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3/1/12(Read from bottom up) "Are there topics within the traditional PK - 12 school curriculum that could or should be eliminated ?"
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MyTakeOnIt2012-03-01T22:05:37-05:00As always, thanks for a great #ISEDchat, Lorri! Can't wait to look at the archives to see what I missed. A LOT!
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lcarroll942012-03-01T22:02:15-05:00Always looking for new topics for #isedchat. Add them to the Gdoc: http://t.co/TPdUQYgA #naisac12
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theASIDEblog2012-03-01T22:01:12-05:00Thanks for a great discussion. #isedchat
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theASIDEblog2012-03-01T22:00:42-05:00Media literacy, social networking, & entrepreneurship should be woven into 21c curricula. It's not just facts, it's connections. #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:59:23-05:00I will post archives soon! #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:58:24-05:00RT @lcarroll94: it's 10pm! Thanks so much to all of you for sharing tonight! GREAT discussion! #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:56:19-05:00@theASIDEblog YES, but it takes time to revise curriculum for interdisciplinary approach. Do schools provide teachers enough time? #isedchat
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theASIDEblog2012-03-01T21:56:01-05:00Taking curricula to another level means giving up some traditional approaches. We need to be risk takers. Learning has changed. #isedchat
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reth1nk2012-03-01T21:55:49-05:00RT @Technoliteracy: RT @ClifWithOneF Graphic Organizer of Bill Gates Keynote at #NAISAC12 http://t.co/JIqnNQC2 #gtchat #isedchat #edchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:55:04-05:00@8rinaldi yes... and so much focus on that part of the world. #isedchat
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theASIDEblog2012-03-01T21:55:01-05:00We should continue to revise curricula to include PBL and strong interdisciplinary connections from the arts to science. #isedchat
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8rinaldi2012-03-01T21:54:26-05:00@lcarroll94 I remember 1066 Battle of Hastings - not much more Too many Brit hist dates #isedchat.
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mrsdurkinmuses2012-03-01T21:54:14-05:00“@lcarroll94: @mrsdurkinmuses nice. How often does it meet? Is there 2 teachers in the room? #isedchat” once every six days.
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:53:33-05:00RT @theASIDEblog: Writing about history helps kids get it. Comparing to today is priceless. #isedchat
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theASIDEblog2012-03-01T21:53:25-05:00Writing about history helps kids get it. Comparing to today is priceless. #isedchat
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mrsdurkinmuses2012-03-01T21:53:11-05:00We use primary sources, @washingtonpost @nytimes @WSJ, guests, trips. #isedchat
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8rinaldi2012-03-01T21:52:36-05:00@georgelewis @lcarroll94 Absolutely in writing, present, sharing, ss have to prove understanding and analytic skills. #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:52:14-05:00@mrsdurkinmuses nice. How often does it meet? Is there 2 teachers in the room? #isedchat
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2footgiraffe2012-03-01T21:51:32-05:00@ckoos1 summer reading suggestion. Edchat archives. http://t.co/SUZO7668 #edchat #isedchat #cpchat
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mrsdurkinmuses2012-03-01T21:51-05:00“@lcarroll94: @mrsdurkinmuses Is it a history class? #isedchat” humanities, current events team w/ English, history
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:50:58-05:00How many memorized "facts" do you actually remember from Middle/ HIgh School? Not many for me... #isedchat
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theASIDEblog2012-03-01T21:50:57-05:00@8rinaldi @georgelewis @lcarroll94 It's understanding that is impt not memorizing. It's connections, influence, & how to use them. #isedchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:50:35-05:00@mrsdurkinmuses @lcarroll94 What do you read/use? #isedchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:49:48-05:00@lcarroll94 @8rinaldi I hate history tests. Writing is the way to go! #isedchat
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ckoos12012-03-01T21:49:41-05:00Ideas for faculty summer book study? Would love for it to support our goal of integrating more tech. #edchat #isedchat #cpchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:49:34-05:00@mrsdurkinmuses Is it a history class? #isedchat
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mrsdurkinmuses2012-03-01T21:48:45-05:00@lcarroll94 @georgelewis major objective of my seminar for grade 8, discern fact from opinion. #isedchat
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MatthewFrattali2012-03-01T21:48:35-05:00Has anyone ever given a standardized test to a room full of successful adults? http://t.co/SzXrjtJf Just wondering #edchat #edtech #isedchat
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theASIDEblog2012-03-01T21:48:32-05:00Pencils are an important tool, but so are Apps. We need a balance and not fear using tech with students in early grades. #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:48:32-05:00RT @8rinaldi: @georgelewis Diff between understing hist facts and memorizing them for a test #isedchat I agree completely.
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8rinaldi2012-03-01T21:47:54-05:00@georgelewis @lcarroll94 Diff between understing hist facts and memorizing them for a test #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:47:17-05:00@georgelewis Same for a population that believes everything they hear. Need to teach analysis of data and fact checking. #isedchat
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theASIDEblog2012-03-01T21:45:48-05:00Farming is the most impt invention. W/out it no division of labor. Connect w/ history, integrate globally & inspire learning. #isedchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:45:41-05:00@8rinaldi @lcarroll94 Yet, a population that doesn't kno hist facts, can be misled easily. #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:44:04-05:00RT @georgelewis: @VineyardFCDS @lcarroll94 Who determines the baseline? #isedchat Great question! who determines curriculum now?
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:43:17-05:00@VineyardFCDS @lcarroll94 Who determines the baseline? #isedchat
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8rinaldi2012-03-01T21:43:05-05:00@georgelewis @lcarroll94 Don't agree. Ment math is needed immed to solve prob. Hist facts can be found quickly online for projects #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:42:55-05:00@georgelewis ha! #isedchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:42:31-05:00@lcarroll94 44! Duh. See, I manage. #isedchat Sorry, couldn't resist, :)
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MyTakeOnIt2012-03-01T21:42:15-05:00I'm loving the concurrent discussion of backchannling in education on #BYOTchat and #ISEDchat!!
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VineyardFCDS2012-03-01T21:42:12-05:00@lcarroll94 strongly agree. Need a baseline of knowledge. #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:42:10-05:00RT @kemcneiece: #isedchat Times tables are very important! Some things must be learned. It will make math easier in the upper grades. YES!
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MarcieLew2012-03-01T21:42:05-05:00@lcarroll94 also you know so many other things by relation 6x7 ... 60 x 7 ... 600 x 700 etc. #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:41:51-05:00How does a curriculum move from breath to depth! ? #isedchat
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MyTakeOnIt2012-03-01T21:41:39-05:00I just noticed a tweet from @MarcieLew on #ISEDchat that suggests wiki/Wikipedia discussion/backchannel! Applies to #BYOTchat, too!
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kemcneiece2012-03-01T21:41:24-05:00#isedchat Times tables are very important! Some things must be learned. It will make math easier in the upper grades.
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:41:07-05:00@georgelewis but if you don't know 7 x 6, you are pretty paralyzed at times. #isedchat
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theASIDEblog2012-03-01T21:41:05-05:00Revise curriculum to engage students who have info at their fingertips. Use it & make them figure out the "so what." #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:40:37-05:00@MarcieLew ABSOLUTELY! #isedchat
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MarcieLew2012-03-01T21:39:43-05:00@lcarroll94 teach Gr 4 ... I think they need to have the conceptual understanding and then memorize! Need to know cold! #isedchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:39:40-05:00@lcarroll94 Mental math is kind of like history facts, in a way. #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:38:54-05:00As a math teacher, i've seen the debate about times tables. I still believe this is a necessary skill. Any opinion on this? #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:38:19-05:00RT @MarcieLew: @georgelewis the backchannel/discussion on wikipedia can be great for some topics #isedchat GREAT!
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:37:59-05:00@capohanka It does need to be updated or it's useless! #isedchat
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MarcieLew2012-03-01T21:37:37-05:00@georgelewis Oh I know! I have a stack of print books to look at! #isedchat
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VineyardFCDS2012-03-01T21:37:23-05:00“@MarcieLew: @georgelewis the backchannel/discussion on wikipedia can be great for some topics #isedchat” Smart strategy!
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theASIDEblog2012-03-01T21:37:12-05:00@MarcieLew @georgelewis Unfortunately, many adults don't know how to search. It's a skill for life along with evaluation. #isedchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:36:30-05:00@MarcieLew Agree about backchannel discussions. for me, time is a factor: How do I read it all!!!!!!!!!! #isedchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:35:24-05:00@MarcieLew I call that the "Hierarchy of Reliability" #isedchat
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MarcieLew2012-03-01T21:35:15-05:00@georgelewis the backchannel/discussion on wikipedia can be great for some topics #isedchat
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MarcieLew2012-03-01T21:34:55-05:00@georgelewis Also having the kids know .gov .edu etc. to look for reliable resources #isedchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:34:46-05:00@MarcieLew Trouble is, Wikipedia is often at the top, & I thnk Wikipedia is a great source! Then I seek verification from another #isedchat
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theASIDEblog2012-03-01T21:34:43-05:00@VineyardFCDS Was talking about the traditional spelling test. Using words in context w/ correct spelling builds stronger skills. #isedchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:33:55-05:00@MarcieLew In class, i try 2 always ask 1st: What's your source? Sometimes I send 'em back to find a better one #isedchat
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MarcieLew2012-03-01T21:33:23-05:00@georgelewis I am guity of needed to learn as well! #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:33:17-05:00@capohanka we map using Atlas. I think it's necessary but I find it really boring to do. I'd rather blog about my curriculum. #isedchat
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MarcieLew2012-03-01T21:32:48-05:00@georgelewis most kids just look at the top hits and don't really consider where the info is coming from or who the author is #isedchat
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theASIDEblog2012-03-01T21:32:16-05:00@georgelewis Absolutely, info evaluation, data sourcing and digital curating are key skills for born digitals , and teachers, too. #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:31:47-05:00@theASIDEblog Agreed... using the words is SO much more useful! #isedchat
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VineyardFCDS2012-03-01T21:31:45-05:00@theASIDEblog idk about this. As span teacher, my kids need to memorize vocab. Can't learn a Lang without #isedchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:31:42-05:00@MarcieLew Not sure I am always great at it myself. Do we need to teach Boolean searches? If so, I better brush up/learn! #isedchat
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gkosater2012-03-01T21:31:18-05:00“@theASIDEblog: Get rid of spelling tests that make ss memorize lists of words. Be better served by writing stories using words. #isedchat”
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MarcieLew2012-03-01T21:30:46-05:00@georgelewis teaching how to optimize searches is an important skill i don't think we use often enough #isedchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:30:30-05:00@theASIDEblog Amen! #isedchat
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3SweetTeasAndMe2012-03-01T21:30:15-05:00RT @drmcgettigan: Big question: what computer skills should be taught in schools? http://t.co/LvT5vOEx #isedchat #edtech #cpchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:29:49-05:00@lcarroll94 Modeling. I often try to search for info out loud or using my projector. Sometimes I ask kids for search terms. #isedchat
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theASIDEblog2012-03-01T21:29:34-05:00Get rid of spelling tests that make kids memorize lists of words. They'd be better serviced by writing stories using those words. #isedchat
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MarcieLew2012-03-01T21:29:02-05:00@georgelewis I heard it described as trying to fill a bath tub with the Niagara Falls the other day ... great metaphor #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:28:43-05:00@georgelewis YES... how do you teach that skill? #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:28:19-05:00@MarcieLew yes! Thank goodness for sharing and connecting with other educators. #isedchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:27:57-05:00@theASIDEblog Here's a necessary skill: filtering info...and data! #isedchat
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3SweetTeasAndMe2012-03-01T21:27:30-05:00RT @drmcgettigan: If we were REALLY serious about education technology (Dr. Scott McLeod) http://t.co/sydEcBWT A good list! #isedchat #cpchat
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MarcieLew2012-03-01T21:27:27-05:00@lcarroll94 I think we are getting better at this .... becoming more aware of what is happenig in other classrooms #isedchat
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theASIDEblog2012-03-01T21:27:16-05:00We should continually look at what do we keep, we do we get rid of, and what do we create to enhance learning. #isedchat
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Sewickley2012-03-01T21:27:11-05:00A Teacher’s Interest in Pinterest http://t.co/BXeQTTNF #isedchat
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8rinaldi2012-03-01T21:26:48-05:00@georgelewis @theASIDEblog @lcarroll94 We make room for creative thinking, own ideas/opinions, reasons for history, prob solving #isedchat
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theASIDEblog2012-03-01T21:26:15-05:00@georgelewis In a world with data at our finger tips, why waste time on it. Give it to them, the why is more important. #isedchat
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VineyardFCDS2012-03-01T21:26:11-05:00@georgelewis skills! Like foreign languages! Programming, etc.. #isedchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:26:07-05:00@MarcieLew @lcarroll94 What's paper? #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:26:01-05:00Do you map your curriculum? #isedchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:25:10-05:00@lcarroll94 @MarcieLew Engage in conversations--informal, formal, discussion forums, learning opportunities #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:24:52-05:00@georgelewis big picture connections, creative stuff... the application of the facts. #isedchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:23:35-05:00@theASIDEblog @lcarroll94 If we outsource knowledge of dates/facts, what r we making room 4 in our brains? #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:23:32-05:00@georgelewis it's very helpful in Jeopardy too! #isedchat
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lcarroll942012-03-01T21:23:19-05:00@georgelewis Love the pushback! thanks for it! I think there is... to some extent. We do need a baseline of knowledge . #isedchat
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georgelewis2012-03-01T21:22:29-05:00@theASIDEblog @lcarroll94 More pushback: Is there something to be said 4 "just knowing that stuff"? #isedchat
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