun precisely aligns with this intersection point at the winter solstice of 2012.[42] Jenkins claimed that the classical Mayans anticipated this conjunction and celebrated it as the harbinger of a profound spiritual transition for mankind.[43] New Age proponents of the galactic alignment hypothesis argue that, just as astrology uses the positions of stars and planets to make claims of future events, the Mayans plotted their calendars with the objective of preparing for significant world events.[44]The alignment in question is not exclusive to 2012 but takes place over a 36-year period, corresponding to the diameter of the Sun, with the most precise convergence having already occurred in 1998.
But we're going to cross the galactic planehttp://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v316/n6030/abs/316706a0.html
Hunab Ka
Hunab Ku (also the name of a post-Spanish Conquest Maya deity) that bears resemblance to both a yin and yang symbol and a spiral galaxy. However, this symbol is Aztec, not Maya, and did not depict for either culture what it symbolizes in modern New Age beliefs. No known associations betwee the Hunab Ku and the ancient Maya. Hunab Ku seems to have figured little in the life of the ancient Maya and no representations of Hunab Ku have been identified in the codices or elsewhere.
So, in summary, the "Hunab Ku" symbol was originally a rectangular symbol used by the Aztecs as a ritual cloak design, known as the Mantle of Lip Plugs (or, arguably, mantle of spider water). The symbol survives as a rug design being sold in central Mexico, but was associated with the Milky Way and the god Hunab Ku by Jose Arguelles in 1987, who changed the symbol to a circular one. This is how the symbol appeared in the 16th century Codex Magliabecchiano:http://2012.tribe.net/thread/fb0eedeb-124b-4b1a-a93b-bd167201e98e
On December 2012, the sun will be at the centre of the milky way galaxyNo. It'll be 30,000 light years away, as it always is
A global consciousness shift is comingMaybe?
Author Daniel Pinchbeck popularized New Age concepts about this date, linking it to beliefs about crop circles, alien abduction, and personal revelations based on the use of entheogens and mediumship in his 2006 book 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl.[38] Pinchbeck argues for a shift in consciousness rather than an apocalypse, suggesting that materialistic attitudes, rather than the material world, are in jeopardy.[39] Beginning in 2003, he has promoted these ideas annually in presentations at Burning Man.[40]Many New Agers believe that the ending of this cycle will correspond to a global "consciousness shift". This idea draws on many of the same sources and personalities of the 1987 Harmonic Convergence, originated by poet Tony Shearer.[citation needed] Established themes found in 2012 literature include "suspicion towards mainstream Western culture", the idea of spiritual evolution, and the possibility of leading the world into the New Age, by individual example or by a group's joined consciousness. The general intent of this literature is not to warn of impending doom but "to foster counter-cultural sympathies and eventually socio-political and 'spiritual' activism".[31]
But Daniel Pinchbeck is the reincarnation of the Mayan god, QueztacoatlHmmm. For the record "Quetzalcoatl" is the name of a deity in Nahuatl, the language of the Aztecs (who lived in the Valley of Mexico, far from Maya territory).
Terrence McKenna predicted December 2012 back in 1975, psilocybin, timewave zero
"Timewave zero" is a pseudoscientific numerological formula that purports to calculate the ebb and flow of "novelty", defined as increase in the universe's interconnectedness, or organised complexity,[53] over time. According to Terence McKenna, who conceived the idea over several years in the early-mid 1970s while using psychedelic mushrooms and DMT, the universe has a teleological attractor at the end of time that increases interconnectedness, eventually reaching a singularity of infinite complexity in 2012, at which point anything and everything imaginable will occur instantaneously.[53]In 1975, author Terence McKenna had also arrived at a New Age prediction for the year 2012.[36] This was subsequently refined to December 21, 2012 in 1983 (the more specific date appeared in the 1993 revision of The Invisible Landscape.[37]http://frequency23.net/timewave/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=115
McKenna expressed "novelty" in a computer program, which purportedly produces a waveform known as timewave zero or the timewave. Based on McKenna's interpretation of the King Wen sequence of the I Ching,[54] the graph appears to show great periods of novelty corresponding with major shifts in humanity's biological and cultural evolution. He believed the events of any given time are recursively related to the events of other times, and chose the atomic bombing of Hiroshima as the basis for calculating his end date in November 2012. When he later discovered this date's proximity to the end of the 13th baktun on the Maya calendar, he adjusted it so that the two dates matched.[55]ew Age authors including Argüelles, the McKennas, and Pinchbeck have attributed special insights into the meaning of 2012 to their use of psychedelics such as LSD, psychedelic mushrooms, DMT, and ayahuasca.
The first edition of The Invisible Landscape refers to 2012 (as the year, not a specific day) only twice. McKenna originally considered it an incidental observation that his and José Argüelles dates matched, a sign of the end date "being programmed into our unconscious". It was only in 1983, with the publication of Sharer's revised table of date correlations in the 4th edition of Morley's The Ancient Maya, that each became convinced that December 21, 2012 had significant meaning. McKenna subsequently peppered this specific date throughout the second, 1993 edition of The Invisible Landscape.[31]
"polar shift"
"The entire mantle of the earth would shift in a matter of days, perhaps hours, changing the position of the north and south poles, causing worldwide disaster," a narrator proclaims. "Earthquakes would rock every continent, massive tsunamis would inundate coastal cities. It would be the ultimate planetary catastrophe." (History Channel, Decoding The Poast: Doomsday 2012: End of DaysIf this means some sudden change in the position of the pole (that is, the rotation axis of the Earth), then that is impossible.There is no chance that this rotational pole will shift to a significant degree.http://www.csicop.org/si/show/myth_of_nibiru_and_the_end_of_the_world_in_2012/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelpaukner/4072602536/Polar Wandering has occuredhttp://www.csicop.org/si/show/myth_of_nibiru_and_the_end_of_the_world_in_2012/
More rapid pole shifts may have happened in the distance pasthttp://gsabulletin.gsapubs.org/content/118/9-10/1099
geomagentic reversal
One idea proposed in these films involves a geomagnetic reversal could be triggered by a massive solar flare, Observations show that the Earth's magnetic field is weakening,which indicates an impending reversal of the north and south magnetic poles. Scientists believe the Earth is overdue for a geomagnetic reversal, and has been for a long time, even since the time of the Mayans, because the last reversal was 780,000 years ago.[60] Critics, however, claim geomagnetic reversals take up to 5,000 years to complete, and do not start on any particular date. This magnetic reversal appears to be generated internally and not to be influenced by any outside events.
destroying the worldAmagnetic reversal would not cause any of the horrible consequences that you find associated with “pole shift” on the catastrophist Internet sites.http://www.csicop.org/si/show/myth_of_nibiru_and_the_end_of_the_world_in_2012/
solar maximum
Author Lawrence Joseph says a peak in explosive storms on the surface of the sun could knock out North America's power grid for years, triggering food shortages, water scarcity — a collapse of civilization. Solar peaks occur about every 11 years, but Joseph says there's evidence the 2012 peak could be "a lulu."Also, while NASA expects a particularly strong solar maximum sometime between 2010 and 2012, A solar maximum would be mostly notable for its effects on satellite and cellular phone communications, not power grids.http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/29may_noaaprediction.htm
Planet Nibiru (Planet X, Eris)
A rogue planet on a 3,600-year orbit is about to enter the inner solar system and visit a catastrophe upon Earth. This threatening planet was discovered by the ancient Mesopotamians, who named it Nibiru. It was known also to the Mayans, who associated it with the end—December 2012—of their “long count” calendar. Although astronomers and space scientists are tracking Nibiru or Eris, this information is being kept from the public as part of a worldwide conspiracy. This official silence cannot be maintained for much longer, however, since by 2009 Nibiru will be visible to the naked eye from the southern hemisphere, and already Earth’s axis is tilting, changing the length of the day under its influence.Eris is a dwarf planet (smaller than the Moon) with a period of 557 years, currently far beyond Neptune or Pluto at a distance of about 10 billion miles. Its orbit will never bring it into the inner solar system; the closest it will come, in about 2255, is 4 billion miles. Eris does not match the fictional object Nibiru in distance, orbit, size, or any other property, and it does not threaten Earth in any way. Nibiru is a name in Sumerian, Babylonian astrology associated with the god Marduk, generally accepted as referring to the planet Jupiter.”http://www.csicop.org/si/show/myth_of_nibiru_and_the_end_of_the_world_in_2012/
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