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Andre Carter IIArmySenior
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Report in Blog Format:https://camalytics.blogspot.com/2023/01/2023-nfl-draft-andre-carter-ii-army.html
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Positional Rank:Grade:Height:Weight:2022 Pass Rush Win Rate:2022 Run-Stop Rate:
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Early Third6'7"26520.80%5.10%
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Career Stats:TacklesAssisted TacklesSacksTackles for LossHurries
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202222193.5716
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202133814.51735
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202095118
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Overview:
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Strengths:Notes:
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BurstHis acceleration is impressive, but the timing on his first step is even more so. When he is locked in, Carter is one of the fastest edge prospects off the line.
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AgilityDespite playing too tall on the majority of reps, Carter has unbelievable lateral quickness. This also allows him to be effective in pass rush when going around either shoulder of the offensive tackle. This is a skill that should translate well to the NFL.
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FluidityHis hip fluidity is unmatched at his size. He just needs to learn how to play lower and be more technical in his movements.
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Weaknesses:Notes:
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StrengthCarter has some of the worst play strength for an edge prospect of his size. He has no power, weak hands, and gets deflected by running backs he should be able to run straight through. His attempts at bull rushes are lackluster, and his grip and hand placement does not help his case. Fortunately, his frame could easily hold an extra 20lbs without slowing him down.
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Technique"Technique" is such a broad weakness, but it really is true for Carter. He has issues with pad level, has no idea what to do with his hands, and has no consistent pass rush moves. He is the very definition of raw, and accrued production against lesser opponents using sheer athleticism. He has some bad habits when coming off of the line from a 2-point stance, and he may have never in his career properly learned how to even line up in a 3-point stance. Carter has substantial room to grow in nearly every aspect of his game.
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Pass Rush ArsenalHe has no pass rush moves other than be aggressive and try to get around the opponent. His hands are abysmal, and he does not know how to use strength to his advantage. Understanding how to use his length and hands effectively will lead to a better understanding of pass rush moves in general.
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Film:
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Game:Takeaways:
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Air Force (11/05/2022)Clearly poor competition at tackle. Unclean swipe, but it worked to get pressure when doubled. Getting tackles by guys who cannot block him. Taps back foot often in 2-point stance before snap. Starts in 2-point parallel stance often. Good penetration, but completely unblocked. Good agility when taking the edge. Appropriate angle after getting off block. Occasionally drops back. First off the line from the edge into double team. Good quickness inside. Very fast hands, but not seemingly as strong. Less play-strength overall than expected against lesser competition. No bend on the outside. Good first step. Completely redirected by running back. Quick hands to get by block. Good patience in case of cut back in run defense. Excellent first step. Has absolutely no power rush. Getting pushed around by the running back throughout the game. Pushed over tackle, but tackle mostly just lost balance. Almost exclusively plays too upright. Never once lined up with his hand in the dirt.
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Wake Forest (10/23/2021)Dropped into coverage. Insanely fast off the line from the edge. Held up without lateral move. Great burst overall. More aggressive this game on the inside. Pumps back leg a lot in staggered 2-point stance. Decent bend, but little power. Poor hand placement. Deflected off path around the outside. Good hand placement would make many of his rushes significantly more effective. Fluid hip flip. Actual bull rush attempt is nice to see along with better lean, but brute strength is less impressive. Nifty spin move inside would be effective without double team. Consistently impressive first step. Odd false step. Excellent lateral agility displayed on multiple plays. Jittery. Good motor. Feet always keep moving. Exceedingly poor use of hands. Better pad level overall this game.
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Wake Forest (10/08/2022) [Cut Up]Good speed through the gap, but poor tackle attempt. Does not appear to grip when tackling, similarly to how he has little grip on pass rush moves when needed. Completely held up by tackle in one-on-one. Turned to drop in coverage with great hip flip and acceleration. Kept feet moving with good motor.
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A-GapCarter will never play nose.
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B-GapHe does not line up with his hand in the dirt, nor does he have the strength to win from the inside.
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4/5-TechIf he gains better play strength and technique, along with a bit of mass to match his frame, he could be a scary defensive end. As it stands, he only plays
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EdgeEdge is where Carter currently plays, almost exclusively. His skillset is more conducive to the edge than most people his size. He is an explosive pass rusher from a two point stance, and surprisingly comfortable dropping back in coverage when need be.
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Off-BallCarter could probably be a decent off-ball linebacker with his movement skills, but he will not be playing this role in the NFL.
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Attributes (at a glance):Grade / 10:Notes:
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AttributesBend3.5There is occasionally some bend in his game, but that stems from him going shoulder first into the tackle. His effective bend from the outside is poor.
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Burst9.5His burst from the line is incredible. As long as he has no drop step or false step, both of which he has shown on occasion. he is consistently first off of the line with the acceleration to match.
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Motor8His legs never stop moving, but his effectiveness throughout plays in occasionally diminished. This is never from a lack of effort.
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SkillsetPass Rush7He was an effective pass rusher for Army. His athleticism and burst are incredible, but that is where his abilities end. He has incredible potential as a pass rusher, but must work on most aspects of his game to get there.
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Run Defense6.5While his tackling is subpar and he has a lot run-stop rate in 2022, he has potential in the run game. He is patient on outside runs, takes good angles, is quick to the backfield when need be, and can penetrate slanted blocks rather well. Despite a clear lack of strength, he is actually decent in the run game despite his poor numbers.
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Coverage7For an edge, he does surprisingly well in coverage when need be. His speed and athleticism allow him to be rather effective in the open field.
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HandsPlacement1.5Carter seemingly has no idea what he should be doing with his hands. His swipe works and he at least understands that he needs to use them, but he will need coaching on exactly how and where he should be placing them for any given move.
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Effectiveness4.5He has no grip on his pass rush. This essentially mitigates any potential bull rush, rip, and limits bend potential on the outside. He has a small swipe that works occasionally, but gets locked up if he does not find his way around the blocker.
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Quickness8His hands are very quick. He just needs to figure out what to do with them.
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Line ControlStrength2Some of the worst play strength at his size, and that was against lesser competition. He gets displaced easily, and has absolutely no power rush whatsoever.
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Balance4.5He finds himself on the ground more than he should. A lot of this is from bad offensive linemen tackling him, but the blame is on him in many situations as well.
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Pass-Rush DecisionsVersatility3.5No versatility in his pass rush moves. He is effective going inside and outside of the tackle on moves from the edge, which will be great if he can learn effective pass rush moves. For now, he uses agility and the occasional hand swipe to get by his opponents.
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Technique2The only area worse than his versatility is his technique. He pops his shoulder pads up early, has no effective lean to gain leverage, has a poor use of hands, and, despite his agility and athleticism indicating that this should be a big part of his game from the edge, absolutely no bend around the outside.
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Execution7Carter is as raw as can be, but it works for him statistically among his level of competition. His junior year stats and PFF grades are phenomenal, and his athleticism was simply far superior to his peers. His grade for execution cannot be much lower with his metrics, but his current skill level will not be conducive for success on the NFL field.
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TraitsAgility8.5Outstanding natural agility for his size. If he can work on staying low, this could easily be a 10/10. With his raw agility and athleticism, coaching will be paramount for his success. His agility could either be decent for NFL standards, as it is now, or unparalleled if he learns how to move more effectively at the line.
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Athleticism9.5Strength is limited, but a lot of that is likely due to his routine at Army. He is not as aggressive as he could be, but that has little to do with athleticism. The movement skills he flashes are among the best in the game. At 6'7" 260lbs, the sky is the limit.
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Length732.5" arms are undersized for his height, but being 6'7" makes up for his overall length.
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Final Scouting Report:
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Carter is a project. He clearly did not receive the best coaching at Army, and he could not practice against top notch competition. The 6'7" 260lbs outside linebacker never lined up with his hand in the dirt, played completely upright on the pass rush, and has some of the worst play strength for any guy at his size. Without any power to his game, notable technique, or really any particular skillset that would indicate success at the next level along with a plethora of bad tendencies, his movement skills at his size are absolutely ridiculous.

The speed he can get off of the line from a staggered 2-point stance rivals that of the best in the NFL. His lateral quickness while staying completely upright hardly makes sense, and his hip fluidity is just something that cannot be taught. His frame is large, but he is very lean as it stands. He can afford to pack on upwards of 20lbs of muscle without losing his movement skills, which is unsurprising given the day-to-day at Army. With great speed and fluid movements at his size, there is simply no way he falls out of day two.

Despite having incredible production his junior year and getting double-teamed so much of his senior year, he still did not appear to dominate against the lesser combination as much as he should. There were many instances where he got completely redirected from running backs, which again is an issue of play strength. He never tries to power his way through a block, and gains no leverage with his hand placement or lean. There is no doubt that his potential is limitless if molded properly by his upcoming coaches and trainers, but it is unlikely that he becomes any sort of impact player until the back end of his rookie contract.
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Projections:
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LikelyCarter will probably go in round two. If he starts immediately, he will continue to ingrain his bad habits. He will probably not be thrust into a starting role immediately, but if he is, it is likely that he will be considered a bust early on.
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OptimalCarter gets drafted to a good team where he can be a rotational player for a couple of years while learning from coaches and technical edge defenders playing ahead of him. This would allow for some much needed development before getting cast into a starting role.
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Pro ComparisonDanielle Hunter. Hunter has length and strength on Carter, but Carter is quicker off of the line with more college production. Hunter also lined up as an end, while Carter played from the edge. Both prospects are coveted for their athleticism, and are similarly tiered coming out of college with Carter having the slight advantage. This is not the best comparison, but Carter is a fairly unique prospect.
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