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Age of Empires 21:20:00cut down to scenarios. This game definitely was popular back in the day, but I have a hard time justifying over an hour when Starcraft II is already on the schedule.

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American Gladiatorsdragonballjoseph0:10:00AwfulGDQNot really a standout awful game. You also can't speed up half of the events.

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Ape Escape 2 or 3crash41596 or Surreal1:45:00The first game was fairly well-received but it's also the most popular in the series. We also have more popular sony games like crash and spyro. Worth considering in the future.

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Bangai-Ozex0:50:00My treasure love. BibleThump. Game is actualy one of the better Treasure games to speedrun, but it's still a bit on the obscure side, and the small graphics and explosions everywhere might make it a bad watch (it's legitimately hard to see what's going on). If we're going to have a Treasure action game, I think Alien Soldier is the best pick.

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Banjo-TooieDai3:30:00Kazooie is more well-liked, and the new any% has some cool skips.

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Batman: Arkham AsylumRobosparkle/HonorableJay2:50:00Hard mode?Less tricks than City and it's hard to justify a game of this length if it's not as good of a watch as City.

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Battleblock TheaterPJ and Mecha Richter?They're figuring out any%Turns out any% is about as long as 100% and this is a great game, but 2 hours is too long.

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Blast Corps 100%2:00:00now any%I'm having a really hard time justifying 100% blast corps in a game list this strong, I think an any% race would also bring in a good amount of excitement/hype.

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BlastoSaint Connor0:45:00AwfulGDQDefinitely awful, but not that entertaining.

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Castlevaniadragondarch0:40:00low%I'm not convinced this is marathon safe. Josh was getting mauled by death when he tried this category, and he's the best at the game.

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Chakan the Forever ManUltraJMan0:25:00AwfulGDQNot as awful or as entertaining as some of our other awful picks

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Conker's Bad Fur Daypappy2:10:00100%Everyone knows the poo song, but is there much else to this game? I feel at the end of the day it's a weaker rare pick that's not the best speedrun, considering that Banjo, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, and DKR are already on the schedule.watch a run!

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Crash Bandicoot (2 games)1:00:00Worth having one Crash game, but not 3.

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Darkwing Duckjoka, TheMexicanRunner0:20:00We have stronger Mega Man games. No, that's not a typo.

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Devil May Cryahuynh2:00:00It's not likely he can come. :(

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Dirty HarryMURPHAGATOR!0:35:00AwfulGDQDefinitely awful, but murph told me he either hasn't beaten the game or he has only beaten the game once, and the game is not marathon safe (it can't do proper math with lives lol)

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Disney Extreme Skate AdventureChrno0:25:00Doesn't strike me as a strong draw for a bonus game.

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Donkey Kong Jungle BeatPiePusher111:45:00100%Stacked up against the main DKC games, this doesn't cut it. Also Bongo noise overpowering commentary is a legitimate issue, even with a lavalier mic.

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Doom bid warouch0:45:00We had both Dooms AGDQ 2013, so I think this is the best way to deal with the games. Kubelwagon, Dime, and Shadowwraith would still have a game regardless.

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DrakkhenDragondarch1:15:00AwfulGDQ. Pots and PansAwful? yes. Unwatchable? Also yes. Even with PJ commentary I have a hard time justifying this game.

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DustforceMarche_Fighter_Paladin1:00:00any%Good watch but I'm having trouble justifying its existence on the schedule again with so many new entries that are also good watches.

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F-ZeroEdwardFourZERO60:50:00Grand Prixfuck. it's weaker than x and gx and I have to cut some racers.

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F-Zero: Maximum VelocityYazzo1:00:00Master Grand PrixOut of the F-Zero games I would say this is the weakest. I hear it's a better watch than the original, but it's not as well known afaik.

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Far Cry 3: Blood Dragonsix_strings1:20:00I don't think the humor in this game would be a big part of the speedrun, and unless if I'm missing something, it looks just like a lot of other modern fps to me.

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FezSloth or Crimson Phoenix or TBRX0:45:00Boring watch IMO, also this game seems to be more notable for Phil Fish being an asshole than the game itself. :-/

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Final Fantasy IIISir VG0:20:00Famicom versionThis run would be really confusing more than a good watch.

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Frogger: He's BackCaneOfPacci0:20:00Honestly really weak as a bonus game. I think PJ and Flicky are on both the short and long list of people who are dying to see this game run.

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Future Cop: LAPDZastbat0:20:00AwfulGDQNot really that awful or standout in any way, though I guess the clips are a decent watch. I don't think this game should get a free pass just because it was in the speedrun tournament.

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Giant Bomb E3 Fighting Championsyour name here0:10:00AwfulGDQDefinitely awful, and an okay watch for how short it is, but there's definitely stronger awful games on the list.

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God of WarNeroMcNamara2:00:00Cowmageddon?GoW last year got a good reaction for tem commentary, but I'm not sure about the game itself. Too bad, because the game has a lot of skips too.

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HereticCubeface0:50:00It's a good game, but it's not very well-remembered outside of being a medieval doom clone.

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I wanna be the BoshyTenshots or IrelandofEndor1:10:00Guy is stronger with general audience, Boshy is probably stronger with Twitch audience and 4chan. If I had to choose, I would go with guy, especially since Kayin is a speedrun fan and he is down for a developer call on skype.

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Jazz JackrabbitVortale0:40:00Cult classic, but doesn't stack up against other games. Does it have anything going for it other than being fast? Might be hard to follow for people who don't know the game.

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Jet Set Radio FutureUrBoyGraham2:30:00I hate cutting this because I think it's a good watch (better than the original because you don't have to stop for graffiti and it's much faster), but we have stronger stuff on the schedule and it's pretty long.

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Magickamoooh0:45:00Eh, the mine boosts are fun, but is there much more to the game than that? Also co-op is the big draw of this game IMO, even if that's not good for a speedrun.

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Mario Kart Wiidrogbass0:50:00New tracks vs. Retro tracks bid war?Gotta cut some Mario Kart, and this is the weakest.

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Max Payne 2Kotti1:00:00This was one of the last cuts because it's a good game on its own right with a good amount of tricks. However, we have stronger fps/tps on the list, and the pacing is slower compared to a lot of those games.

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Mega Man 3Checkers0:50:00Checkers can't make it. :(

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Mega Man 5thadarkman78, Joka, specone, and UraniumAnchor0:55:00possible race?No specialized runner except for Joka and definitely looking like the weakest classic Mega Man on the list

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Mega Man X2bunch of people1:00:00raceIt's either this or X3 and X3 has a specialist, while everyone is learning this game. X3 is a bit weaker as a game, but it still has a good amount of tech and shortcuts so it's a good watch.

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Mega Man Zerokuribon0:45:00all-missionsI think we can only squeeze one Zero game and Zero 3 is the best watch.

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Mega Man Zero 2mikwuyma1:20:00s-rankKuribon is more well-practiced at his games than I am at this, and this is the longest of the Zero games. Also the cutscenes. D:

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Metal Gear RisingGeneral Beatrix1:10:00new game +This has more skips than new game, but new game + runs have been very poorly received in the past (jrdq Aria of Sorrow and this year's DMC3 come to mind).

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Metal Gear Solid 2: SoLdroogie2:00:00Extreme or European Extreme difficultyI know we just did MGS1, but it's a different category this time and MGS2 seems to get strongly divided reactions.

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Metroid Zero Mission low%dragondarch2:10:00low% is better on paper than it is in execution. The bosses take a really long time and it's boring to watch at times. There's also a lot of possible time variance from deaths. 100% is both shorter and a better watch.

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MonopolyDarkwing Duck0:10:00This game could work as a joke game but it's kinda meh.

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Monster PartyCountneko0:25:00WTFJapanThis game is goofy, but it doesn't really stand out otherwise

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Ninja Gaiden Master SystemAdamAK and KrazyRasmus0:30:00raceIt's a good watch, but if we're going to have lesser-known ninja games on the list, Ninja Five-o and Mark of the Ninja are better watches

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Ninja Kun: Ashura no ShoKlaige and romscout0:45:00race? AwfulGDQ and move over ninja gaidenI think this game might have Toki-itis. Hilarious when you see people fail, boring when you see people play it competently

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North and SouthSvenne0:05:00sound effects optionalI don't know how many people would actually donate for this because it's an obscure game with no excitement around it.

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Pikmin 1TheOnlyOne1:35:003 is more broken with oob tricks and has new game smell.

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Pokemon Blue 151Werster5:30:00logistical headache%Think about the donations for 151 pokemon name bid wars will bring! Oh right, when you consider only one or two Pokemon are used (Gengar and I think Mew), and the fact no one cares about Pokemon like Bellsprout, it's actually not a very big draw. Also, having that many bid wars for names is a logistical nightmare and asking, "what's this pokemon's name" would add around an hour to the schedule, no joke.

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Pokemon Crystal5upamayne2:45:00Just chopping down pokemon.

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Pokemon Puzzle Challengeunusualcook0:30:00intense difficultyIronically even though this is a better game than Pokemon Snap, snap has more charm and works better as a bonus game.

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Punch-Out WiiZallard11:20:00Donations for blindfoldedI don't know if this is weaker than Super Punch-Out, but it's definitely a lot longer. I have trouble justifying this game simply for its length, and we already have the first two games.

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Quake III ArenaKirua0:45:00Nightmare difficultyCompared to the other FPS choices we have, this doesn't stack up, especially since it's killing bots and spawn camping.

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Rad RaygunPJ0:15:00AwfulGDQIt's a hot glitchy mess, but I'm not so sure about this game.

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Simpsons: Bart vs. the Space MutantsTheMexicanRunner0:25:00AwfulGDQAwful, but the worst part is the controls, which I don't think translate too well on screen

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Sly CooperSurreal1:40:00I would normally consider this game (it's honestly a strong game IMO), but after talking to Surreal again it looks like very unlikely he can come, and he's the only one who runs this game.

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Sonic 2Aleck47/Kiyura0:30:00Even though it hasn't been a month, I haven't heard much from either runner (except aleck47 was going to get some streaming equipment), and there's a good chance the run wouldn't be up to current Sonic standards.

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Sonic 3 and KnucklesWerster0:50:00Werster dropped it

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Sonic Advancespecone0:25:00Runner is an unknown in the Sonic community (asked a TSC member) and I have no idea how well he'd perform. Advance is also one of the weaker Sonic games on the list.

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Sonic CDfootbigmike0:25:00footbigmike can't come :(

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Sonic LabyrinthVenick4090:25:00AwfulGDQDefinitely awful but not the greatest watch and Sonic R is the better pick. Also Venick can't come.

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SpelunkyLLCooldave0:20:00LLCoolDave said this would either crash and burn from trying to be too risky, or it would be a bad watch from trying to be too safe.

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Spyro the DragonSurreal or SSBMstuff or ChrisLBC0:45:00any%So surreal told me Spyro was more about "optimization" whereas spyro 3 has an air swimming glitch. To me the air swimming glitch wins. All of the Spyro games generally seem to be well-liked so I don't think there's an issue like MMX games or DKC where the third game is worse than the first two.

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Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast kairos1:10:00I think Shadowwraith said it best, good pacing but the tricks aren't really obvious. Also not as well-known as some of the others fps on our list.

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Star Wars: Rogue Leaderarrow1:00:00Does good reviews back in the day equate to fondness for a game? Past results have said not really. The SNES Star Wars games are honestly a bigger draw.

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Super Mario 64PEACHES_1:30:00one-handed 70-starThis is great bonus stream material, but probably not main marathon material. I also talked to Siglemic and he said he isn't running anything, so I don't think it's worth having this game.

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Super Mario Bros. 2JeffroSledger0:35:00All levelsJeffro possibly can't make it. :(

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Super Mario Sunshinetoufool and co.1:30:00This game was at SGDQ and didn't do great donation-wise. The game was hype, but it'll be hard to be beat doo-doo-doo crew.

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Super Mario KartKVD0:40:00My Childhood, BibleThump. Seriously we had to cut down some racers and this is honestly one of the weaker racers we have.

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Super Meat BoyBreakdown0:30:00106%I had to cut down time somewhere, and 106% had its day in the sun last agdqconsider dark world ending

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Taz-Maniajape0:20:00Taz-Maniajape can't make it

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Time Crisis somethingVega49930:30:00Not really convinced Time Crisis is the greatest of speedrun watches (though might be okay for variety's sake), and a bid war wouldn't be very strong IMO. also lightgun on a different tv might be a logistical issue.

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Tomba!Mecha Richter1:15:00Good game that is probably a cult-classic, but a bit more on the obscure side of things and we have a good amount of playstation platformers already.

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Tomb Raider 2013oozaroo2:20:00Honestly TR2's shortcuts are more obvious and watching a speedrun of the new TR shows it has a lot of slower qte/cutscene moments.

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Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlineslurk1:00:00Cult-classic and has good glitches, but we have so many stronger FPS games. Yes, I know technically this game isn't an FPS.

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We <3 Katamariguys1:20:00cut in favor of the original. The orginal is more well-liked and it's shorter.

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Witcher 2Aphox2:45:00Honestly doesn't strike me as a very good watch. Aphox's highlight video didn't sell me or anyone else.

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World of Illusion: Starring Mickey Mouse and Donald DuckEdenal0:25:00The two biggest selling points for this game is that it would fit well with the other Disney stuff we have (which isn't a big one), and a Mickey vs. Donald donation war (which also wouldn't be big, IMO). Aside from that the game is a fairly slow platformer (good, but slow).

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XardionZerst0:40:00AwfulGDQHilarious cutscenes, boring and slow gameplay. Too bad you can't skip the gameplay bits.

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The Legend of ZeldaBreakdown and Darkwing Duck0:50:00Race if DW can come.Good game, but the Zelda selection is so stacked.

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The Legend of Zelda: Majora's MaskKeeta3:10:00All MasksThis is for time considerations more than anything else. I need to cut time down somewhere, and reducing MM to any% from 100% shaves time and lets MM be on the schedule.

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The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages/SeasonsMexiricanBassMonkey3:15:00Bid war between the two?Would make a good bid war, but the Oracles games themselves aren't that long, and Mexi hasn't really put the time into the games yet, which wouldn't be a concern if the games weren't so long. Also there's a big time discrepancy between the two games.

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The Legend of Zelda: Skyward SwordTestrunner/TLoZSR6:00:00Apparently back in time glitch is not a great watch, and the flying autoscroller bits don't help either. We have so much 3D Zelda it's ridiculous and I'm having a hard time justifying this one. Worth considering for a future marathon.

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Zelda II: Adventure of LinkPro_JN1:10:00We've had this in the last three marathons, and this SGDQ it didn't do so hot in donations. Pro_JN is the best, but we have a lot of Zelda runners coming in who are the best at their game.

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ZoolButtersBB0:45:00AwfulGDQAwful? yes. Fast-paced? yes, but lots of generic platforming, and the bosses are the most stand-out thing in this game, going with no. Also butters seemed convinced we'd cut the game anyway, so I'm confirming his suspicions

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