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2020-10-28 14:07:43.4 PDT
David JohnsonHello.
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2020-10-28 14:07:45.0 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarWhy did?
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2020-10-28 14:07:47.0 PDT
David JohnsonHi, sorry, just dealing with a slight emergency. Yes, I can hear you. Can you hear me?
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2020-10-28 14:07:49.8 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarNearby. Okay.
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2020-10-28 14:07:54.0 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarOkay, yeah. You'll solved do though Bourbon.
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2020-10-28 14:07:57.8 PDT
David JohnsonOh, hold the phone sir.
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2020-10-28 14:08:01.8 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarOkay, thank you. How are you doing?
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2020-10-28 14:08:06.2 PDT
David JohnsonA little bit. Busy.
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2020-10-28 14:08:09.0 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarHuh, yeah, appreciate you're dropping in yesterday like you had multiple meetings going on.
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2020-10-28 14:08:15.8 PDT
David JohnsonYes. Well I, the leads I mentioned the release is at work and the release that was supposed to go out last week, went out this week. And the one that's supposed to go out this week gives being delayed right now and they want an extra released tomorrow Jessica.
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2020-10-28 14:08:30.6 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarOh.
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2020-10-28 14:08:33.2 PDT
David JohnsonSo I'm like free releases in one week and I'm just like, oh, that's gonna average like two and a half postmortems.
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2020-10-28 14:08:39.6 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarHey, can we not yours? Uh-huh.
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2020-10-28 14:08:41.4 PDT
Ernest Prabhakarquestion
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2020-10-28 14:08:44.0 PDT
David JohnsonOh, I'm in, I'm in the release so it is my post more, them but I don't think there'll be the cause of any of the problems.
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2020-10-28 14:08:49.8 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarBecause that's where we show you what I was saying.
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2020-10-28 14:08:53.6 PDT
David JohnsonOh, no, no. I've lost much more money for a company before then, this.
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2020-10-28 14:08:55.8 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarOkay.
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2020-10-28 14:09:01.2 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarIt's good to have a a higher watermark to that.
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2020-10-28 14:09:06.2 PDT
David JohnsonI used to work for Google. I used to work for Google. There were, there were $1 million of people that I caused outage before. This is nothing.
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2020-10-28 14:09:09.4 PDT
David Johnsoncurrency
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2020-10-28 14:09:15.0 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarYes, only from my favorite thing. So, he did it for long time and talk about the worst mistakes they've made because the digital while was possibly really badly and not be the end of your career.
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2020-10-28 14:09:35.6 PDT
David JohnsonYes, I especially enjoyed the there was a guy who was it like years ago who took down all of Google for like half an hour and he did a prison for the entire company about it. And it will ask me got like three peer bonuses for it.
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2020-10-28 14:09:35.6 PDT
David Johnsonpositive_sentiment
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2020-10-28 14:09:54.0 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarWow.
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2020-10-28 14:09:56.6 PDT
David JohnsonBecause the problem was that he took it down to the thing was he brought it back up immediately without understanding why it was down and that's why he got all those.
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2020-10-28 14:10:07.2 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarGood or bad that he brought a backup.
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2020-10-28 14:10:09.8 PDT
David JohnsonIt was very good. It was only down for like half an hour. Hello. Reason I took that, it took like a forever for the system to propagate the change through because this was all the Google everywhere.
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2020-10-28 14:10:12.0 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarOkay. Uh-huh, okay.
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2020-10-28 14:10:21.6 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarWow, what was that?
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2020-10-28 14:10:24.2 PDT
David JohnsonOh, well it would have been more than five years ago. So maybe so two thousand 1514. I think we'll need it. It may news seven.
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2020-10-28 14:10:28.2 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarOkay.
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2020-10-28 14:10:33.0 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarRight.
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2020-10-28 14:10:37.2 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarYeah, so it's actually just put a segue any cause one of the things that I love about which is you get to see the most famous then importantly respected a man of god doing credibly um, evil don't headed status.
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2020-10-28 14:10:54.0 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarAnd talk about it. Which is hoping that personally finding more mostly encouraging comforting and yet, I rarely far outside the pages of scripture.
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2020-10-28 14:11:14.4 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarSo there.
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2020-10-28 14:11:15.2 PDT
David JohnsonYes, I'm here.
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2020-10-28 14:11:17.4 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarOkay.
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2020-10-28 14:11:19.4 PDT
David JohnsonSo this is this a segue into something.
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2020-10-28 14:11:25.8 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarThis is a segue yes, into but we can start of the different solution. If you like I don't have any burning questions about last week or if I can launch into a new dimensioned have explanations.
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2020-10-28 14:11:43.4 PDT
David JohnsonWell, I'm wondering how you feel about the meeting every week the last couple of weeks.
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2020-10-28 14:11:46.8 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarOh I'm actually during courage precisely because I feel like are making better and more you told think.
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2020-10-28 14:11:59.6 PDT
David JohnsonAre we?
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2020-10-28 14:12:01.8 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarOh, I am and so.
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2020-10-28 14:12:07.8 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarThe, so I get, I don't know if I can explain how I feel like it's more shared context.
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2020-10-28 14:12:17.4 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarCleaner last week to discuss, the goal is to create a couple, like a new religious. The thing that I'm trying to do.
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2020-10-28 14:12:24.2 PDT
David JohnsonYeah. Well, I, yeah, I don't really see that in the meetings during the week.
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2020-10-28 14:12:30.6 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarI know. You don't see it.
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2020-10-28 14:12:33.8 PDT
David JohnsonDid you see it?
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2020-10-28 14:12:34.2 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarSo.
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2020-10-28 14:12:36.6 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarSo I have the picture in my head, this thing I'm trying to do.
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2020-10-28 14:12:41.4 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarAnd therefore that gives me a sense of which things are contributing to the half and which things well everything I see is trying to. So let's, let's see it's over the punch line. The phrase I've been using can travel, we're doing for the last few session is vulnerable encountering Jesus bio banks will try to get it.
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2020-10-28 14:13:08.4 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarI think I've been tweaking it a bit. So I just don't think I've learned is I need to be more precise about that. So what it is I do a bunch of thing, observe the results, I compare this against this half the member dream. I have what I'm trying to, three and that helps me both recreate the dry more precisely, and then try different things to see if I can make the allergy match that three.
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2020-10-28 14:13:44.0 PDT
David JohnsonOkay. I still under, I mean, that's just generally, that's generally true, that's generally how you do that but I mean, like specifically I don't understand how anything that happens on Tuesday is, is contributing to this goal of yours?
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2020-10-28 14:13:47.4 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarWell, yeah I'm not sure, sorry.
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2020-10-28 14:14:01.2 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarOkay, so, oh let me try a different line of argument. I think one thing but when I was reviewing our conversation last week, I think when we were talking about concrete pushing looks Perion says we tend to make progress and we tried to go into generalities are intended to get confusing, so.
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2020-10-28 14:14:24.8 PDT
David JohnsonOkay. Okay. Okay, so I'm still trying to talk about Tuesday.
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2020-10-28 14:14:29.4 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarValerie, which made you realize that?
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2020-10-28 14:14:32.6 PDT
David JohnsonI, you were talking about, I wanna think about Tuesday and you're just sort of jumping back to our last conversation.
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2020-10-28 14:14:37.2 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarSo, it's okay. I didn't know how to talk about Tuesday, we're gonna make any.
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2020-10-28 14:14:42.8 PDT
David JohnsonOkay, well I mean alright let me, let me throw some things out there okay I tend to was low on Tuesday.
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2020-10-28 14:14:47.4 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarOkay sure.
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2020-10-28 14:14:51.6 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarIt was low.
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2020-10-28 14:14:53.6 PDT
David JohnsonAlright. This is, this is part of a a trend that I expressed concern about a couple of weeks ago.
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2020-10-28 14:15:00.8 PDT
David JohnsonBefore it started happening. So I said this is likely to happen and this is what it's going to look like and two weeks later it's happening to.
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2020-10-28 14:15:01.8 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarThird of.
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2020-10-28 14:15:12.2 PDT
David JohnsonAre you concerned?
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2020-10-28 14:15:12.2 PDT
David Johnsonquestion
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2020-10-28 14:15:18.6 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarHey, man it's late task much what it up and down quite a bit and see who's one of the most concerned about as the said hey, I appreciate what you guys are doing. I just can't make it this week but he's not just in gauge.
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2020-10-28 14:15:31.4 PDT
David JohnsonBeen but that's two weeks in a row.
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2020-10-28 14:15:35.4 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarHe has a real time. I'm glad for him when a freelancer and work has a very precious thing so I'm less concerned about attendance on Tuesday then overall engagement to in the relationships in the project. There was not there on Tuesday. I should definitely touch base with him. Oh, that is something that is more doing.
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2020-10-28 14:16:00.0 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarBut in some ways fact that shows up all always kind of a, a pleasant surprise to me. And I'm always trying to figure out what are the things like you know we had one new person show up which is not a bad thing. And so hi, I'm more concerned about, hey, are you have good relationships to be. I'm trying to understand the thing I'm doing better so, that I can make it more engaging more washable you.
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2020-10-28 14:16:40.8 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarSo it's funny you mentioned that actually because that was one of the things I was gonna talk about which is the traditional is measures of spirituality your measures of success.
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2020-10-28 14:16:51.0 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarAnd one of the reasons why I'm trying to create this new thing is the fastest way because the measures of success but I do up with the traditions and communities. I was a part of a have their utilities but other number a painful downside and one of them for example is the churches to measure that most churches obsess, over are a number of our basically button seats.
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2020-10-28 14:17:28.4 PDT
David JohnsonYes, what's in seats?
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2020-10-28 14:17:29.4 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarThat'd be people who still and so the, so if our if I bought the seat, the police for factor miss that understanding and living out our mission increase that is considered a success and that overtime or people who came to the right reasons would come back.
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2020-10-28 14:17:57.8 PDT
David JohnsonYou could actually just for the mentally different, use the same problem I have with previous churches related to button seats and you just took, you took off as you talked to the opposite angel from the UFC read it so I'm kinda surprised.
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2020-10-28 14:18:13.2 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarYeah. Sorry, I lost what did you think I did?
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2020-10-28 14:18:15.5 PDT
Ernest Prabhakarquestion
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2020-10-28 14:18:18.2 PDT
David JohnsonSo.
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2020-10-28 14:18:20.9 PDT
David JohnsonI understand you see there's a bad metric and, and churches value with too much and we shouldn't do that. And you know what, I agree.
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2020-10-28 14:18:30.0 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarRight.
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2020-10-28 14:18:32.4 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarHey, just wanted to me about it then I don't want to worry about it. But I was working for.
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2020-10-28 14:18:39.2 PDT
David JohnsonYes, can. I am concerned, I'm very concerned you see the problem, the problem I haven't see is that it and treats people like objects instead of like people. No, I don't, I don't mind, I don't mind the burning up and I do mind the attitude though. I mean you can call whatever you want. I'll call it, I'll call that.
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2020-10-28 14:18:39.2 PDT
David Johnsonnegative_sentiment
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2020-10-28 14:18:42.6 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarThere you concern. Okay.
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2020-10-28 14:18:51.0 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarMm-hmm.
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2020-10-28 14:18:55.8 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarYeah, correct.
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2020-10-28 14:19:01.4 PDT
David JohnsonBill in Steven are, are in there and I've been like engagement has gone down with those who do see. Oh, let me, let me, let me.
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2020-10-28 14:19:09.6 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarSo, this is the first of all so I think there's just finished finish report.
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2020-10-28 14:19:16.4 PDT
David JohnsonAlright, this is really important to me because this is something that really, really bothered and I feel like you did the same, I think you really okay the problem I have a bunch of church leaders is that I'll go to them and then say, so when so isn't coming anymore, so when so dropped off the radar and I think these are the reasons why and they'll go, oh, well, or they'll look at overall our metrics are fine, no, you have just done and said I don't care about that metric and I'm like, I don't care about that metric either I care about selling so.
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2020-10-28 14:19:19.2 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarOkay okay.
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2020-10-28 14:19:25.2 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarOkay.
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2020-10-28 14:19:35.4 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarMm-hmm.
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2020-10-28 14:19:51.6 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarOkay, so, okay, so, let's say for size, okay? Let's talk individually going to have to scrap this, so videos audio because it's too personal or sensitive whatever but from our perspective I have to workout we're making progress on the United States some text that says some documents, yeah.
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2020-10-28 14:20:09.8 PDT
David JohnsonAre you?
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2020-10-28 14:20:12.8 PDT
David JohnsonOkay.
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2020-10-28 14:20:13.8 PDT
Ernest PrabhakarSo Steve is not on the chat looking at the type of ship which you finished and he said to be for comment what are some of the comments and we've had submitted discussion about the comments. And he has said publicly on board he's really busy with work but I believe that so what so you can choose not to believe it or not but I believe him, I'm sure.
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2020-10-28 14:20:29.6 PDT
David JohnsonI don't believe it, I don't believe I told you that I told you before. I told you before he said that he was going to say.