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TimestampFirst NameLast NameI have students currently attending the following schoolsIn the following grades:Please list your comments, concerns, and suggestions in the space below.

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4/23/2012 9:48:05SarahSharplesPrune Hill Elementary2I too like many others parents bought a house specifically in the Prune Hill district so my child could attent that school. My child has been attenting Prune Hill since 3rd grade. I do understand that the community is growing and a need to accomodate more children. I believe instead of disrupting the childrens education at their current school a good solution might be to ALLOW THE FAMILIES THAT WERE IN THE DISTRICT WHEN THEY ENROLLED AT PRUNE HILL TO FINISH THEIR EDUCATION THERE if they choose to stay. New families enrolling would then follow the newly adopted boundaries in 2013. It would "grandfather" the children in who are currently attending and cause less disruption. Parents could have the option of switching to the new boundaries if they wanted and would need to provide their own transporation for their children if they decided to stay in the current boundaries that were in place when they enrolled in the district. Thank you sarah1dds@aol.com

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4/23/2012 11:22:59Kacey Souki Helen Baller Elementary4/5/2012If I have read the boundary revisions for NW Elm St and 10th will be moving to Prune Hill? If this is correct I ask that you please consider keeping the current and continue to go to Helen Baller. We had to move our kids when Grass Valley was built and this would be our second boundary move. My oldest which will currently be going to middle school this coming year, this would be very devastating to him. He has a hard time adjusting and going into a new middle school would be very hard for him.

Thank you for your time.

Kacey Souki
kcsouki@yahoo.com
360-834-6022

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4/23/2012 12:49:04KimberlyGrahamGrass Valley Elementary1Thanks to the committee for all the effort. This was a huge undertaking, I'm sure. I am currently in the middle of a home purchase, and while the revisions do not appear they will effect my child, it occurred to me that I have seen no information released regarding options to families who's childeren are effected. Options, boundary exceptions, or simply clarity that transfers MUST take place would be appreciated. Thanks!

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4/23/2012 13:48:11Lisa AlgstamDorothy Fox Elementary, Skyridge Middle School3/6/2012Please, the new boundaries have my kids going to a school that is NOT a neighborhood school. We completely believe in the concept of going to schools that are in the neighborhood. We are in the walk zone of both grass valley and d. fox and skyridge and would be shipped over to liberty. This makes NO sense to the people in our neighborhood. First you split our neighborhood in two a couple of years ago seperating lower and upper holly hills. Instead of remedying this you have now sent us over the hill for middle school. We are FAR closer to Skyridge than Libery and closer than 90% of the population that you are doing to bus in under this new plan. It just doesn't make any sense. My kids can walk to and from school right now. Putting them at Liberty adds an extra stress. It just doesn't make sense to be able to see two school and be bussed to two others.
Please don't do this. I never understood why the school district was bussing kids from Sunningdale over to Helen Baller when they had a neighborhood school. Your objectives of keeping neighborhoods together and in neighborhood schools has been thoroughly missed. I strongly oppose this and would move that at the very least the upper Holly Hills Area be moved over to Grass if you intend on keeping Fox at Liberty.
Please reconsider,
Lisa

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4/23/2012 13:52:23StevenNunezNone3My son presently goes to private school but we have been considering entering him into the Camas school district, and have chosen to live in the neighborhood we do based off the school choices available to us. We live in one of the older subdivisions on Prune Hill, which most likely prompted the building of Prune Hill Elementary school in the first place. Now, we are informed the schools we originally planned for have been removed from our boundary, and we would be forced to go to a school farther away, affecting childcare possibilities as well as longer commute impacts.

It seems a more logical choice that new boundaries would be established based on a longevity of tax endowment; one where the neighborhood's which have historically been a part of a school would remain so, and the newer subdivisions, where new tax rolls have been established would carry the brunt of the changes. There is less impact felt by these families as they have never been tied so closely to particular schools, friends and families or at least, have not been so for long. Not only that, but because these newer subdivisions haven't had taxes contribute to the latest bond measure's responsible for the newly built schools and several additions, why would they be able to reap certain benefits the older, and longstanding contributors cannot?

I understand this process is bound to make many people unhappy, and that it is a thankless job working on such a task, however, it seems fair that those households who have had the largest impact via taxes and levies which have heavily contributed to the well being of the district would be afforded certain grandfathered rights to the schools closest to them.


Thank you for your consideration.

S. Nunez


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4/23/2012 13:52:59JillBertalotLiberty Middle School6/8/2012My concern is for my current 6th grader who is at Liberty Middle School.
Will she be "grandfathered" in to remain at Liberty for her 8th grade year?
I do not wish for her to go to SkyRidge for her last year of middle school. That would be ludicrous. We live up on Livingston Mountain, if she is able to remain at Liberty, would she have a bus available to her? Or would we have to provide our own transportation?

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4/23/2012 15:57:29MelindaStricklandLacamas Height Elementary5My daughter will be attending sixth grade next year. According to the current boundaries, she will attend Liberty Middle School. If the new boundaries are passed she would then be transferred to Skyridge Middle School. If the boundaries are passed this year, I think it is in the best interest of the incoming sixth graders to begin their middle school years at the school they will attend after the boundary change and new elementary school is opened. Middle School is a difficult enough transition without having to transfer schools again mid way through the middle school experience. It distracts from learning. My husband and I both work full-time and it would be very difficult to impossible for us to apply for a boundary exception and then have to pick up and drop off every day from a middle school several miles from our home. I think its great we are building another elementary school, however, I think consideration should be given to the fifth grade class (soon to be middle school students) and they should be allowed to attend and be provided transportation to the same middle school for all three years in an effort to make sure those critical years before transitioning into the highschool curriculum are not made even more difficult. Thank you, M. Strickland

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4/23/2012 18:24:14TammyLochnerDorothy Fox Elementary, Skyridge Middle School5/6/2012Please re-take under consideration the large number of families that moved to the Dorothy Fox school district, planning our children's futures based on the schools they will attend. Families have moved to this hill for schools alone. We wanted our children to grow up with their neighborhood/ neighbors, friends etc. and all attend school together within our neighborhood. This was a huge selling point when buying our homes. We have spent umpteen hours volunteering at our children's elementary school in order to build a sense of community for our children. We voted for a bond measure to update our schools. Of course FOX was the last to be done. Now Fox will be moved to another older school all the way down the hill. Completely out of the way of parents leaving for work etc. Imagine the traffic speeding through the areas by Liberty,Crown Park. What a disruption to the local community. There doesn't need to be any more traffic through that dangerous area. What about snow/late starts? Does it make sense to send all the children from Fox down to Liberty? Why not combine all the snow route areas to go to the same school? The CAC has recommended that we bus our children to a school in another side of our small city in order for the schools to feel an economic/social balance? Seems the priorities are backwards. Children need consistency, sense of safety, connection to their community. Regarding the timeline to move the children currently at Skyridge to different middle schools: Middle school years are hard enough, combine that fact with a disruption mid way for preteens? Forcing our children to pack up and go on to a new middle school for 1 year and then to yet another bigger, school is a recipe for trouble for many youths.

More ideas and work needs to be done to present other plans for realignment to the general tax paying citizens directly affected by this decision. This seems like a good place to start. Lets see all the plans that were considered and let the citizens decide.

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4/23/2012 20:42:26CarrieDuffeyPrune Hill Elementary1We just moved and will be slated for Woodburn. I am trying to find information regarding the socio-economic balance as my neighbors are telling me that Woodburn will have a much larger percentage of kids on reduced lunch. Is this true? We specifically moved here from another district because all of Camas Schools perform well and the district has done a good job of balancing its diversity. I would greatly appreciate a response
Carrie Duffey
carrie.duffey@gmail.com

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4/23/2012 20:52:30SarahGeorgeLacamas Height Elementary1/3/2005We live on the south side of 38th ave. Our address is 818 NE 38 AVE. Our kids attend Lacamas Heights. I'm just looking for clarification if we are staying at Lacamas or will be going to Helen Baller?
We are not a part of the Waterleaf neighborhood, there is a greenbelt between our row of houses and that neigborhood.
We will attend one of the upcoming meetings this week.
Thank you for all your work!
Brenden and Sarah George

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4/24/2012 8:22:09MichelleStollerHelen Baller Elementary2/4/2012Thank-you for your communication and information. I feel that all Camas Schools are wonderful and knew some shifting would need to be done when the new school was added. Now that the map has been disclosed, my only request is that the finalized plans are finished and released ASAP so we know, instead of being in the state of maybe for too long. Thanks again for all your hard work for our kids!

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4/24/2012 9:46:41JohnBreuerLacamas Height Elementary4I would urge that you reconsider your choices for feeder schools into the middle schools. I had to read this list several times to assure myself that there was no typo and that i was reading it correctly because it is so obviously flawed. Why on earth would we bus Dorothy Fox kids all the way over to Liberty and bus Lacamas kids all the way around the lake? I understand that there is some criterion to balance socio-economic levels in the two middle schools. We don't care about this. What is it that no parent ever has enough of? Time. We don't want to spend extra hours and hours over the course of a school year (not to mention the dozens of hours the kids will waste on the bus) commuting just so we can feel slightly more 'equal' with the other school. Please reconsider this silly decision!

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4/24/2012 9:53:28ShungShinPrune Hill Elementary1Hi,
I moved to Camas area last Summer with knowing the great reputation of Prune Hill Elementary School. That was a very big decision for my family, who does not like any big changes. I reviewed the criteria for making changes for school boundary, and noticed that there was very important missing criterion, The Kids. I think the school boundary should be determined by considering the kids, not other economic factors, and I don't think any kids like big changes like moving to another school. The current boundary was made just less than two years ago, and now changing again is not fair for those who moved to this area recently. Please consider what the kids like. Please don't make so often changes. For example, if bus route is a issue, then let those (who want to keep the current school) have their own ride so that they can keep the current school.

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4/24/2012 10:11:38MelanieCanifaxDorothy Fox Elementary, Skyridge Middle School1/5/2007

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4/24/2012 10:52:38DebbiLessardLiberty Middle School6I am again the change of Lacamas Elementary being a feeder to Skyridge, when Dorothy Fox is almost next door to Skyridge.
The transportation cost of taking kids up and down Lake Road is crazy, and the increase in bus time for the kids. The buses will literally pass each other on the road!!
The transportation cost/time to the parents for getting their kids from after school sports/activities is ridiculous.
My daughter went to Skyridge for 8th grade and I know how difficult it was from where we lived. There is no easy way for Lacamas families to get to Skyridge with the lake being in the way.
Dorothy Fox parents/kids don't need to be torn out/away from their neighborhoods and have their kids go across town for future projections.
Please swap the schools back to Lacamas to Liberty and Dorothy Fox to Skyridge.
Please contact me if you need further information from me, I was on the last boundary committee, so I know how hard this is!!
Thanks, Debbi Lessard 834-4911

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4/24/2012 12:20:08JoakimAlgstamDorothy Fox Elementary, Skyridge Middle School3/6/2012I fail to see how the schools are being balanced with the proposed plan. Rather, it is dividing Camas along old and new, more money and less money, schools with higher test scores and lower test scores. In short it is a class war. Do we really need this in our community. We live on the very northeastern edge of the Fox boundary with Grass Valley. We can see Grass Valley and Skyridge from our home. We bought with the expectation that our children would go to neighborhood schools. It seems counterintuitive to send our children to schools 3x farther away than those just mentioned. It doesn't save on transportation costs, it doesn't balance the schools. We think this is a terrible plan that will divide Camas into the haves and have not's. Please don't carry through with this plans. We understand realigning kids in the Sunningdale area to their neighborhood school but not at the expense of shipping kids just as close to the school to schools much farther away. Two wrongs don't make a right. Please reconsider and either keep Fox at Skyridge or move the upper Hollly Hills area back with the rest of the rest of the Holly Hills neighborhood (the lower part) and assign them to Grass Valley.

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4/24/2012 13:08:51JulieReedLiberty Middle School6Parents living in the Lacamas Heights area will have a problem transporting their kids to and from Skyridge. I realize that Transportation has been consulted, but the Lake Road/Everett intersection is a already huge choke point. Adding the extra traffic coming primarily from the north area to that intersection is going to only make it worse on an intersection that is already overburdened.

Parents will have to drive an extra 6-8 miles every day to pick their kids up from activities or if their kids have early morning activities, not to mention the extra time it will take with the choke point or having to reroute around the lake.

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4/24/2012 13:15:41CindyHalcumbLacamas Height Elementary5We built our home in the Lacamas/Liberty school district boundaries in 1994. My kids attended Lacamas from K-5, and my son Liberty and now CHS. My daughter intends to attend Liberty for the next three years, and should be vested in this school with her peers. Driving to Lacamas Heights, while only 3 additional miles, is on a high traffic road and will add much time and frustruation for us and the buses. We live in rural Clark County because we do not deal well with traffic and dense neighborhoods. The kids that attend Lacamas now already spend hours each day for the round trip bus route. If they have to travel even further, their days will become excessively long. The proposed change is drastic for all of us, and needs to be modified. This is seriously frustrating.

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4/24/2012 13:21:50TammyClarkeSkyridge Middle School6Our daughter went to Prune Hill Elementary 1st through 5th grade and is now a thriving 6th grader at Skyridge Elementary. We bought our home 11 years ago for the sole purpose of our daughter attending Prune Hill Elementary, Skyridge Middle School, and finishing up her grade school education at Camas High School. I am therefore very much in favor of Prune Hill Elementary continuing to go onto Skyridge Middle School. I fear what a change of middle schools would do to not only our daughter but her PH classmates. The thought of our kids on a daily rus ride on Highway 14, if a change were to be made, is not safe or acceptable. I appreciate the time and effort the CAC has taken to come up with the boundary proposals. Thank you for your time.

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4/24/2012 13:24:00KristenNichols RiceLacamas Height Elementary, Liberty Middle School4/6/2012We find it completely unacceptable that Lacamas Heights is to be a feeder school for Skyridge. From our home the drive to Skyridge is double the drive to Liberty, as it is for most students in the Fern Prairie/Lvingston area. It is completely unreasonable to have our children be on buses longer when there are students much closer to Skyridge. We would also like to know how many parents from students in our area are on the boundary committee.

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4/24/2012 13:26:13Kris JamisonPrune Hill Elementary1/3/2005If these changes go through, my family will never again support the Camas School District.

No one in our neighborhood was consulted.

Basing school attendance on socio-economic balance has been tried before and does not work.

Failure to properly manage growth in the school district should not be our
problem. This failure now affects my children and my property value. I don't take this lightly.

What are the names of the memebers of the BRC and CAC?

I look forward to your response.

Sincerely,
Kris Jamison



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4/24/2012 13:27:02MichelleVanceDorothy Fox Elementary, Liberty Middle School3/8/2012I think that Dorothy Fox should continue to feed to Skyridge. Before taking on additional numbers of students, Liberty needs to address problems within its administration. On a separate issue, the elementary walk zones are too large for children of that age to safely walk to and from school, especially in inclement weather.

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4/24/2012 13:38:27AnnMatthewsSkyridge Middle School6/7/2012I'm concerned about the 8th grade class that will all be split up! This will be our daughters 8th grade year, and when they finally get to play school sports and their last year of middle school, I think separating the 8th graders will be very hard for the kids. Can't the 8th graders stay and just start with the incoming kids??

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4/24/2012 13:44:45anonymousanonymousGrass Valley Elementary1/4/2012Will you also put in your FAQ the new free/reduced lunch % with the new boundaries? It looks like a pretty big gap between middle schools. I'm curious to see the what the elementary schools will look like.

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4/24/2012 13:52:04LarryLiuSkyridge Middle School7My wife and I strongly disagree with the proposed change of having the Dorothy Fox kids going to Liberty Middle School. My daughter can safely walk from Skyridge Middle School to our home on 28th Cir. But it is very unsafe for her to walk from Liberty back home for lacking of proper sidewalks in that area. We chose where we live now because the kids in our neighborhood can attend Skyridge. However, our property values may be negatively affected if our neighborhood kids will have to go to Liberty.

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4/24/2012 14:11:29LisaBjorgeDorothy Fox Elementary1When looking at the proposed map, it looks like our street is right on the Dorothy Fox/Grass Valley line. Our address is 2250 NW 32nd Circle, would you mind clarifying which elementary boundary our house is in?

Thank you,
Lisa Bjorge

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4/24/2012 14:22:06JinaStainbrookDorothy Fox Elementary2When we moved to Camas we specifically chose our neighborhood because of the particular schools. Dorothy Fox and Skyridge. Based on the school board findings I don't believe it warrants the boundary change.

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4/24/2012 14:22:32AnnetteKingHelen Baller Elementary3We are opposed to the District's use of the Lacamas Shores neighborhood as socioeconomic ballast in the effort to shore-up a lower performing school. The boundary map clearly illustrates unfair and illogical school assignment based on home values (not actual household resources). Despite the fact that most of the neighborhood homes are less than one mile from Grass Valley Elem., students are bussed several miles to Helen Baller. This boundary structure is even more disjointed when considering middle schools, as Skyridge is even closer than Grass Valley Elementary to most neighborhood homes. This is antithetical to the cry of "lack of school funding", when thousands of dollars are being wasted on desegregation transportation in the name of social engineering/"socioeconomic balance", and certainly does not bode well for community support of future school funding bonds and levies.

The proposal to bus students away from the nearest/neighborhood school to a school with lower test scores sends the message that the District would prefer that those students attend school outside the District.

Even the beleaguered yet far more diverse Portland School District did away with bussing and balancing years ago. Either spread your sorcery over EVERY school in a FAIR-HANDED manner by distance-bussing students from MANY neighborhoods, or stop wasting our tax dollars and, singling out ONE GROUP, and let students attend the school CLOSEST TO THEIR HOME. Singling out a SINGLE GROUP of students to attend a lower-scoring school that is 4-to 8 times further away than the school right up the street is not acceptable.

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4/24/2012 14:43:11JamieWrightDorothy Fox Elementary1/3/2012I understand the tremendous time and efforts that went into revising boundaries with the addition of a new school and thank the committee for their dedication to Camas students and families. We currently live in Dorothy Fox school boundaries and will be moving to Helen Baller with the proposed plan. I am well aware that Helen Baller is a wonderful school with outstanding teachers and education. My concerns are 1) We lose our connectivity with the neighborhood; and 2) Helen Baller is much further in distance. As considerations are being made to adjust boundaries, I hope the committee will consider community connectedness. This boundary change is pulling us away from our community; the neighbors we associate with; the parks we play at; the trails we walk. Rarely, if ever do we spend time in the revised Helen Baller boundary. Additionally, we walk our children to school quite frequently. We are so close to Fox that we were nearly considered to be in the walk zone. Walking to school will no longer be an option if we are moved to Baller, creating additional transportation costs and travel.

Again, I understand the in depth time and work that goes into making these decisions and appreciate all the efforts that are being made to best meet the demands of a growing community. I hope these concerns will be considered as final decisions are being made.

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4/24/2012 15:26:05HelenLehnerLacamas Height Elementary, Liberty Middle School5/8/2012I know how difficult these types of decisions are and the numerous parameters which must be met. Thank you for your efforts in engaging in a process such as this. I have a 5th grader at Lacamas. Please help me to understand how bussing children from the top of Livingston Mtn. is a better alternative than sending Woodburn students to Skyridge? It may only be 3 additional miles on the way there, but what is the difference on the way home? Also, what is the "time on the bus" difference. Additionally, while I agree that both Liberty and Skyridge offer high quality education, there is a different "flavor" to each school which is perhaps related to the demographics of the students and/or the mindset of parents. At Lacamas, Helen Baller & Liberty there seems to be greater diversity socioeconomically and we like that diversity! Our third child has had the opportunity to be a Liberty Lion and it is an environment we would like our youngest daughter to experience. Please reconsider option # 4 which further balances F/R% and don't allow numbers for 2021 & $ signs to dictate sending Lacamas students further than makes "community" sense. Thank you.

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4/24/2012 15:50:34JanetNelsonLacamas Height Elementary, Liberty Middle School4/5/2008Three additional miles, especially when coming from the Livingston Mtn area, is a big difference and is not acceptable. Option #2 appears to impact the students a lot less, and makes more sense from a geography standpoint. Both option #2 and option #6 exceed the capacity at Skyridge in 2021, so why not choose the option with less impact to LH families and less impact to the number of students changing middle schools. The kids already have a very early bus time, and adding 3 more miles, up a hill / curvy road, is going to make their bus time ridiculously early. I thought CSD was attempting to address the early start times,not make them worse. There is only a difference of 55 in the 2021 enrollment between option #2 and option #6; option #6 has a much greater impact on students and families, yet it is the one being picked instead of #2. This does not make sense.

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4/24/2012 16:04:21SheriDelgadoDorothy Fox Elementary, Skyridge Middle School3/5/2008I’m a highly involved parent that dedicates a lot of time to my kids’ schools including fundraising, staff appreciation, class room volunteer to name a few. There are many days when I drive to school two or three times during the day. When my husband and I found our home in Camas, the deciding factor was the proximity to the schools. From our home, we can see Skyridge Middle School and that’s where we wanted our kids to attend. With the current economy, our home has dramatically decreased in value and now being faced with disruption during our kids middle school years is adding insult to injury. As we aren’t able to sell our house at this time, we feel we are stuck with whatever is handed to us and perhaps moving to Camas was a mistake. The impact of this middle school redistricting on the families involved is much larger than the committee seems to realize. The change in feeder schools is a terrible idea, affecting a lot of families with no good reason.

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4/24/2012 16:35:59JamieBroadbentPrune Hill Elementary1/4/2012My current address is 2418 NW Oxford Street. My son is currently in fourth grade and my daughter is in 1st. Both children have been attending Prune Hill since they have started school. Our family was devistated to see that the proposed new boundaries have will have my daughter moving to Grass Valley.

When I look at the map I am very confused with some of the logic around this. Marlyand and Oxford/24th street appear to be where the new boundary is. This is a very tiny,itty bitty,slight change from the prior years, and this change (within that specific little area) appears to effect very few families. Unfortunately, my family is one of them. It should be noted that in our direct neigborhoood, (Thomas Estates)we currently have ten (maybe less)students that currently attend Prune Hill and would have to be moved to Grass Valley.

To further confuse matters, Maryland Street is only one street up from Oxford Street. I share the back yard with my neighbor that resides on Marlyand street. Furthermore, if I read the map correctly (and maybe I am not), her children would be able to stay at Prune Hill,yet mine would be bused to Grass Valley. We are live a half mile away from Prune Hill and several from Grass Valley.

Maryland Street does not have a developed sidewalk. There is approx 30 feet of land that isn't developed where there is no sidewalk. Consequently, the kids on Maryland do not have a safe walkway and would have to be bussed to school anyway. If these kids are being bused to Prune Hill I strongly propose the kids that live on Oxford street be provided this same opportunity. If I am reading the map incorrectly, I would still strongly advocate that the children on Oxford Street be permitted to stay at Prune Hill and we further explore busing issues. Though Maryland Street currently doesn't have a developed street, the city may put one in over the next school year.

This is not a very articulate comment, and I plan to attend the meeting tonight to voice my concern better. It is my hope we are to work through this for a solution that people can live with.

Thank You,
Jamie Broadbent

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4/24/2012 18:54:18I-Ju LindaGrass Valley Elementary1I appreciate that the residents on the north of Lake road and west of NW Jackson street are still remained in Grass Valley's school district since they are so close to this elementary school and Skyridge middle school. I am going to purchase a house in the 59th Cir and glad that my daughter still can continue to go to the the same school. She loves Grass Valley!

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4/24/2012 20:55:10RusselThomasDorothy Fox Elementary, Liberty Middle School1/4/2007We live at 1125 NW 21ST AVE... based on the proposed boundary changes we are part of a small pocket of houses being moved out of the Fox Boundary to Helen Baller Elem. Our major problem is that we feel it pulls our children from their neighborhood of friends and places and puts them into an area they cannot easily access nor have existing community ties or ability to form new ones outside of school hours.

According to Google Earth, Fox Elementary as the crow files is approx .45 miles from our front door. There is a trail behind our house that provides easy access to Fox and year round our children ride their bikes or meet friends at the playground and properties around Fox.

There is no possibility for this now or in the future at HB Elem. There is a major hill and two major roads standing between our kids and HB. We would never allow them to ride bikes or walk to HB. HB is a great school no doubt but is not in or near our neighborhood. The friends they will no-doubt make at HB will be inaccessible outside of school hours.

We understand that the decision for our street to be moved is based almost entirely on socio-economic balance. Why else would our neighborhood be scooped out while other homes on all four sides remain in Fox. Meanwhile, neighborhoods much closer to HB come up the hill - the buses literally passing each other each day. To me this puts a value on a child akin to a baseball card. The committee moves our kids to HB and moves buses other kids to Fox thinking of their "value" like a baseball stat. But in this instance the "value" of our children is not in line with the "needs" of our children.

Community ties and stability should be the #1 factor in setting boundaries.

We picked the lot we built our house on after careful consideration and only after interviewing the staff and teachers at Fox elementary. It never crossed our minds that we would be moved to any other school because Fox is our community school, our neighborhood school it's the school out our backyard and down the street. HB might have better facilities, better test scores, better balance etc... but it isn't our community/neighborhood school.

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4/24/2012 21:15:56StacieNeffSkyridge Middle School6I would like to reiterate some of what I expressed on my comment card from Tuesday’s forum and add some additional comments based on reflection. I listened and heard what was presented by Mr. Nerland and the conclusions of the BRC. I also listened and heard what was expressed by the parents.

In the end, it’s not about walk zones, subdivisions, transportation or socio-economic statistics. For the parents who have students impacted by ”option 6” it is about what can’t be measured by maps, numbers and statistics. It is about what is far more important: community and roots. BOTH Dorothy Fox/Skyridge zoned parents and Lacamas Heights/Liberty zoned parents echoed the exact same sentiment. PLEASE don’t disrupt what we have worked so hard to build and create. We have made Camas strong because we have built this community and we have built a sense of belonging. As the saying goes “it takes a village” As parent’s we cultivate relationships and contribute however we can. We teach our children about school spirit and the importance of friends. We instill pride.
And 4 days ago we were told of a decision that impacts us to the core. Communication was severely lacking and coincidentally withheld. We are reassured that there will be “programs in place to help students transition.” Well there doesn’t need to be if the BRC looks closer. Please look at how the numbers presented do NOT justify the option. Please look at what the numbers don’t represent.

Lastly, If capacity was the real issue, please consider other options like expanding the schools to support their dedicated following, instead of reshuffling existing systems based on expected future new residents.

Respectfully,
Stacie Neff

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4/24/2012 22:08:31AllisonNicholsDorothy Fox Elementary1/2/2012My kids are so happy with the experience they have had so far at Dorothy Fox. I just hope it will continue at Helen Baller. We are concerned, but understand that a change was inevitable. I have no plans on complaining or going against the new bounderies unless the experience at the new school turns out to be a negative one.

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4/24/2012 22:11:08AaronMcCartyPrune Hill Elementary1/4/2012According to the Middle School Table it seems option 2 would be the best choice for two reasons. First, the least amount of students would be impacted. The number of students who must change middle schools is 133, by far the least amount of students out of all options. The chart is a bit deceiving as it shows enrollment numbers and lists Woodburn Elementary, however Woodburn does not have any current students enrolled for 2011 so all numbers seem lower when adding Woodburn to the enrollment. For example, on option 2 the numbers for Skyridge show 823 for 2011 enrollment with three schools: DF, GV, PH while Liberty shows 643 for 2011 enrollment but only two currently open schools are listed: LH & HB. Woodburn is not currently open to have 2011 enrollment numbers so the numbers make Skyridge enrollment seem higher.

Another reason option 2 is the best choice is driving distance and fuel cost for two groups of students. Lacamas students will be transported an additional 3 miles driving distance, rather than 1 mile driving distance twice each day. This will have a great financial impact, especially as fuel costs are extremely high. The impact of cost should be more carefully considered. The FAQ did not address the additional fuel cost of DF students to Liberty as opposed to Skyridge twice each day. This should be accounted for as well.

In summary, I believe option 2 is a better choice for middle school boundaries based on the least amount of students impacted and transportation costs of bussing students extra distances when closer options would be more cost effective. Thank you for your consideration.

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4/24/2012 22:11:45KellyStremelDorothy Fox Elementary1/3/2012We live in Drewf's Farm neighborhood, about 4 blocks from Dorothy Fox. We love the school. My youngest started Kindergarten there and my daughter started 1st grade there. Previously, she was at JDZ, so we already have been rezoned/redirected once. All of her friends live in the Dorothy Fox zone and it would be traumatic for her to start fresh in 4th grade at Helen Baller. I request that our neighborhood stay as a Dorothy Fox school. We feel that it is part of our neighborhood school. Please call me at 360-687-1332 if I can offer up additional comments. Thank you, Kelly Stremel

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4/24/2012 22:40:15JohnGuffeyDorothy Fox Elementary2So it appears that I chose to live in the wrong place to ensure my child goes to Dorothy Fox and then Skyridge Middle School. I understand that the board has not fully disclosed all of the reasons for the proposed boundary changes. The true reason for the change is to reallocate low income students into Dorothy Fox to increase the percentage of low income students that qualify the school for free and or reduced student lunch federal aide. I now have to spend more money and time to travel to a school across town instead of the school a couple minutes from home on the way to work. It seems that the socioeconomic goal is to have a higher income population at Skyridge and a lower income population at Liberty. I am disappointed in the lack of transparency and decision on the district to shake up the neighborhoods. To appropriately reallocate the students by boundary it should be based purely on proximity and be allocated by population of students needed to match the capacity. If that means Dorothy Fox students split between Liberty and Skyridge then so be it. Most people took the neighborhood school progression into consideration when purchasing a home, and the patchwork being recommended to get dollars is an irritating proposition to say the least.

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4/24/2012 22:40:20PegLelandSkyridge Middle School6Hello,
It's frustrating that Liberty already had all the houses in Lacamas shores with the view of the lake, now they also get the houses on the hill? How can that possibly be a socioeconomically balanced? We have been locked into our limited real estate choices since my daughter started Skyridge 4 years ago; we were hoping this boundary revision would bring more equity but it seems to have made it worse.
Thank you,
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4/24/2012 23:32:27LauraAlleyDorothy Fox Elementary, Skyridge Middle School4/8/2012Would it be possible to do a rolling implementation at the middle school? In other words, the incoming 6th graders come from the new feeder schools, but the 7th and 8th graders stay at the school from the 2011/2012 school year. Then the 7th graders roll into 8th grade and then out.

I realize there would be some logistics, but it is another thought.
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4/25/2012 8:00:58JanetNelsonLacamas Height Elementary, Liberty Middle School4/5/2008CSD has done a very poor job communicating the Middle School Boundary Changes. The majority of the communication has been focused on the new Elementary School and the necessary boundary changes for it. Buried within these messages has been mention of adjusting feeder schools for the middle schools. This is not the level of professionalism that I expect from CSD. You inundate me with messages about the MSP, and send out automated messages for late start – yet send me a sentence, buried in an e-mail, about boundary changes for the middle schools – something which impacts my everyday life, for years to come.

CSD needs to not only communicate the middle school boundary changes, as a separate communication, but also communicate the resulting impact of your current recommendation. Your communication needs to have a subject matter along the lines of:

e-mail 1: Middle School Boundaries Changing: In this communication you need to clearly state where you are planning to bus our kids, criteria used, and forum meeting times or methods to provide feedback. And, just a suggestion, but you might as well explain why you didn’t select option #2 – the one that displaces the least # of students and has almost identical stats to option #6 (except that the # of students impacted by #6 is 5x).

e-mail 2: Pick-up/Drop off times (or school hours?) for CHS and Middle Schools Changing: I fail to see how busing kids the extra 3.2 miles is not going to significantly impact bus pick up times and/or school hours. This will impact not only families with middle school kids, but also families with high school kids – unless you plan to have different buses for CHS and middle school. What is the plan here? How does this align with this year’s goal of starting later? How will this impact transportation costs?

e-mail 3: Lake Rd. Traffic Pattern Impact: You need to communicate to the community at large that you are going to now start busing more kids up and down Lake Rd. in order to send the kids from DF down to Liberty, and to send LH students up Lake Rd. to Skyridge. I hope that in here you can also highlight the traffic impact studies you considered in your decision. This is going to greatly impact everyone who travels Lake Rd. and SR-500/Everett.

I believe the middle school boundary change, and the meeting forum information, has a big enough impact to people’s lives that you should communicate this not only via e-mail but also via the CSD automated message system. It needs to be made clear that the boundary changes may also impact CHS families (you have failed to communicate your plan for transportation, so this is just an educated guess that CHS transportation will also be impacted).

You still have an opportunity to regroup and do the right thing by being very up front in your communications. Please take it.

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4/25/2012 9:56:36HelenCharneskiNoneNoneWhen will the comments be posted?

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4/25/2012 13:13:26AlexAdlerDorothy Fox Elementary1We live in the Drewfs Farm neighborhood, which is very close to Dorothy Fox. One of the reasons we moved to that neighborhood, was the location of Dorothy Fox. A great location where my children would eventually be able to walk or ride a bike to school. Now they would have to travel alot further, down a dangerous road (18th) into old town Camas, which we obviously will never allow. On top of that, there is an area closer to Helen Baller where the kids will have to go to Dorothy Fox. I really don't understand that reasoning. I don't think any neighborhood on Fargo should be traveling down through 18th to go to school. Thank You

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4/25/2012 13:45:55PennySchmidtDorothy Fox Elementary, Skyridge Middle School5/8/2012My 5th grader has just put up with a year of construction at Fox elementary and now when she has been so looking forward to moving on to Skyridge like her brother, she is now very upset that she will have to be uprooted from her middle school in her second year. I see that option 6 will result in a whopping 622 students who will have to transition to a new middle school while option 2 affects the least number of kids at just 133. Option 2 also results in the most even split between the 2 schools in 2021. Therefor, I believe option 2 is the best choice. I just feel that middle school is difficult enough w/o having to move to a new school. Isn't there some way that the kids who start at one of the middle schools could be accomodated through 8th grade w/o having to move? This has caused many tears in my household over the last few days. Thank you.

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4/25/2012 14:38:24alankabelLacamas Height Elementary2/5/2012Regarding the redistricting. My daughter may have to go one year to Liberty and 2 to Skyridge. So why not just let her attend all three years at Skyridge to avoid the stress of starting another school. Schuffling kids in and out of different schools seems like a dumb idea and should be avoided if it is easy to do. I don't see what difference it makes in terms of bus service to start people effected by this in Skyridge in the fall instead of waiting a year and disrupting them

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4/25/2012 15:13:37LindaBeldLacamas Height Elementary, Liberty Middle School5/8/2012I do not like the fact that Lacamas Students will be attending Skyridge. My daughter does not need to start one school and be shuffled for two years to another. Dorothy Fox students should remain at Skyridge while the kids at Lacamas should remain at Liberty. My primary reason moving here 5 yrs ago was because I checked out the schools and was happy with the. I am not happy with this change. My daughter wanted to attend the school her brother attended and that is important to a lot of families. Both schools being switched has the same capacity. Not represented fairly.

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4/25/2012 15:32:38LindaBeldLacamas Height Elementary, Liberty Middle School5/8/2012Option 2 should be implemented as it impacts the fewest students. Why would a decision be implemented impacting the most students, To me its sounds like there is not fair representation on this committee. I along with other parents may have to look at other options for our middle school students. There are many other choices then feed them back into the High School for their 9th grade year.

I also know I will be the first to vote against anymore Levy's or Bonds for the school district and I bet the majority of the other families will to. If the plan is implemented that effects the most instead of the least.

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4/25/2012 15:32:39LindaBeldLacamas Height Elementary, Liberty Middle School5/8/2012Option 2 should be implemented as it impacts the fewest students. Why would a decision be implemented impacting the most students, To me its sounds like there is not fair representation on this committee. I along with other parents may have to look at other options for our middle school students. There are many other choices then feed them back into the High School for their 9th grade year.

I also know I will be the first to vote against anymore Levy's or Bonds for the school district and I bet the majority of the other families will to. If the plan is implemented that effects the most instead of the least.

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4/25/2012 15:43:33anoynamouspersonNoneNoneThis is THE WORST decision you've ever made!!!! My daughter has been bawling because she doesn't get to go to Skyridge!!! I wish you at least wouldn't have switched Lacamas Heights and Dorothy Fox! Whoever made this decision is a very absent-minded human being. I hope you will change your perspective about this.

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4/25/2012 15:43:46KimSchluterDorothy Fox Elementary1/4/2012Why have you waited until the 'last minute' to communicate with the parents on these changes? At the last meeting regarding boundary changes, you told us that Dorothy Fox would be the least affected. What changed?
What are your plans for future growth? It is clear that the growth was not taken into consideration until the last minute.
What are your plans for the tremendous growth situation when our students reach high school?

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4/25/2012 15:46:02LindaBeldLacamas Height Elementary, Liberty Middle School5/8/2012Option 2 for the next few years would probably not even have that high of a change as transfers are allowed. Most families moving into the district will have young children and the impact on the middle schools will not even be a problem for several years. Why create chaos when it isn't necessary. My kids will completely be done with the school system by 2019 and so will a majority of the families you are planning on interrupting I would not think come the next year the school district needs money for funding I would not want that many voters, voting no on new Levy's or Bonds. I know the homes on Livingston Mountain pays more in property taxes than some and the the majority of parents that have approached me are against Option 6. It disrupts to many families.

There are to many choices from homeschooling, charter schools and VSAA, that I would opt for my daughter to go to for 7 and 8 grade than transfer from Liberty to Skyridge. I am one parent but know the vast majority of 4th and 5th grade parents at Lacamas are aginst this move.

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4/25/2012 15:51:04LindaBeldLacamas Height Elementary, Liberty Middle School5/8/2012Option 2 is best for the students and the future funding of Camas School District. I lobbied for the last funding and can do the same against. I do not see the children's best interest be taken into consideration

It is also a sad note that both meetings were scheduled on the two evening that Lacamas has school programs. I feel that was done so the Lacamas parents would not get a chance to voice their opinion.

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4/25/2012 15:51:04LindaBeldLacamas Height Elementary, Liberty Middle School5/8/2012Option 2 is best for the students and the future funding of Camas School District. I lobbied for the last funding and can do the same against. I do not see the children's best interest be taken into consideration

It is also a sad note that both meetings were scheduled on the two evening that Lacamas has school programs. I feel that was done so the Lacamas parents would not get a chance to voice their opinion.

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4/25/2012 15:51:13LindaBeldLacamas Height Elementary, Liberty Middle School5/8/2012Option 2 is best for the students and the future funding of Camas School District. I lobbied for the last funding and can do the same against. I do not see the children's best interest be taken into consideration

It is also a sad note that both meetings were scheduled on the two evening that Lacamas has school programs. I feel that was done so the Lacamas parents would not get a chance to voice their opinion.

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4/25/2012 16:03:44LindaBeldLacamas Height Elementary, Liberty Middle School5/8/2012Option 2 for the next few years would probably not even have that high of a change as transfers are allowed. Most families moving into the district will have young children and the impact on the middle schools will not even be a problem for several years. Why create chaos when it isn't necessary. My kids will completely be done with the school system by 2019 and so will a majority of the families you are planning on interrupting I would not think come the next year the school district needs money for funding I would not want that many voters, voting no on new Levy's or Bonds. I know the homes on Livingston Mountain pays more in property taxes than some and the the majority of parents that have approached me are against Option 6. It disrupts to many families.

There are to many choices from homeschooling, charter schools and VSAA, that I would opt for my daughter to go to for 7 and 8 grade than transfer from Liberty to Skyridge. I am one parent but know the vast majority of 4th and 5th grade parents at Lacamas are aginst this move.

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4/25/2012 17:05:50GlenSugimotoDorothy Fox Elementary1/4/2012What is the reasoning behind having children living in the Columbia Summit neighborhood attend Liberty? Skyridge is much closer. The school is basically down our hill. Additionally, I believe you'll find traffic congestion from families traveling on NW 28th. As we all know, the street are residential all the way from the Columbia Summit neighborhood to Liberty (speed limit 25MPH). Conversely, NW 16th and NW Parker have significantly fewer houses from the Columbia Summit neighborhood to Skyridge. Please reconsider the boundary for the Columbia Summit neighborhood. Skyridge is closer and safer to travel (especially during Winter) for the Columbia Summit neighborhood. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Glen Sugimoto
glen_sugimoto@yahoo.com

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4/25/2012 20:45:46YanLiuSkyridge Middle School7Our family admantly oppose the idea of having the DF kids going to Liberty for Middle School! The Skyridge is more accessible to our kids. The kids in our neighborhood tend to close ties with the kids from PH and GV because of they most likely share the same play grounds, and outdoor spaces. Having them going to different middle schools will tear up that natural connections between them.

It makes much more sense to have DF, PH and GV kids attending Skyridge, and LH, HB, and W kids going to Liberty for accesibility and after-school activities reasons.

It is also not fair at all to the families who decided to live where they are because of the original middle school boundary arrangement. Had they known the proposed boundary arrangement, they may have not chosen where they live now.

Portables is an easyly solution for tempory over-crowdness. Expansion in the future is the best option. Hauling kids to a far way school in a unfamiliar neighborhood is the wosrt option of all. Make the buildings serve the kids, but not try to fit the kids into your buildings.

Please think of the feelings of the kids and their parents when you make the decision.

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4/25/2012 22:37:12JillHubbellDorothy Fox Elementary2After reviewing the information that has been provided to the parents, it appears the Committee Review Board has missed the fact that the 3 proposed feeder schools going to Skyridge have the highest MSP/HSPE test scores in the district and the 2 currently running feeder schools going to Liberty have the lowest MSP/HSPE test schools in the district. Not to mention that the re-districting of the schools keeps the socio-economic balance out of balance by quite a bit (very little improvement). My concern is that by the time the 2 middle schools reach Camas High School, there will be a larger gap in education/knowledge as teachers would be teaching to their highest student’s ability, which based on test scores are at a lower level at Liberty.

If I was new to the area and was looking at test scores of the local elementary schools and middle schools in Camas and noted the best test scores were in the elementary schools feeding into the Skyridge Middle School, I would be moving into those school zones. Wouldn't that then cause the population of Skyridge to continue to grow, thus making the need to expand that school imminent in the near future? It would be a hard pill to swallow if I am asked in the next 5 years to support a bond to expand Skyridge due to population when this proposal is supposed to “fix” that problem.

Please reconsider the boundaries you have set. I want to see Dorothy Fox stay as a feeder school to Skyridge.

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4/26/2012 1:05:15alankabelLacamas Height Elementary2/5/2012Personally I have no problem with my daughter attending Skyridge or Liberty. They are both good schools.

From a logical standpoint I don't understand how it is good for anyone especially a kid to start one school and then be removed to another.
It seems that there is a better solution then that like deciding what school she is going to go to and then doing the right thing by allowing her to go all three years to that school. Shuffling kids from one school to another is not in the best interest of the kids especailly the small ones. I think you know that. You should.

Making quick decisions about all of this is also not logical and in no ones best interest. Tread carefully. The parents you are alienating today, and there are many, will be voting on your future bond issues when their kids are out of school.

Power corrupts and absolute power corupts absolutely. What is the logical thing to do and what best serves the needs of the kids. That is the only thing you, we all should be concerned with. Look in the mirror and ask yourself if what you are doing is the right thing for the right reasons.

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4/26/2012 9:17:34EllieHuttonLacamas Height Elementary5I have twin 5th graders. At Tuesday's meeting, it would have been good to have Dick Essex and possibly other transportation representatives present to answer questions parents had about how the proposed Option 6 bus routes will work. Without that detail of analysis of costs, travel routes for both middle schoolers and high schoolers (ie. Do they travel on the same bus to high school 1st and then onto middle school in am and reverse in pm?), consideration of travel time each and every day for years to come for these students who currently attend Lacamas Heights, parents cannot fully understand the impact.
Please make sure that entire district maps are on poster boards placed on easels for Thursday's meeting. The only letter size map for elementary schools available for parents to pick up was the walk zone map. Yes, there were large district maps on tables for group meetings, but they were laying flat and were never used by board member Jullie Rotz in our discussions about distance and travel time Lacamas Heights students would face. I am concerned that all parents in the district may not be aware of how large of an area is covered by buses for our students. We are part of CSD and deserve to be well-represented in the options that have been presented.
I will write my other thoughts later.

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4/26/2012 9:47:20JonathanEddyDorothy Fox Elementary2Thanks for taking the time to gather comments regarding the proposed school boundary changes. We live in the Drewf's Farm neighborhood (northeast side of Prune Hill), and if the proposed changes were put in effect, our kids would change from Dorothy Fox to Helen Baller School. This would not be the first time our neighborhood has experienced a boundary change. In fact, just three years ago, our neighborhood changed from JDZ to Dorothy Fox, which was a welcome, logical change since Dorothy Fox was closer and much more convenient for students and family. This still should apply today, for the following reasons;

1) DISTANCE - The distance from our neighborhood bus stop to Dorothy Fox is .65 statute miles and the distance from the bus stop to Helen Baller is 1.42 statute miles. The elevation change to Dorothy Fox is 106 feet vs. 383 feet of elevation change to Helen Baller. This makes walking to school not possible.

2) Our Boundaries Have Already Changed - in 2009 when we moved here, we were zoned for JDZ. Many neighborhood kids already attending JDZ changed to Dorothy Fox. They have established friendships and have settled in to Fox. Now were are being asked to change again. This is not serving our children well.

3) Social Stability is Important for Children - There are many current headlines about the subject of "bullying", and it's destructive effects on children. This will be a significant issue with the amount of changes proposed for the 2013 school year. Being the "new kid" does not help, even (especially) with the magnitude of the proposed changes.

4) The Map Does Not Align with all the Criteria as Defined on the Boundary Review Committee Web Page - Of the stated criteria guiding the review process, there are a number that seem to conflict with one another, and do not align with our neighborhood being moved to Helen Baller;

"Minimize student travel and transportation costs" - Helen Baller is 221% further from our neighborhood bus stop. While they are being bussed to Baller, they will likely pass a bus going the other way taking kids from the bottom of Prune Hill to Fox (see section of homes at the base of NW 18th). This is overlap, and very wasteful.

"Consider neighborhood connectivity"- the route from Drewf's Farm is seperated by more major roads than the route to Fox, reducing neighborhood connectivity. The topography of the hill also seperates our neighborhood from Baller.

"Include walk areas in each school attendance boundary" - while I realize this applies to homes close in to schools, as stated before, there is NO safe walking route for students to Baller vs. to Fox.

"Provide socio-economic balance" - While I appreciate this idea, I must ask whether this issue was researched, or simply stated as an abstract "ideal" for the committee to go off of. To reach this end, MANY students will be uprooted from what they know and love. If you are going to do this, the committee had better present the community with some risk vs. benefit facts. We chose this part of town because we wanted our kids to go to Fox (even though it was originally zoned for JDZ, we were told it would likely change to Fox). Had we wanted to go to a different school, we would have found a different neighborhood. In addition, the map certainly looks as though this was a main driving force for the proposed boundary map. Like I said, I have no problem with my children attending a school that happens to have a mix of social- economic backgrounds, but straining our community (money for busing) and kids (changing schools) to reach this end is not a price I'm willing to pay.

5) Cost - The committee has not shown the community the cost benefit in real dollars for the proposed changes. The community has graciously approved various levys as an investment into our children's education. If these proposed boundary changes cost more (I can only assume, but do not know for sure since I see no real numbers anywhere), I do not think this is good stewardship in light of the generosity of the community. I'd hate to wager this generosity away risking future school funding votes.

6) Community Involvement - We want to be part of our community. With the proposed changes, our neighborhood would in many ways be separated from the community we are already heavily involved in.

Did I mention Drewf's Farm has already been rezoned?

Again, thank you for taking the time to listen to parents regarding this issue.

Jonathan and Julie Eddy

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4/26/2012 13:27:29DavidMacIntyreDorothy Fox Elementary, Skyridge Middle School4/6/2012I appreciate the efforts of the CAC and everyone involved in this process, however I do not feel that the recommendation benefits the students or the community.

#1 issue is that too many kids are being affected by this change. We have a relatively small capacity issue (over at one school, under at the other). To solve this by moving over 1/3 of the middle school population should not even be considered. The recommendation of option 6 which affects 622 current middle school students needs to be reversed. We have one solution that affects 133 students (less than 10% of the middle school students) Option 2, this needs to be the recommendation.

#2 Too much emphasis was put on current enrollment. Even option 2, which has the largest number of students, does not exceed capacity at this time. Capacity in 2021 should be considered but should not be a driver for the decision. There is a huge amount of uncertainty around that number, so if we are over by 10% and the accuracy of the estimate is +/- 10%, then we should not have that number affecting our decision. The number 1 criteria should be affecting the smallest number of students, and the solution to an overage should not be to change an entire feeder school.

#3 The criteria does not consider student well being. Having a small number of students moving to a different school creates a much different dynamic than moving 1/3 of the population. It sets up a structure of the kids staying and the kids leaving. How will that play out? Think about the social impact while the change is pending. Talk about a social experiment, wow. How will the new students be received when they come into the new school?

#4 If the proposal is to go with such an high impact approach, then you should at least allow every child currently in a middle school to finish their term. It can be rolled out in a phased approach.

#5 This was positioned as a boundary restructuring. The main focus and the core part of the change is focused on feeder schools. Why? A few small boundary changes could have taken care of any of the population issues.

I feel that the data collected provided a good basis for analysis, but the conclusions that were drawn were way out of line given the criteria. Overall I would find the board to be not fulfilling their duty if they approved the existing recommendation. The Board's policy and responsibly it to be advocates on behalf of students, and work to enhance the communities vision for it's schools. The current recommendation does not have student or community support.

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4/26/2012 14:42:45LindsayGoostreeDorothy Fox Elementary1I have a current 1st grader and wil have another one in kinder next year. We live so very close to Fox and what is most disheartening is that our neighborhood is being split up. One street in the new boundaries still go to Fox and the other two streets will go to Baller. We are a new community neighborhood within th elast few years and we do a lot of activities together. I would love our kids to continue to grow up in community together at the same school as well as the same neighborhood.

Also my daughter will have one year of kinder at Fox next year and will then have to move to Baller. Are there considerations for just starting kinders next year at the school they would transition to the next year. That is a lot of movement for such little ones.

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4/26/2012 14:46:48pokhareldipeshPrune Hill Elementary3I am very concerned that our neighborhoods has been excluded from boundary from PruneHill and subsequently Skyridge middle school. This is a grave concern for our community because we moved to our neighborhood for these particular schools. It does not make sense for us to sell our houses again and move 10 houses further or look for private schools. This is going to hurt Camas community in Prune Hill.
I hope you will reconsider boundry line for Renaissance Summit and Sundance neighborhood and keep them in Prune Hill Elementry and Skyridge middle school boundries.

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4/26/2012 14:49:57AmyShannonHelen Baller Elementary2I am unhappy with the boundary change AGAIN for the Forest Home neighborhood. This will be the 3rd change for my neighborhood in the last 10 years. My daughter has walked to school almost everyday this year (a 1 mile walk), she is on the jumprope team, and attends JWR occassionally after school. We love Helen Baller and do NOT want to attend a school that is not what I would consider my neighborhood or community. I think it is extremely important to be connected to your community and the proposed schools Prune Hill/ Skyridge does not take that into consideration. Also if this neighborhood is being pulled due to its low socio-economic status then I find it even a greater disparity to displace our students and have them attend school so much farther away from our homes.

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4/26/2012 17:13:36CherylMacIntyreDorothy Fox Elementary4/6/2012I have read all of the data that was considered before "Option 6" was decided upon as the best recommendation to the board. I am wondering if any thought was put into the psychological and sociological affects this recommendation, and the way it is being implemented, would have on the student bodies of both Liberty and Skyridge.
Children at the middle school level are very peer-focused. Their friends mean everything to them, and due to this, they are very sensitive about losing friendships. Knowing that a friend is going to be leaving is enough reason for them to protect themselves from that eventual pain by distancing themselves from that friend. Since a large group of students will be leaving the middle school, this could very well create an "us and them" atmosphere within the school next year.
In the meantime, students who will be leaving (in addition to perhaps feeling ostracized) will feel as though they are only a temporary member of the school they attend. They will have less "school spirit," less motivation to participate in school activities, and less enthusiasm for school work.

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4/26/2012 17:13:37CherylMacIntyreDorothy Fox Elementary4/6/2012I have read all of the data that was considered before "Option 6" was decided upon as the best recommendation to the board. I am wondering if any thought was put into the psychological and sociological affects this recommendation, and the way it is being implemented, would have on the student bodies of both Liberty and Skyridge.
Children at the middle school level are very peer-focused. Their friends mean everything to them, and due to this, they are very sensitive about losing friendships. Knowing that a friend is going to be leaving is enough reason for them to protect themselves from that eventual pain by distancing themselves from that friend. Since a large group of students will be leaving the middle school, this could very well create an "us and them" atmosphere within the school next year.
In the meantime, students who will be leaving (in addition to perhaps feeling ostracized) will feel as though they are only a temporary member of the school they attend. They will have less "school spirit," less motivation to participate in school activities, and less enthusiasm for school work.

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4/26/2012 17:31:17CherylMacIntyreDorothy Fox Elementary, Skyridge Middle School4/6/2012(my last form submitted before I completed it)

I do not agree with the Option 6 recommendation at all. If it is decided upon however, I think that a better implementation of it needs to be explored. Allowing students to be "grandfathered" into their current middle school will allow these students, at a very sensitive time of their lives, to feel secure and thrive in their current schools. I know that a slower roll-out will create a bigger challenge for the school district, but given the recommendation of Option 6, it is the best thing that can be done for the students involved.
Thank you,
Cheryl MacIntyre

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4/26/2012 18:08:06SimonaChiesaDorothy Fox Elementary2/5/2012I don't agree with the propose of the new boundary. We live in Camas, Iris Ct. My daughter will start 6th grade in Sep.2012 at Skyridge and I don't want to move her the next year to the Liberty.
The reason is that, in our case, we live closer to the Skiridge that Liberty and there is a great number of neighbors that are in our shoes.
We understand that Liberty is bigger that Skyridge but, please keep in mind that students going to Dorothy Fox like students going to Prune Hill are closer to Skyridge.
Best regards,
Simona Chiesa

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4/26/2012 18:23:30Angela & KevinEskewPrune Hill Elementary, Skyridge Middle School4/6/2012We support Option 6 feeder plan.

Thank you for all your thoughtful consideration in this matter.

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4/26/2012 18:32:25GregGoostreeDorothy Fox Elementary1Our family has enjoyed Dorthy Fox. One of the reasons we moved to Drewfs Farm was the close proximity to the school. We enjoy the ability to walk to school or takw the bus. Our primary concern will be for our daughter (who is starting fox in the fall) making friends at fox and them switching schools the next year. It would be great if in coming kindergarten students could get an exception to go to the school they would end up at in the fall of 2013 (in our case Helen Baller).

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4/26/2012 21:10:58BrynHowellDorothy Fox Elementary4/5/2012This comment is in regards to the Drewf's Farm neighborhood. It would be nice if we could attend an elementary school as a community. The way our neighborhood is situated, there are two entrances. One street is in a walk zone, the other two streets are in a bus zone.

We have been divided into Fox (walk zone) and Helen Baller (bus zone).

I am suggesting that our entire neighborhood be re-zoned for Helen Baller.

The students from the walk zone could walk down the connecting neighborhood path up to the bus stop. It's a MUCH shorter walk to the bus stop than to Dorothy Fox Elementary.

I was at the listening post tonight (Thursday) and want to express my gratitude to the members of the committee who worked so hard on this project. You all did a very good job.

Thanks!

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4/27/2012 6:27:45AngelinaBlackDorothy Fox Elementary1We love D. Fox. Fox is very close to our neighborhood, children in Drewfs Farm have already been transferred once, and my daughter feels a part of the Fox community.

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4/27/2012 7:44:11SkyHawkSkyridge Middle School6/7/2008Although I am partial to my nest at Skyridge, I think all of our schools are great!

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4/27/2012 7:52:06TimWegenerLacamas Height Elementary3/5/2012I went to the Public Forum on 4/26 and asked several questions of why option #6 "Liberty (HB+W+DF), Skyridge (PH+GV+LH)" was selected over option #2 "Liberty (HB+W+LH), Skyridge (PH+GV+DF). There was no clear defining reason that could be provided. When the data is reviewed it appears that the benefits of #2 exceed the benefits of the #6.
Please reconsider option #2 for the following reasons: Transportation cost and time; logistics of students, parents, and teachers getting to and from school as well as also extracurricular activities; the number of students that will be effected by middle school change; long term growth; balance of middle schools enrollment and funding; neighborhood cohesion at the middle level.
Thanks for your consideration.

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4/27/2012 8:32:41SabineFellerPrune Hill Elementary4Dear Sir or Madam:

Please add the following to my written comment card:

I appreciate the efforts of the CSD to keep a socio-economic balance in our schools.

Again, thank you for your time and considerations.

Sincerely,
Sabine Feller

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4/27/2012 11:34:10MichelleCulhaneNoneNoneThanks for having this comment opportunity. I attended tuesdays meeting as well and was impressed with the openess of the board.
I am in Rennaissance Summit and we have a total of 20 kids in our neighborhood, my 3 year old was slated for Prune Hill until these changes. However in the past 6 years we have built a community on Prune Hill, friends, activities, 4th of July block parites, garage sales...everything that involves the Hill. With our efforts for community and the fact that the new subdivisions have not had these opportunites they would not be effecting our children as much as moving our few kids back to our PH/Skyridge boundry. Additionally, there are more boundry exemptions for PH/Skyridge currently than would the amount of kids who live in our neighborhood and play with the kids slated to stay at PH/Skyridge.
Also, there are no sidewalks on Astor!!! My home backs up to Astor, cars speed horribly, the deer are killed, dogs killed, it is not safe at all bc it is a hilly road again with NO SIDEWALKS. If slated to DF, we could walk or the kids could ride bikes but it is not safe at all.
Thank you for your time.
Michelle

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4/27/2012 12:22:03AngelinaBlackDorothy Fox Elementary1Drewf's Farm, under the proposed boundaries, would have to switch from Dorothy Fox to Helen Baller. Besides being considerably closer to Fox, our neighborhood has already been moved from JDZ to Fox. In a 1994 government funded study, research showed that students who switched schools even once were significantly affected socially and academically. Students who went to more than two different schools were nearly twice as likely to have to repeat a grade and were significantly more likely to have behavior issues. The fact is that we all know children thrive in familiar and consistent environments. We understand that in a growing community school boundaries will change. However, our neighborhood feels that we have already been shifted once, and a second change will unfairly disadvantage our children.

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4/27/2012 12:32:41jamiebroadbentPrune Hill Elementary1/4/2012Objective: Have the neighborhood of Thomas Estates (Cross Street- Oxford/ 24th) placed back into Prune Hill Elementary School Boundary.

In an effort to be precise I will bullet my concerns and proposal.

Capacity/Neighborhood:
-Fear our small neighborhood will get lost in the larger context of community complaints. There is power in numbers, and we don't have the numbers.
- There were two parents at the Public Hearing speaking about our concerns, not because we don't care, but because we are so small.
- We are a neighborhood that consists of approximately 8 to10 kids that will be affected by this boundary change. Three of those children will be in the fifth grade when this happens, thus only at Prune Hill for one year.
- Should we be allowed to stay in Prune Hill we will not make a huge impact on school capacity given our extremely small size. This is very different from other area neighborhoods that typically have 25 or more children.
-The new proposal indicates MARYLAND as the dividing line for Prune Hill and Grass Valley. MARYLAND and OXFORD back to each other. My house (on Oxford Street) literally backs up to the house that resides on Maryland. We should be afforded the same opportunity to attend Prune Hill as our neighbors and utilize the same transportation source used for the families residing on Maryland Street.

Future Growth and Walk Zones:
-If future growth was a determination for the proposed boundaries it should be noted a Phase 2 of Columbia Summit is being developed on Maryland Street.
- There is currently a gravel road connecting Maryland to Larkspur. The sidewalk on Larkspur can be walked directly to Klickitat which can be taken to 16th and then to Prune Hill Elementary.
-A developed roadway and sidewalk MUST go in prior to houses being developed in a subdivision. This process has already started. Furthermore, we have contacted the county and per their records they have a two year permit to have this process completed. Again, the road has already been started.
-What will happen when this process is completed and our neighborhood, .04 miles away from Prune Hill is in a walk zone, and attending another school? It is my understanding if you live in a half mile radius and there is a safe walkway you must attend that school. Will kids have to move again? Why would we make children move schools when we know the roadway/sidewalk and Phase 2 of Columbia Summit is imminent?
-It is my understanding this point was strongly looked at when determining boundaries for Woodburn Elementary. In fact, Mr. Nerland spoke to the future growth issue at the Public Hearing. It is also my understanding, undeveloped land where homes are projected to be built were given projected numbers and slotted into the population growth for student enrollment at Woodburn. The same idea should be considered here for our neighborhood. You must understand this road is in the process of being completed so phase 2 of Columbia Summit can continue.

I strongly urge you to consider these points when re-evaluating the proposed boundaries. First and foremost I ask you to place us back in the boundary of Prune Hill Elementary, or at the very least allow the neighborhood of Thomas Estates an ongoing boundary exception should the gravel road connecting Maryland to Larkspur not be completed by the 2013 school year. Again, this subdivision is being developed and a sidewalk will be issued. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,
Jamie Broadbent




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4/27/2012 12:35:10DanielleWegenerLacamas Height Elementary3/5/2012Option 2 makes most sense to me.

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4/27/2012 12:52:11AaronBlackDorothy Fox Elementary1My daughter and our family love Dorothy Fox Elementary. We are worried about the impact of our neighborhood changing elementary schools. One major reason we moved to our current home was because of Fox, its reputation and it being very close. According to the new proposal and boundary change our daughter would change schools for her third grade year, in my mind a critical year where academics and social aspects increase in intensity. Our daughter is a creature of habit and does not like change. We plan on living in our home for a very long time and we planned on keeping certain things in her life stable and unchanging such as her home and school. She is currently loving school and doing very well. When she heard she would need to change schools she was very upset. Dorothy Fox has created a community of caring and responsible kids. She often talks about the Fox 4 and many other aspects of school. Fox is her home and she loves it. Fox is also the home of many of her friends. This change could impact her education, her friendships, her attitude toward school and it would eliminate her ability to walk to school/home. Please consider keeping Drewf's Farm phases one and two in Dorothy Fox's boundary. Thank you.

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4/27/2012 14:29:20KelliSmithNoneNoneI don't currently have students in the public school system but I will next year. My neighborhood is within the walk zone of Dorothy Fox elementary school which is exactly why we moved from Portland Public to Camas Schools. We are VERY happy our son will be attending Dorothy Fox just as we planned!!

Unfortunately, the other side of my neighborhood (Drewfs Farm I and II) are barely outside the walk zone for reasons that I can only assume are because of a missing sidewalk on Fargo St that requires children to cross the street without a cross walk. Even without the sidewalk and cross walk, many Dororthy Fox families walk together to school in the morning and back home in the afternoon. This includes framilies from Drewfs Farm Division I and II walking together with Dorothy Fox families from Drewfs Farm III.

With the new boundary proposal, Drewfs Farm Division III will be walking alone while Drewfs Farm Division I and II will be bussed to a Helen Baller. This is very counter intuitive to creating a unified community. Many of our children are the same age and would greatly benefit from attending the same schools. Please consider keeping Drewfs Farm Division I (NW 27th) and Division II (NW Hill) at Dorothy Fox and including them in them walk zone.

Thank you so much for your consideration and THANK YOU for leaving our home within the school boundaries of our choice! Hopefully, my son's playmates of choice won't be bussed to an entirely different school.

Kelli Smith
810 NW 30th Street
Camas, WA 98607
(503) 793-5760

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4/27/2012 15:01:57ErinMarshallDorothy Fox Elementary5I appreciate the effort and thought the committee has put into determining the best option for the district boundary revisions. No matter how it is done, I understand there will always be people who are unhappy because change is difficult and these changes will affect many people. While I understand the need for boundary revisions and trust that all of the considerations have been discussed and weighed, I do have a concern that I really hope will be addressed in a way that is best for our children.

My son will be entering middle school this coming fall. According to the new boundary proposal, he will start one year at Skyridge and then have to move to Liberty for the next two years of middle school. While I think both middle schools are good and don’t have a strong preference for one over the other, I am very concerned about moving my son during the already very difficult middle school years. Even in the best circumstances, those years are very challenging for kids for social reasons, as well as others. My son, like many others, thrives on familiarity, comfort of knowing those around him, comfort of knowing the teachers, expectations, and even the building layout. Unlike some other kids, he does struggle with anxiety and one of the things we’ve been told that will help him is to keep his environment constant and familiar. We’ve even been told specifically not to move. So, it is concerning to me that while we’ve made the decision as a family to keep him in one place because we know it is best for him, he’s going to have to end up moving anyway because of the new boundaries and that will be out of our control.

My hope is that the committee will specifically consider kids at this age and allow them to complete their years at the middle school they begin at. I would hope there would be some way to “grandfather in” kids who have already spent a year at a particular middle school and allow them to stay there until their middle school experience is over. I understand this may require parents to provide transportation and while that isn’t ideal for me as a working mom, I would much prefer that over having him move to another school in the midst of his middle school experience.

There are many reasons why a move from Skyridge to Liberty during middle school will hurt my son, as well as other kids. First, they won’t truly “buy in” to their first year at middle school because they will know they won’t be staying there. That will really affect their sense of belonging and feeling of community that is so important at this age. Other kids may even tease them for not being able to stay there past that year. Buying school shirts, spirit items, running for leadership opportunities, getting involved in the school overall will not happen …. because they are going to be leaving. My son’s experience at Fox has been great and he’s been able to shine and get involved in his final year there because it is comfortable to him, he knows people and is known by others, and feels confident. It’s taken several years of him being at the same school for him to grow, feel confident and to feel willing to take risks. We are so pleased that he’s gotten involved in leadership and other school opportunities, and I feel that he’ll lose the confidence, and even the opportunity, to do the same in middle school if he has to move from one school to another. I was hoping he would be able to build on that new found confidence, interest in being a leader and getting involved at a school when he entered middle school (which would help him make good choices) rather than lose that opportunity and feel a sense of uncertainty and lack of belonging to one place.

With only Fox kids moving from Skyridge to Liberty at that time, there are going to be cliques in place and bonds formed with those kids who are already there that will be hard for the new kids to penetrate. The Fox kids will be a smaller new group of kids entering into these already established relationships and it will be difficult to break through those barriers and feel like they belong to the school in their final two years. Along with anxiety, my son struggles with low self-esteem and a lack of confidence. Putting him in an environment where he feels like he’s already an outsider at this difficult age is about the worst case scenario for him and will not give him the opportunity to be as successful as he could have been given a consistent middle school experience at one location where he feels he belongs and has relationships with teachers and peers.

I understand that not all students are like my son, but they all come with their own unique situations, especially at this challenging adolescent age. I urge you to take that into consideration and while I realize it is necessary to draw new boundaries, please consider these kids and their delicate emotional states at this age and give them the opportunity to shine in middle school by being able to stay at one place, become part of a school community, make friends, and feel confident and secure in knowing they will be there and can get involved. Give them a chance to LOVE and feel pride in their particular school and that will lead to success in academics, athletics and relationships with others. Of all the ages, I feel the middle school years are the most important in regard to transitions like this so PLEASE take special care when considering our middle school children.

Thank you.

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4/27/2012 15:36:45JessicaGroffDorothy Fox Elementary, Skyridge Middle School2/5/2007We live in Drewf's Farm neighborhood. We moved here in 2008 and our kids went to JDZ 2008-2009. School boundaries changed and in 2009 we were changed to Dorothy Fox. Our neighborhood is located only .53 miles from Fox. We use the bus and sometimes walk to school when the weather allows. Walking to school would not be possible if they attended Baller. Also, in the proposed boundary changes our neighborhood is split between Fox and Baller which I believe severeley reduces community connectivity. My oldest attends Skyridge and we absolutely love it and would not want to change to Liberty. I think it is important we keep our neighborhood at Fox and Skyridge.

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4/27/2012 15:37:14JessicaGroffDorothy Fox Elementary, Skyridge Middle School2/5/2007We live in Drewf's Farm neighborhood. We moved here in 2008 and our kids went to JDZ 2008-2009. School boundaries changed and in 2009 we were changed to Dorothy Fox. Our neighborhood is located only .53 miles from Fox. We use the bus and sometimes walk to school when the weather allows. Walking to school would not be possible if they attended Baller. Also, in the proposed boundary changes our neighborhood is split between Fox and Baller which I believe severeley reduces community connectivity. My oldest attends Skyridge and we absolutely love it and would not want to change to Liberty. I think it is important we keep our neighborhood at Fox and Skyridge.

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4/27/2012 16:18:00ChadStewartHelen Baller Elementary1/3/2012April 27, 2012

Boundary Review Committee:

This year’s boundary realignment process has reinforced my pride I in the Camas School District. I commend you for the leadership you have displayed during this effort, and I applaud the amount of thoughtful planning and transparency that has existed throughout the process.

Other obligations kept me from attending either of this week’s listening posts, but like many in our community I have been part of several “school boundary” discussions over the last few weeks. In my discussions with those who are well informed and who actively participate in our schools, there has been a general consensus of support and approval for the current plan. We recognize the review committee has analyzed multiple factors, and the recommendation presented to the community is one that appears to strike an excellent balance between all of these factors. I realize that the review committee may make minor “tweaks” to the current plan, but I am hopeful that no radical changes are introduced. Doing so would undermine the sound reasoning and good judgment that the current plan reflects.

I have also heard from a handful of people who are dissatisfied with the current plan; some of whom are quite emotional in their disapproval. I can understand where this emotion comes from: most Camasonians have a very strong attachment to “their school(s)”. The thought of “losing my school” is akin to losing an integral part of their community or family, and thus a strong emotional response can ensue. This fear of the unknown is a real one, and it should not be discounted. However, our community should not allow fear or emotion to take precedence over deliberate planning and careful consideration.

Over my seven years of involvement in Camas schools, I have become familiar with the staff and families at each of our schools. I thus feel confident that any family “realigned” by the current plan will soon develop the same strong attachment and sense of family with their “new school” that they have with their current one. My confidence stems from: (a) my belief that each of our schools is a great school, and (b) from my own family’s experience in changing schools three times over the last five years.
Again, thank you for the time, care and thought that you have put into this boundary realignment process. Selfless efforts like yours help make Camas a wonderful place to raise a family.

Regards,
Chad Stewart
Camas Resident



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4/27/2012 17:38:20MelissaBernerDorothy Fox Elementary1/4/20121. I fail to see how the proposed change to feeder schools will increase socioeconomic balance. There is barely a noticeable change in F/R lunches between option 2 (as it is) and option 6.
2. Within 10 years, both middle schools will be over capacity even after the proposed changes. Considering population growth is predicted to weigh heavily on the east side of Camas, busing children from west Camas to Liberty seems like a short term solution at best.
3. It seems to me that transportation costs will increase with the proposed changes. Is that true?
4. I believe test scores should be taken into account. My understanding is that Option 6 has the two lowest performing elementary schools feeding into Liberty.
5. I have heard that Mr Nerland chose not to mention that Dorothy Fox was being considered as a school that would feed into Liberty at a recent DF PTA meeting. That is his right, however, if he did inform parents at Prune Hill, allowing them time to mobilize against the idea of Prune Hill changing middle schools, then that is obviously unfair and biased. Did this, in fact, happen?
6. The boundary change that would see families living on NW 21st Ave rezoned to Helen Baller does not seem to make sense when neighborhoods closer to Crowne Park are still zoned for Dorothy Fox. I fail to understand the sense in this change.

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4/27/2012 21:15:27BeckyKienzleDorothy Fox Elementary1We have twin daughters in first grade at Dorothy Fox and we're in the Stone Ridge development, so based on the current boundary proposal would be moved to Helen Baller. However, there is a section further down the hill from us that would be bused up to Dorothy Fox, which is actually closer to Helen Baller based on the current proposal. It doesn't make sense why you would bus students from a further location up a steep hill and then bus students from another further location down a steep hill when you could just take those two sections and swap them around and leave our section at Dorothy Fox and put that section at Helen Baller. To me, and other parents in our neighborhood, that just makes more sense. Basically, you could just extend the current proposed boundary down a little further, past 24h Ave off of Fargo or to the 24th Ave area development, or down past that area as far as possible. We are located at 552 NW 24th Circle, so this is the area we are concerned about/talking about, if that helps for a reference point. Thank you for your time an efforts in all this and for your reconsideration in this.

Sincerely - Becky & Kris Kienzle

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4/28/2012 15:43:28JohnBreuerLacamas Height Elementary4
Thank you for holding the 'listening post' meetings last week. I learned a great deal of new information about the district's plant capacity and the challenges meeting future growth with our resources essentially capped until 2021.

I believe several of the reasons you offer for selecting feeder school option 6 over option 2 are logically flawed. The first reason "It creates the second lowest enrollment for Skyridge..." ignores the fact that this option also creates the greatest over load at Liberty by 2021. I think this reasoning reveals a bias in favor of Skyridge and ignores the criterion of anticipating future growth. Note that option 2 most equally balances the projected over load between our two middle schools. Hence, it is also the most logical choice when the "match enrollment with capacity" criterion is applied into the future.

Indeed, option 2 could balance that over load even more equally by shaving a small piece from the eastern side of DF and adding it to HB. (Perhaps the piece of DF that is an 'island' ie. not contiguous within the rest of the DF boundary - what is that about?)

Choosing option 6 over option 2 also obviously ignores the "minimize cumulative travel ..." criterion. I have addressed that in a separate reply which I submitted earlier. I will just add here that you state in your handout "the committee determined the three-mile difference is acceptable in consideration of the overcrowding issue at Skyridge." I asked at two different stations what if costs to drive a district bus an extra mile (hence, collectively I asked half the committee representatives in attendance) and no one knew the answer. So how could you have determined something is acceptable without even knowing what it will cost? And how could you have applied the "minimize transportation costs" criterion?

Note that option 2 also produces a slightly lower F/R% difference between the two middle school. Hence your choice is flawed based on the socio-economic criterion as well.

Your final argument - "having more capacity at both schools for boundary exceptions" is, frankly, nothing short silly. Sure you will create more spots but you will need 4 times as many spots since you are displacing 4 times as many middle schoolers by choosing option 6. What good does it do to have a few more spots available if, at the same time, you are quadrupling the demand for those spots?

Based on the criteria you have adopted, and the data you have provided, option 2 is clearly superior to option 6 even though it initially under utilizes Liberty. This initial imbalance is the correct choice to accommodate where the growth will occur in the district.

Please change your feeder school recommendation to Option 2.

Sincerely,

John Breuer

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4/28/2012 17:17:29MichelleGayNoneNoneHaving a young family we bought in Drewf's Farm specifically for Dorthy Fox. The short distance of less then a mile is ideal for grade school children and doesn't make sense to not be attending DF. Riding a bus to HB would require passing another bus of children on their way up prune hill to DF, this again lacking common sense. Please think as a neighborhood and close knit community and not as a politician, for our children's sake!

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4/28/2012 19:39:45AvrilMadduxHelen Baller Elementary, Liberty Middle School1/7/2012It was brought to my attention that the current proposal plans to enroll Woodburn Elementary School with a 32.1% free/reduced lunch program. I am outraged that this would even be considered! In your own web posting you reiterate your commitment to the benefits of socio-econonic balance. How is there balance when one school is at 9% and a new school is at 32.1%. I believe that number is more in line with the Washougal School District which has a terrible reputation. People move to Camas for the schools and there is a direct correlation in the number of free/reduced lunches and student outcomes. Property values in the immediate area will be greatly impacted in a negative manner. I would like to know how this immense disparity can be justified? Given the lower enrollment and higher needs at Woodburn how will additiohnal resources be allocated to this school? The Lookout Ridge neighborhood will be attending the hearing of May 14th in full force to oppose this proposed, grossly disproportionate allotment.
Sincerely,
Avril Maddux

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4/28/2012 20:06:29CindyHalcumbLacamas Height Elementary5I am bewildered by the proposed decision to drastically change the middle school boundaries. My children started their public education at Lacamas Elementary School in Kindergarten. My son is currently a freshman at CHS, and my daughter is in 5th grade at Lacamas. My daughter should attend Liberty Middle School for the next three years. She would like to attend without the benefit of a boundary exception. Our family has built relationships with the staff at Liberty and she is comfortable with this environment. Middle school is already a drastic change in a student’s life, and forcing her to attend Skyridge would greatly decrease her ability to excel.

I attended the focus group at Grass Valley last week, and have reviewed the answers to the frequently asked questions that have been provided by the Boundary Review Committee. I understand that the committee reports to have made its decisions based on 7 specific criteria. Unfortunately, I do not understand how each item was properly addressed. I have organized my comments based upon each criteria item below:

1. Include established walk zones in each school attendance boundary. The walk zone map only shows those students within ½ mile from each elementary school, and has not been updated with current trails and neighborhoods. Middle school students can typically walk farther than Elementary school students. There are some Lacamas students that could walk the 1+ mile to Liberty, and there are some Dorothy Fox students that could walk the 1+ mile to Skyridge. Lacamas students would have to walk 3 miles to get to Skyridge. This criterion has not been met.

2. Align middle school attendance boundaries with elementary feeder schools. Having three feeder schools for each of the middle schools is met by all scenarios studied.

3. Anticipate future growth AND 4. Match enrollment with capacity at each school. The future growth study projects enrollment to 2021. Both middle schools will be over capacity at that time pursuant to these numbers. A better question is at what point in time will both schools be over capacity? Also, what is the margin of error in the study? A comparison between the numbers of Option 2 and Option 6 indicate that the Skyridge and Liberty population will be different by 55 total students, less than 2.9% of those enrolled in middle school. How can a 9 year projection be this accurate? This drastic change is being proposed for 55 students that may or may not exist 9 years from now with what degree of error in the study?

In addition, based upon the history of growth and funding within the Camas School District, we can anticipate further required changes to occur before 2021 is reached. Why make such a significant change now that will certainly need to be changed again in the near future?

5. Provide socio‐economic balance. The National Free/Reduced Lunch Program F/R% numbers that are reported by the committee indicate that the largest disparity is found with Option 6, and yet this is the proposed option! Option 2 shows 14.4% of Skyridge and 19.8% of Liberty students will be on the lunch program in 2012, while Option 6 has 13.4% at Skyridge versus 20.4% at Liberty. The best scenario for this impartiality is Option 3, 16.3% versus 18.0%. This criterion has not been met.

6. Minimize cumulative student travel and transportation costs. This condition cannot possibly be met with the proposed change. The Lacamas students and the Dorothy Fox students will be traveling a significantly greater distance and duration. They will be crossing paths along the bus routes. A traffic engineer has not been retained to study the effects of the proposed routes, and the transportation department had not provided an estimate of the increase in costs. This criterion has not been met.

7. Consider neighborhood connectivity. The proposed change breaks up the Prune Hill neighborhood by causing one of three schools in the neighborhood to attend a school that is not on Prune Hill. While many of the Lacamas students do not live in a typical neighborhood, we have a sense of community within our rural homes that is unique and important. We all have the community of family, and it is important that younger children in the home have the opportunity to attend the same schools as their older siblings. Many of us will take the option of a boundary exception if the proposed changes are made, which will further break up the established communities. This criterion has not been met.

If the Camas School District intends to implement the proposed change, they need to provide adequate studies and proof to meet their stated criteria. To date this has not been accomplished.

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4/29/2012 10:05:45KristaGrinsteadHelen Baller Elementary1I am very upset about the inequity of the new boundaries. My daughter will be starting 1st grade at Woodburn. 32% subsidized vs. 7% at Grass Valley is UNACCEPTABLE. In the 2021; which is what the demagrapher is using for this realignment; my daughter will be getting ready to graduate from CHS. I along with MANY other PARENTS in our neighborhood- Look Out Ridge- are outraged. We moved here and pay high taxes for the Camas Schools and never thought they would make such an unfair decision! We trusted you with our children and with the new boundaries you have FAILED us.

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4/29/2012 13:55:48EllenBurtonDorothy Fox Elementary31. Thank to you the CAC for doing the hard work to create the proposal. I know this is a thankless task.
2. Milt Dennison always said it was the parents that get upset, the kids are fine with boundary changes
3. Liberty is slightly closer to my home and the remodel is excellent
4. Concerns - I need to see the evidence that Liberty is a high school prep middle school. This includes standards, curriculum, and behavioral norms. Comments from parents, whose high school-aged students attended Liberty and have other children attending there now, tell me it isn't. My questions include:
- what % of Liberty stutdents participate in pre-AP programs compared to Skyridge?
- what are the retention rates of these programs?
- how do both the application and acceptance rates to the MST program compare between Skyridge and Liberty?
Thanks for the opportunity to comment.

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4/29/2012 17:16:43jamesdeweyNoneNoneI do not currently have a child attending Camas Schools but I will in just a few years and I am concerned with the the current move by some to to push Option 2 as a panecea for the boundary changes that must tka place because of the opening of Woodburn Elementary. The concerns over the number of students that would be disrupted are somewhat overstated. We have done this before and while the change was not easy it was temporary and the effects limited to a short time. Moreover, the 133 or more that it would effect would seem to be more pronounced for them because they would likely feel more singled out.
Also, the overcrowding that would occur at Skyridge would seem to effect students more detrimentally than moving to a less crowded school. Considering my own child I am worried about the impact the overcrowding would have on my daughter's education and the ability of the district to fund expansion when Liberty may not reach overcapacity until much later than Skyridge. Really it seems like the best, but by no means perfect option, remains Option 6. In two years the students will be all settled in their new configuration and the controversy will be barely remembered. It really appears that fear of the unknown is fueling any disagreement and that does not seem to be reason enough to compromise the best option for our students and district.

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4/29/2012 17:16:47jamesdeweyNoneNoneI do not currently have a child attending Camas Schools but I will in just a few years and I am concerned with the the current move by some to to push Option 2 as a panecea for the boundary changes that must tka place because of the opening of Woodburn Elementary. The concerns over the number of students that would be disrupted are somewhat overstated. We have done this before and while the change was not easy it was temporary and the effects limited to a short time. Moreover, the 133 or more that it would effect would seem to be more pronounced for them because they would likely feel more singled out.
Also, the overcrowding that would occur at Skyridge would seem to effect students more detrimentally than moving to a less crowded school. Considering my own child I am worried about the impact the overcrowding would have on my daughter's education and the ability of the district to fund expansion when Liberty may not reach overcapacity until much later than Skyridge. Really it seems like the best, but by no means perfect option, remains Option 6. In two years the students will be all settled in their new configuration and the controversy will be barely remembered. It really appears that fear of the unknown is fueling any disagreement and that does not seem to be reason enough to compromise the best option for our students and district.

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4/29/2012 19:27:48KarenLukowiakHelen Baller Elementary1/3/2012I recall the superintendent speaking at our PTA meeting just 2 months ago about how CSD prided themselves on creating boundaries that provide a fair socio-economic balance. How is the disparity between GV and Woodburn fair? My kids will be attending Woodburn and I am very concerned. I understand the disparity is "projected" less in 2021 but we really can't guess what the percentage will be then and my kids will be long gone by then. Why not be concerned about the balance today?

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4/29/2012 20:50:14RachelStaffordDorothy Fox Elementary1My daughter is a kindergarten student at Fox, will be in 1st grade for the 2012-2013 school year. I would like my daughter to stay at Dorothy Fox because of the strong connections she has made with both the staff and other students in the neighborhood here. It is so close to our neighborhood, it doesn't make sense for her to go to another school a further distance away. Also, as an educator myself, I have watched transportation costs add financial strains, which is sure to happen when you are bussing students to schools outside of their neighborhood. There is valid research that shows correlations between school connectedness and community connectedness, and my daughter will lose some of that by leaving her community school and being bussed to a school outside of her community. Please allow her and our neighborhood to stay within the fox boundaries! We love Dorothy Fox!

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4/29/2012 20:53:53RachelStaffordDorothy Fox Elementary1I forgot to add on my last response form that I live in the Drewf's Farm neighborhood in phase 2. Sorry for the confusion, please add this information to my initial response form.

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4/29/2012 22:01:20LawrenceBuchananPrune Hill Elementary3I live in Winchester Hills, which under the new boundaries, will be excluded from Prune Hill. I disagree with this exclusion because it is the only neighborhood on the hill that is being removed. It is sad to see our community divided. Also, the distance to Prune Hill is less than a mile. In order to travel to Grass Valley my children (I have a future kindergarten student and a third grader) will have to travel along Pacific Rim Highway twice the distance. It seems that the major roadways should also help make boundary decisions and this is not the case here. I would also like to see where the walk zones correspond with the new boundaries. Is there a portion outside the walk zone that will continue to attend Prune Hill next to our neighborhood? Please consider keeping Winchester Hills within the Prune Hill boundary. Thank you, Lawrence Buchanan

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4/29/2012 22:07:49Ben ZiesemerNoneNoneI am writing in response to the proposed boundary revisions by the Boundary Review Committee. I live in the Drew’s Farm community located on NW 27th Avenue, NW Hill Street and NW 30th Avenue and my main complaints center around the changes that affect our neighborhood.

The first and foremost is that the new boundaries divide our neighborhood, sending half to Helen Baller/Liberty and half to Dorothy Fox/Skyridge. One of your own posted criteria that guided your review process was to “consider neighborhood connectivity.” Your proposed boundary revision has split our community. Our community has a Home Owner’s Association with monthly meetings, we share walking trails, we have entire community get-togethers and we view ourselves as a neighborhood that supports one another. My children enjoying playing with friends in our neighborhood, however, they will now be sent to different Elementary and Middle Schools. Please consider the neighborhood connectivity of our neighborhood. Neighborhoods and communities that function as a whole can do great things to support their school and their children.

The next issue I have is a little “greener.” We live 0.8 miles from Dorothy Fox Elementary and 2.0 miles from Helen Baller. The boundary revisions, as they are currently drawn up, have our children and our neighbor’s children passing the kids headed for Dorothy Fox as they are driven and bussed to Helen Baller. Our children can walk to Dorothy Fox but they cannot walk to Helen Baller because of a rather large elevation change and lack of sidewalk and crosswalks. Most of the parents in our neighborhood work either in East Vancouver or Portland. They drive by Dorothy Fox on their way to work. They do not drive by Helen Baller on their way to work, necessitating a diversion to drop their children off at school. All of this equates to a distinct environmental impact compared to the previous boundaries. The extra miles driven by bus and by parent to a school further away than need be progressively add up and consequently, so do the carbon emissions. Each student, multiplied by each trip to and from school, multiplied by each school year compound this small issue into a very real one. It is difficult for a school district to be “green” because of the monetary costs. In our world and in Western Washington it is an issue that needs to be considered. A LEED certified school does not come cheap and hybrid buses are outside of any realistic budget, however, with the stroke of a pen you can either choose to support a greener solution or disregard your choice’s environmental impact.

I realize that your committee is trying to reap the benefits of state subsidized bussing and manipulate free and reduced lunch numbers in your favor. But, I appreciate you taking these issues into consideration.

Sincerely,
Ben Ziesemer

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4/29/2012 22:10:08ClaudiaMuriGrass Valley Elementary, Skyridge Middle School5/7/2012We currently live withing walking distance to Grass Valley and we can see Skyridge Middle School from our home. I am hoping that the boundaries do not change so that we have to go to a non-neighborhood school. Thank you

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4/30/2012 7:24:42JulieBrownHelen Baller Elementary, Liberty Middle School3/6/2008I also have a Kindergartener at Baller.
My main concern is for the kids who are transitional kids. I have currently a 3rd grader and 6th grader who, at the time of the new school change, will be those kids who could possibly end their years at new schools. It is my wish that these kids in particularly will be granted some exception so that they may finish their years with their peers. I would be willing to transport so that this will happen. It is that important to me.
My second concern is that those families with a long time history to a certain school will be wedged out because of where they live, giving them absolutely no choice as to where to send their kids. We are not new to Camas. We have a long time history at Baller, have been an anchor to the PTA, a dedicated family who will be missed. If given the opportunity, and I do so hope we will be, would proudly drive our kids so that our K kid, who will be entering 2nd grade at the time of the change, could finish at Baller and continue on to Liberty. We are about 2 blocks from the boundary line that is going to decide our new school. I could care less about walking distance. My desire is for comfort, and yes, convenience and routine for our family. If all else fails, you can count on my boundary exception paperwork to be on the top of the pile. I understand bussing is a huge issue. Hopefully, our intent to drive our kids, will be recognized as a plus, and you have our promise.

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4/30/2012 7:33:29PhilipAstonNoneNoneI live in Drewfs Farm phase II, and bough that house specifically to be able to work my children up the road to Dorothy Fox. I understand that there is a need to change boundaries, and move boundaries from time to time. But in my mind it really doesn't make sense to split up our neighbourhood (HOA) and have my children catch a bus to school when I could walk .6 miles up to Dorothy Fox.

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4/30/2012 7:38:58AnneLukaszewiczSkyridge Middle School6I strongly oppose the current boundary change proposal. I do not believe these changes are in the best interests of the children. I believe it is ctitically important to keep the children in their neighborhood schools for their stability, sense of belonging and to continue to foster a sense of community within their neighborhoods. Moving the children will add stress to their academic and developmental progress. I believe there will be less parent volunteering involement due to these possible changes. It takes time for the students, parents and the teachers to get to know each other and their schools. I do not want to see these important relationships broken. The sacrifices of the current proposal far outweigh the benifits. Please reconsider.

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4/30/2012 8:02:10ChristinaPershing-MillerDorothy Fox Elementary2/4/2012I currently live in phase III of Drewfs Farm, which is on NW 30th. We are in the walk zone & therefore in the new boundary for Dorothy Fox. Some people in the other phase's of our development are unhappy that they are not included as well & want to make it seems as though we are "one community" just because of the name on their streets. Most of my street does not feel the same. All that we share is an HOA. Our street are completely seperate with ours being in the walk zone and there's not, no linking street between us, and no shared amenities.
If you decision ends up being to keep those streets too, then great. But we want to keep our street in the current boundary since we are .5 miles from the school and in the walk zone. Thank you!

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4/30/2012 10:02:12ScottMadduxHelen Baller Elementary, Liberty Middle School1/7/2012While it is not currently reflected by the proposed boundry map that is posted online, I understand from someone who has had direct discussions with one or more members of the Boundry Review Committee that the current plan is to disproportionately stack Woodburn Elementary with in excess of 32% of students qualifying for the Free/Reduced Price Lunch programs. This is nearly 3.5 times the number of students that Grass Valley would have in such programs, and is significantly higher than most other schools in the district. This seems completely contrary to the statements made by the Boundry Review Committee that "providing socio-economic balance is an important factor in determining attendance boundaries, and that providing such balance serves our students well." Furthmore, given that the school board boundry hearing is only 2 weeks away, it gives parents who live in this district very little time to mount a challenge to this disproportionate allocation.

As a concerned parent, I would invite you to immediately post the newly proposed boundaries so that all concerned parties can timely evaluate what is being proposed and what further steps can be taken prior to finalization of this plan to more fairly balance the schools. Furthermore, as a parent, taxpayer and voter in the district, I will not support any disparities between the schools of this magnitude.

I truly hope, considering only 14 days are left prior to the hearing, that the information I received is incorrect and somehow in error. If it is correct, I can only assume that the decision makers are somehow pursuing some hidden agenda regarding property values in certain parts of the district, and I have to ask myself not only whether such an agenda is legal, but whether it is truly fair to the children in the district.

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4/30/2012 10:41:13jamiebroadbentPrune Hill Elementary1/4/2012April 30, 2012

Camas District School Board and Boundary Committee,

I would like to express my concerns regarding our little neighborhood of Thomas Estates(approx.10 children) being overlooked and not heard. Please see the following issues:

Our Neighborhood Has Been Divided-

One of the criteria for creating boundaries was your commitment to keeping neighborhoods together. There seems to be at least one and maybe two houses in our neighborhood put in the Prune Hill Elementary Boundary and the rest of the 38 homes in our neighborhood moved into the Grass Valley Boundary. We would like to be kept as a neighborhood and stay with our Thomas Estates neighbors who were left in Prune Hill Elementary.

We Are In the Half Mile Radius Boundary of Prune Hill Elementary-

The second criteria for creating boundaries was to keep all families in a half mile radius of a school in that school. We are in the half mile radius boundary for Prune Hill Elementary, however most of our neighborhood will go to Grass Valley. We would like to be kept in Prune Hill Elementary the school in our half mile radius.

There Is A Road That Connects Our Neighborhood To Prune Hill Elementary-

There must be a safe road or trail for children to walk to school on if they are walkers. There is a road behind our neighborhood put in by Summit at Columbia Vista that is sidewalked except for about 100 feet of gravel road that connects to Larkspur St. to Klikitat, to 16thAve. This road is safe enough for joggers to jog on, and thus safe enough for people to walk on. Our children could safely walk to school from our neighborhood to Prune Hill Elementary.

Within 2 Years From Now There Will Be A Sidewalked Road That Also Connects Us To Prune Hill Elementary-

The third criteria for creating boundaries was to look at future growth and expansion. There is a 2 year permit pending for the owner of Summit at Columbia Vista to put sidewalks and utilities in. This is the development going in on the East side of Maryland adjacent to our neighborhood. This developer has the responsibility of putting in a road and sidewalk that will complete the last 100 feet of Maryland St. and directly connect our neighborhood to 16th Ave., and pave and sidewalk the gravel road that connects our neighborhood to Larkspur St. already! Therefore, anytime between now and 2 years from now (maybe even before these boundaries take effect) we should have 2 sidewalks from our neighborhood that directly connect us to Prune Hill Elementary.

Capacity-

Given the small number of children in our neighborhood we will not have a large impact on student enrollment. This is very different than other neighborhoods with many more children.

Questions we need answered:

-We are in the half mile radius boundary of Prune Hill Elementary, why are some of us being sent to Grass Valley and some left in Prune Hill, when all students in the half mile radius boundary of a school are supposed to go to that school? We should be afforded the same opportunity to attend Prune Hill as our neighbors in Thomas Estates and utilize the same transportation source that is used for the families residing on Maryland Street. How will they walk or be bused to school, and why was our neighborhood divided?

-If you have deemed Brady Rd. unsafe to walk on because there is no sidewalk, have you walked the back way though our neighborhood, from 24th Ave., over to Larkspur St. that connects to Klikitat? This is a safe path to Prune Hill Elementary.

-Have you reviewed the 2 year Road and Utilities Permit the City of Camas has with Summit at Columbia Vista that will put roads and sidewalks in that connect us to Prune Hill in the next 2 years? And, when these roads do go in will our neighborhood then be switched back to Prune Hill Elementary? Will kids have to move again? Why would we make children move schools when we know this subdivision is imminent? It is my understanding this point was strongly looked at when determining boundary's for Woodburn Elementary. In fact, you spoke to the future growth issue at the Public Hearing.

I strongly urge you to consider these points when re-evaluating the proposed boundaries. We know we are a small neighborhood, but please do not let us get lost in the larger context of community complaints!

First and foremost I ask you to place Thomas Estates back in the boundary of Prune Hill Elementary, or at the very least allow the neighborhood of Thomas Estates an ongoing boundary exception until the gravel road connecting Maryland to Larkspur gets paved. Again, this subdivision is being developed and a sidewalk will be issued within the next 2 years.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,
Jamie and Kent Broadbent

Cell: 503 819-8561

Also:

Robyn and David Hudson

Stacy and Aaron Turnage

Jodie and Ryan Toliver

Trina and Brad Bessinger




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4/30/2012 11:17:23KathrynCableNoneNonePlease don't do this. I have a child that will be attending and I do not want all the resources going to one school and short changing another.

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4/30/2012 11:35:25PeggyDeardorffDorothy Fox Elementary3I support the proposed boundaries for the elementary schools, however, I don't understand the choice in proposed Elementary schools that feed into the Middle schools. We would much rather have our children going from Dorothy Fox to Skyridge, not Liberty. Please consider re-evaluating the feeder school structure so less children would have to move and/or go further to school. Thank you.

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4/30/2012 11:52:54TracyBauerGrass Valley Elementary2Thank you to the Boundary Advisory Committee and to the Board for your hard work and commitment to our community and on behalf of ALL Camas students. Change is never easy, but it is clear that change must occur to serve the needs of our growing community/student population. While the decision of school boundary changes in understandably emotional for some families, I am confident that the decision will be made to move forward on the proposed changes and not be modified to pacify a select few.
Thank you again for all your efforts.

Regards,

Tracy Bauer

Camas Resident

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4/30/2012 11:55:40JenniferDavidsonLacamas Height Elementary, Liberty Middle School5/7/2012The proposed change would affect our current 5th grader who is at Lacamas Heights and our soon to be Kindergartener who will attend the new elementary school next year.

We purchased a house back in October of last year, specifically and purposefully looking for a house in Liberty Middle School boundaries, which it now is. It would be VERY discouraging to be forced to switch schools after making such permanent decision.

The switch in schools would cause quite a bit more driving time (my kids don't always take the bus) and even though three miles in distance, the traffic is going to be ridiculous with residents from each side of the city criss-crossing each other.

We are very adamant that it would be best for our sons to attend school with kids in the same area. Friends would be centrally located rather than spread all over the city, making transportation, social activities and school projects much easier to manage. While a few miles isn't a drastic change, it's the last thing you need when you already feel you're running around like a chicken with its head cut off.

Please reconsider making the boundaries for the middle schools far more simplified.

Thank you

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4/30/2012 13:43:21EllieHuttonLacamas Height Elementary5Today I realized that even if I were to choose to request and receive boundary exceptions for my two Lacamas kids to go to Liberty (middle school with most room for growth) they would still face a long bus commute when they are highschoolers if they have to pick up @ Skyridge. There is no way to get completely away from the long commute for Lacamas students if option 6 is chosen. That is what makes it such an unjustifiable choice for me and other parents.

Please hold another meeting to allow our community to come together to ask questions and receive answers about how the options were discussed and option 6 moved forward to be propsed. As it is, the current process only allows us to make statements and ask questions that will not be answered, before the school board votes. We want to get answers about these proposed middle school changes.

Why does this process and decision need to be done in such a short time frame? What is driving the need for a decision when the implementation of this proposal is more than a year away? Who benefits from making this decision now? The community wants to be able to be included in a positive process that gives time for dialogue and analysis to reach the best outcome for our kids and the school district's continued great reputation.

Many parents I have spoken with are unfamiliar with how the middle school and high school students from Fern Prairie are bused to their schools. We do not have good information about the process of dropping off high schoolers 1st and then middle schoolers, and doing the routes in reverse in the afternoon. I am concerned that parents may be surprised at long travel times if this information is not included in the boundary review Q&As on the website.

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4/30/2012 14:44:24AmandaZiesemerNoneNoneTo Whom It May Concern,

I am writing in response to the recent school boundary review. I live in the Drew’s Farm community located on NW 27th Avenue, NW Hill Street and NW 30th Avenue and my concerns center around the changes that affect students in our neighborhood. We would like to see our children stay at our neighborhood school Dorothy Fox Elementary.

The students in our neighborhood currently go to Dorothy Fox Elementary and the proposed change is for half of our neighborhood community to move to Helen Baller Elementary. This raises several issues that will affect the children in our neighborhood.

• My first concern is that despite being .03 of a mile outside the walk zone for Dorothy Fox, our children would be driving 1.5 miles to Helen Baller, making walking to school unlikely. In addition, while taking a bus down the hill to Helen Baller, our children will pass a bus going the opposite direction taking children up the hill to Dorothy Fox.
• Second, several of the children in our neighborhood have already made a school change in 2009 during that school boundary review. I find it unfair to ask these children to make a second school change and considerable transition.
• Third, we value our neighborhood community. Neighborhood connectivity is crucial in staying involved, forming friendships, and positive interactions. There are natural features that restrict neighborhood connectivity to Helen Baller.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

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4/30/2012 15:55:39TyLambertGrass Valley Elementary1I am happy with the proposed boundaries for Grass Valley Elementary. Thanks for your hard work. Ty

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4/30/2012 17:26:20KendraTylerLacamas Height Elementary1/4/2012so now that we got another new school and Lacamas Heights is still old what are you guys going to do our school? I heard through the grapevine that the Lacamas Heights kids will be doing One Year at WoodBurn while they renew Lacamas Heights Is this true? Or just part of the grapevine

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4/30/2012 22:57:31LIMINGFANDorothy Fox Elementary, Skyridge Middle School4/6/2012I prefer to use OPTION 2. This will be less student change and less impact to the family
Why choose option#6 which impact most student/family? This does not make sense.
Strongly suggestion to use Option#2 for school feeding option.

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5/1/2012 9:33:29Michael A. Martin-TellisLiberty Middle School7Dear Camas School Board,
My Family and neighbors are concerned about the proposed boundaries and feel there are other options available to the Camas School Board that will result in greater equity and socio-economic balance among Camas elementary schools.
It is clear that our current pace of growth is slower than in past years. With this, Woodburn Elementary may be placed in a position of early low enrollment making it difficult to allocate resources needed for a student population with high needs. We respectfully ask the School Board to redraw the proposed boundaries to more equally distribute disadvantaged students.
Having a single school begin at nearly one third of free /reduced lunch students can negatively affect the educational experience of those students and the families in that area of the district. We conducted careful observation of the local school statistics before making an offer on our home. If other informed consumers do the same the eastern and southern area of Camas SD can develop a reputation of need. We should share the load among our schools and staff. If future growth allows dictates a need to realign while maintaining equity, we would be in support of that.
Thanks for considering our input very carefully.

Michael A. Martin-Tellis
Camas High and Liberty MS Parent

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5/1/2012 13:59:53LingWenHelen Baller Elementary2/5/2012I strongly object to the current proposal that may be adopted on May 29th leaves much disparity with one school as low as 9.4% free/reduced lunch (Grass Valley) and Woodburn Elementary (our neighborhood) far exceeding all the other schools with 32.1% free/reduced lunch. We purchased two houses in Lookout Ridge neighborhood because of the reputation of Camas School District. This new proposal will break my confidence that Camas School District is taking and will take any appropriate action.

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5/1/2012 22:27:55RobertInnesNoneNoneThe initial boundary planing for Woodburn Elementary appears to fall short in terms of socio-economic equity. I recommend that revisions be made to maintain equity between elementary schools. Some areas within Woodburn's likely boundary already are seeing a regular inflow of retiree residents, and any inequities that make the the area less attractive to young families with children will accelerate the infux of retirees. The ultimate result could be the creation of a growing voting block less supportive of school levies.

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5/2/2012 11:10:54JeffreyLukowiakHelen Baller Elementary1/3/2012Dear Camas School District;

As a concerned parent and taxpayer in the Camas School District I feel its necessary for me to voice my opinion.

After reviewing the current plans for new school boundaries I am deeply confused by the selection process for the Free/Reduced Lunch disparity in the Elementary and Middle schools. As a school district it has been outright acknowledged there is a direct correlation between student outcomes and Free/Reduced lunch rate percentage. I ask this question first, how does the committee and school district accept to have a boundary where one school is placed at 9 percent and another at 32 percent?

Matter of fact several decisions are alarming. The decisions of the distribution of Elementary Schools who feed the Middle Schools is just flat out a wrong. The committee picked option 6 while option 3 is by far the most fair and accurate percentage equalization. The excuse of students traveling is just insane. The max distances isn’t even and issue since the Middle and High School Students ride the same buses and thus travel all around the city to distribute students already. Changing schools is just another strange excuse. The amount of students changing Middle Schools is a 1/3 percent each and every year because students entering and leaving each year from an Elementary School or moving on to High School. They are changing no matter what!

I and the majority of my Neighborhood of Lookout Ridge Phases 1,2 and 3 feel that Free/Reduced lunch disparity needs to be addressed as the most important issue with each and every decision the School District makes.

Our Camas school Teachers and Principals/Staff are top notch. I have no complaints from anything I have seen in any school. What I think we need to address is that the Free/Reduced children are known to cause the largest hindrance of education to children in the classrooms. It’s been acknowledged by the school district so I urge you and the board to reconsider your decisions. As volunteer parents who work weekly in the classrooms of both our children I and my wife along with our neighbors see this regularly and on a weekly basis. We do know this is a problem for the Teachers and Principle that cannot be overlooked. It is affecting my children.

The disparity is real. Grass Valley will end up with 9.4% Free/Reduced lunch and Woodburn will have 32.1%. The second highest was Helen Baller at about 24%. Clearly their socio-economic balance touted on the website was overlooked. I asked for some rationale behind this and an answer other than by 2021, they expect the levels to be about the same, based on anticipated growth. There is no way to anticipate the disparity growth , especially with our Economy as its been for the last 4 to 5 years. You have to utilize right now numbers for it. You can always adjust if it becomes just outright unbalanced in the future as acknowledged it will have to boundaries redrawn anyway prior to 2021 as you stated in your presentations to the community..

Your decisions are going to directly cause the School District to lose a large amount of tax dollars. By making Woodburn Elementary at 32 percent Free/Reduced and Hellen Baller at 24 percent you will adversely affect the property values of a high taxed group of homes in those areas. I would venture to say that 2/3 percent of Woodburn Hill will have homes that are highly taxed loose a great amount of property value and lower the Camas School District dollars. Is this even being addressed?

I routinely have 10 to 12 new families in my place of employment move into the region each and every year. These people consistently seek out where they should live and what schools to attend. I have personally brought 14 students into the Hellen Baller School Boundary and now Woodburn School area over the last three years. I continuously talk up the school and the School District. However, just yesterday a new employee to my office asked me about the new school issue with the amount of Free/Reduced Lunch disparity. I couldn't even argue with him and he is deciding to move to a location that puts him into the Grass Valley Elementary School and the Skyridge Middle School Boundary only because of the disparity of Free/Reduced Lunch based on his research. This is a shame and should be a direct indicator of the problems being caused by these new decisions.

This decision will be directly affecting the property values on the East Side of Camas. 2/3rds of the homes in the Woodburn School District are ranging from 250k to 500k dollars. If you lower them to 199k to 400k based on these decisions’ think about the revenue decrease for the School District.

I urge you to reconsider the boundaries and distribution of the Free/Reduced lunches to the Middle Schools as the highest priority.

Keep Camas Strong by committing decisions based on each and every tax payer and their child’s disruptions equally.

Here is a breakdown of the students instead of percentages.

Woodburn – 346 students total ; 110 children will be F/R Lunch
Prune Hill – 470 Students total; 80 children will be F/R Lunch
Lacamas – 337 Students total; 78 children will be F/R Lunch
Hellen Baller – 462 Students total; 113 children will be F/R Lunch
Grass Valley - 564 Students total; 53 children will be F/R Lunch
Dorothy Fox – 482 Students total; 70 children will be F/R Lunch

Liberty – 734 Students total; 183 children will be F/R Lunch (With 6th option Picked)
Skyridge – 741 Students total; 114 children will be F/R Lunch (With 6th option Picked)

One quick way to fix the disparity will be in the Middle Schools is by picking Option 3.

Liberty - 695 Students total; 152 children will be F/R Lunch (With 3rd option Picked)
Skyridge – 780 Students total; 146 children will be F/R Lunch (With 3rd option Picked)

How does the School District and Boundary Board not pick this option? Clearly the disparity of 6 children is a lot better than 69.

The only fairness to this would be having equal representation to the schools and enable the whole community to be seen as a City and School District that cares about each and every student equally.

As this outcome looks now it seems the School District is clearly picking Grass Valley as its star school and cares more about the children going to that school over the new ones.

I look forward to meeting or presenting my thoughts and opinions to anyone who has any questions. A response to these questions would be greatly appreciated.

V/R,
Concerned Parents

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5/2/2012 11:12:33KarenLukowiakHelen Baller Elementary1/3/2012Dear Camas School District;

As a concerned parent and taxpayer in the Camas School District I feel its necessary for me to voice my opinion.

After reviewing the current plans for new school boundaries I am deeply confused by the selection process for the Free/Reduced Lunch disparity in the Elementary and Middle schools. As a school district it has been outright acknowledged there is a direct correlation between student outcomes and Free/Reduced lunch rate percentage. I ask this question first, how does the committee and school district accept to have a boundary where one school is placed at 9 percent and another at 32 percent?

Matter of fact several decisions are alarming. The decisions of the distribution of Elementary Schools who feed the Middle Schools is just flat out a wrong. The committee picked option 6 while option 3 is by far the most fair and accurate percentage equalization. The excuse of students traveling is just insane. The max distances isn’t even and issue since the Middle and High School Students ride the same buses and thus travel all around the city to distribute students already. Changing schools is just another strange excuse. The amount of students changing Middle Schools is a 1/3 percent each and every year because students entering and leaving each year from an Elementary School or moving on to High School. They are changing no matter what!

I and the majority of my Neighborhood of Lookout Ridge Phases 1,2 and 3 feel that Free/Reduced lunch disparity needs to be addressed as the most important issue with each and every decision the School District makes.

Our Camas school Teachers and Principals/Staff are top notch. I have no complaints from anything I have seen in any school. What I think we need to address is that the Free/Reduced children are known to cause the largest hindrance of education to children in the classrooms. It’s been acknowledged by the school district so I urge you and the board to reconsider your decisions. As volunteer parents who work weekly in the classrooms of both our children I and my wife along with our neighbors see this regularly and on a weekly basis. We do know this is a problem for the Teachers and Principle that cannot be overlooked. It is affecting my children.

The disparity is real. Grass Valley will end up with 9.4% Free/Reduced lunch and Woodburn will have 32.1%. The second highest was Helen Baller at about 24%. Clearly their socio-economic balance touted on the website was overlooked. I asked for some rationale behind this and an answer other than by 2021, they expect the levels to be about the same, based on anticipated growth. There is no way to anticipate the disparity growth, especially with our Economy as it has been for the last 4 to 5 years. You have to utilize right now numbers for it. You can always adjust if it becomes just outright unbalanced in the future as acknowledged it will have to boundaries redrawn anyway prior to 2021 as you stated in your presentations to the community.

Your decisions are going to directly cause the School District to lose a large amount of tax dollars. By making Woodburn Elementary at 32 percent Free/Reduced and Hellen Baller at 24 percent you will adversely affect the property values of a high taxed group of homes in those areas. I would venture to say that 2/3 percent of Woodburn Hill will have homes that are highly taxed loose a great amount of property value and lower the Camas School District dollars. Is this even being addressed?

I routinely have 10 to 12 new families in my place of employment move into the region each and every year. These people consistently seek out where they should live and what schools to attend. I have personally brought 14 students into the Hellen Baller School Boundary and now Woodburn School area over the last three years. I continuously talk up the school and the School District. However, just yesterday a new employee to my office asked me about the new school issue with the amount of Free/Reduced Lunch disparity. I couldn't even argue with him and he is deciding to move to a location that puts him into the Grass Valley Elementary School and the Skyridge Middle School Boundary only because of the disparity of Free/Reduced Lunch based on his research. This is a shame and should be a direct indicator of the problems being caused by these new decisions.

This decision will be directly affecting the property values on the East Side of Camas. 2/3rds of the homes in the Woodburn School District are ranging from 250k to 500k dollars. If you lower them to 199k to 400k based on these decisions’ think about the revenue decrease for the School District.

I urge you to reconsider the boundaries and distribution of the Free/Reduced lunches to the Middle Schools as the highest priority.

Keep Camas Strong by committing decisions based on each and every tax payer and their child’s disruptions equally.

Here is a breakdown of the students instead of percentages.

Woodburn – 346 students total ; 110 children will be F/R Lunch
Prune Hill – 470 Students total; 80 children will be F/R Lunch
Lacamas – 337 Students total; 78 children will be F/R Lunch
Hellen Baller – 462 Students total; 113 children will be F/R Lunch
Grass Valley - 564 Students total; 53 children will be F/R Lunch
Dorothy Fox – 482 Students total; 70 children will be F/R Lunch

Liberty – 734 Students total; 183 children will be F/R Lunch (With 6th option Picked)
Skyridge – 741 Students total; 114 children will be F/R Lunch (With 6th option Picked)

One quick way to fix the disparity will be in the Middle Schools is by picking Option 3.

Liberty - 695 Students total; 152 children will be F/R Lunch (With 3rd option Picked)
Skyridge – 780 Students total; 146 children will be F/R Lunch (With 3rd option Picked)

How does the School District and Boundary Board not pick this option? Clearly the disparity of 6 children is a lot better than 69.

The only fairness to this would be having equal representation to the schools and enable the whole community to be seen as a City and School District that cares about each and every student equally.

As this outcome looks now it seems the School District is clearly picking Grass Valley as its star school and cares more about the children going to that school over the new ones.

I look forward to meeting or presenting my thoughts and opinions to anyone who has any questions. A response to these questions would be greatly appreciated.

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5/2/2012 11:26:23EllieHuttonLacamas Height Elementary5Question about busing: Just spoke with Linda in Transportation about concerns about bus travel to Skyridge. She offered me a wealth of information and I thank her for that. At the end of our discussion, I asked her if I were to request a boundary exception for my Lacamas kids to stay at Liberty for all middleschool years, would they be able to be transported to HS, make a bus change, and get a bus to Liberty? She said she could not answer that and suggested I submit it throught this comment process.

She had already informed me that if my kids were @ Skyridge, there is a bus that goes to the Jack, Will, Robb Ctr that kids take to get to Camas and walk downtown from there. Will that remain an option in the future?

I believe that the same growth that necessitated CSD to open a 2nd middle school which Lacamas students currently attend, is still an issue for the travel concerns many parents at Lacamas who have submitted comments. The intersection of Everett St. & Lake Rd is going to be a thorn in the transportation planning for all CSD students in middle school & high school. Has anyone at CSD posed a transportation study of this area to the State &/or City Transportation Planning Depts? Relying on the fact that once all CSD middle schoolers were bused to Skyridge in the past does not address the current and future transportation concerns.

Will you be informing the CSD community on the questions & comments that were given at the listening posts and submitted via the website? Will you be posting on the website when this information is avaialble or will you do another phone call to all district families alerting them of when this additional information is available? Please email me @ ebcbhutton@comcast.net with answers to these last questions. Thanks.

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5/2/2012 15:47:16PamFarnandHelen Baller Elementary1/3/2012My concerns are surrounding the lack of equality when it comes to the socio-economics among the elementary schools. I understand that is one of the primary objectives for the new boundary revisions, yet from what we are hearing, the numbers are incredibly skewed. I was excited to see that a new school was being built down the road from us (although we are very happy at HB), but very disappointed to hear that the F/R lunch percentage is estimated to be a staggering 32% for Woodburn. I don't believe anticipating new growth from "potential" new housing developments to help bring that percentage down, is something to hold out for. If and when that does come to fruition, that could be years down the road. In the interim, our children and housing values suffer. If the committee could look at distributing this percentage more appropriately, it would be appreciated by many of us currently zoned for Woodburn Elementary. Thank you for your consideration.

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5/2/2012 17:10:29wendycolsonLacamas Height Elementary, Liberty Middle School4/7/2012You might consider a revision that would include ALL residents on NE George Rd to be included in the Camas School District. In spite of a single outlet onto NE Stauffer Rd. Currently both camas and washougal busses stop here. It seems an economical choice to include the 8 or so residents past the little washougal in the camas district along with everyone else on NE Stauffer.

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5/2/2012 18:50:25JanelleBergstromLacamas Height Elementary3I live in the very north corner of the proposed Woodburn boundary. It appears that a bus would have to cross into the Lacamas Heights service area just to pick up the kids on our road (NE 277th Ave & NE 9th Street)... and cross paths with the Lacamas busses, one of which could simply turn down our street instead of continuing up Blair/19th Street toward 267th Avenue. Might it make more sense to have our street (NE 277th Ave & NE 9th Street) within the Lacamas boundary?

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5/2/2012 18:56:38CharlesSheppardDorothy Fox Elementary5I urge the BRC to choose option 2, which impacts the least number of children and only has a .4% difference in F/R% from option 6. Requiring over 600 children to change middle schools will cause an unnecessary amount of stress on our children, families and community. We take pride in our Camas Community, please don't disrupt when it isn't necessary.

Please keep Drewf's Farm together. Our community is connected in a multitude of ways and to split us because of 3/10 of a mile difference is unacceptable. We are located in in DF walk zone and walk 6/10 mile to school everyday, 2/10 of our walk route is without sidewalks. Please include all of Drewf's Farm in the DF walk zone.

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5/2/2012 19:09:07PegLelandSkyridge Middle School6Wouldn't this problem be greatly minimized if we abandoned the three-three feeder model? Students would attend their neighborhood grade school with boundaries appropriate for the grade school, and likewise the middle school boundaries would be devised based on appropriateness for the middle schools. It has worked for the past several years.

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5/2/2012 19:12:04JanelleBergstromLacamas Height Elementary3The links for the April 24/26 listening posts comments both bring up only the April 24th comments.

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5/2/2012 19:21:28JenSchultzNoneNoneTo Whom It May Concern:

As a homeowner in Drewf’s Farm, my hope is that our entire community will stay together at Dorothy Fox. We live in Phase III of our development, and the new proposal would send Phases I and II to Helen Baller. I am concerned that this will have the opposite effect of the criteria to Consider Neighborhood Connectivity. My two young children play with friends in families of Phases I and II, and my hope is that these children will grow together as friends in our community, and at our neighborhood school. I know that many of us were excited about the similar age-group of many children when we moved here. I feel that a division in schools will cause a division in the potential of these positive interactions within our immediate community. If a division does occur, I would still like to keep any families that we can at Dorothy Fox, our neighborhood school. Our street is in the “walk zone,” and we’d like to maintain this option for transportation. However, my support goes to Phases I and II with a sincere hope to stay together at Dorothy Fox. Please take the connectivity of our Drewf’s Farm neighborhood into consideration.

Sincerely,
Jen Schultz

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5/2/2012 19:50:18VickiTaylorGrass Valley Elementary2/3/2005I live in Lakeridge North. I researched the schools and bought here so my kids would go to GVE. Now they have transitioned nicely from Seattle and made new friends, they will be forced fo start all over again. Lakeridge North could be a walking zone, it is so close to GV. It makes no sense to disrupt this small community. The number of children moving is insignificant, from our neighborhood. You should choose an area with a higher population of children, that will really impact enrollment, and let our children stay at GV.

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5/2/2012 20:35:48Karen and JeffOlsenPrune Hill Elementary3/5/2012First, I want to thank you for the time and effort that you have put into this boundary review. I know that it is not easy and not everyone is going to be happy with the result. I do, however, want to voice my concern about the placement of our street (NW 9th Ave, on the north side of McIntosh and Freemont) into the Dorothy Fox/Liberty boundary. Currently, Jeff and I have 2 boys that attend Prune Hill, our 5th grader will start at Skyridge in the fall. With the proposal as it stands my 5th grader will go to 6th grade at Skyridge and then have to switch to Liberty in the 7th grade. My 3rd grader will have to switch to Dorothy Fox and then go to Liberty, also. When you decided that our street which is just north of McIntosh should go to DF and Liberty you are sperating our children from their community (we are connected to Deer Creek). All homes to the east, west, and south of us will remain at PH/Skyridge while our children will go to Liberty. We very intentionally bought our current home (in 2010) in the PH/Skyridge boundary to keep our children attending the same schools as their friends. My oldest boy will have to leave all of his friends at a vulnerable time (age 13) and start at a school where he would know no one. I am a 7th grade teacher and am very aware of the social challenges at this age. Life hasn't been easy for him, he is a cancer survivor, and underwent 4 years of chemotherapy. I feel this is unfair to my boy, changing schools may seem insignificant to some but for my son it is not and he has had to deal with so much already. I know that if you tried to consider everyone's story it would be hard to make any decisions but I plead with you to reconsider keeping NW 9th Ave part of the Prune Hill and Skyridge boundary. Thanks so much, Karen Olsen

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5/2/2012 20:37:46JeeShinPrune Hill Elementary1As a 1st grade mom, I hate the proposed change of school. He just adjusted himself to the new environment. I just don't understand why there is a proposal for another school boundary change within 2 years. I purchased the current house mainly because of the schools my son can attend. Who is going to repay for this? If the change is inevitable, which I don't believe, I should have a chance to choose which school my son is going to. How could we trust the administration if they make changes so often. I think the choice should be given to who are paying the property tax.
If you really consider the comments from the community, you should read all the negative comments against the proposed plan. If you keep the proposal unchaged, I think you don't listen to the community voice.

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5/2/2012 21:42:51JMLacamas Height Elementary1Parents and children ARE going to be affected. Change happens for a reason and our children have to learn that at some point in their lives. Thanks for all the hard work and thought the committee has put in to the boundary decisions. There will never be an easy answer.

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5/3/2012 8:50:13ElisaWellsSkyridge Middle School6/8/2012My concern is that the district not make special concessions for whiners, as it has done in the past. In particular, I hope that the district will not set up special programs for neighborhoods like it did for the Sunningdale Garden neighborhood when GVE opened (allowing this neighborhood the choice of attending GVE or HB and providing bus service to HB when GVE was in easy walking distance for these homes). That decision was an outrageous misuse of taxpayer money to pay for years of totally unnecessary busing and I trust will not be replicated this time around. It was particularly outrageous in that the rest of us were told "your children will adjust to the change" while the kids in that neighborhood were given special treatment (apparently they were somehow different and couldn't adjust???). It's that type of screwball decision making that pisses people off about the redistricting process.

Although my kids won't be affected by this redistricting, I am also concerned that the current top proposal moves a lot of kids to new middle schools, moves kids at FOX who are currently walking distance to Skyridge (yes, I see them walk and bike to school) to Liberty, creates a bigger FR lunch gap between middle schools in the long term plan than other options, and forces parents to drive farther for after school activity pick up. Options that move fewer students, maintain middle schools in walking/bking distance for some, reduce driving distances for parents doing afterschool pick up, and result in a smaller FR lunch disparity in the long term would seem to be better options.

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5/3/2012 10:16:10Ellie HuttonLacamas Height Elementary5I have just scrolled through the comments that the scribes wrote down at each table group for Tuesday, April 24th Listening Post Mtg. I was in a group of about 40 parents at a table w/ School Board Member Julie Rotz. I need to let you know that many, many more comments were made by parents that were not recorded, which I believed to be transcribed. It was very frustrating for me to review the few comments that were transcribed. I am hopeful that some of these parents will take the time to fill in a website comment form to have their ideas and questions included. The comments included from this table group does not well-represent the discussions, questions, or comments parents made to these table representatives. How does that allow for parents in our community to feel positive about the continuing discussions that BRC and school board members will have without all comments that were well-intentioned and well-spoken in clear terms at these meetings?

I am a person who is very supportive of CSD and public processes. I am sorry to have to bring your attention to this well-intentioned process and it's apparent flaw in this situation.

As examples, several parents identified themselves as business people and stated they could not understand froma business perspective why you would fix a 10% capacity issue between middle schools with a 40-45% fix that affects so many families, including ones that stay at their original middle school.
Another parent spoke passionately about F/R lunch rates at each school and how important those kids are within CSD, and I did not see her comment.

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5/3/2012 11:14:19KristinHermannyNoneNoneI live in The Glen development right off 196th Ave, and it appears that the boundary is being changed so that my son (3) will have to attend Grass Valley, which is about 3-4 times further away than Prune Hill Elementary, which is a short ride up Payne Road. It makes no sense to send him so much further away when we are a small development much closer to Prune Hill.

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5/3/2012 12:24:16JenSchultzNoneNoneTo Whom It May Concern:

As a homeowner in Drewf’s Farm, my hope is that our entire community will stay together at Dorothy Fox. We live in Phase III of our development, and the new proposal would send Phases I and II to Helen Baller. I am concerned that this will have the opposite effect of the criteria to Consider Neighborhood Connectivity. My two young children play with friends in families of Phases I and II, and my hope is that these children will grow together as friends in our community, and at our neighborhood school. I feel that a division in schools will cause a division in the potential of these positive interactions within our immediate community. If a division does occur, I would still like to keep any families that we can at Dorothy Fox, our neighborhood school. Our street is in the “walk zone,” and we’d like to maintain this option for transportation. However, my support goes to Phases I and II with a sincere hope to stay together at Dorothy Fox. Please take the connectivity of our Drewf’s Farm neighborhood into consideration.

Sincerely,
Jen Schultz

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5/3/2012 13:53:02JenniferFlynnPrune Hill Elementary, Skyridge Middle School5/8/2012Please don't make this more difficult than it has to be. The best interest of the children should be first and foremost. Children are creatures of habit. They thrive in familiar environments and routines. The children should be attending the closest school to their neighborhood, and neighborhoods should NOT be divided (as this splits up friendships and family support). People chose the neighborhoods they live in for a variety of reasons, one being the school their child(ren) would be attending. Who cares what the "statistics" are. We want our children close to our homes and with their long-time friends...plain and simple. Please take the "childrens'" best interests to heart in the drawing of these borders...everyone will be happy in the end, and the Camas School District will continue to receive support from the wonderful families who work so hard to make sure our kids have what they need. If you like getting bonds and levies passed, then angering the voters is not a wise idea. Thank you!

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5/3/2012 16:58:22AmyHansenLacamas Height Elementary3/5/2012April 30, 2012

To the Members of the School Board and CAC:

My child is a student at Lacamas Heights and this new proposal will impact our family. Please take the following comments, concerns and suggestions into consideration in making a final determination regarding the future elementary and middle school boundaries. Option 2 makes sense and can minimize the impact on CSD students and families.
I. A Transportation Impact Study Should Be Done to Determine the Real Effect of Implementing Option 6.
At the meeting, members of the talking posts indicated that no traffic/transportation impact study had been conducted prior to implementation of the proposed boundary changes, but that a member of transportation had been present during some of the meetings. In the absence of a transportation impact study and in light of the fact that none of the members of either the school board or the Citizens Advisory Committee live towards the outer boundaries of the Lacamas Heights district, no one had any real basis to determine that there is no negative impact on the students that live up on Livingston Mountain or toward the northwestern boundary. To accurately assess the impact on the students, it is necessary for someone to follow a school bus both to and from the different schools to the outer most reaches of the Lacamas Heights boundary. Currently many of those students already ride the bus for over an hour a day just to get to Lacamas Heights.
To discount the impact simply on the basis that it’s only a few additional miles and that Lacamas students used to be bussed to Skyridge is not appropriate. Since Liberty opened in 2006, there has been development along the transportation route that may or may not significantly impact the travel time students and families will face if Lacamas students are shifted from Liberty to Skyridge. Until someone actually drives the route, either on, or following a school bus loaded with children, there is no way to determine the actual effect. Three miles does not equate to three minutes and that needs to be remembered, especially in light of the lengthy bus ride these students already have each day.
II. The Impact of the Middle School Boundary Revision on the High School Students Needs to Be Assessed.
Although the focus of the boundary revision has been centered on elementary and middle school, this plan impacts the high school students in the Lacamas boundary. Students are picked up at the high school, transported to the middle schools and then, for the students in the Lacamas boundaries, back-tracked home. Thus, the three additional miles to Skyridge, become six for those students on their trip home each day. This significantly adds to the time that the students are spending on the bus to get home each day.
III. The Impact of the Boundary Revision on Middle School Arrival Times in the Morning Has Not Been Addressed.
This year, there were students that arrived at middle school without adequate time to visit bathrooms or lockers before the start of school. How will adding additional miles be taken into account to allow students who have been on the bus for nearly an hour to visit restrooms and lockers before school? An earlier pick up time puts students on busses in the Lacamas boundary at a significantly earlier time than other Camas school district students and needs to be taken into consideration.
IV. What Consideration Has Been Made for the Transportation Impact on Lacamas Families?
What will be the impact of that extra mileage on parents who, for one reason or another, transport their child? In inclement weather, there are often occasions where families are unable to make it to the bus route and thus transport their child to school. Six additional miles is additional miles and time that shouldn’t be discounted. A traffic impact study could better address parents’ concerns about the impact on their ability to timely get their child to and from school.
V. Focusing on Elementary Walk Zones Unintentionally Destroys Middle School Walk Zones.
Although the majority of students at Lacamas do not live within any “walk zone,” many families looked at Liberty Middle School as a place from which their children could walk to activities, sporting events and the library due to its close proximity to Camas proper. Middle school is an age where parents are more likely to allow children that freedom, especially for families that live on country roads and cannot allow their children to walk unaccompanied from the bus during elementary school. By moving students to different middle schools, that possibility is no longer an option for after-school activities. Parents of Lacamas students are relegated to trekking into town simply to transport their student from Skyridge to Camas.
VI. Any Determination on Boundaries Should Contemplate the Effect of Lacamas Students Being Moved to Woodburn on a Temporary Basis.
For the past year, discussions have taken place regarding what will happen to Lacamas Heights once Woodburn Elementary opens its doors. Because Lacamas needs some infrastructure remodeling, there remains a possibility that 4th and 5th grade Lacamas students may attend school at Woodburn Elementary at some time. In that event, what consideration has been made to determine the effect once those students go to middle school? This is a concern because Lacamas students go to Skyridge and Woodburn go to Liberty. Is there is a chance that at some time, families within the Lacamas boundary could have students in both middle schools simultaneously? In that scenario, what consideration has been given to transporting those children home, given that students are currently transported from both the high school and the middle school on one bus? If the solution presented is to make one group of students wait for transport to pick up the other, and then back-tracking up the mountain, that creates a serious impact on families given that most students currently spend well over an hour a day on the bus just transporting from Lacamas Heights. The mileage and time grow considerably under that possible scenario.
VII. Option 6 Displaces a High Number of Students for A Disproportionally Low Return
Between Option 2 and Option 6, the latter displaces a large number of students with minimal benefit to achieving the stated goal of reducing long-term overcrowding at Skyridge. In 2021, all of the options result in overcrowding at Skyridge. The difference between the enrollment in 2011 and 2021 under option 6 is 127 students. Under Option 2, the difference is 91 students. In 2021, there is only a difference of 55 students in the 2021 enrollment between Option #2 and Option #6—the capacity of one portable building. There needs to be more explanation to parents as to how displacing over 600 families for a net gain of 55 students makes sense in light of the significant negative impacts on families because of that displacement.
VIII. Option 2 Makes Sense in Light of Potential Future Development
Future development in the Camas School District is centered on the Lacamas side of Lacamas Lake. Lacamas and Woodburn have the highest potential growth over the next several years. Liberty has the ability to house that growth, whereas Skyridge is already experiencing some crowding. If Lacamas continues to grow, Skyridge will continue to be over-capacity whereas Liberty has the room to accommodate the growth of both Lacamas and Woodburn. It makes sense to send the schools with the highest growth potential to a school that can accommodate it.
I appreciate you taking these items into consideration in making a final determination on the Lacamas middle school boundaries. The impact on families in this boundary is significant and deserves some consideration beyond its low capacity. Real studies would help make lasting determinations and minimize revisiting this sensitive issue in the future as the district grows and changes.

Sincerely,

Michelle Henderson-Piche & Paul Piche
Lacamas -- 5th grader & 2012 Kindergarten

Lisa Ferber
Lacamas – 4th Grade & 5th Grade

Paul & Amy Hansen
Lacamas – 3rd & 5th Grade

Brenda & Steve Bretz
Lacamas – 5th Grader

David & Laura Bourland
CHS – Sophomore
Liberty – 6th Grade

Jennifer Cline
Lacamas – 3rd & 5th Grade

Cynthia Lam
Lacamas – Two 2nd Graders & Kindergarten

Tom and Julie Kirk
Liberty – 6th Grade
Lacamas – 2nd Grade

Mike & Natasha Derthick
Lacamas – 5th, 3rd, & 1st Grade

Matt and Lisa Tobey
CHS – Senior
CHS – Sophomore
Lacamas – 3rd & 5th Grade

Ellie & Bob Hutton
Lacamas -- Two 5th graders

Cindy Halcumb – Copy Attached with Additional Concerns
CHS Freshman
Lacamas – 5th Grade

Michelle and Steve Wobber
Lacamas – 5th Grade & 2013 Kindergarten

Debbi Lessard
Liberty – 6th Grade

Helen Lehner
Lacamas – 5th Grade + Older CSD Students

Danielle Samson
Liberty – 7th Grade
Lacamas – 5th & 1st Grade

Linda Beld
Lacamas – 5th Grade + Older CSD Students

Terri Silvis – Copy Attached w/ Additional Concerns
Lacamas– 2nd Grade

Sarah Shafer
Lacamas – 3rd & 5th Grade

Becky Engel
Lacamas – 2nd & 5th Grade

Janet Nelson – Additional Comments
CHS – 10th Grader
Liberty – 8th Grader
Lacamas – 5th Grade & 4th Grade
I. What is the impact to people traveling the Lake Rd / SR 500 / Everett area, including people commuting? The community at large is going to be impacted by the extra buses traveling through the area, and this impact should be understood.
II. This change will also impact the pick up time for high school students, if they are to share the same bus with middle school students. CSD just changed to later school hours for the high school and middle school students – how does this change and extra bus time align with the goals for the new school hours? If middle school and high school don’t share a bus, what will this mean in terms of additional buses required, the $$ impact of any additional buses, pick up and drop off times for the bus stop, and safety of the kids?

John Breuer – Additional Comments
Lacamas – 4th Grade & Older CSD Student
Thank you for holding the 'listening post' meetings last week. I learned a great deal of new information about the district's plant capacity and the challenges meeting future growth with our resources essentially capped until 2021.

I believe several of the reasons you offer for selecting feeder school option 6 over option 2 are logically flawed. The first reason "It creates the second lowest enrollment for Skyridge..." ignores the fact that this option also creates the greatest over load at Liberty by 2021. I think this reasoning reveals a bias in favor of Skyridge and ignores the criterion of anticipating future growth. Note that option 2 most equally balances the projected over load between our two middle schools. Hence, it is also the most logical choice when the "match enrollment with capacity" criterion is applied into the future.

Indeed, option 2 could balance that over load even more equally by shaving a small piece from the eastern side of DF and adding it to HB. (Perhaps the piece of DF that is an 'island' ie. not contiguous within the rest of the DF boundary - what is that about?)

Choosing option 6 over option 2 also obviously ignores the "minimize cumulative travel ..." criterion. I have addressed that in a separate reply which I submitted earlier. I will just add here that you state in your handout "the committee determined the three-mile difference is acceptable in consideration of the overcrowding issue at Skyridge." I asked at two different stations what if costs to drive a district bus an extra mile (hence, collectively I asked half the committee representatives in attendance) and no one knew the answer. So how could you have determined something is acceptable without even knowing what it will cost? And how could you have applied the "minimize transportation costs" criterion?

Note that option 2 also produces a slightly lower F/R% difference between the two middle school. Hence your choice is flawed based on the socio-economic criterion as well.

Your final argument - "having more capacity at both schools for boundary exceptions" is, frankly, nothing short of silly. Sure you will create more spots but you will need 4 times as many spots since you are displacing 4 times as many middle schoolers by choosing option 6. What good does it do to have a few more spots available if, at the same time, you are quadrupling the demand for those spots?

Based on the criteria you have adopted, and the data you have provided, option 2 is clearly superior to option 6 even though it initially under utilizes Liberty. This initial imbalance is the correct choice to accommodate where the growth will occur in the district.

Please change your feeder school recommendation to Option 2.

Jana Lanson

Karen Wood
Lacamas –Grades K and 3rd

Cynthia Frankel
CHS – 10th Grade
Liberty – 7th Grade
Lacamas – 5th Grade & 2012 Kindergartner

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5/3/2012 19:15:04WardJulieLacamas Height Elementary2We are a Lacamas Heights Elementary family that lives on Livingston Mountain. We are completely fine with the current proposal of Skyridge Middle School. Thank you to the committee members for all of their hard work!

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5/5/2012 7:17:25CraigDuffeyPrune Hill Elementary1Please take your time to reconsider the Woodburn boundaries. I politely ask the following questions:

1) Do you know how many Woodburn residents were on the CAC?
2) Given the answer to question #1, do you feel Woodburn received fair representation?
3) Why was the socio economic balance completely absent from the school website until a parent(s) complained? I believe it was finally added on Tuesday, May 1st after all the listening posts.
4) Given the website touted socio-economic balance and involved Woodburn parents believed this to be true, they did not attend the listening posts in numbers as they didn’t know there was an issue. The information was not made public until after the listening posts, and I would like to suggest that most Woodburn families are still in the dark. Do you think this is right?
5) Note the lack of participation at the listening posts from Woodburn families. One reason is listed in #4 above. The other reason is indicative of the demographics you have placed at Woodburn. Do you want one Camas School to be the under performing, low parent involvement school? In addition to families on f/r lunch, there is a large, higher income rental base in this community outside of the f/r lunch numbers. Many of these families are in transition and are not involved on the PTA etc that make schools successful.
6) Given the proposed and upcoming changes in performance based teaching evaluations, how will you attract quality instruction to Woodburn? I have already talked to many Camas teachers that are now reconsidering switching to Woodburn as they have concerns based on 1/3 of the kids have f/r lunch and studies shows there is a direct correlation to student outcomes.
7) You have a great demographer, but even he agreed that in 5 years, the demographics will not be very different at Woodburn. This is a 10 year plan and even you agree boundaries will need to be redone at that time.

You have done a great job communicating lots of statistics EXCEPT this issue of lack of socio-economic balance. In fact, I think one could argue the site has been dishonest about “socio-economic balance” based on what is currently being proposed. Many Woodburn parents feel it is too late to really be heard. Please give this careful consideration.

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5/5/2012 7:41:54CarrieDuffeyPrune Hill Elementary1Dear School Board,

I know this is an ugly process for you but I would be remiss to not bring this to your attention. I wrote earlier as I didn't believe the rumor I heard was true that Woodburn was going to have a disproportionate number of f/r lunches as the Camas School District (when I contacted them prior to buying our house in February 2012) and the Camas website insisted there would be balance. Come to find out, the rumor is right (as you already know.) The disparity is real from Grass Valley at 9.4% to Woodburn at 32.1%.

Please consider why socio economic balance has been a long standing tradition of Camas Schools. All of the children benefit from being in a diverse classroom. Quality teachers are attracted to a diverse classroom. Statistically speaking, parent involvement and student outcomes are lower in the f/r lunch population. How can you burden one school for the next generation of elementary students with 32.1% f/r lunch? The reduction in f/r lunch is essentially being moved from Grass Valley to Woodburn. I know this may decrease transportation costs but have you looked at the actual costs? After the state’s contribution, does the savings outweigh the possible negative effects for the next 5-8 years. The demographer was consistent in saying that it will be more than 5 years before these numbers dramatically change. And, what if the future isn’t as bright as we think? With our delicate economic situation, it only takes one major event, and growth is sunk.

We believe in Camas Schools but this proposal flies in the face of your past decisions and therefore gives us grave concern that the outcomes may be different that the typical Camas School outcome. The boundaries will need to be revised in 10 years anyway. Give us equity until then. We don’t want a school system with resources allocated on the “haves and have nots." Additionally, why was this information not listed on your website until this week??????????

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5/5/2012 12:09:16KathleenMartinezHelen Baller ElementaryNoneI live in Lookout Ridge and will my children will be attending Woodburn Elementary. I understand that even though my daughter loves Helen Baller. I have a problem with the rate of free/reduced lunches for that school. 34% is outrageous considering the prices of the homes in this area. Why would we need that high? The has stated and even put on their web site that they are proud of the equality of services for all schools in the district. I moved to Camas many years before I had children simply for the excellent schools. I understand this ratio has a direct affect on test scores. I am very concerned and upset about this decision. It does not take into affect what is needed now.

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5/5/2012 13:40:48MichelleBergHelen Baller Elementary, Liberty Middle School3/6/2012Our neighborhood has been targeted multiple times for boundary changes and changed once in 2010. The proposed changes and the reasons behind them to not add up for this neighborhood. The middle school change from Liberty to Skyridge does not make sense because we are so far away from Skyeridge. There are neighborhoods closer to Skyridge that are being changed to Liberty. One of your reasonings is less travel for students, well you completely dropped the ball on that. Liberty Middle School is less than a mile away and it takes and hour for my daughter to get to school riding the bus, that is why she walks. I can only imagine how long her bus ride would be going to a school that takes 10 minutes to drive straight to from our house. Your proposal summary is flawed, you list Woodburn as having 346 students enrolled in 2011 when the school is not open until 2012/2013 school year. I also do not understand why your projections are for 10 years when there has been a new school opening in the CSD every 2 to 4 years since 1996. As for a more personal objection to this change, my daughter has ADHD and Major Depressive Disorder that has had a serious impact on her education and I have been begging for years for help and co-operation from her schools. The minute she walk thru the doors at Liberty the teachers and staff have made an amazing effort on her behalf, but it has still taken most of the school year to get a program in place for her, and now you want to throw her into a new school before she's even gotten her feet firmly back under her academically. We're going to have to start all over again because the staff does not know her or what she needs. The elementary school boundaries are also messed up, you have areas closer to certain schools but you are sending them to a school farther away. Our neighborhood is in the Prune Hill boundary area when there are neighborhoods much closer going to other elementary schools. All in all your proposal is unsatisfactory!

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5/5/2012 14:00:58MichelleBergHelen Baller Elementary, Liberty Middle School3/6/2012Our neighborhood has been targeted multiple times for boundary changes and changed once in 2010. The proposed changes and the reasons behind them to not add up for this neighborhood. The middle school change from Liberty to Skyridge does not make sense because we are so far away from Skyeridge. There are neighborhoods closer to Skyridge that are being changed to Liberty. One of your reasonings is less travel for students, well you completely dropped the ball on that. Liberty Middle School is less than a mile away and it takes and hour for my daughter to get to school riding the bus, that is why she walks. I can only imagine how long her bus ride would be going to a school that takes 10 minutes to drive straight to from our house. Your proposal summary is flawed, you list Woodburn as having 346 students enrolled in 2011 when the school is not open until 2012/2013 school year. I also do not understand why your projections are for 10 years when there has been a new school opening in the CSD every 2 to 4 years since 1996. As for a more personal objection to this change, my daughter has ADHD and Major Depressive Disorder that has had a serious impact on her education and I have been begging for years for help and co-operation from her schools. The minute she walk thru the doors at Liberty the teachers and staff have made an amazing effort on her behalf, but it has still taken most of the school year to get a program in place for her, and now you want to throw her into a new school before she's even gotten her feet firmly back under her academically. We're going to have to start all over again because the staff does not know her or what she needs. The elementary school boundaries are also messed up, you have areas closer to certain schools but you are sending them to a school farther away. Our neighborhood is in the Prune Hill boundary area when there are neighborhoods much closer going to other elementary schools. All in all your proposal is unsatisfactory!

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5/6/2012 8:21:06donholmesDorothy Fox Elementary2/5/2012

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5/6/2012 21:41:15KrislynnSandryLacamas Height Elementary4I currently have students at Lacamas in the fourth grade. When Woodburn Elementary opens, we will be within the boundary for Woodburn which puts my children at Liberty. Most of the students they go to school with are in the Lacamas boundary and will be moved to Skyridge. I am disappointed with the decision to move Lacamas students to Skyridge. So many students will be displaced with the current selection by the board. I would hope a main consideration would be the number of students effected. It makes so much more sense to have Lacamas, Woodburn, and Helen Baller at Liberty and Dorothy Fox, Grass Valley, and Prune Hill at Skyridge. It makes no sense to bus the Lacamas kids further to Skyridge or bus the Dorothy Fox kids to Liberty. Just the extra fuel costs alone are a huge concern with the economy the way it is. It is a waste of money and time for parents. Please reconsider with emphasis on the impact to students and families.

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5/7/2012 7:28:41DianaRainisNoneNoneWe live on W 2nd Street in Washougal and purchased our house because it was mapped to Camas schools. We felt that we were paying more in property taxes as a result but were willing to do so as we felt it would make our home retain its value should we decide to sell. Please do not re-map the schools associated with our home.

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5/7/2012 14:52:20LynnParnellDorothy Fox Elementary1Thank you to the CAC for your time invested in this important project. What I learned in attending the first parent meeting at Grass Valley was that an inordinately large proportion of students in the district would be displaced in the plan that was originally recommended. Further, I learned that this would not ultimately solve the short-term problem of overcrowding at Skyview, which seemed to be spurring that selection.

In reviewing the elementary plan, I focused on the area that we will be moving to over the summer- NW Ivy St./Ostensen Canyon Rd. This is part of the area- currently Fox- but moved to Baller w/the proposed changes. However, there is the area at the base of the hill that was moved to Fox. The neighborhood we are moving to has 7 homes, with 2 children affected- mine (our youngest is starting Kinder next year). While I understand there is planned development for another part of the area, this existing neighborhood with larger parcels of land, is not transient. There will never be a large number of students resulting from these 7 homes. It does not make sense to me to bring students from the bottom of the hill up, and from the top of the hill down. It appears that was done strictly for socioeconomic reasons, which is interesting because Lacamas Shores feeds Baller. Again, I don't think that my children coming from the one and only existing neighborhood on Ivy are going to make a large difference in the socioeconomic makeup of either school and if that is the case, why move them?

As we know, consistency is key for children and I believe that with the static nature of the small community where we will live, my children should not be displaced from the Fox family, and that the least amount of children should be displaced district-wide. Thank you for your consideration.

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5/8/2012 16:31:32WilliamSmithNoneNoneI am a retiree living in the Lookout Ridge subdivision of Washougal. When we bought our property, one of the selling points that caught our attention was that children living in this neighborhood would attend Camas schools. We had heard that Camas school were among the best in the state if not the nation. I know that other residents of this neighborhood send there children to Camas Schools and that was why they purchased houses in this subdivision.

Our property values have taken a hit over the last couple of years due to the housing market and other factors. I would hate to see property value affected due to the redistricting and addition of Woodburn School. I am against any changes that could be construed as lowering the standards off or making Camas schools and in particular the Woodburn School appear to be low income or underachieving.

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5/8/2012 17:42:23Greg LougenPrune Hill Elementary1Why was phase seven of Deer creek changed to dorthoy fox???? This area is within 1 mi of prune hill elem which is that state walk zone?? It also qualifies for 2 criteria of school communities and walk zone?

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5/8/2012 17:48:34JohnLinHelen Baller Elementary1/4/2012After looking at the multiple changes made for other neighborhoods and voiced my concern at the meeting. I am very surprised and upset that Lacamas Shore area did not get put into Grass Valley elementary and Skyridge Middle School zones. Based on the criteria noted for boundary review it doesn't make sense that we are not part of the conversation. The excuse of saying that is where this neighborhood has always goes doesn't make sense anymore especially when there are schools closer in our immediate area.

From a distance perspective, Grass Valley and Skyridge is within walking distance of Lacamas Shore. Like many parents we'd like to have the option of not driving all the way across town to participant in a school event. One of the argument for keeping Lacamas Shores at Baller was because moving us would mean shuffling different neighborhood around to accommodate kids in our area. First, Lacamas Shores is not a high density area so its not like we'll be seeing an explosive growth in number of kids. I don't believe that argument makes sense. Second, this new boundary review is already moving various neighborhood to put them closer to the schools that the houses are located. Why not Lacamas Shores?
Grass Valley and Skyridge makes most sense in terms of distance.

It seems Lacamas Shores is being put into Baller/Liberty as an economic social experiment to help balance out the district. I don't believe my kids should go to a school with math and science scores ares significantly lower than others in the district because someone decided where I live means they need to sacrifice their education opportunities for my success.

I think Baller is a great school but if the F/R lunch ratio are going to be significantly higher then I'd like to see bigger percentage of title 1 money going to schools like Baller. They should not be evenly split between the schools in the district. With the Highly Capable testing coming up, if not all schools have the same amount of teachers educated in those special programs or can provide advancement because of lack of resources. I feel this new boundary (which is the same as old) is giving my children a real disadvantage in education.

As mentioned, this is the 4th or 5th time for boundary review. It is time to put Lacamas Shores in there for review and change.

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5/8/2012 17:57:57Yvonna SwordLiberty Middle School6/7/2012We currently live across the street from Dorothy Fox and our kids should go to Skyridge, but they have been in Helen Baller since 1st & 2nd grade and when we moved to the Skyview area two years ago we got boundary exceptions for them to be able to stay with the HB/Liberty school family. With the new proposal they will go to Liberty which we would love. Thank you.

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5/8/2012 18:27:19KylieNelsonHelen Baller Elementary, Liberty Middle School1/4/2007I am very concerned about these changes. We are on the boarder of Helen Baller and Prune Hill and my kids have already had to make this change once going from Prune Hill to Hellen Baller when the new Hellen Baller opened. I think it is unfair to ask or make these kids do it again! These years are hard enough for young kids to get adjusted and they have gotten to get adjusted and now we are going to move them yet again? Camas you really need to look at what you are doing to these kids!

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5/8/2012 20:16:08LilaChambersNoneNoneWe are in the walk zone of Dorothy Fox, in the Drewf's Farm neighborhood off of 30th Ave. A very big reason we bought this house was because of it's proximity to the Elementary School with the ability for our children to walk to school. I am very happy to see that we are still zoned for Dorothy Fox. However, our neighborhood HOA is pushing to keep us together as a community, which I would like to see but only if it means we all go to DF. Truth be told, our street has not been included in other HOA events that the other area of the neighborhood has hosted so this idea of the 'community' is only newly founded with the recent issues with the school zoning. I would rather have our street continue to attend DF than to join the other part of the neighborhood in going to Helen Baller. Thanks for your time.

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5/8/2012 21:30:30JoeSmithNoneNoneI will have a child enter kindergarten this fall at Prune Hill, but with both revised maps, they will have to go to Dorothy Fox. Like many other parents who moved to Camas for the schools, we are disappointed with a boundary change. However besides all this, I have not heard one comment about the teachers moving. If test scores are lower at Liberty, how about redistributing the teachers as well to really give the kids a better change at an equal education. I would like the CAC and the Camas School District address this. Seems like all the moving around are the families. Thank you for listening.

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5/9/2012 9:21:37JillTorresDorothy Fox Elementary, Skyridge Middle School2/8/2012To say we Extremely Disappointed in the updated map is an understatement! We live in StoneRidge off of Fargo and are less than one mile from Dorothy Fox. We are now scheduled to go to Baller. We moved here two years ago so my daughter could walk to and from school. So now what do we do? That is not an option now. Did our neighborhood not make enough noise at the listening posts? Were we not 'angry' enough? This boundary line for StoneRidge makes no logical sense.

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5/9/2012 10:37:58MichelleWagnerHelen Baller Elementary1I've only recently become aware of the timeline regarding the enrollment and boundary issues being determined for the opening of the new Woodburn Elementary School. I'd like to give input on the matter as I have some real concerns about the direction of the district's policy. In looking at the district's demographics and school border data, I was troubled after becoming aware that the student enrollment balance (as pertains to SES data) becomes much more disparate between elementary schools with the opening of Woodburn Elementary than is currently the situation. This disparity will be further accentuated as students progress to the junior high school level. This is a real issue for me where acceleration of student academic achievement is my foremost concern. Considering the demographics of the Camas School District, there are any number of opportunities to create a more diverse and balanced student population. It appears that there would be minor transportation cost consequences with the facilitation of a more balanced enrollment plan. This would be inconsequential when considering the ultimate goal of student achievement. I assume that the State Department of Education has been consulted for advice on this important matter to the Camas School District. I'm sure they have an interest in assuring all new school construction provides the most balanced student enrollment environment.


I recently examined the new school attendance boundaries for middle school accession (8/9 May), and it appears that the disparity in student economic backgrounds has only been increased. I'd appreciate a response as soon as possible so that I can consider my options.

Thanks for your time and response,

Michelle Wagner
michellewagner91@hotmail.com

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5/9/2012 11:46:22TamiGeePrune Hill Elementary3I have boys currently attending PH, we live on Hoquiam Ct, the shift on this latest boundary map to move us to Dorothy Fox is concerning. It was my understanding that a primary objective was to keep neighborhoods together, but this map now divides the Deer Creek neighborhood. I strongly urge you to re-evaluate this change and retain the integrity of this neighborhood community and continue to send all Deer Creek kids to PH. We currently have contiguous sidewalks from our home to PH to allow walking to school. There is no way to safely walk to Dorothy Fox from Deer Creek as there are no shoulders on the road or sidewalks.

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5/9/2012 13:33:42JenOchsnerNoneNoneI have an incoming kindergarten student to Prune Hill in the fall of 2012, but no students currently attending the above schools.

I've been attending the meetings regarding the boundary changes in our school district. The common theme that most parents are voicing is the desire to have their kids go to school with their neighborhood friends. We want community! I would like my kids to go to elementary school with their neighborhood friends in Deer Creek.

The Deer Creek neighborhood was kept together in the initial proposal, but it is now broken up. Please reconsider this. The kids in this subdivision (and all subdivisions) deserve to go to school with their neighbors! Additionally, the portion of the neighborhood (phase 7) selected for exclusion is just outside the walk zone. This is by far our closest elementary school and the easiest to get to in winter weather. I would be happy to extend the walk zone to include the entire subdivision of Deer Creek.

I recognize that not everyone will be happy with the boundary changes - but this is not an excuse to stop working on the boundaries before the work is finished! There is still room for improvement.

Thank you for your consideration.

Jennifer Ochsner, MD

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5/9/2012 14:03:07SloaneCopaDorothy Fox Elementary1/2/2004I live in the Stoneridege neighborhood and have been moved to Helen Baller and Liberty. My neighborhood is around the corner from Dorothy Fox where my children frequently walk to and from school. We are barely out of the walk zone and we are being sent to a school that is by no means in our neighborhood. I am disappointed with the current proposal suggested by the board for many reasons. One being that the sense of community and neighborhood that we love about Camas is being torn apart. Another being that the school where my 4th grader has attended since kindergarten, Dorothy Fox, will now continue to go to Skyridge by my son will be attending Liberty without any of his peers and school friends, with the exception of a handful of students that are included in the few streets that were cut off from Fox. Lastly, the new boundaries DO NOT MAKE SENSE. Deer Creek neighborhoods are being separated to come to Fox when Prune Hill is around the corner from them and Stoneridge and Drewf's Farm neighborhoods are being separated to go to Baller when Fox is around the corner from us. Please reconsider! I know our neighborhoods did not come out kicking and screaming and with petitions signed by hundreds of people, but that doesn't mean this decision is any less important to us. We can make noise if that is what we need to do to be heard. Please keep our neighborhoods together. Please allow our children to attend school with their peers. Please come up with a plan at is equitable. Your current proposal offers none of these options for our children.

Thank you for your consideration.

Sloane Copa

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5/9/2012 14:31:05KellyKirkbridePrune Hill Elementary2I appreciate the transparency of this process, and the response to community feedback. The switch to "option 2" for the middle schools represents the fact that the committee is being responsive to the community's concerns.

However, I think there are a few points that warrant further consideration:

1. Parents do not want their children to have to change schools - as with the middle school issue, I believe the committee needs to take a look at their options with respect to how many children will have to change elementary schools, and come up with a proposal that keeps the most children in their original school.

2. Parents want their children to go to the closest elementary school, and/or one that is safe to walk to - many of the concerns seem to focus on having to go to a new school that is not as close and/or one that is not connected with sidewalks.

3. Neighborhoods are expressing a desire to stay together as a whole.

I am concerned about the recent change that affects Deer Creek - we should not be chopping out a section of the neighborhood and sending those children to a school that they cannot safely walk to. This change does not preserve neighborhood connectivity.

Perhaps extending the walk zone to 1 mile would create more clarity with this process, as well as create some cost savings that could be redirected to address capacity and performance issues at individual schools. Please take the time to consider the community's response and do not rush this process through board approval before every option has been considered.

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5/9/2012 14:44:36KrislynnSandryLacamas Height Elementary4Thank you Boundary Committee for listening to input from parents. My family is very happy with the changes, keeping Lacamas students at Liberty, along with Woodburn and Helen Baller. This plan effects the least amount of students. It is impossible to make everyone happy, but the fewer students impacted, the better.

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5/9/2012 15:02:16SAnonymousHelen Baller Elementary3Why is it that the boundary review committee has yet to respond to or address the issues regarding the disparity in socio-economic balance between Woodburn and the remainder of the elementary schools within the district? Even the projected numbers suggest that this disparity will continue for at least the next 5 years. Why is that we are going to set up a new school to fail from the outset? I do hope that the media will make an appearance at the public hearing on the boundary reviews so that Mr. Nerland can explain the committee's unwillingness to make any changes to the boundaries that would improve balance in the district.

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5/9/2012 15:03:11JennieColeGrass Valley Elementary1/3/2005We live in Lakeridge North and have been attending Grass Valley. We are now slated to attend Helen Baller. This is a new neighborhood and most of the kids have already had to switch schools recently only to be switched again. I understand that the boundary needs to change but I am very upset to be going from a school that has very high scores (and with 9% free and reduced lunch that will come with this change, they will probably have the HIGHEST scores in the district) to a school with the lowest. I am sure that Helen Baller is a good school but it is lacking in programs and attention from the district that the other schools receive (they don't even have a track - the PTA is raising money to put one in when the rest of the schools have had tracks put in with district money). Their science scores are among the lowest, not just in our district but neighboring districts as well. If Camas School District is forcing this change then I want the same benefits that we had at our last school. I recommend that not just our students endure the upheaval of this shake-up but the teachers as well, putting the best teachers in the schools that need the most help raising scores. If you insist on this socio-economic disparity than those schools should be privileged with the BEST that the district has to offer. As a parent I am willing to do my part to help in the schools but I absolutely DEMAND that the distict do the same and support Baller and Woodburn instead of making those two elementary schools their scape-goats. The difference between 9% and 32% is ridiculous!

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5/9/2012 15:07:39VivianJurasPrune Hill Elementary3/5/2012Although we appreciate the time and effort put into this process by the district, school board, committee, we are shocked by change #1 in the latest revision, especially since we were not affected in the first round of changes. We, like many parents who put their children's education at the top of their priority list, purchased our home here in Deer Creek SPECIFICALLY for Prune Hill Elementary and Skyridge Middle School. IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE that this little section of the Deer Creek neighborhood will now go to Dorothy Fox while most of their current classmates and friends stay at Prune Hill. You are breaking us away from our community and it's not right. This will also have a negative impact on property values in the affected area.

We have recently returned home from an overseas assignment where my son attended a local school for Kindergarten and an international school for G1 & 2. This change means he will have to change schools again in G5 after 2 years at Prune Hill where he has been really happy. This will be his 4th school in 6 years, before even entering middle school. Just too much!

I look out my kitchen window and see the school buses pull in and out of Prune Hill, and kids playing at recess... We don not want change. Please reconsider!

Vivian Juras

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5/9/2012 15:08:51PeterSimpsonPrune Hill Elementary1/3/2012Very disappointed and angry in the boundary change for Prune Hill. You have divided an established neighborhood in half, thus dividing a tight knit community of families whose children go to school together, play together, participate in sports together, and families who have been committed to the school and helping each other.

The Deer Creek neighborhood SHOULD NOT be split along Klickitat Street. Move the boundary to the outer edge of the neighborhood and keep all the kids in the same school, which is what was originally conveyed to parents.

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5/9/2012 15:35:56TammyOwenPrune Hill Elementary2/4/2012Thank you, Boundary Committee Members for your dedication and hard work!

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5/9/2012 15:39:22XXXXxxxxDorothy Fox Elementary4First of all, I wish to thank the BRC for all of their hard work. It would appear what started out as a straight forward task has suddenly been blow up beyond arduous!! When we moved to Camas 14 years ago, we did so "for the excellent schools". That is correct, I said SCHOOLS plural. I feel that we are blessed with some of the best educators in the state at ALL of our Elementary and Middle Schools. As for sense of community, is not our City a community?
While our neighborhood would remain at Fox, IF opt 6 were to be selected our daughter would be attending Liberty, which is new for us--our eldest went to Skyridge. I look at the change as a new opportunity to explore. I would much rather go back to opt 6 as it wont cost our District approximately $300, 000 per portable, if we go with the current option.
A majority of people seem concerned with "Socioeconomic Balance" at our schools with the current option, but in the next sentence they discuss wanting to keep their child at a certain school because they moved to Camas "for that particular school". What? Isn't that also affecting socioeconomic balance? How can we say only certain neighborhoods should be allowed at certain schools, and then shun others? And aren't all Middle Schools feeders for Camas High, where OMG ALL neighborhoods are blended together?

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5/9/2012 15:47:14JeffLukowiakHelen Baller Elementary1/3/2012I just received the email for the change for feeder elementary to middle schools and I am more perplexed than ever before.

I didn't quite understand the #6 choice by the CAC but I am more perplexed now that option #2 is being chosen. Rumor has it a lawyer was hired by one community to fight for this change. Is this true? Does each neighborhood need to hire its own lawyers to draw fair and equal boundary lines for their school? I'd surely hate to see that publically in the local paper. It doesn't sound like a fair process when legal issues are addressed during a review committee process.

The feeder schools are important and I understand the need to make everyone happy. But most of the concerns I read in the forum feedback are about distance they live from a school and/or friends of the children and/or the convenience for the parents in distance to one school over another.

What I am not hearing from any of the parents on the west side of town is their concern for the east side of Camas Schools. The new feeder option just produced a further disparity of the Free and Reduced Lunch (F/R) Students. Option 2 doesn't make me feel good at all. Skyridge is going to be approximately 832 (15.9% F/R) children to Liberty at 643 (25.8% F/R).

WOW isn't Liberty the bigger school that can hold more children? Why redraw more boundaries to fit more children into Skyridge which is at capacity.

Why isn't option 3 being chosen? This option has the best balance of children and the best balance of F/R disparity. The kids going into Middle Schools are changing usually at a high percentage. Each year the schools are always 1/3 new.

All of the students at all of these schools will eventually go to the same high school together anyway and every parent is going to travel to it no matter what the distance they live.

So please consider all Camas Schools equally...............

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5/9/2012 16:26:42FelixLeeGrass Valley ElementaryNoneThank you to the BRC for their hard efforts. Having been involved in various leadership roles over the years and in my current occupation, it is very difficult to balance what is best for the group as a whole versus individual desires. That stated, I believe it is the prudent thing to change to the Option 2 middle school feeder model. I also, for the most part, agree with the current(revised) elementary school boundary proposal. At some point, it is impractical to try and optimally balance the socio-economic balance in our schools, as Camas (East and West, Hill/Lacamas Lake and downtown area) seems to be economically divided in those areas in rather dramatic fashion. For example, it would be impractical and counterintuitive to "correct" the F/R lunch rate at Woodburn by sending kids who live near Washougal to Grass Valley or by sending kids who live in the Grand Ridge neighborhood to Woodburn. At some point, we need to be practical and realistic. There will always be a disparity between the schools vis-a-vis F/R lunch rates due to the economic disparity between the areas of Camas proper.

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5/9/2012 16:30:37VivianJurasPrune Hill Elementary3/5/2012Re: "A majority of people seem concerned with "Socioeconomic Balance" at our schools with the current option, but in the next sentence they discuss wanting to keep their child at a certain school because they moved to Camas "for that particular school". "

you clearly have not been to the meetings and clearly don't know what you are talking about. the so called socio-economic balance is one of the criteria used by the district/state, not something a majority of people are concerned about. if you were at any of the meetings, you would know that majority people DO NOT WANT ANY CHANGES, their kids are happy where they are, period. to be more clear, the district or state wants to balance out the free/reduced lunch ratioes in all schools to make them more equal. many parents have questioned how this criterion really comes in to play in the whole boundary review process, and what data is available to support the use of such a criterion, and no answers or clarifications have been presented to us. and if you are surprised by the fact that many people buy houses largely based on school boundaries, feel free to talk to any realtor in the area. people with school age kids choose to live within boundaries of good schools. yes we are blessed that camas is such a wonderful district overall, but - sorry to break it to ya - not all schools are equal, otherwise they wouldn't have to bother with "socio-economic balance" to begin with!

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5/9/2012 16:48:12KimberleyNusbaumNoneNoneWe recently purchased in Lacamas Shores, and have a young son who will start kindergarten soon. As the boundaries are currently set, he'll have to pass Grass Valley AND Dorothy Fox to get to Helen Baller. This makes not sense at all. Instead of being able to walk to school on nice days, he'll be bussed two and a half times further across town. I'd like to see the Boundary Review Committee put more emphasis on neighborhood connectivity and minimization of travel. I appreciate that other factors must be considered, but the numerous negative consequences of sending children to school so far from home must also be given serious consideration.

Thank you.

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5/9/2012 16:59:17XXXXxxxxDorothy Fox Elementary4Re:"...if all our schools were equal, then socioeconomic balance wouldn't need be a concern to begin with..."
I am the one stating a majority of people keep bringing this up. You are correct, I haven't gone to the meetings. BUT reading the posts and listening to people discuss this topic in the community, and being a tax payer I feel I have the right to my opinion. And to further clarify that opinion, I feel Socioeconomic balance is a very dicey area, and I feel that you are not informed as to why the district uses this as a means to balance schools. What I don't want to see happen, as I have already stated, is that individuals in our community will begin to believe that certain schools are "better" because there are fewer F/R students. Just because a student's socioeconomic level is low does not imply they are less intelligent.

I moved to Camas for ALL the schools. I knew in so doing that the community as a whole would grow, and there was a very large possibility we would have to move schools someday. Anyone who believes differently is sadly mistaken.

What I find shocking is that few people realize that not everyone is going to be happy with the boundary changes. And that if you are unhappy it does not give anyone the right to be mean or rude...

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5/9/2012 17:48:06ScottMadduxHelen Baller Elementary, Liberty Middle School1/6/2012Re: Socioeconomic balance

Obviously there are lot of opinions on here about whether socioeconomic balance matters and whether it should matter. There is a large body of literature available on the web, much of which has been published by university and government researchers, that empirically suggests that it matters. Even the committee appears to acknowledge that it matters, by both the statement on the website and the fact that the committe publishes the F/R lunch data with every revision to the boudaries.

Why is it that the decision has been made to create one school that is so disparate from every other elementary school in the district. We are not talking about a percentage point or two - we are talking about nearly double in one school vs. all of the others. How is that balanced? Contrary to what one poster suggests is driving most of the unhappiness at the meetings, this isn't about my child having to attend a different school, it is solely about my child having the educational opportunities that were available when we moved into the district.

If there really is a drive in the district to retain an attorney to pursue legal action, I hope that someone posts that information - either here or in the local newspaper.

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5/9/2012 17:49:55Kristen and Jay MurrayPrune Hill Elementary2We are very upset and concerned by the most recent changes to the boundaries, specifically the one that affects the Deer Creek neighborhood. We have two children that attend and will attend Prune Hill next year, a second grader and one entering Kindergarten.
. We want our children to continue attending Prune Hill. The changes will affect our neighborhood. We want our neighborhood community to stay together as a whole. The changes will also cut off my children from most of their friends which will be very difficult and upsetting to them.
We want our children to go to the closest elementary school, and/or one that is safe to walk to, since there are quite a large number of children who do walk in our neighborhood - Dorothy Fox is definitely not within a safe walking distance.
We would support extending the walk zone to 1 mile if that would create more clarity with this process. Please take the time to consider the community's response and do not rush this process through board approval before every option has been considered.
Thank you for your consideration.

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5/9/2012 20:30:40BryceGehlenPrune Hill Elementary1The proposed breaking up of Deer Creek phase 7 is concerning. We have been in our home since early 2005. Deer Creek and Prune Hill Elementary was a large reason for my wife and I to move to Camas. We have formed many relationships with friends in other phases of Deer Creek and had looked forward to having our children attend the same elementary school. About 2 years ago my mother-in-law was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and as a result we moved my sister-in-law to Deer Creek phase 3 from Salem to be closer as a family. She and her husband have 2 children who will be attending Prune Hill starting in a couple of years and as a result of this proposed boundary change our kids will not be able to attend the same school together. What is really concerning is we are closer to the school than they are. We are .87 miles from the school and I can see the school in plain sight out my back door. Please re-consider breaking up the Deer Creek community. Thank you for your time.

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5/9/2012 21:15:15MichaelGIlbertNoneNoneDefinitely a difficult task, so much appreciation for the hard work and effort. That being the case, I thought that one of the main goals of the committee was to keep neighborhoods together. I live in the Deer Creek neighborhood. It appears that the newest proposal splits this neighborhood in half, which is contrary to my idea of a "neighborhood." How could students 200 yards away from each other go to separate schools? Granted, a line has to be drawn somewhere, but I urge you to reconsider and change the boundaries so that the entire neighborhood may go to the same school. It seems strange to me that 200 yards down the street, my neighbors will be going to a separate school. It interferes unnecessarily with bonds that we have been building for the past 5 years.

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5/9/2012 21:32:15MichelleWobberLacamas Height Elementary5Our family appreciates the decision of the board to consider the community response and change the middle school feeder schools from option #6 to #2. Thank you for listening and choosing an option that disrupts significantly less families. Thanks for the time you have put in and will continue to put in.

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5/9/2012 22:21:36JMLacamas Height Elementary1This is getting out of hand. Why can't people understand change? Just go to the school you get assigned and be done with it. Does anyone believe in a higher being? Maybe me child is SUPPOSED to switch schools. It may not be the way we planned it and it may not be the school I moved here for but it is still Camas schools and I am so thankful to live in this community. However, I am not proud of the mess that people are making of this.

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5/9/2012 23:07:07RyanBjornsgardDorothy Fox Elementary, Skyridge Middle School6Kids are now in 6th and K-Appreciate all the work/effort that has been done by committee but very disappointed in the outcome........

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5/10/2012 7:50:31JohnBreuerLacamas Height Elementary4Thank you for changing your feeder school recommendation to option #2. This option produces a more optimal result on several of the decision criteria you have set forth. Thank you for listening!

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5/10/2012 12:07:17BruceJoostePrune Hill Elementary5Why suddenly the change from Plan A? Why have we not been given the same time to contemplate this possible change as other parents already affected have? We are suddenly told of the change on Tuesday at 5:30 p.m. and now, less than a week away from our input, we are sprung with this change? What gives here? My home is 4/10ths of a mile outside the walk zone. It is ironic that most of the kids in Prune Hill Phase 7 walk to school, even in the rain. There are sidewalks for safety too by the way. You are now proposing to have kids bussed to Dorothy Fox! Wait!! Dorothy Fox has no bus transport! Whats wrong with this committee? If approved, the state has to provide a bus with gas at close to $4.00 a gallon. How is this saving money? Also, how is it that the 50 homes in Phase 7 are now separated from the rest of our homeowner community? Friends, family and relatives who live across the street from each other have to be separated. Has this been thought through?

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5/10/2012 14:51:50Jeff & JoannaMansurPrune Hill Elementary4We were saddened to see the latest proposed boundaries which will move our daughter and students living on our street, NW 9th Ave, east of Klickitat from Prune Hill to Dorothy Fox in two years. We do not wish to be moved from Prune Hill Elementary and the rest of our Deer Creek neighborhood for numerous reasons, and none of them have anything to do with not wanting to go to Dorothy Fox in particular. We have heard nothing but good things about Dorothy Fox.
First, our son is a fourth grader and in the last five years we have developed close relationships with not only the people right next door to us but many families throughout the entire Deer Creek neighborhood. We made all these friends through Prune Hill Elementary as we didn’t know anyone before we moved here. We are an active and involved family at Prune Hill, volunteering regularly as well as serving as Vice President on the Prune Hill PTA Board. It would be difficult for us to be separated from our Prune Hill "family".
Second, we are close to Prune Hill. Two years ago when the district instituted the half mile walk zone we found we were just outside of the walk zone and still had bus service. Our bus stop was at the corner of NW 9th Ave and Klickitat at the traffic circle. This year the transportation division moved our bus stop up the hill to the corner of Hoquiam Ct.as there were complaints to the district from our neighbors on the west side of the traffic circle that argued they didn't see why their walking students couldn't just catch the bus at our stop since it was so close. To put an end to the complaints and requests they took our bus stop away and made us walk up the hill to be picked up and dropped off. We are so close to the walk zone that they took our stop away so as not to frustrate others in the walk zone watching our kids near to them getting on and off the bus at our nearest corner.
Additionally, many of the children living on NW 9th, Hoquiam and Goldendale choose to walk down NW 9th Ave to Prune Hill in nice weather. This, in my opinion, is a very healthy option for these kids. There have been numerous times when our families as well as others on our street have walked to school for an all school event as there is not ample parking at the school for all of the Prune Hill’s families. This will not be an option for us if we are moved to Dorothy Fox. We are just about .6 miles from Prune Hill. If the district has to make transportation cuts and open up the walk zone to a mile, then will our kids be changed back to Prune Hill after we've been moved to Dorothy Fox? We don't want to see our daughter moved multiple times.
Lastly, we don't want to be moved to another school and feel alienated from the rest of our neighborhood. We will obviously have different events and schedules if we are moved to Dorothy Fox. It is difficult for children to cope with inequality and having our Phase Seven children have to hear about but not be able to participate in the Prune Hill activities that our friends and neighbors will be participating in will be tough. I don’t look forward to having to console my daughter and rationalize things when she feels left out. It won’t be very fun for us as grownups to feel “outside” from inside our own neighborhood either. We are very much a part of the Deer Creek neighborhood and would like to stay with the rest of the neighborhood at Prune Hill Elementary.
To the dedicated School Board members and volunteers on the Boundary Committee, we realize you have an extremely difficult task at hand and we appreciate all the hours of work and consideration that have gone into making these new school boundaries. I am sure you have manipulated the maps numerous ways to make the numbers "work". We are asking for you to please take another look the current proposal and try to find a way to keep Deer Creek Phase Seven with the rest of our Deer Creek neighborhood.
We would truly appreciate if you could find a way to keep us within Prune Hill's boundaries and with our neighbors. If it is decided that we must move, we will go into Dorothy Fox with smiles on our faces knowing it is a great school and we are doing what we need to do for the greater good of the district. We will get involved and be a positive, supportive "Fox" family just as we are at Prune Hill. However, we ultimately would like to stay at the school closest to our home. Thank you for your time and consideration.
Sincerely,
Jeff and JoLynn Mansur
Josh - 4th Grade
Anna - Kindergarten

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5/10/2012 16:13:28EmilyGillespieHelen Baller Elementary1/3/2012We live in the Forest Glenn subdivision near the far north tip of the Lacamas Shores neighborhood. We are in Helen Baller’s boundary. However, we live closer to 3 other Camas elementary schools. Our distance and travel time is triple to Baller than Grass Valley Elementary. My front door is .6 of a mile from Skyridge, yet I reside in Liberty’s boundary. Many people in my neighborhood live .4 of a mile from Grass Valley. Grass Valley's bus drives through Lacamas Shores and passes by my kitchen window every morning to pick up children a block away. All adjoining and surrounding neighborhoods attend Grass Valley and Skyridge--except for us.

The current boundary proposal has three big negatives for us. First, we already have to travel triple the distance to Baller/Liberty vs. Grass Valley/Skyridge. Second, all surrounding neighborhoods have been pulled out of Baller and now will be attending Grass Valley and Skyridge. Therefore, we won't have a "sense of community" and the advantages of having a network of friends and families that live close by. Third, Baller will now have vastly higher socio-economic indicators than the three other schools that are closest to us.

Although the few kids (only 35) in our neighborhood are being used to socio-economically balance Baller and we have to travel triple the distance, the schools in our district will be completely out of balance. Baller is at 27% vs. Grass Valley 9% and Liberty is at 26% vs. Skyridge 16%. The elementary and middle schools we live 1/2 mile from have vastly different numbers then the schools we are bused to. Unfortunately, data shows that free/reduced numbers effect test scores. That is why I am concerned with the numbers.

As long as the district believes in providing socio-economic balance, the district needs to fairly implement and fully commit to their philosophy across the entire district.

I know this doesn't seem like a big deal to the rest of the community because this isn't effecting their own kids. I just ask that the board and the committee put themselves in our shoes for a moment to see how inequitable the boundary proposal is to our neighborhood. Thank you

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5/10/2012 21:49:03MichaelMosesHelen Baller ElementaryNoneI live in the Lacamas Shores neighborhood and I am very concerned about the upcoming boundary decisions. There needs to be equality when it comes to all the school boundaries. My neighbor wrote a letter and brought up these points:

The current boundary proposal unfairly and inconsistently applies the boundary criteria outlined in the district's Boundary Presentation on the district website. The following criteria were not adequately followed regarding my neighborhood:
--Include walk areas in each school attendance boundary: Prune Hill and Dorothy Fox's walk zone incorporates areas that are uphill, one mile away from the school, and cross busy intersections. Yet, our neighborhood that is 1/2 mile from Skyridge or 1/2 mile from Grass Valley is not in the walk zone.
--Consider neighborhood connectivity. The neighborhoods next to us are attending other schools. Because we go to Helen Baller, many of my child's friends live a distance from us. What happened to neighborhood schools?
-- Provide socio-economic balance: My neighborhood is one of the very few neighborhoods in the district attempting to provide that balance. In fact, the boundary proposal is outrageously out of balance. This negatively impacts our kids and puts an extra burden on teachers at Baller and Liberty.
Minimize cumulative student travel and transportation costs: The criteria includes "minimizing transportation costs", yet Grass Valley's bus passes through our neighborhood

Unfortunately, the only reason we attend Baller is because of the district’s philosophy of providing socio-economic balance based on poverty indicators. Despite the district’s philosophy to balance needs, Helen Baller’s poverty indicators are not only the highest in the district, but also increasing while the four other elementary school’s indicators are decreasing or staying the same. One could argue, by looking at the poverty indicators for 2013 that are used by the district, Helen Baller is three times more challenged than Grass Valley! Baller’s test scores verify this theory. They are the lowest in the district.

Children in our neighborhood are bussed to a more challenged school. The negative impact the school boundaries have on our children does not stop after elementary school. The bussing continues through middle school. Although our children can walk to and from school and extracurricular activities from Skyridge, they are riding the bus to Liberty and requiring parent transportation to and from other activities. We are the only neighborhood in our area that attends Liberty. All the surrounding neighborhoods attend Skyridge. This is a bad attempt to socio-economically balance our school.

The proposed boundary change that is currently being discussed by the boundary committee and school board is the worst case scenario for our neighborhood. We are not only bussed away from our neighborhood schools, but we are bussed to schools with higher needs and lower test scores. This will also directly effect our property values. We are the only neighborhood in the district that is bussed to a worse situation then we would otherwise have at the schools we live 1/2 mile from.

As long as the district believes in providing socio-economic balance, the district needs to fairly implement and fully commit to their philosophy across the entire district. The district needs to be willing to change all necessary boundaries to fulfill this objective or don't do it at all.

We are seeking fairness and equality among all schools. Thank you for your consideration.

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5/11/2012 8:55:28ChrisJurasPrune Hill Elementary3/5/2012I am interested to understand the federal and state funding for programs such as Title 1 and Learning Assistance Program based on Free/Reduced Price Lunch percentage. How much funding are we talking about between a school with 9% F/R Lunch and a school at 30%? If someone can explain, please post. Also, do you think Free/Reduced Lunch data should be kept confidential to school personnel and not available to the public? Thanks.

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5/11/2012 11:54:58TaraSGrass Valley Elementary1/3/2012I have children at Grass Valley who will continue at Grass Valley. I have a child in the title 1 reading program. I am curious how funding for Title 1, etc are determined. Will having such a low F/R % effect their funding? I don't want to see the school losing funding for programs such as this because of their low F/R numbers. I prefer to see this more equally balanced amongst the schools.

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5/11/2012 16:49:40WanliMaPrune Hill Elementary1It is very hard for young kids to change and adopt to a new environment, start making new friends etc, especially for students who is shy or has a inward personality. I strongly recommend that for students currently enrolled in Prune hill elementary be given the opportunity for finishing their elementary school there and not forced to move or go through extra paper work just for staying in Prune hill elementary. It would be heart breaking for the young kids to tell them they will be separated from their dear friends. I know from my own experience that it took a long time for a kid to adjust to a new environment and even longer time to make new friends. Some life long friendship starts from elementary and it takes year to nurture. Since the kids have already enrolled in Prune hill, please let them finish there.

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5/11/2012 22:11:11HsunjungLiangNone4All Deer Creek Neighborhood shouldn't be split up by school boundary. The kids who live in Deer Creek phase7 will be separated from remainder kids who study in Prune Hill elementary school.

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5/12/2012 7:59:39DaveGreenPrune Hill Elementary, Skyridge Middle School7First of all, thank you for your efforts to make this a fair and transparent process. I realize there is no single decision that would please all of the stakeholders and families impacted by the changes. This is clearly a significant challenge and we appreciate all of your hard work.

I have a daughter at Skyridge and a daughter in Kindergarten at Prune Hill. With the recent updates to the boundaries my Kindergartner will need to change schools and attend Dorthy Fox. I have no concerns with Dorthy Fox, and believe I can help my daughter adjust to the change.

At the same time, as I review how the boundary lines have been drawn with the recent updates I am dissappointed with what it means to our family and our neighborhood. In addition, in our case the lines seem contrary to several of the principles outlined that were intended to guide this process.

I carefully reviewed the comments posted on the web site. Another parent articulated 3 points that directly align with my feedback, so I've actually copied them below. these principles resonated with me, and seem to apply to many of the families concerned with the recent changes.

1. Parents do not want their children to have to change schools - as with the middle school issue, I believe the committee needs to take a look at their options with respect to how many children will have to change elementary schools, and come up with a proposal that keeps the most children in their original school.

2. Parents want their children to go to the closest elementary school, and/or one that is safe to walk to - many of the concerns seem to focus on having to go to a new school that is not as close and/or one that is not connected with sidewalks.

3. Neighborhoods are expressing a desire to stay together as a whole.

In our case, this change splits our neighborhood in half, as well as forces us to attend an elementary school that we could never walk to. We're literally within sight of our local elementary and it is a short, safe walk to this school.

Again, I know there is no single boundary line that will please everyone. However, I think what many families are concerned about is the 'arbitrary appearance' of some of the decisions that have been made.

Thanks again for all your hard work. Regardless of the final decision made we will continue to support the Camas School district and believe it is a tremendous resource for our community.

Thank you,
Dave Green
Deer Creek Neighborhood

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5/12/2012 8:54:29JennieColeGrass Valley Elementary1/3/2005I understand that as the boundaries change that students will be disrupted and that all of us may not fit into our "neighborhood" school. I realize the line has to be drawn somewhere. No child/ children are more or less deserving of having to change schools...but the thing that I feel (and many others, judging by the comments on this board)that the board needs to focus on is the disparity between F/R lunch. For this there is a simple solution - the kids that are bussed into Grass Valley now from East Camas should continue to be bussed. These children are already attending Grass Valley and so they would not have to be disrupted and it would ease the burden on the new Woodburn school, reducing their F/R lunch numbers. As the situation now stands Lacamas Shores is the only neighborhood being bussed for socio-economic reasons and this does not seem fair.

I also have a question about the recent back-tracking on the feeder schools. As I understood it the schools had to be changed to accommodate the number of students since all would not fit into Skyridge. Now that DF has been switched back to Skyridge, how are the students going to be accommodated? How will it be paid for? It does not seem fair to ask the rest of the district to pay the bill for portables or an expansion when there is room at Liberty just because we don't want to disrupt the students...especially when so many other students are going to be disrupted in this change.

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5/12/2012 9:05:55JenOchsnerNoneNoneI think I have a potential win-win solution for quite a few kids:

Why not have the kids at the bottom of Forest Home Road that are slated for Prune Hill instead go to Dorothy Fox? The kids in the Deer Creek Phase 7 and surrounding area slated for Dorothy Fox could instead go to Prune Hill.

It seems that the kids at the end of Forest Home home road have been sent to Prune Hill for S/E balancing. The problem with that is that these kids have to take a very long bus ride every day, I'm assuming on SR 14. On the new boundary summary data (rev 2) table, Dorothy Fox is 11.6% F/R% and Prune Hill is 18.1% If these kids went to Fox, they could take a much shorter bus ride up Forest Home. The Deer Creek Phase 7 and adjacent area kids would walk or take a shorter bus ride to Prune Hill. The F/R ratios would probably be the same, but flip for Prune Hill and Dorothy Fox. Many more kids could stay in the same elementary school that they are already attending. The entire Deer Creek neighborhood would not be split up. Parents and kids would be happier. And all of these kid are going to Skyridge, so the middle school is not really a factor.

I think this is a great solution. Hoping someone on the school board agrees!



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5/12/2012 9:46:00PeterSimpsonPrune Hill Elementary1/3/2012I am writing to express my concern and disappointment with the latest recommendations made by the Boundary Review Committee (BRC) with respect to Prune Hill Elementary School.

In 2002, I built a house in the Deer Creek neighborhood in large part due to the very close proximity to Prune Hill Elementary School and the future ability for my children to walk to school. I quickly became connected with many of the families in the Deer Creek neighborhood and continue to have strong connections to them.

My children, Kevin (9) and Molly (6), both attend Prune Hill Elementary along with nearly every other child in our neighborhood community. They have very strong connections with teachers and staff at Prune Hill, not to mention all their friends that live in the neighborhood.

The BRC’s recommendations to split the Deer Creek neighborhood will shatter those things for my children and this community.

When I was notified last week of the final revised map of boundary changes, I was shocked and angered to see that my section of the neighborhood, my community, was being arbitrarily cut out of Prune Hill Elementary and that the BRC was recommending that our children attend Dorothy Fox Elementary. Children living literally across the street will remain in the Prune Hill cluster.

This recommendation defies logic and common sense in every way possible. The Deer Creek neighborhood is a cohesive, close-knit community with involved owners and Home Owners Association (HOA).

Our children have grown up together, attended school together, played sports together, and the parents in this community are active in with the Prune Hill PTA and school events. This community has a strong attachment to our neighborhood school.

Camas School District Board Policy 3130 is “…2. Maintaining established neighborhood groupings.” The BRC’s recommendation ignores this explicit policy of maintaining the neighborhood grouping and unfairly removes a portion of the neighborhood from our neighborhood school, Prune Hill Elementary.

The portion of the Deer Creek neighborhood that is being rezoned to Dorothy Fox is less than ¾ of a mile from Prune Hill Elementary, which is defined as the “walk area” for elementary schools established by RCW 28A.160.160(5). Moving a boundary to force children to attend a school farther away from their neighborhood makes no sense and appears to violate Washington State Law.

Currently, my children can (and often do) walk to school in the morning. My moving a boundary line to force them to attend Dorothy Fox makes walking impossible. There are no sidewalks leading to Dorothy Fox Elementary from our neighborhood.

Finally, the proposed dividing line running along NW Klickitat, splitting up the Deer Creek neighborhood, destroys the principal of a neighborhood and community. Neighborhood schools are the centerpiece of great communities and the BRC’s recommendation to divide the Deer Creek neighborhood is without logic, common sense, or excuse.

I respect that these decisions are difficult and it is not possible to make everyone happy. Sometimes though, the best decision is to leave things the way they are rather than change something just to change it.

I do not support the dividing my community and I strongly urge you to keep the Deer Creek neighborhood intact at Prune Hill Elementary.

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5/12/2012 21:13:59HuiJurasPrune Hill Elementary3/5/2012As far as middle schools are concerned, Option #2 is the winner as simp,y because it affects the last amount of children. So thank you for taking parents' comments seriously and restructuring the feeder schools!

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5/12/2012 21:13:59HuiJurasPrune Hill Elementary3/5/2012As far as middle schools are concerned, Option #2 is the winner as simp,y because it affects the last amount of children. So thank you for taking parents' comments seriously and restructuring the feeder schools!

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5/13/2012 8:46:31RongLiuPrune Hill Elementary1It doesn't make sense to move deer creek phase 7 students to a different school from PruneHill elementary. I bought the house at the beginning so my kids can go to PHE.

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5/13/2012 9:39:43StephenGrinsteadNoneNoneMy daughter will be enrolling in kindergarden at Hellen Baller this upcoming Fall. I am concerned with the disparity in subsidized lunches between the Camas schools beginning in 2013 when my daughter will be attending Woodburn. This is concerning for both my daughter's education as well as my home value. The subsidized lunch program needs to draw the school's boundary lines to reflect an equal distribution. This needs to be done NOW and not in 10-12 years.

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5/13/2012 20:37:29KellyKirkbridePrune Hill Elementary2The recently posted FAQ document cites the publication "Rescuing Brown v. Board of Education: Profiles of Twelve School Districts Pursuing Socioeconomic School Integration." After reviewing that document, I understand why the Camas school administrators believe that socioeconomic balancing is a promising strategy for achieving success across the district. However, I also feel that several key points from this research have been missed with regard to the recent attempts to re-draw school boundaries.

First of all, the document’s introduction compares schools that are high-poverty, vs. low-poverty, or more/less than 50%. It speaks of the fact that poverty-level students can succeed in schools where there is a "critical mass" of middle-income students (more than 50%). We are fortunate enough to reside in a school district with less than 20% low income students overall, compared to the state's average of 43%. Given this fact, I feel that these attempts to "balance" our elementary schools that are currently well below 25% will not result in substantial changes to overall performance.

Second, the document points out several key strategies for success when implementing SES balancing across a district:
"…system-wide goals are more effective in producing achievement results and racial integration than more modest goals. While Wake County has had success with its district-wide 40 percent cap on low-income students, some districts with more passive programs have been far less successful."

"…The board’s assignment guidelines also sought to minimize travel distances, make efficient use of school facilities, and maintain stability in assignment." (This was referring to the successful program at Wake County school district)

If administrators are going to cite research to support their goals of a socioeconomically balanced district, then they also need to use the best practices that have been proven by said research. I feel that the current strategy (at least in appearance) is more haphazard, and lacking in system-wide goals, which is why many residents are unhappy with the proposed school boundary changes. The current proposal also leaves us with a rather large disparity, and a less-balanced district than what we currently have. Arguing that things will balance out over 10 years is not acceptable.

In following with the proven successful strategies, I would like to suggest a move back towards a neighborhood (proximity) based model for determining school boundaries, and setting a cap of perhaps 25% low income (or F/R lunch eligible) for each elementary school. Once the neighborhood-based maps are drawn out, any schools that are over 25% low income can have some adjustments made to the boundaries in order to get them below the cap. A well-stated policy that is clear to the community would be much more publicly acceptable than what has happened thus far.

Overall, I applaud the BRC for their efforts, given the task at hand. I feel that the BRC was given too many conflicting criteria to consider, especially when none of them were said to be more important than the other. I hope that the school board can clarify their priorities for our district - whether it be neighborhood schools or SES-balanced schools - and assist the BRC in creating a boundary map that clearly meets those priorities.

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5/14/2012 0:22:22ChrisRubanoHelen Baller Elementary1Is the citizens advisory committee(cac) well balanced for impartial representation?
A bit surprised an independent evaluator/team wasn't utilized for such a critical and charged topic/process. Comment to that?
Very concerned about the inconsistences of the process and the likely consequences that will ensue.
I believe it's the committee's/board's responsibility to justify/explain two current issues before moving forward for approval.
1. socioeconomic imbalance (between schools).
2. The impressive academic gap between the schools. The testing at my daughter's school is standard deviations below that of the others.

I have no problem with balance within our school and community; but when the sole reason for my daughter attending Helen baller is based exclusively on "socioeconomic balance", bypassing all of your other criteria then I believe we need to reexamine the fundamentals.

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5/14/2012 11:13:22JeffLukowiakHelen Baller Elementary1/3/2012We are never going to make everyone happy or this wouldn't be an issue that needs a forum that updates every 5 minutes.

I was wondering if the school district and the advisory council know what locations and what children represent the F/R lunch program? If this is known, which I am sure it is since they put percentages on the handouts, why aren’t they being shown in the boundary drawings? Let’s identify the areas to find the best solution as a whole. Once this is shown why not just split those areas up and bus those children to separate schools.

Data shows that Social-Economic balanced schools have a better percentage of test scores for the District as a whole. We as a Community would actually be giving a better education for the children who represent the F/R lunch program by placing them equally throughout the 6 elementary schools. If the elementary schools were balanced the kids in a whole would score better, be better educated and lessen the concern of what middle school is fed by what elementary schools.

Let’s say there are 6 areas of Camas School District that represent the F/R lunch children and where they live. Why not split those areas up to 6 sections and bus those children to 6 different elementary schools? By the data posted its approximately 500 children on the F/R lunch program in the elementary schools. Try putting 83 kids in each school and the problem will be solved. Not only does it benefit the Teachers and the schools, it gives those children the diversification of Social Economic Balance and thus they will receive a better education for it. I understand we cannot get the numbers exact but it can be a lot closer than it is right now.

We are playing social class warfare right now in the school boundaries and it’s just going to get uglier as we go along. Let’s show our leadership in Washington DC that we aren’t going to be like them and actually accomplish something that benefits us as a whole. This Social-Economic game is ridiculous, look at the children and think of them, stop thinking of our own needs and let’s look at the needs to fairly distribute the schools so the School District as a whole will benefit. This will greatly help the test scores in Middle School and the High School by doing the Social-Economic Balance in the elementary schools. Eventually with only one High School the balance is just eliminated. Let’s not have what we have now. I have heard kids refer to one school as the “Rich Kids go there.”

What you can determine from this forum is that no one has been in favor of having one or two schools with an extremely high Social Economic number at least no one has openly said they are in favor of it. I venture to say tons of Grass Valley families would be extremely motivated for balance if the entire F/R Lunch students were all placed in Grass Valley. Maybe we should, they do have very good test scores. Maybe we can help out those out who need the best education.

Do we really want to have one school at 9 percent and another at 32 percent? Then the decision to have the three (3) highest F/R lunch schools feed one middle school and the three (3) lowest feed the other is just absolutely wrong. Let’s stop worrying about bus distances the town isn’t very big; educating our children to be the best leaders and providers in the future is our top priority.

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5/14/2012 14:03:02RuthAdlerDorothy Fox Elementary1I dont agree with that. Some of the house in phase 1 and 2 are 0.5 miles to the school. It will be nice to check it. We dont want to change school!
"Drewf’s Farm: The southeastern portion of Drewf’s Farm is outside of the Dorothy Fox walk zone. While a path connects the “walk zone Drewf’s Farm” from the “bus zone Drewf’s Farm,” utilizing the path does not meet the State’s definition of a safe walk route for students. Due to the westward shift of the Helen Baller attendance boundary, this neighborhood is a good fit for Helen Baller enrollment."

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5/14/2012 14:03:15RuthAdlerDorothy Fox Elementary1I dont agree with that. Some of the house in phase 1 and 2 are 0.5 miles to the school. It will be nice to check it. We dont want to change school!
"Drewf’s Farm: The southeastern portion of Drewf’s Farm is outside of the Dorothy Fox walk zone. While a path connects the “walk zone Drewf’s Farm” from the “bus zone Drewf’s Farm,” utilizing the path does not meet the State’s definition of a safe walk route for students. Due to the westward shift of the Helen Baller attendance boundary, this neighborhood is a good fit for Helen Baller enrollment."

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5/14/2012 14:30:54stacyyem-tanPrune Hill Elementary1/4/2012children forced to relocate because of the proposed revised elementary school boundary limitation will cause depression and anxiety leading them to perform poorly in school, miss out on important social experiences and engage in substance abuse. Anxiety and depression are the common pyschiatric-illness affecting children and adults. Also in conclusion when my children learned that they might have to be forced to attend Dorothy Fox they began to cry because they stated " The commitee is robbing us away from our friends, teachers, and the school they love." Besides Dorothy Fox has no safe route for any of the children to walk to school leading to child obesity. We would like the committee to strongly reconsider the investment for the future for all the children living in phase 7 Deer Creek. In closing the children are the ones who will face the consequences and suffering. I strongly believe that the children deserve the right to continue to attend the school that they love. Thank you in advance.

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5/14/2012 17:09:50NancyChalfantGrass Valley ElementaryNoneI have two children, four years old, who will start attending kindergarten in Sept. 2013. We recently moved here expecting them to attend Dorothy Fox which is less than a mile away. The proposed boundary revision takes them instead to Helen Baller, almost four miles away, and also puts them into a distant middle school. Our children have made friends in our neighborhood. We are against moving them out of the neighborhood we chose to raise them in, and disrupting their lives for many years. We prefer that they go to schools in our neighborhood with their friends. The availability of bus service does not concern us; our childrens' social well-being and happiness do.

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5/14/2012 17:34:35CarrenWalkerPrune Hill Elementary4Appreciating the hard and thoughtful work of the committee, I want to take a moment to articulate a concern. Elementary schools offer our young citizens an opportunity to see themselves as a member of a greater community. We live in Deer Creek phase VII. We can see Prune Hill Elementary from our home. We can walk through the Deer Creek neighborhood on safe sidewalks to Prune Hill School. We enjoy seeing schoolmates at our local park, Klickitat Park. We hope that you can reconsider the exclusion of Phase 7 Deer Creek from Prune Hill. We see this home as part of that school, a school we walk to, a school we can see from our home, and the school that our neighborhood attends. Prune Hill School is a part of this Neighborhood.

Thank you for your thoughtful reconsideration,

Carren Walker

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5/15/2012 16:42:05DawnHuntPrune Hill Elementary, Skyridge Middle School4/7/2012I was really glad to see that you brought Forest Home Park area back to Prunehill and Skyridge. We appreciate all of your hard work!

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5/15/2012 21:15:04CarrieGregsonPrune Hill Elementary3/5/2012

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5/15/2012 22:16:17amyhigdonNoneNoneHello,

I attended the previous meeting in April and was unable to attend yesterdays meeting. I live in Drewf's Farm and would very much like to keep my kids going to Dorothy Fox. I think Helen Baller is an excellent school. I did however purchace my home at 2804 NW Hill St. for my kids to go to Dorothy Fox. I think all the schools in Camas are fantastic. I just want to be able to walk my kids to school which is currently .53 miles to Dorothy Fox. Our community is small and very family oriented. We spend all holidays together and would like our kids to go to school together. I grew up being able to walk to school for all three stages. I want the same for my kids. I think you will see an unfortunate trend happen if kids are getting bused all over. People will put homes up for sale to get into these walk zone and it will hurt property values as well. I know you all are working so hard on this issue and my kids won't start school until next year. I have twins who will start August 2013 and a 1 year old as well.

Thank you for your consideration.

Travis and Amy Higdon

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5/15/2012 22:28:34CathyBradfieldHelen Baller Elementary3Although I hate the thought of my daughter leaving Helen Baller, I completely understand the complexity of integrating data on volume of students, feeder schools, socio-economic segmentations, etc. but would ask that the percentage of students being "displaced" will determine the percentage of teachers that should be "displaced" to another school so that all students have the same level of change in familiar teachers as the school will have in the level of change in students.

I also believe that the equalization being done relative to student characteristics needs to be applied to the teachers based on number of years experience, number of issues with parent/teacher conflicts, etc. so that the new school doesn't have all new teachers, with potentially less experience and definitely less "Camas" experience compare to the other schools.

If these factors will not be considered, I would appreciate either a direct response or an indirect response via subsequent letters/notification/findings/etc. indicating that they will not be considered and why. I realize this may be too much to ask and accept whatever outcome you choose.

Thank you.

Catherine.L.Bradfield@gmail.com

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5/15/2012 23:38:49LindaBeldLacamas Height Elementary, Liberty Middle School5/8/2012I was unable to attend the meeting and so were several others from Livingston Mountain because of a track Meet. I do know I represent 20 families nearby and stopped because of the reversal to send Lacamas students back to Liberty. I request the board continue down that path. As many families would rather pull their kids for homelink or homeschool rather than send them the distant to Skyridge, We personally bought our house 4 years ago based on the schools. Liberty is closer and makes more sense travel wise for our children.

I also know that a majority of families and homeowners without kids will support us in blocking anymore funding in the future for the schools on Levy"s and Bonds if the kids are moved to Skyridge. It makes no sense for our kids to be on buses that long. I will personally place my middle school student in another school and drive her. We are a community up here and our kids do better at Liberty.

I ask that the Lacamas Height kids remain at Liberty. Thank You, I can provide a petition at your request with the families I represent and can and will get more signatures from others if need be. We have the support of at least 90% of the homeowners that live on Livingston Mountain with kids, without and future kids. Please keep this in mind when deciding what is best. Socio-economics only places kids in a situation where they do not fit in. It is not short changing anyone's education and who knows why someone qualifies for free lunches. It could be a number of reasons. In the now economy someone receiving free lunch now things may change in a few months. And special education and test scores are not based on low income. I know rich kids who test poorly as they have more access to distractions than a poor family. Some of the comments are based on I am better than my neighbor that is sad. We are no better than the weakest link on this mountain and we support them and are friends regardless of income.

Again our kids needs to remain at Liberty or a battle will pursue come the next Levy passing or Bond Passing as most the kids that would be moved are the youngest in their families and will be done with school in 2019.

Thank You for reading this. If my mom was not killed in January 2012 I would have volunteered to represent us on the committee.

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5/16/2012 0:07:25Cindy SextonSkyridge Middle School6Please reconsider carving out Lacamas View from the areas feeding into Skyridge. My daughter has attended school with the same group of kids for 6 years. With the current proposal (option 2) she would attend Liberty for only one year. Our kids are participating in programs like choir and sports and will have whatever progress they've made wiped away by starting over at a new school for just one year. The last proposal at least sent all of DF to Liberty. Carving out our little neighborhood is making the kids feel punished and singled out. Please reconsider and put Lacamas View back in DF.

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5/16/2012 7:36:26ErinMarshallDorothy Fox Elementary5I know there are a lot of concerns and negative feedback but I wanted to let you know how much I appreciate the BRC's latest recommendation. For our family, that means our son will be able to begin and end his middle school experience at the same place. For so many reasons, we are relieved and happy about this decision. I was very concerned about the repercussions of moving a student from one school to another at that age. Now I feel excited and hopeful about his middle school experience and am also thrilled that he will be able to go to a school he can walk to and that many of his friends from other schools that he's met through sports will also go to that school - broadening his circle of friends. Fox families are happy that we've been heard and are glad to remain part of our neighborhood middle school. Thank you for listening to us and valuing our concerns. In the end, it's what is best for our kids and I feel the last recommendation is what is truly best for the majority of kids.

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5/16/2012 9:08:51JennieColeGrass Valley Elementary1/3/2005I attended Mondays meeting but there were a few things that were said after I had a chance to speak that I would like to address.

- I currently live less than a mile from the school as the crow flies and my kids are on a bus for a half an hour each way while the kids who are bussed from East Camas to Grass Valley are on the bus for significantly less time even though they are further away. Bussing should not be used as an excuse not to socio-economically balance the schools. Camas is not that big!

- A statement was made that we all want the same thing: neighborhood schools. That isn't true. Many of us realize that not everyone will fit into the school that they consider their "neighborhood" school. Grass Valley in particular is a well placed school that could encompass way more students than it has capacity for (why this was not considered when it was being built is a mystery to me.) Neighborhood schools and socio-economic diversity do not go together and we cannot have both...the board needs to decide what goal trumps which...because there are people on both sides of the divide.

- The idea that all Camas schools are equal and that F/R lunch numbers don't matter seems to be coming from the neighborhoods and schools that are the least effected by them.

- ALL of us who will be changing schools have children who are DEVASTATED! Changing schools is not what any of us want for ourselves or our children. Just because we didn't buy our home within a block of the school does not mean that we are any less invested in the school community. The impact of this change is far reaching to EVERYONE and it shouldn't just be a few fringe neighborhoods who bear the brunt. They are the ones who have been changed back and forth in the past and will likely be changed in the future if this boundary change is not done correctly.

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5/16/2012 14:05:24Amber GlassmirePrune Hill Elementary1/4/2012Dear Boundary Committee,

Firstly, I would like to thank the committee for their work on this issue. I know this must be such a hard task. Every family in Camas is affected by these changes in some way. Thank you for your efforts to help relieve some of the over crowding that we face in Camas schools.

My concern is with the boundary change handed down last week that affects 9th Avenue in Deer Creek. These kids have now been switched and will go to Fox. This is part of our neighborhood, and we would like this to be reconsidered by the committee. Deer Creek is full of kids, and one of the reasons we selected this neighborhood was because of all the kids and how special it was that they all go to the same school, could ride their bikes to each other's houses and meet up at Klickitat Park. As families we became a community and found support from each other thru our kids. Then as they grew up we became part of a bigger community in Prune Hill & Camas schools. So many families walk together to school functions at Prune Hill, there are also numerous carpools in this neighborhood. If this boundary is approved there will be a natural division in the neighborhood as some of the kids & families will be going to Fox. Please reconsider, and let Deer Creek stay as a unit. We understand and fully accept that changes are necessary, but please consider letting the Deer Creek neighborhood not be divided.

Thank you!

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5/17/2012 10:59:19SandyConnellLacamas Height Elementary1In 2013 we will have one child in K, the other in 2nd at Lacamas Heights. I agree with the plan of a previous comment from a parent...which I copied and pasted below.

5/14/2012 11:13:22 We are never going to make everyone happy or this wouldn't be an issue that needs a forum that updates every 5 minutes.

I was wondering if the school district and the advisory council know what locations and what children represent the F/R lunch program? If this is known, which I am sure it is since they put percentages on the handouts, why aren’t they being shown in the boundary drawings? Let’s identify the areas to find the best solution as a whole. Once this is shown why not just split those areas up and bus those children to separate schools.

Data shows that Social-Economic balanced schools have a better percentage of test scores for the District as a whole. We as a Community would actually be giving a better education for the children who represent the F/R lunch program by placing them equally throughout the 6 elementary schools. If the elementary schools were balanced the kids in a whole would score better, be better educated and lessen the concern of what middle school is fed by what elementary schools.

Let’s say there are 6 areas of Camas School District that represent the F/R lunch children and where they live. Why not split those areas up to 6 sections and bus those children to 6 different elementary schools? By the data posted its approximately 500 children on the F/R lunch program in the elementary schools. Try putting 83 kids in each school and the problem will be solved. Not only does it benefit the Teachers and the schools, it gives those children the diversification of Social Economic Balance and thus they will receive a better education for it. I understand we cannot get the numbers exact but it can be a lot closer than it is right now.

We are playing social class warfare right now in the school boundaries and it’s just going to get uglier as we go along. Let’s show our leadership in Washington DC that we aren’t going to be like them and actually accomplish something that benefits us as a whole. This Social-Economic game is ridiculous, look at the children and think of them, stop thinking of our own needs and let’s look at the needs to fairly distribute the schools so the School District as a whole will benefit. This will greatly help the test scores in Middle School and the High School by doing the Social-Economic Balance in the elementary schools. Eventually with only one High School the balance is just eliminated. Let’s not have what we have now. I have heard kids refer to one school as the “Rich Kids go there.”

What you can determine from this forum is that no one has been in favor of having one or two schools with an extremely high Social Economic number at least no one has openly said they are in favor of it. I venture to say tons of Grass Valley families would be extremely motivated for balance if the entire F/R Lunch students were all placed in Grass Valley. Maybe we should, they do have very good test scores. Maybe we can help out those out who need the best education.

Do we really want to have one school at 9 percent and another at 32 percent? Then the decision to have the three (3) highest F/R lunch schools feed one middle school and the three (3) lowest feed the other is just absolutely wrong. Let’s stop worrying about bus distances the town isn’t very big; educating our children to be the best leaders and providers in the future is our top priority.

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5/17/2012 15:07:59MichelleCulhaneNoneNoneMy son will be attending DF after the boundary changes next year. There are no sidewalks on Astor and horrible speeding traffic. We are all close enough to walk, however it is not safe. Anything on the books to add that 30 feet of sidewalk?

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5/19/2012 8:40:33LauriePetersonDorothy Fox Elementary, Skyridge Middle School5/8/2012Please keep Lacamas View neighborhood in the Dorthy Fox boundaries...we are within 1 mile of the school and it makes no sense to have us drive across town. keep us at Skyridge instead of having us drive across town as well, when we already live on the same side of town as Skyridge.

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5/19/2012 11:06:46erinjonesHelen Baller Elementary, Liberty Middle School1/6/2012I was writing with the hopes that this go around our thoughts and feeling for OUR children could be heard. Just three years ago you moved our neighborhood 10th ave and surounding nieghborhod out of Prune Hill. Now you plan on moving us back in. At the time we tried to fight it then and we weren't heard and were told "not one more child would fit and we are already in portables" also they didn't want the "down the hill kids". As a parent it hurt me then and it hurts us now to have to hear we aren't wanted again. Prune Hill will once again be at compacety BUT Helen Baller will be well below! Also we ARE wanted at Helen Baller, My daughters Tile teacher wants her and we have built a relationship. My daughters counseler wants her, they have a weekly meeting with a group of kids to work on making friendship because this is already something she struggles with. My daughters AP teachers want her when she works so hard to be an over achieving student! Many of my daughters friends already had to struggle adjusting after you moved us once and now you plan on up rooting her AGAIN! We as a family and the families in this neighborhood have worked hard to give our children a strong foundation and you choose to keep disrupting that. Also regardless of my neighborhood we don't do free and reduced lunches much like many other families I know in this neighborhood. We are all much closer to Helen Baller and Liberty as well. My daughter gets sick on the bus ride now and Skyridge is very far from us. Many kids like having the option of walking. One little girl every morning I see walking with her dad with a big smile on her face, this has been something they have done for months and I personally would hate to not have this as an option. I was so HURT after fighting so hard last time that I didn't even want to go through the fighting again. I know I should have said something earlier but the fact that we just keeping getting moved around says a lot about our neighborhood and how much our say matters. Please consider this even at the late time and the fact that there IS room for us should say something! We would love to have a guaranteed boundry exception for the 8th grader's but this in no way helps with the younger students that have already had to move once! My children would love to stay exactly where they are and where they KNOW by everyone they are wanted!

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5/20/2012 11:47:51JayGuoPrune Hill Elementary3We bought our house for Prune Hill and Skyridge. We love the teachers and staff at PH. Both of my boys have friends at Deer Creek. He can't imagine transferring to DF at 5th Grade.


View Ridge Estate

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5/20/2012 20:38:10Ruth KilroyNoneNoneI live in View Ridge and do not understand why you would change students in our neighborhood from Prune Hill to Dorothy Fox. It is a much shorter and safer walk from our neighborhood, View Ridge Estates, to Prune Hill than to Dorothy Fox. Please include View Ridge Estates in the Prune Hill district.

Ruth & Gene Kilroy

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5/21/2012 22:06:53Brad GillespieHelen Baller Elementary1/3/2012Dear Camas School Board Members,

In light of the number of comments and concerns shared by the public at the Monday meeting and on the online community forum, I offer this modification to the current boundary proposal that directly addresses the concern over the immediate F/R% balance between GV, HB and WB.

For the next 3-5 years, keep neighborhoods 44, 46 and 47 attending Grass Valley (see attached map). This would provide immediate balance between the schools and allow students of these neighborhoods to continue to attend the school they have been attending (see attached statistics). If necessary, these neighborhoods would continue to attend Liberty as well to ease the capacity issues at Skyridge.

Once the new development near Woodburn elementary and other growth areas comes online - perhaps as soon as 3 years and as far out as 5, bring the three neighborhoods above back to where they were originally planned to go: 44-HB, 46, 47-WB (see attached proposal statistics).

With the better balance from the new growth, it may be possible with the space available in GV to allow for Lacamas Shores #13 to then attend GV from HB. It would also depend on the capacity and space at Skyridge.

If there is too large a F/R% discrepancy in HB resulting from bringing #13 into GV, a portion of the new growth in area #11 could be brought into HB (approx 70 children).

By 2016-2018, it’s possible for the percentages between the schools to balance better and more neighborhoods are attending the school nearest them. However, until there is growth, why not achieve balance between the schools?

This proposal is modest, but does much to address the public concern over the F/R% discrepancy. Attached is the F/R% breakdown for the schools for 2011, 2016 and 2012.
F/R%'s for 2011 would be:
DF - 16.5%
GV - 19.7%
HB - 23.9%
LH - 23.3%
PH - 11.2%
WB - 24.6%

2016:
DF - 10.3%
GV - 9.2%
HB - 23.9%
LH - 19.6%
PH - 17.2%
WB - 24.5%

2021 -
DF - 10.6%
GV - 9.2%
HB - 19.9%
LH - 19.7%
PH - 15.7%
WB - 18.5%








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5/22/2012 21:43:24SudyShafieePrune Hill Elementary5Please keep View Ridge St. in the Prune Hill school boundary.

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5/24/2012 10:06:15CorneliaMillerPrune Hill Elementary1/3/2005We disapprove the proposed boundary change for View Ridge Way for several reasons:
- Prune Hill is a better school than Dorothy Fox ( our kids have gone to D. F.
before).
- Property values are higher in the P. H. boundaries and resale is better as
well.
- All of our kids have had multiple school changes. Our 5th grader has been
to 5 different schools, 3rd grader to 3 and first grader to 2. We really were
relieved to not have to switch schools anymore and to have settled
permanently.
- Our youngest has ADHD and the way Prune Hill has communicated with
us, shown support and made us feel so integrated and welcome is
unparalleled. We do not want to lose that.
- A boundary excemption would not work for us, because it would pose all new problems with transportation after school while I am still at work.

Please reconsider the proposed boundaries.

Thank you,

Shannon and Cornelia Miller

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5/28/2012 21:13:30JeffMcCormickPrune Hill Elementary2/4/2012It’s been a real joy lately watching my 4th grader get up more excited than normal to go to school. The simple reason is the fact that he has reached the age where I have allowed him to walk to school with his neighborhood friends.
We live in Phase 7 of Deer Creek having specifically moved here last year because of the community’s reputation and the fact that all the homes here feed to Prune Hill Elementary. It’s pretty ironic now that we actually used a School Boundary Border map to ensure that the house we bought would provide that access.
My 4th grader will of course “age-out” before the proposed changes take effect but not some of the neighborhood kids he walks to school with daily nor my 2nd grader and the new kid coming in September.
It’s tough to even know where to begin my questioning of the reasoning behind the absurd changes that have been proposed! You want to deprive my kids of attending the neighborhood school that they can quickly walk to down well maintained, and already present sidewalks, and put them on a bus to Dorothy Fox for the purpose of some Socio-economic balancing act?
What about the health aspect of our children “walking” as opposed to sitting on the bus because of the impossibility of walking to a more distant school. With the ever increasing problem of obesity in kids nowadays shouldn’t we be more inclined to the promotion of activities that helps in that fight, and most likely delivers them to school more mentally awake and ready to learn?
Without even looking at the physical health benefits of staying in a neighborhood school there are also the mental health aspects. Your proposal would split up neighborhood friendships and equally important those at their present school, which in some children like one of mine, took a long time to develop.
Looking at some of the changes that took place between revision 1 & 2 really have raised some eyebrows in our community. Specifically the changing back of Thomas Estates to PHE which would have been a no-brainer to have fed to GV. The walking distance from Phase 7 is almost identical except we already have our safe sidewalks while they merely have speculation about a proposed project. Another difference is that we are part of a neighborhood, the rest of which will be going to PHE and they are part of one which will all be going to GV.
I would also like to point out that the amount of positive support we received from our “unaffected” neighbors while canvassing for signatures for our petition was absolutely incredible! We probably could have brought in a box full of signed petitions but of course we didn’t get the news of the “latest” revision until late on the Tuesday preceding the School Boards Monday meeting with our first real sunny days and Mother’s Day in between.
I can’t speak for everyone in the Deer Creek community because I didn’t talk with everyone, but I did not find one individual that saw this newest revision as a positive thing for our community. Whether they had kids that would be affected or not they all saw the dividing up of our neighborhood as the wrong approach to take.
Your concept of Socio-Economic Balancing might look good on paper, which it didn’t even accomplish this time, but is obviously flawed when it divides and disrupts an established neighborhood to achieve its goals!
We also have to address what this proposed division of my neighborhood stands to do to our property values. Like many of my neighbors we bought our houses because of their proximity to our local neighborhood school. Not only can I look from my deck and see the kids on the school grounds but in that same frame of view I am also looking at the residence of one of the members of the School Board. The difference being that although we are both part of the same Deer Creek neighborhood and same HOA, they will be kept within the PHE boundary and we’ll be forced to be bussed!
A neighbor who is moving because of a job transfer has already had a couple different people interested in his house. Hearing about the proposed changes in the school boundaries has resulted in both parties looking at other options.
The financial impact by lowering the values on our homes is not only going to affect us personally but the last time I checked the taxes collected for the school’s coiffures were based on this assessed value as well. In an economy struggling to regain lost ground in the real estate market I would hope that you as “elected” Office-holders might want to consider your actions a little more carefully. We also seem to have a rather large percentage of our homeowner tax burden each year that actually comes from “voter approved” levies. It reminds me of that old saying that reminds one to not bite the hand that feeds them.

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6/6/2012 0:09:08TimTeitenbergNoneNoneNot having children in school I wasn't aware of the rash and incomprehensible decisions being made here. It seems the goal of this effort was to bus as many children around as possible and break up communities. On Deer Creek phase 7 going to Dorothy Fox - it's not safe for an adult to walk to Dororthy Fox and you're asking children to do so?? I walk my dogs to Prune Hill regularly and it's safe. Why put children at such risk. Do your jobs or step aside and let someone capable do so.