SSChat262012 Joe Bower - De-Grading
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brholland2/6/123:58 PM@EdTechTeacher21 @joe_bower hosting #sschat live tonight at http://t.co/vy1HYPFo #edchat #edtech
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ShawnMcCusker2/6/123:59 PM#sschat hand raising training has begun
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wmchamberlain2/6/123:59 PMRT @gregkulowiec: #sschat is about to begin here:
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classroomtools2/6/123:59 PM@becky_ellis_ @gregkulowiec It seems that Blackboard collaborate won't load on my computer even though I accepted its download. #sschat
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TeachPleau2/6/124:00 PM...degrading.... the conversation begins w/ #sschat
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ShawnMcCusker2/6/124:00 PM#sschat Joe Bower Moving away from degrading to De-Grading
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TeachPleau2/6/124:00 PMRT @Becky_Ellis_: Hey #sschat... come join us in our special illuminate session tinyurl.com/edtechteacherwebinar with @Joe_Bower on degrading
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Ron_Peck2/6/124:00 PMRT @gregkulowiec: #sschat is about to begin here: http://t.co/G91tlE6c Join us w/ guest @joe_bower #edchat
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Ron_Peck2/6/124:02 PMSeparating grades from learning. @joe_bower #sschat
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thomoedu2/6/124:02 PMRT @MsSandersTHS: Great words to get start discussion on perspective, point of view,& opinion #sschat #engchat #21stEd #edchat #WErCHANGE http://t.co/uXA4okem
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cybraryman12/6/124:02 PMRT @gregkulowiec: @joe_bower has just started his presentation for #sschat tonight here:
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gregkulowiec2/6/124:02 PM@joe_bower has just started his presentation for #sschat tonight here:
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classroomtools2/6/124:03 PM@shawnmccusker @JoeBower Unable to get Collaborate to load even though it says my system meets its requirements. Sorry to miss. #sschat
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Becky_Ellis_2/6/124:03 PMPlease join us... @Joe_Bower discussing degrading tinyurl.com/edtechteacherwebinar important conversation! #sschat
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ShawnMcCusker2/6/124:04 PM@classroomtools You may need to upgrade your java. It took me a while, but it worked eventually. #sschat
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classroomtools2/6/124:04 PM@gregkulowiec I use Chrome. Sorry to be forced to miss the chat tonight. Next time make sure non-twitter chat works for all. #sschat
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Ron_Peck2/6/124:04 PMWe need to know why students learn. @joe_bower #sschat
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classroomtools2/6/124:05 PM@shawnmccusker No, that's not it. The Collaborate support tools say that my JAVA is OK. Again, sorry to be forced to miss #sschat
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ShawnMcCusker2/6/124:05 PM@classroomtools It worked in chrome for me. Seemed slow though. #sschat
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Ron_Peck2/6/124:06 PMKids need a passion for what they do. What is there motivation? We should not be using extrinsic motivation. @joe_bower #sschat
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irishteach2/6/124:07 PMRT @Ron_Peck: We should get rid of rigor and replace it with vigor. @joe_bower #sschat
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Ron_Peck2/6/124:07 PMWe should get rid of rigor and replace it with vigor. @joe_bower #sschat
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classroomtools2/6/124:07 PM@gregkulowiec I'm afraid I don't think that it is worth the effort to do so Greg. #sschat
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Akevy6132/6/124:07 PMRT @joe_bower: Here is a 4 minute video I would like participants of my #sschat to watch. http://t.co/0jEUuA4h -Ushould watch it regardless
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Ron_Peck2/6/124:08 PMLearning should be pleasantly frustrating. @joe_bower #sschat
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techfacil2/6/124:09 PMExactly what Emily said! http://t.co/FAdIrAFZ RT @Ron_Peck Learning should be pleasantly frustrating. @joe_bower #sschat
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nesticos2/6/124:09 PMEducation should be pleasantly frustrating all the time Great point tonight by @joe_bower in #sschat room tonight
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ShawnMcCusker2/6/124:09 PMRT @irishteach: "mistakes are our friends" embrace them. learn from them. #sschat
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lamoureuxr2/6/124:09 PM@Ron_Peck @joe_bower Why kids learn is diff 4 every kid. When do we find out what motivates them.they can change their mind daily :) #sschat
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irishteach2/6/124:09 PMmistakes are our friends embrace them. learn from them. #sschat
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lamoureuxr2/6/124:11 PMAt P-T conf right now. Every parent w/ "A" kids are totally satisfied. I think..What if they are bored? What if they hate the class? #sschat
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kbkonnected2/6/124:12 PMLove this!: Students create a fake Wikipedia page about themselves. Free Template! #elemchat #edchat #spedchat #sschat http://t.co/oI59rW2I
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Becky_Ellis_2/6/124:12 PMjust give the formative comment and stay away from the grade @Joe_Bower #sschat
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tperran2/6/124:12 PMRT @irishteach: RT @Ron_Peck: We should get rid of rigor and replace it with vigor. @joe_bower #sschat
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hsytchr2/6/124:13 PM#sschat 3 consecutive weeks for me!
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Akevy6132/6/124:14 PM@Becky_Ellis_ @Joe_Bower formative assessments should never be graded #sschat
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Becky_Ellis_2/6/124:14 PM@hsytchr woot! join us in the elluminate room tinyurl.com/edtechteacherwebinar for #sschat
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classroomtools2/6/124:14 PM@gregkulowiec From now on, don't chat outside of Twitter. At least we know one or more of its clients will work for all. #sschat
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cerniglia2/6/124:16 PMgreat video for all RT@joe_bower: Here is a 4 minute video I would like participants of my #sschat to watch. http://t.co/ie8pU4Ev
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classroomtools2/6/124:17 PM@gregkulowiec Maybe you should have run a short beta test over the weekend (offered in #sschat) so probs could be identified before chat.
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classroomtools2/6/124:18 PM@teachpleau @gregkulowiec If so, I never saw it announced. #sschat
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mikekaechele2/6/124:18 PM@TheJLV So showing that clip from Hari Kondabolu on colonialism to my students http://t.co/VICgtsFJ #sschat
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Ron_Peck2/6/124:18 PMRT @lamoureuxr: Hang out with a pre-K child for a day. They love learning and discovery. #sschat
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lamoureuxr2/6/124:18 PMHang out with a pre-K child for a day. They love learning and discovery. #sschat
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classroomtools2/6/124:18 PM@gregkulowiec Better yet, maybe the entire #sschat group should have been given the chance to discuss the option.
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Akevy6132/6/124:19 PM@Ron_Peck so true I believe that is a direct result of grading very sad #sschat
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classroomtools2/6/124:19 PM@gregkulowiec Ah, that sounds like a recipe for getting burned. #sschat
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lamoureuxr2/6/124:19 PMSociety places value on grades..if you don't get these grades you don't make this college. etc. #sschat
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vr2ltch2/6/124:19 PMGreat stuff on #sschat! Assessing & measuring are not the same thing. :)
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TeachPleau2/6/124:19 PM@gregkulowiec @classroomtools I see..well, I'm in the chat, but is all of #sschat going to be here now? seems like it might shy folks away
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TeachPleau2/6/124:20 PM#sschat let's keep future Twitter chats in Twitter.... IMHO
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classroomtools2/6/124:20 PM@gregkulowiec Thanks for the apology, Greg; unfortunately it doesn't get rid of the frustration of not being able to participate in #sschat
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theMindofBob2/6/124:20 PMRT @Ron_Peck: Too many students just want to know what the minimum is for them to "pass" the class. Sad. #sschat
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classroomtools2/6/124:21 PM@gregkulowiec I mean that trying new tech at the last minute almost always results in unexpected problems. #sschat
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Ron_Peck2/6/124:21 PM@TeachPleau @classroomtools I apologize Bill. ths whole thing was my idea. I thought it wld B a nice change. Will do on another day. #sschat
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WackJacq2/6/124:21 PM#sschat Stay away from Chrome for the Blackboard collaborate. I only got in after using Firefox
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lamoureuxr2/6/124:21 PMAm not sure what the scoop is but just realized I am having a #sschat with myself. Was it thru twitter tonight or illuminate. #embarassing
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ShawnMcCusker2/6/124:22 PMRT @WackJacq: #sschat Stay away from Chrome for the Blackboard collaborate. I only got in after using Firefox
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padgets2/6/124:22 PM#engchat. #sschat. Hi everybody! My name is Sharon and I am a hs ell science teacher from Iowa lurking and a learning! :)
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jhenze442/6/124:23 PM@WackJacq You might need to update java, I got in fine.
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Ron_Peck2/6/124:23 PM@classroomtools It wasn't last minute until our source for the tech backed out and we had to find a replacement. #sschat
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robtropea2/6/124:24 PM#sschat So is there no chat in here tonight? I cant get in that illuminate thing??
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techfacil2/6/124:24 PMOuch. "ranked and sorted against their peers" via @joe_bower #sschat
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lamoureuxr2/6/124:24 PM@Becky_Ellis_ @kyteacher also, just chiming in a bit while there is a short break in conf. NOT an expert on the topic of grades...#sschat
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Ron_Peck2/6/124:25 PMSo, how do we change the system of grades? #sschat
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kyteacher2/6/124:25 PMWhile I wouldn't want to #sschat in Elluminate every week, I think I could be a nice addition to our toolbox.
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dlaufenberg2/6/124:25 PMSLA uses a three pronged approach for assessment: Traditional grades, Narrative Reports and Standards Based grades. #sschat
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lamoureuxr2/6/124:25 PM@Becky_Ellis_ see SS people can change. We don't always live in the past lol #sschat
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MaribethWestlun2/6/124:25 PM#sschat @lamoureuxr blackboard collaborate
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dlaufenberg2/6/124:25 PMI make seniors largely evaluate themselves and if they need me at the end of their HS career, I have not done my job. #sschat
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lamoureuxr2/6/124:26 PMBefore my next parent comes in I HAVE to say this before I forget..does it count that i am a teacher who got not-so-good grades? #sschat
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DataDiva2/6/124:27 PMA tension exists around what constitutes a "grade" - Any mark on a paper that's not narrative? #sschat
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TeacherCast2/6/124:27 PM**NEW** TeacherCast Podcast "@EdCampSS and #SSChat" @shawnmccusker @ron_peck #edcamp http://t.co/ioqmBvLe via @teachercast
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gregkulowiec2/6/124:27 PM#sschat is back on TWITTER!!!! @joe_bower is taking questions about the concept of grading.
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MaribethWestlun2/6/124:27 PM#sschat We are back!!
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TeachPleau2/6/124:27 PM#sschat glad the weekly Mon night convo has moved back to Twitter... #PLN
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Becky_Ellis_2/6/124:27 PMMoving to twitter to continue the discussion on #sschat with @Joe_Bower
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42ThinkDeep2/6/124:28 PMAlso, what is it like to be the teacher who "de-grades" in an environment with grades? #sschat
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WackJacq2/6/124:28 PMRT @Becky_Ellis_: @classroomtools we're back on Twitter... please come and join us #sschat
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TeachPleau2/6/124:28 PMRT @gregkulowiec: #sschat is back on TWITTER!!!! @joe_bower is taking questions about the concept of grading.
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Becky_Ellis_2/6/124:28 PM@classroomtools we're back on Twitter... please come and join us #sschat
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mbfxc2/6/124:28 PM@Ron_Peck We need 2 change the culture! Parents need 2 buy in! It is a society issue! #sschat
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kyteacher2/6/124:28 PMThanks to @joe_bower & @EdTechTeacher21 for tonight's new format. Looking forward to continuing the discussion on Twitter. #sschat
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WackJacq2/6/124:28 PMWe have to help stus embrace and celebrate authentic failures experienced in pursuit of meaningful learning. #sschat
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joe_bower2/6/124:28 PM@lamoureuxr here's how I do parent-teacher conferences http://t.co/qlGV1v4I #sschat
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johnsonmaryj2/6/124:28 PM@joe_bower, Are your hospital kids so damaged that they cannot find their passion any more or ever again? #sschat
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MrsBeck252/6/124:28 PM@Ron_Peck my question too!! love the idea but need examples on how it works #SSChat
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kyteacher2/6/124:28 PMThanks to @joebower & @EdTechTeacher21 for tonight's new format. Looking forward to continuing the discussion on Twitter. #sschat
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jhenze442/6/124:29 PMsome teachers increase grades to avoid the "talking to" from admin
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TeachPleau2/6/124:29 PM@Ron_Peck That is a K-16 convo that is NOT happening in my neck of the woods. #sschat
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nesticos2/6/124:29 PMRT @kyteacher: Thanks to @joe_bower & @EdTechTeacher21 for tonight's format. Looking forward to continuing discussion on Twitter. #sschat
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joe_bower2/6/124:29 PM@MrsBeck25 @ron_peck here are educators who have abolished grading in some way: Grading Moratorium http://t.co/KYQfwjPO #sschat
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Becky_Ellis_2/6/124:29 PM@mbfxc @Ron_Peck here is a real task to help educate parents that things really do need to be different #sschat
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cybraryman12/6/124:29 PMMy Grading page (to grade or not to grade): http://t.co/4s1lLp9r Includes Joe’s blog posts “for the love of learning” #sschat #edchat
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TeachPleau2/6/124:29 PM@mbfxc @Ron_Peck the community I work in would FLIP if we got rid of class rank.... It's scary.... #sschat
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padgets2/6/124:29 PM#sschat found you!
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vr2ltch2/6/124:29 PMI did not receive grades / report card until I attende public school. But that is also when I was 1st introduced to worksheets. #sschat
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kyteacher2/6/124:29 PMRT @WackJacq: We have to help stus embrace and celebrate authentic failures experienced in pursuit of meaningful learning. #sschat
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JudyArzt2/6/124:29 PM@lamoureuxr So what did motivate you? What pushed you on? #sschat
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