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LORDEROS - POSTS/LINKS
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PHIL'S COMMENTSImportance Ranking 1 -to 5 (5=Most Important)Description of Post & CommentsLink to Post
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Lorderos Amazing Tips & Tricks (Zen & Genesis Devices)
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If you have any questions or comments, you can email Ladystricknine@gmail.com or PM on ECF @ LadyStrick9 or Lorderos33To be completed by Lorderos33Review of Thread Complete thru 10/2/12 Post #48 (not much movement in this thread, FYI)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/303637-lorderos-amazing-tips-tricks-zenesis-other-genesis-devices-2.html#post7283221
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Video: Zenesis Tank Cleaning by Murdockhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4WOFEZlZDk
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PV burning lips & tongue (see post for Phil's suggestions for solving this problem)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1549.html#post6879442
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Hybrid Mini from POC: Pics of threaded rods, heatshrink tubing, machined holes, top and bottom caps. Phil has included pics of the switch housing, Pics also included of device after it's put back together :)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/303637-lorderos-amazing-tips-tricks-zenesis-other-genesis-devices.html#post6674122
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To completely flush the old juice,1) Pull the tank, or 2) Inject water & shake it all outhttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/303637-lorderos-amazing-tips-tricks-zenesis-other-genesis-devices.html#post6500460
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Thickness of wicks may make a difference in juice darkeninghttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/303637-lorderos-amazing-tips-tricks-zenesis-other-genesis-devices.html#post6500448
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Burnt & unpleasant taste that doesn't want to go away (Drain juice then flush, dry burn then quench, when it's glowing bright red, fill it back up - no need for a new wick)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/303637-lorderos-amazing-tips-tricks-zenesis-other-genesis-devices.html#post6437799
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Tip for those in need of replacement PTFE insulator for the wick (Phil tells how to use an ordinary ink pen to make a tube - in a pinch)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/303637-lorderos-amazing-tips-tricks-zenesis-other-genesis-devices.html#post6420692
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Clean threading without a fiberglass brush (Detailed list of items you will need included in the post)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/303637-lorderos-amazing-tips-tricks-zenesis-other-genesis-devices.html#post6315644
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O-ring dimensions for both standard and mini tankshttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/303637-lorderos-amazing-tips-tricks-zenesis-other-genesis-devices-2.html#post7150815
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Zenesis Standard: Tip for putting tank back on (trick is to push & turn, push & turn, applying even pressure & rotating around until the o-ring is able to settle into the groove without stretching) http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/303637-lorderos-amazing-tips-tricks-zenesis-other-genesis-devices.html#post6316566
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Zenesis Cleaning Process - Full Tear Down & Rebuild (Instructions include pictures and step-by-step instructions for full tear-down and rebuild of Zenesis)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/303637-lorderos-amazing-tips-tricks-zenesis-other-genesis-devices.html#post6315644
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House of Hybrid - Zen PV
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Begin review at page 1366, Post #54601, 7/18/12 (reviewing forward but posting backwards - newest at top of page)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1366.html
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Thread was started on 12/5/11 by Zen~ and is currently at 9/3/12, Post #71335, page 1784 (40 posts per page) Review is not complete and will take several more weeks. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1615.html#post6941566
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Zenesis Coil Basics Video (Thank you Mr. White) Close-up (By Zen) "how-to" for wrapping coil and inserting wick.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1554.html#post6885805
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Juice/PV is burning mouth (Per Phil, coil may not be getting hot enough. There is a number of reasons for this) See post for detailshttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1522.html#post6863056
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Why would someone need to change their coil every 4 or 5 days? (He's using a coil that is too cool for his juice. See thread for additional information.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1356.html#post6706615
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Sanding button screw should not be necessary to correct misfires unless there are burrs present. Take the switch apart again, clean thoroughly and reassemble using a light coating of quality conductive grease. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1350.html#post6695158
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YouTube Link "Genesis Atomiser Easy Coil Set-up using a cigarette paper" (good link, especially for new Genesis Users)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp-8vSTWw2E
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NoOxId: Where can I find it?http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1215.html#post6566031
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Problems with button firing on Ti and Mini (See post for details)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1215.html#post6565943
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NoOxId: What parts should it be used on? (See post for details)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1215.html#post6565815
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Putting switch back together - use a jar lid opener (see post for additional info)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1220.html#post6569219
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Dielectric Grease: NEVER ever use on any PV (see post for additional info)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1217.html#post6566781
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NoOxid: Phil recommends using it on the connector of the Z-Atty-G but not the P or U models.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1217.html#post6566618
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NoOxid: Detailed instructions for preparation and application (See post)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1217.html#post6566596
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NoOxid. Do not recommend using DeOxit Gold because it can leave a residue over time that inhibits electrical connections (See post for additional info)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1216.html#post6566136
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Button got hot after NoOxId applied: Per Phil, that could be a sign of a "dead short". Maybe too much was left applied. Apply only a very thin layer and only on conductive surfaces. If there is some left on the plastic part of the switch, wipe it off as it is a conductive compound. "Less is more with this stuff"http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1215.html#post6565682
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NoOxId: Which parts should it be applied to? All of the metal parts in the button except the magnets and where you hands will touch. See post for more info.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1215.html#post6565815
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What can be done to improve flavor? Several factors play a role in flavor production. Make sure wick is not touching bottom of tank, the cap or the top screw. This will produce a shorting effect that could kill the flavor of your vape. See post for more info.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1214.html#post6565068
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Nichrome works well enough, but Kanthal is superior in terms of durabilityhttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1214.html#post6565068
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NTE303 Silicone Thermal Compound (Phil does not recommend because it is a thermal compound so it's designed to conduct heat. not electricity and would hamper the electrical connections vs enhancing them)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1209.html#post6560194
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NoOxId (If everything is clean and coated with a thin layer you will get more power to the coil than with a spring and it will be extrememly reliable (follow the cleaning process in the Tips & Tricks Thread) Lorderos also posts a Disclaimer that he does not work for or is affiliated with SACHEMhttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1209.html#post6560032
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316 vs 304 wicking materialhttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1199.html#post6550215
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Should I clean when I see decreased performance? Or weekly? (Only necessary to clean when a drop in performance is noticed)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1199.html#post6549987
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Use NO-OX-ID instead of DeOxit Gold & detailed instructions for HOW to apply (Phil explains why he prefers NoOxId instead of DeOxit Gold)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1198.html#post6549203
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Automatic adjusting center pins (pic)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1111.html#post6495000
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How many times do I get coils hot then douse them by turning upside down? (Per Phil - just once. More than that is a waste of juice)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1111.html#post6494913
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Taste is "harsh & metallic" - there is a short somewhere (Check to make sure wick is not touching bottom of tank or cap. If it's a new wrap, check for shorts and sort them accordingly) http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1111.html#post6494899
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PROTEUS is the new battery tube made for Penelopehttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1108.html#post6492400
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Link for Woven Wire Mesh Stainless Steel Mesh 12"x12" filtration (this is surgical grade 316 SS, 400x400 mesh at a very reasonable price)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1085.html#post6478586
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Check link on this - possible errorNo-Ox-Id is non-toxic and FDA Approved: Best stuff EVER!! Puts NoAlox to shame!http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1053.html#post6460110
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Blue Magic Metal Polish is best for polishing Zen (is not overly abrasive and doesn't wear down laser etchings. Can get it at Wal-mart, is fairly inexpensive)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1037.html#post6452353
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Bad Connection - taking a long time to heat up coils. (Referred to Tips & Tricks Thread - Cleaning)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1008.html#post6434557
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Weak Flavor? Time to clean the wicks! (Hold the Zen straight up, hold the button til the wick & mesh glow red. While button is pressed, run cold water, dry then re-wet wick with juice)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1007.html#post6433647
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Your tank went black? (Wick touching bottom of tank? Switch, contact points or threads dirty? Weak connection? Last possibility could be weak batteries)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1007.html#post6433797
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If you have trouble getting fresh coils working...here's a Trick :) Phil provides step-by-step instructions in this long post.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-996.html#post6425673
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Juice is getting darker in tank (darkening juice comes from the juice boiling more and vaporizing less on the coils. Clean the contacts and switch. If that doesn't work, put a new coil on. Refer to post for additional instructions)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-951.html#post6389617
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Button feels really lose, no tension when pressed. (possible solution could be missing or broken magnets. Advised to look up Zen's Switch Video for disassembly of switch - take a look at magnets)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-953.html#post6390185
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xNot much vapor & harsh feeling in lungs (1 of 2 problems: Not enough volts getting to the coil or over-wicking - refer to post for further instructions)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-926.html#post6373641
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NO-OX-ID (for the best results) - Favorite grease, but instructions need to be following carefully. Refer to post for details.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-926.html#post6373525
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Color of Juice can indicate what adjustments are needed: This is explained in depth in another post, will note it once I see it again.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1160.html#post6346122
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Black patina that develops on the Kanthal further prevents shorting: This is important to remember. Coils do not have to be shiny to work well and most often work best after the Kanthal Oxide is established.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1139.html#post6335967
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Pinched wick could have detrimental effects on wicking performance: The wick should always be like a straw. No kinks and no pinched tops or bottoms.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1138.html#post6334654
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Wicking instructions: Firing, dunk in cold water/use pin or paperclip to insert wick backhttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-3413.html#post6334883
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Goal is to have wick wet enough that it spews steam and not glowing (when working correctly it will not light up until it's dry)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-854.html#post6335089
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Top coils caked (See pictures: This can happen most often when run too long with weakened batteries. Hold button and let coil get really hot then run under cold water. Crust should fall right off).http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-854.html#post6335722
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Noalox, NO-OX-ID (use on APVs) - Do not use Krytox: Krytox is expensive and toxic, DO NOT USE FOR PV'shttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1126.html#post6328732
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Frayed edges must be dealt with immediately: 99% of shorts that are difficult to clear are caused by this. This tip will save you ALOT of time :)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1121.html#post6324923
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Anti-gall on deoxit (anti-gall is a good conductivity enhancer and contact cleaner, but its designed use is to prep electronic components for soldering. NO-OX-ID is a grease, so it is anti-gall in nature)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1118.html#post6323507
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Stainless Steel is very abrasive and it locks together for lack of lubrication, it can be near-impossible to unbind)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1118.html#post6323298
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Link to purchase Red O-ringshttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1106.html#post6316094
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How often do I clean the wick? (Clean when performance starts to degrade - not always top to bottom: Clean tanks when changing juice or it tastes funny, clean switch when it starts taking more effort to fire than you think it should, Per Phil, complete top-to-bottom about once a month to keep it happy and looking good :)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1106.html#post6315837
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Where to get the fiberlass brush? (They can be found in Radio Shack near the soldering equipment) Link provided to Radio Shack online.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1105.html#post6315706
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Glow in the dark O-rings (Link provided)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1104.html#post6315528
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Zenesis Cleaning Process - Full Tear Down & Rebuild (Instructions include pictures and step-by-step info) Duplicate?http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1103.html#post6315413
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Replacing a broken quartz with polycarbonate tubing and a small pipe cutter to make a new tank. (where to buy when Zen is out of stock)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1040.html#post6280092
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Reistance build-up in the switch due to needing to be cleaned (remove switch, clean thoroughly and reassemble. Clean threads in tube thoroughly. Rub everything with alcohol and reassemble.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1039.html#post6280064
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What is NO-OX-ID? (NoOxId is what electric companies use to maintain conductivity and prevent oxidation on all electrical contacts)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1017.html#post6268135
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Wicks come primed & ready to use (VG for #325, PG for #400 wicks)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-931.html#post6199177
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Pushing button too hardhttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-912.html#post6190698
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Prepare mesh with Butane Torch instead of Propanehttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-793.html#post6158186
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Is it possible to burn a wick?http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-790.html#post6156425
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#325 mesh is more durable than #400http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-782.html#post6146354
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Prepare mesh with Butane Torch instead of Propanehttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-793.html#post6158186
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Is it possible to burn a wick?http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-790.html#post6156425
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#325 mesh is more durable than #400http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-782.html#post6146354
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Protein Sequencehttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-642.html#post6044867
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Bottom coil should be up and away from the ptfe inserthttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-572.html#post5983660
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32ga wire vs 30gahttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-544.html#post5926519
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#400 mesh is fine for most juice. #325 if you want more TH or juice is thickerhttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/250852-katana-poc-show-tell-34.html#post5805929
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Darkening of juice at bottom of tank - experiment resultshttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-322.html#post5781167
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Adding a wrap - gives higher Ohmshttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-317.html#post5774639
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Per Emonty: Insulator: The Zen line is the only one that uses an insulator. No other Genesis line has it. (See post for additional information) http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/245748-house-hybrids-featuring-zenesis-pv-1885.html#post7201234
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Katana by POC - Show & Tell
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Thread begins on 12/21/11, as is closed on 5/3/12 at Post #1630. A new thread is started on 5/3/12 (see below) "Katana by POC - Show & Tell - Part 2" (Link to right is for the last post on this thread)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/250852-katana-poc-show-tell-41.html#post5987953
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Can't turn the ring to lock the switch (Instructions provided on taking apart without causing damage)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/250852-katana-poc-show-tell-41.html#post5983578
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Can magnets limit the flow of current?http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/250852-katana-poc-show-tell-55.html#post5982534
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Watts determine how much vapor you can produce. Warning.http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/250852-katana-poc-show-tell-53.html#post5950610
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AW IMR batteries out performhttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/250852-katana-poc-show-tell-53.html#post5950592
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Installing Magnetshttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/250852-katana-poc-show-tell-53.html#post5950366
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IMR'S out-perform flat-topshttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/250852-katana-poc-show-tell-53.html#post5950299
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Wire sizing will change the resistance (Loft)http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/250852-katana-poc-show-tell-52.html#post5925686
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Magnet sizes/where to purchasehttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/250852-katana-poc-show-tell-52.html#post5922338
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BWB Juice/#325 mesh works finehttp://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/250852-katana-poc-show-tell-51.html#post5921639
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BUNA 90/durable O-ring http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/250852-katana-poc-show-tell-51.html#post5910361