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1 | Timestamp | Which of the following features should we add to refine clusters? | If we add cluster-refining features, in what direction should they go? | How frequent will each consonant be? [m] | How frequent will each consonant be? [n] | How frequent will each consonant be? [ŋ] | How frequent will each consonant be? [p] | How frequent will each consonant be? [b] | How frequent will each consonant be? [t̪] | How frequent will each consonant be? [t] | How frequent will each consonant be? [d] | How frequent will each consonant be? [k] | How frequent will each consonant be? [g] | How frequent will each consonant be? [ʔ] | How frequent will each consonant be? [s] | How frequent will each consonant be? [z] | How frequent will each consonant be? [ɸ] | How frequent will each consonant be? [θ̠] | How frequent will each consonant be? [x] | How frequent will each consonant be? [w] | How frequent will each consonant be? [β̞] | How frequent will each consonant be? [ɹ] | How frequent will each consonant be? [j] | How frequent will each consonant be? [ɰ] | How frequent will each consonant be? [l] | How frequent will each consonant be? [ʙ] | How frequent will each consonant be? [r] | How frequent will each vowel be? [i] | How frequent will each vowel be? [y] | How frequent will each vowel be? [e] | How frequent will each vowel be? [a] | How frequent will each vowel be? [o] | How frequent will each vowel be? [u] | How frequent will each vowel be? [i:] | How frequent will each vowel be? [y:] | How frequent will each vowel be? [e:] | How frequent will each vowel be? [a:] | How frequent will each vowel be? [o:] | How frequent will each vowel be? [u:] | Which of the following class systems should we use? | Should we change the number system to mixed base-12-base-24 — meaning we'd go up to 12, then 12 more, until we reach 24 and start over, making 37 = 24 + 12 + 1 — or should we just keep it as it is? | Should adjectives be marked for number? | Which verb tenses should we use? | What additional tense distinctions should we make? | Should verb tense be relative or absolute? | Aside from the indicative, which verb moods should we use? (Please look these up! Ask questions if you're confused!) | Which verb aspects should we use? (Please look these up! Ask questions if you're confused!) | Should we have irregular verbs? | Should we have adverbs? | If we do end up with adverbs, should they be able to modify adjectives and other adverbs? | Where should the adverbs be located in relation to the word they're modifying? | Should adverbs agree with the thing they're modifying, or should they be indeclinable? | Should adjectives be marked for polarity? | Out of the ones listed in this image — http://i.imgur.com/XTeWEp8.png (the same as the one in the text-post) — which alphabet should we use? | How should long vowels be written? | How many persons should there be? | Should we have T–V distinction (multiple 2nd person pronouns for formality)? | Should we distinguish inclusive and exclusive we? | How should we mark negation? | How should questions be formed? | Should we come up with a way to compound words together? | We've decided on using both generated roots with human-assigned meanings and entirely human-generated words. What would be the best way to go about this? | It's too early to decide on what the conworld should be, but we should still think about what its purpose will be. How much will the conworld affect the language, and in what ways? | Any feedback, suggestions, complaints, or just general comments? | |
2 | 7/29/2014 22:42:51 | Voicing assimilation | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/, To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 5 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 3 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Human (with gender-marked words), animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | None | Relative | Subjunctive, Conditional, Potential, Imperative, Desiderative, Hypothetical, Eventive, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Perfect, Prospective, Continuous, Gnomic and episodic, Inceptive, Defective, Frequentative, Intentional and accidental | Yes | Yes | Yes | Before | Indeclinable | Yes | 2, 3, 4, 5, 12 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, ā ē ī ō ū ȳ, á é í ó ú ý, A E I O U Y | 3/4/2014 | Yes | Yes | Negative adverb, Connegative verb | Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, Interrogative verbal mood | Yes | This is a test | This is a test | This is a test | |
3 | 7/30/2014 4:31:35 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | From nucleus: /sgavt/ → /zgavd/ | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 2 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Specific temporal tenses (e.g. hesternal = yesterday, hodiurnal = today, crastinal = tomorrow, etc.) | Absolute | Energetic, Declarative, Subjunctive, Conditional, Imperative, Desiderative, Hypothetical, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Continuous, Progressive, Habitual, Gnomic and episodic | Yes | Yes | Yes | After | Agree | Yes | 10/16/2014 | aa ee ii oo uu yy | 4 | Yes | Yes | Negative adverb, Affix | Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, Interrogative verbal mood | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Try to come up with roots manually, but to make this easier computers can be used. | Loanwords, names for local things etc. should be part of the language. | ||
4 | 7/30/2014 5:13:03 | Voicing assimilation | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/ | 5 | 5 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 1 | Human (with gender-marked words), animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future, Specific temporal tenses (e.g. hesternal = yesterday, hodiurnal = today, crastinal = tomorrow, etc.) | Absolute | Declarative, Conditional, Optative, Jussive, Potential, Imperative, Desiderative, Dubitative, Hypothetical, Permissive, Mirative, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Perfect, Continuous, Progressive, Stative, Habitual, Gnomic and episodic, Continuative, Inchoative, Terminative, Defective, Intentional and accidental, Intensive | Yes | Yes | Yes | After | Indeclinable | No | 4 | ā ē ī ō ū ȳ | 4 | Yes | Yes | Consonant mutation | Interrogative verbal mood | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Initial and main world list with fundamental words should be generated either at random or by the mods of the Proto lang. Then later, people can be assigned 30 (aprox.) meanings each and made to assign the sounds to them. We make a a thread and compile all the results. Maybe it could be weekly? I'd be up for making large amounts of words. Maybe ask for other people who ar eup for the task? | Personally, I don't want to much influence because the intentions of my daughter languages are for personal projects. But a minimum of simple culture behind the language (at least in the proto phase) is necessary. | keep up the awesome work! Can't wait to see this fruit! | |
5 | 7/30/2014 5:27:17 | Place of articulation restrictions, Strict sonority hierarchy | From nucleus: /sgavt/ → /zgavd/ | 3 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 5 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Human (with gender-marked words), animate, inanimate, abstract, Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future, Specific temporal tenses (e.g. hesternal = yesterday, hodiurnal = today, crastinal = tomorrow, etc.) | Both | Energetic, Declarative, Conditional, Optative, Potential, Imperative, Dubitative, Permissive, Mirative, Hortative, Precative, Volitive, Inferential, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Momentane, Continuous, Progressive, Habitual, Inceptive, Terminative, Pausative, Resumptive, Experiential, Intentional and accidental, Intensive, Moderative and attenuative | Yes | Yes | Yes | After | Agree | Yes | IPA, 7 | ā ē ī ō ū ȳ | 2/4/2014 | No | Yes | Affix | Interrogative verbal mood | No, leave that up to the daugthters | I don't know... | Not too much (leave that up to the daughter languages), but a little bit of influence to be realistic. | ||
6 | 7/30/2014 6:00:52 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/, To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 5 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 5 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 5 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Human (with gender-marked words), animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Specific temporal tenses (e.g. hesternal = yesterday, hodiurnal = today, crastinal = tomorrow, etc.) | Relative | Declarative, Subjunctive, Imperative, Interrogative | Perfect | Yes | Yes | Yes | After | Agree | No | IPA, 8 | ā ē ī ō ū ȳ | 4 | Yes | Yes | Affix | Interrogative particle, A-not-A | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Maybe after a large amount of words are generated, you could put them in a publicly editable google docs spreadsheet and close he spreadsheet after a certain amount of time. and any contention could be brought up on the reddit itself. Any words that aren't assigned meanings initially could be recycled later or just destroyed I guess. | Nah, not yet. | ||
7 | 7/30/2014 6:07:06 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 5 | Human (with gender-marked words), animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future, Specific temporal tenses (e.g. hesternal = yesterday, hodiurnal = today, crastinal = tomorrow, etc.) | Relative | Declarative, Subjunctive, Conditional, Optative, Potential, Imperative, Desiderative, Hortative, Precative, Volitive | Perfective, Imperfective, Momentane, Perfect, Prospective, Continuous, Progressive, Stative, Habitual, Iterative, Frequentative | Yes | No | No | Before | Agree | Yes | IPA | ā ē ī ō ū ȳ | 4 | Yes | Yes | Affix, Vowel mutation | A-not-A | Yes | . | . | ||
8 | 7/30/2014 6:14:59 | Voicing assimilation | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/ | 3 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future | Relative | Declarative, Subjunctive, Conditional, Optative, Imperative, Hypothetical, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Continuous, Progressive, Stative, Habitual, Gnomic and episodic, Continuative, Inceptive, Pausative, Resumptive, Frequentative, Intentional and accidental, Intensive | Yes | Yes | Yes | After | Agree | Yes | 2/15/2014 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, ā ē ī ō ū ȳ | 3/4/2014 | No | Yes | Affix, Consonant mutation, Vowel mutation | Word order, Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, Interrogative verbal mood, Intonation | Yes | Threads and voting. | Very. It will determine whether we have words for certain things or not, as well as the degree of irregularity (if we have that), as well as cultural references that may solidify into the daughters' grammar. It will determine some of how the temporal adpositions form in the daughter languages, and will profoundly affect what words are used frequently enough to become irregular in the daughters. | :) | |
9 | 7/30/2014 6:15:57 | Voicing assimilation, Strict sonority hierarchy, Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | From nucleus: /sgavt/ → /zgavd/ | 4 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 4 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture) | Recent past and remote past | Absolute | Subjunctive, Conditional, Optative, Potential, Imperative, Permissive, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Continuous, Stative, Habitual, Gnomic and episodic, Inchoative, Terminative, Defective, Pausative, Intentional and accidental | No | No | No | After | Agree | No | 7 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, ā ē ī ō ū ȳ, ä ë ï ö ü ÿ | 3 | Yes | Yes | Negative adverb | Interrogative particle, Interrogative verbal mood | No, leave that up to the daugthters | - | - | ||
10 | 7/30/2014 6:23:10 | Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/ | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past | Relative | Conditional, Jussive, Imperative, Hypothetical, Hortative | Perfective, Imperfective, Habitual, Inchoative | Yes | No | Yes | Before | Indeclinable | No | 6, 9, 13, 16 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, ā ē ī ō ū ȳ, á é í ó ú ý, à è ì ò ù ỳ | 3 | No | Yes | Negative adverb, Affix | Intonation | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Tell a person to make 50-100 words. Each person would then either make or generate the words along with meanings and put them into the lexicon. If we have words that we like, but don't have meanings for them, we'll just have people give them meanings. When they make the words, they should also include etymology if they take vocab from another language. | I personally don't like the idea of the conworld, so I'm not going to mess with it. As long as it waits until after the protolang is made, I'll be fine. | no hot bread? :( | |
11 | 7/30/2014 6:29:49 | Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/ | 5 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 4 | Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is, Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Near future and remote future | Relative | Energetic, Declarative, Conditional, Jussive, Dubitative, Precative, Interrogative | Momentane, Continuous, Progressive, Habitual | Yes | Yes | Yes | After | Indeclinable | Yes, No | 3/16/2017 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, ā ē ī ō ū ȳ | 3 | No | Yes | Negative adverb, Affix | Word order, Interrogative particle, Intonation | Yes | Let people take a section of vocabulary to generate, and let them decide whether they want to use a word generator or craft them by hand. | I'd prefer if it was only affecting it in terms of things like animals and plants. Getting too far into culture-building is, I think, outside the scope of what this project should do... it'd be a distraction. So I think culture- or species-specific things should be ignored. Assume the speakers are more-or-less humanoid, that they don't have any kind of specific magic abilities, whatever. That way, it's generic enough that the daughter langs can do whatever they want. | ||
12 | 7/30/2014 6:54:43 | Voicing assimilation, Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/ | 5 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 2 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture) | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future | Relative | Conditional, Optative, Imperative, Interrogative | Progressive, Stative, Habitual, Inceptive, Terminative | Yes | Yes | No | After | Indeclinable | No | 4 | aa ee ii oo uu yy | 4 | No | Yes | Affix | Interrogative verbal mood | Yes | Well, I think it might be hard to have human generated roots if we're going to stick to the probabilities for each word. | I think the conworld should affect the language only through the lexicon. | ||
13 | 7/30/2014 7:27:23 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/ | 3 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | Animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | None | Relative | Subjunctive, Conditional, Imperative | Perfective, Imperfective, Progressive | No | Yes | Yes | Before | Indeclinable | No | 16 | aa ee ii oo uu yy | 3 | No | No | Affix | Word order, Intonation | Yes | Generate the roots using a generator, give them random meanings (based on whatever the most common words would be for the time period), then combine them for complex words. | It should work in the same way as real life. | ||
14 | 7/30/2014 7:28:11 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 4 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | Animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future | Relative | Energetic, Conditional, Imperative, Interrogative | Perfective, Perfect, Prospective, Continuous, Progressive, Continuative, Terminative, Defective, Punctual and durative | No | Yes | Yes | After | Agree | Yes | 2 | ä ë ï ö ü ÿ | 4 | Yes | Yes | Affix | Intonation | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Generate a word to use as a root,then human-generate words based off of that root. | Not very much, but a little. | ||
15 | 7/30/2014 7:31:51 | Voicing assimilation, Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/ | 5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | Masculine, feminine, human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future | Both | Declarative, Subjunctive, Conditional, Optative, Mirative, Hortative, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Perfect, Progressive, Stative, Habitual | Yes | Yes | No | After | Agree | Yes | 8 | ā ē ī ō ū ȳ, á é í ó ú ý | 4 | Yes | Yes | Affix | Interrogative affix, Intonation | Yes | :/ | :/ | :/ | |
16 | 7/30/2014 7:41:20 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/, From nucleus: /sgavt/ → /zgavd/ | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 3 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Human (with gender-marked words), animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture) | None | Absolute | Conditional, Potential, Imperative, Hortative, Volitive, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Momentane, Perfect, Prospective, Continuous, Progressive, Stative, Habitual, Gnomic and episodic, Continuative, Inceptive, Inchoative, Terminative, Defective, Pausative, Resumptive, Punctual and durative, Delimitative, Protractive, Iterative, Frequentative, Experiential, Intentional and accidental, Intensive, Moderative and attenuative | No | Yes | Yes | After | Agree | Yes | 2/7/2014 | aː eː iː oː uː yː, ā ē ī ō ū ȳ, á é í ó ú ý | 3/4/2014 | No | Yes | Connegative verb, Consonant mutation, Vowel mutation | Interrogative verbal mood | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Make a list of lexemes that need to be translated and divvy it up between participants. Ideally we'd have a generator online that people can use to generate words, or they can make them manually. We could just generate a big list of possible words for people to pick from, but that might result in a lot of homophones as it wouldn't be surprising for people to gravitate towards the same words. | Leave possible interaction with the conworld to the daughters. | ||
17 | 7/30/2014 8:01:59 | Voicing exclusivity, Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/, Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/, From nucleus: /sgavt/ → /zgavd/, To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 1 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | Masculine, feminine, human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | None | Relative | Subjunctive, Conditional, Imperative, Dubitative, Hypothetical, Interrogative | Imperfective, Perfect | Yes, No | Yes | Yes | After | Indeclinable | No | 16 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, A E I O U Y | 3/4/2014 | Yes | Yes | Negative adverb, Affix | Interrogative particle | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Mostly generated roots with assigned meaning | Well, this is a proto-language so I think the conworld won't have much effect on it as it will the daughter languages. | ||
18 | 7/30/2014 8:04:02 | Voicing assimilation, Strict sonority hierarchy, Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/, To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 5 | 5 | 1 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture) | None | Both | Subjunctive, Optative, Imperative | Perfective, Imperfective, Perfect, Stative | Yes | Yes | No | After | Agree | Yes, No | 4/7/2012 | ā ē ī ō ū ȳ | 3 | No | No | Negative adverb, Affix | Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, Intonation | Yes | As random as possible for content words, with some careful consideration for function words. | Should just be an alternate Earth, say with our Proto-language in place of Proto-Indo-European. Other conlangs can be included as unrelated languages from which people may influence their daughter languages. | ||
19 | 7/30/2014 8:25:05 | Voicing exclusivity | From nucleus: /sgavt/ → /zgavd/ | 5 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 1 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 5 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 5 | Animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Specific temporal tenses (e.g. hesternal = yesterday, hodiurnal = today, crastinal = tomorrow, etc.) | Absolute, Both | Conditional, Imperative, Interrogative | Continuous | Yes | Yes | Yes | After | Indeclinable | Yes | 8 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, ā ē ī ō ū ȳ, ä ë ï ö ü ÿ, α ε ι ω υ ύ, a- e- i- o- u- y-, a~ e~ i~ o~ u~ y~ | 3 | No | Yes | Negative adverb, Affix, Consonant mutation, Vowel mutation | Word order, Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix | Yes | Make compound words with the roots. | Where the people live and how the daughter languages came from the proto language. | ||
20 | 7/30/2014 8:40:21 | Voicing assimilation, Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/, From nucleus: /sgavt/ → /zgavd/ | 3 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 3 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Human (with gender-marked words), animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Specific temporal tenses (e.g. hesternal = yesterday, hodiurnal = today, crastinal = tomorrow, etc.) | Relative | Energetic, Conditional, Optative, Imperative, Mirative, Hortative, Interrogative | Perfect, Progressive, Intentional and accidental, Moderative and attenuative | Yes, No | No | Yes | After | Indeclinable | Yes | 2/4/2017 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, ā ē ī ō ū ȳ | 2/4/2014 | Yes | No | Negative adverb, Affix, Vowel mutation | Interrogative particle, A-not-A, Intonation | Yes | I would say generate a block of words (say, 50) and pass that into some sort of anonymous mailbox where it is sent to a random person and they assign meaning to the words. A problem with this could be synonyms, but these necessarily wouldn't be bad if they could be controlled a little. To control overlap we could assign to individuals a list of translations shorter than the block of words, leaving some creative wiggle room. | I really like the suggestion of a nondescript archipelago with small islands. This could leave room for newcomers later in the game and allows for people to scratch the conworld itch if they feel so by allowing them to design their own island, but not the system of islands. | I understand that the delays are unintentional and unpredicatable, but it may be quelling the zeal and excitement of some participants. Other than that, thanks for taking the time to organize and lead our little project! | |
21 | 7/30/2014 8:51:16 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 4 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 2 | Animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | None | Relative | Declarative, Conditional, Optative, Imperative, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Gnomic and episodic | Yes | Yes | No | After | Agree | Yes | 2 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, ah eh ih oh uh yh | 3 | No | Yes | Negative adverb, Connegative verb | Word order, Interrogative verbal mood | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Have somebody generate words then post some sort of vote with suggested meanings. | I think that it's effect shouldn't be too great. There will be disagreements if the conworld has too much influence. | Good luck and kzokadzy afjo | |
22 | 7/30/2014 8:53:17 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 | Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future | Relative | Conditional, Optative, Jussive, Potential, Imperative, Hortative, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Progressive, Inceptive, Intentional and accidental | Yes | Yes | Yes | After | Indeclinable | No | 7 | á é í ó ú ý | 3/4/2014 | Yes | Yes | Affix | Interrogative particle, Interrogative verbal mood | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Contest-mode threads with word suggestions | I think that things that are important in the con-world should be some of the only words with slight irregularity. For example, if the civilization is on a huge river, then "water" and "river" might should show some precursors of language-wide phonological shifts (not of the kind that each of the daughter languages will experience independently, but something that the proto-language will experience across the board, I suppose similarly to the great vowel shift). | ||
23 | 7/30/2014 9:30:02 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/ | 4 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 5 | 1 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 2 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future, Specific temporal tenses (e.g. hesternal = yesterday, hodiurnal = today, crastinal = tomorrow, etc.) | Relative | Energetic, Declarative, Conditional, Jussive, Imperative, Desiderative, Hypothetical, Permissive, Inferential, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Perfect, Prospective, Continuous, Progressive, Habitual, Gnomic and episodic, Inceptive, Experiential, Intentional and accidental | No | Yes | Yes | After | Agree | No | 16 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, ā ē ī ō ū ȳ, á é í ó ú ý, à è ì ò ù ỳ, ä ë ï ö ü ÿ | 2/3/2014 | No | Yes | Affix, Vowel mutation | Word order, Interrogative particle, Interrogative verbal mood, Intonation | No, leave that up to the daugthters | N/A | N/A | ||
24 | 7/30/2014 10:15:53 | None; leave that to the daughter languages, Voicing assimilation | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/ | 3 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 4 | Masculine, feminine, human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture) | None | Both | Conditional, Imperative, Interrogative | Perfect, Intentional and accidental | Yes | Yes | Yes | After | Agree | No | 15 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, ā ē ī ō ū ȳ, á é í ó ú ý, à è ì ò ù ỳ | 3 | Yes | No | Affix, Vowel mutation | Interrogative particle, Interrogative verbal mood, Intonation | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Generated roots with human-assigned meanings :) The problem with 100%-human-created words is that they most likely abolish the consonant and vowel frequencies and are not random enough :) | Please don't make the conworld affect the language too much. It will just be a pain in the ass and restrict the creativity of the creators of the daughter languages. It also will be a good reason to make the con-community migrate far from the original conworld :PP | I love this project, it will be really awesome to see all the daughter languages :)) | |
25 | 7/30/2014 10:17:53 | Voicing assimilation, Place of articulation restrictions | To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture) | Recent past and remote past | Relative | Energetic, Subjunctive, Conditional, Optative, Jussive, Potential, Desiderative, Dubitative, Mirative, Hortative, Eventive, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Prospective, Gnomic and episodic, Pausative, Resumptive, Iterative, Frequentative, Intentional and accidental | Yes | No | Yes | Before, After | Indeclinable | Yes | IPA, 9, 16 | aa ee ii oo uu yy | 2/3/2014 | Yes | Yes | Consonant mutation, Vowel mutation | Interrogative verbal mood, Intonation | Yes | google doc | vocabulary. if its a low-tech world, there shouldn't be a word for cellphone. | ||
26 | 7/30/2014 11:14:55 | Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 2 | Human (with gender-marked words), animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future | Both | Subjunctive, Conditional, Imperative, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Perfect, Continuous, Progressive, Habitual | No | Yes | Yes | Before | Indeclinable | No | 16 | aa ee ii oo uu yy | 3 | No | Yes | Affix | Interrogative particle | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Generate roots first, assign them meanings, and then create words from there. | Perhaps it'll affect the languages in terms of geography. | ||
27 | 7/30/2014 11:27:57 | Voicing assimilation | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/ | 3 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | None, Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future, Specific temporal tenses (e.g. hesternal = yesterday, hodiurnal = today, crastinal = tomorrow, etc.) | Both | Energetic, Declarative, Subjunctive, Conditional, Optative, Jussive, Potential, Imperative, Desiderative, Dubitative, Hypothetical, Permissive, Mirative, Hortative, Eventive, Precative, Volitive, Inferential, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Momentane, Perfect, Prospective, Continuous, Progressive, Stative, Habitual, Gnomic and episodic, Continuative, Inceptive, Inchoative, Terminative, Defective, Pausative, Resumptive, Punctual and durative, Delimitative, Protractive, Iterative, Frequentative, Experiential, Intentional and accidental, Intensive, Moderative and attenuative | Yes | Yes | Yes | After | Agree | Yes | 13 | aa ee ii oo uu yy | 3 | Yes | Yes | Negative adverb, Affix, Connegative verb, Consonant mutation, Vowel mutation | Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, Interrogative verbal mood | Yes | idunno | i have decided that i'll make 2 daughter-langs, one for my own conworld and one for whatever we come up with, so i'll go with anything | IGOT THE HUSKER APPROVES, also, hiatii (hiatuses?) are not cool :c | |
28 | 7/30/2014 11:50:58 | None; leave that to the daughter languages, Place of articulation restrictions | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/, From nucleus: /sgavt/ → /zgavd/ | 3 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 2 | Animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture) | None | Absolute | Optative, Imperative, Desiderative, Dubitative, Permissive, Volitive, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Progressive, Stative, Habitual, Intentional and accidental | Yes | Yes | Yes | After | Indeclinable | Yes | 17 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, ā ē ī ō ū ȳ | 3 | No | Yes | Vowel mutation | Word order, Intonation | No, leave that up to the daugthters | I think the latter should represent only a slight percentage of the total vocabulary, for example the roots. | In real life, the surroundings, climate and height of the language's area have great influences on the conlang itself. For example, I think that the dialects or daughter languages spoken in mountainous areas should have less fricatives, and more plosives or affricates, because shouting fricatives from top to top won't work very well. | This project will be ruined if long vowels are written in CAPITALS | |
29 | 7/30/2014 12:03:26 | Voicing assimilation | From nucleus: /sgavt/ → /zgavd/ | 2 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 4 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture) | None | Relative | Conditional, Imperative, Desiderative, Hortative, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Continuous, Habitual, Inceptive, Inchoative, Terminative, Frequentative | Yes | Yes | No | Before | Indeclinable | No | IPA, 1, 9 | ā ē ī ō ū ȳ | 3 | No | Yes | Negative adverb, Affix, Connegative verb | Interrogative particle, Interrogative verbal mood | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Generate the root words and assign meaning to them and then allow related words to be derived from the roots. | For the most part vocabulary will be the only part of the language affected by the conworld. Cultural terms, foods, animals, weather phenomena, etc. will be affected based on how the conworld functions. A tropical environment might not have a word for snow or ice, or may have those words derived from "mountain" or "high up" or something to that effect. Similarly a temperate environment likely wouldn't have words for hurricanes, tsunami, etc. | ||
30 | 7/30/2014 12:19:32 | Voicing assimilation, Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/ | 2 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 1 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past | Relative | Subjunctive, Jussive, Imperative | Perfective, Imperfective, Perfect, Progressive, Habitual | Yes | Yes | Yes | Before, After | Indeclinable | No | 16 | á é í ó ú ý | 4 | No | Yes | Negative adverb | Interrogative particle, Intonation | Yes, No, leave that up to the daugthters | Stick with a generator, otherwise you risk dealing with people not like each others words. | Definitely consider the environment. If the people live in the forest, they might have different names for all the kinds of trees. Animals are a similar line. If they've never seen horses (because they might not have them), then the word might just be akin to "big-dog". If they are traders they might all (or mostly) be bilingual, which means there will be lots of borrowing to consider. | ||
31 | 7/30/2014 13:43:45 | Voicing assimilation | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/ | 4 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 1 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 3 | Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future | Both | Energetic, Declarative, Subjunctive, Conditional, Optative, Jussive, Potential, Imperative, Desiderative, Dubitative, Hypothetical, Permissive, Mirative, Hortative, Eventive, Precative, Volitive, Inferential, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Perfect, Prospective, Continuous, Progressive, Stative, Habitual, Gnomic and episodic, Continuative, Inceptive, Terminative, Pausative, Resumptive, Frequentative, Experiential, Intentional and accidental, Moderative and attenuative | Yes | Yes | No | Before | Indeclinable | Yes | 8/9/2014 | ā ē ī ō ū ȳ, á é í ó ú ý | 4 | Yes | Yes | Affix | Interrogative affix | No, leave that up to the daugthters | I have no idea. | I've already have said how religion can affect the language (in expressions, etc.). Also, a language developed, say in a desert, wouldn't have words for snow (I don't remember who suggested this one, but they are right). So yeah, some basic conworld aspects are a must. | I chose all moods. Now you know who I am D: | |
32 | 7/30/2014 13:54:49 | Place of articulation restrictions, Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | From nucleus: /sgavt/ → /zgavd/ | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 1 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | None, Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future | Absolute | Declarative, Conditional, Jussive, Hypothetical, Interrogative | Imperfective, Perfect, Continuous, Habitual, Experiential | Yes | Yes | Yes | Before, After | Indeclinable | No | 3, 6, 8, 9, 13, 16 | ä ë ï ö ü ÿ, A E I O U Y | 2/3/2014 | No | Yes | Affix | Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, Interrogative verbal mood, A-not-A, Intonation, No marking | No, leave that up to the daugthters | I'd suggest posting a group of generated words, with the words themselves also posted as top level comments. Then people may suggest definitions for those words as replies. People vote via upvotes and, after a week of voting, the most upvoted definition wins. Any words not defined can either be recycled or dropped from the vocab. For Human generated words, I'd suggest a sign up thread, with deadlines. So, say /u/so-and-so signs up and says that he will post a thread with 20 words and definitions by X date. Of those, people nominate their favorite 10, with the most nominated words entering the lexicon. | Not at all. Personally, I'm against setting anything down about a conworld. Let each of the conlangers decide for themselves how the language is represented for them in their own creations. This should not be a collaborative world building project, that's getting too far into the weeds. | ||
33 | 7/30/2014 13:57:22 | Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/, To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 2 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture) | None | Both | Conditional, Optative, Desiderative, Volitive | Imperfective, Momentane, Gnomic and episodic, Iterative | No | Yes | Yes | After | Agree | Yes | 2, 3, 4, 11 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, ā ē ī ō ū ȳ, á é í ó ú ý | 3/4/2014 | No | Yes | Negative adverb, Affix, Connegative verb | Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, Interrogative verbal mood | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Just let people submit any word form that conforms to the phonology we've decided on, and let them either carefully craft the sounds themselves or use a generator. | At the very least, having a general sense of local environment for producing roots relating to animals, plants, and other natural features would be pretty great. | ||
34 | 7/30/2014 14:16:35 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/, To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 4 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 5 | 1 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 5 | 1 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 2 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture) | Recent past and remote past | Absolute | Conditional, Imperative | Perfective | No | No | No | Before | Indeclinable | Yes | 6, 9, 13, 16 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, á é í ó ú ý, ah eh ih oh uh yh, A E I O U Y | 3 | Yes | Yes | Negative adverb, Affix, Connegative verb | Word order, Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, A-not-A, Intonation | Yes | The most commonly-used words (pronouns, kinship terms, and simple verbs like 'to be', 'to have', 'to come', 'to go', 'to stay' etc.) should be completely human-derived. All other words should be generated. | There should be a war over what temperature bread should be baked at to create the perfect loaf. It will be called the 'War of the Toasties', and house Pork will fight for white flour and house Alabastur will fight for red flour! | ||
35 | 7/30/2014 14:31:15 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/ | 2 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 5 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 1 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | None | Both | Declarative, Subjunctive, Conditional, Potential, Imperative, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Habitual, Iterative | No | Yes | Yes | After | Agree | Yes | 13 | ä ë ï ö ü ÿ | 3 | No | Yes | Vowel mutation | Interrogative verbal mood | Yes | no clue. | archipelago sounds cool | keep it coming! | |
36 | 7/30/2014 14:43:08 | Voicing assimilation | To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 3 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | Animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture) | Recent past and remote past | Relative | Subjunctive, Conditional, Potential, Imperative, Hypothetical | Perfect, Progressive, Iterative | Yes | No | No | After | Indeclinable | No | 8 | á é í ó ú ý | 3/4/2014 | No | Yes | Affix, Consonant mutation | Interrogative particle | No, leave that up to the daugthters | It could be too complicated, but an open thread where say two or three suggested roots/meanings are taken and added to a simple poll for voting. So long as the suggested roots sound like they come from the same language, I think it could work. | I don't do much conworlding, so I'm not quite sure. | ||
37 | 7/30/2014 19:14:41 | Voicing assimilation, Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/ | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 3 | Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Near future and remote future | Absolute | Subjunctive, Optative, Imperative, Hypothetical, Permissive, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Stative | Yes | No | Yes | After | Indeclinable | No | IPA, 2, 17 | á é í ó ú ý, à è ì ò ù ỳ | 3 | No | Yes | Affix, Consonant mutation | Interrogative particle, Intonation | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Produce a list of, say 100 words, and present them to the group. Whoever creates a definition for a word first, that word's definition becomes the one suggest by that person. | I'm going to go with as little as possible. Let the daughter languages deal and interact with the conworld, | ||
38 | 7/30/2014 19:43:50 | Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | From nucleus: /sgavt/ → /zgavd/ | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 4 | Human (with gender-marked words), animate, inanimate, abstract, Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future, Specific temporal tenses (e.g. hesternal = yesterday, hodiurnal = today, crastinal = tomorrow, etc.) | Both | Energetic, Declarative, Subjunctive, Conditional, Jussive, Potential, Imperative, Hypothetical, Eventive, Volitive, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Perfect, Prospective, Continuous, Progressive, Continuative, Terminative, Punctual and durative, Delimitative, Iterative, Experiential, Intensive, Moderative and attenuative | No | Yes | Yes | After | Agree | Yes | IPA | α ε ι ω υ ύ | 4 | Yes | Yes | Negative adverb | Word order | Yes | M | M | ||
39 | 7/30/2014 20:01:57 | Voicing assimilation, Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/, Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/, To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 5 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 3 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Human (with gender-marked words), animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past | Both | Energetic, Declarative, Subjunctive, Conditional, Optative, Jussive, Potential, Imperative, Desiderative, Dubitative, Hypothetical, Permissive, Mirative, Hortative, Eventive, Precative, Volitive, Inferential, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Momentane, Perfect, Prospective, Continuous, Progressive, Stative, Habitual, Gnomic and episodic, Continuative, Inceptive, Inchoative, Terminative, Defective, Pausative, Resumptive, Punctual and durative, Delimitative, Protractive, Iterative, Frequentative, Experiential, Intentional and accidental, Intensive, Moderative and attenuative | Yes | Yes | Yes | Before | Indeclinable | Yes | 2/7/2015 | ā ē ī ō ū ȳ, á é í ó ú ý, à è ì ò ù ỳ, ä ë ï ö ü ÿ, α ε ι ω υ ύ | 3/4/2014 | No | Yes | Negative adverb, Affix, Connegative verb | Word order, Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, Interrogative verbal mood | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Have category threads wherein a word/words are submitted in comments, and definitions are chosen by highest-voted reply. | This should be open ended, make the conworld description as general as possible. | ||
40 | 7/30/2014 21:41:23 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/, From nucleus: /sgavt/ → /zgavd/, To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 2 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 1 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 3 | Human (with gender-marked words), animate, inanimate, abstract, Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future, Specific temporal tenses (e.g. hesternal = yesterday, hodiurnal = today, crastinal = tomorrow, etc.) | Both | Subjunctive, Conditional, Optative, Imperative, Hypothetical, Permissive, Inferential, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Perfect, Habitual | Yes | Yes | Yes | Before | Agree | Yes | IPA | aː eː iː oː uː yː | 4 | No | Yes | Affix | Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, Interrogative verbal mood | Yes | Come up with a list of generated roots every so often and have people vote on possible meanings. | Possibly attach a conculture that changes with the daughters. | ||
41 | 7/30/2014 22:25:16 | None; leave that to the daughter languages, Voicing assimilation, Strict sonority hierarchy | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/, To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 3 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 4 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes, No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture) | Near future and remote future | Relative | Energetic, Optative, Jussive, Imperative, Desiderative, Mirative, Volitive, Inferential, Interrogative | Perfective, Perfect, Prospective, Stative, Gnomic and episodic, Terminative, Punctual and durative, Protractive, Frequentative, Experiential, Intensive, Moderative and attenuative | No | No | Yes | Before | Indeclinable | Yes, No | 5/13/2016 | aː eː iː oː uː yː, aa ee ii oo uu yy, α ε ι ω υ ύ | 2/4/2014 | No | Yes | Affix, Consonant mutation | Interrogative affix, A-not-A, Intonation | No, leave that up to the daugthters | A spreadsheet on Google docs that people can either make suggestions in or comment on (but not directly edit). | Only a little. The people of the conworld need to be aspiring towards a great revelation, and so the language will make it easy to have philosophical and meaningful discussion. (This is just my input of course.) | ||
42 | 7/30/2014 23:12:27 | None; leave that to the daughter languages, Strict sonority hierarchy, Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/ | 2 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 1 | Masculine, feminine, i·umën, animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture) | Recent past and remote past | Relative | Energetic, Conditional, Imperative, Hypothetical, Permissive, Volitive, Interrogative | Perfect, Habitual, Inceptive, Intensive | Yes | No | Yes | Before, After | Indeclinable | Yes | 1, 7, 8, 17 | aː eː iː oː uː yː, aa ee ii oo uu yy, ā ē ī ō ū ȳ, a- e- i- o- u- y- | 4 | No | Yes | Vowel mutation | Interrogative particle | Yes | Word generation can be handled by "gen" (on Zompist). Then, we create lots of sample sentences and simply pull from the list whenever new meanings are needed. | Quite a lot actually; at the very least words that describe the world would have to refer to the world. Perhaps the world might be a Capsica (a very hot world with two-tone plants) – then all the plants would have two subdivisions for their leaf colour. Grammar-wise it's not unthinkable to have a human-like thinking too, so that shouldn't be affected all that much. So the differences would mainly be lexical. | ||
43 | 7/30/2014 23:48:50 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/ | 5 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 1 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future, Specific temporal tenses (e.g. hesternal = yesterday, hodiurnal = today, crastinal = tomorrow, etc.) | Both | Energetic, Declarative, Optative, Jussive, Imperative, Hypothetical, Mirative, Volitive | Perfective, Imperfective, Perfect, Prospective, Continuous, Progressive, Stative, Habitual, Continuative, Inchoative, Terminative, Defective, Punctual and durative, Protractive, Frequentative, Experiential, Intentional and accidental, Moderative and attenuative | No | No | No | After | Indeclinable | No | 8, 9, 13, 14, 16 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, á é í ó ú ý | 3/4/2014 | Yes | Yes | Affix, Consonant mutation | Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, A-not-A, Intonation | Yes | Make a list of words alike the Swadesh list. Half of them will be generated by a machine, the other half by humans. In an open thread (not voting) we discuss what we like and dislike and we come to consensus. Or something along these lines. | No idea. | hi | |
44 | 7/31/2014 7:11:01 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/ | 5 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | Human (with gender-marked words), animate, inanimate, abstract, Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | None | Both | Energetic, Declarative, Subjunctive, Conditional, Optative, Jussive, Potential, Imperative, Desiderative, Dubitative, Hypothetical, Permissive, Mirative, Hortative, Eventive, Precative, Volitive, Inferential, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Momentane, Perfect, Prospective, Continuous, Progressive, Stative, Habitual, Continuative, Inceptive, Inchoative, Terminative, Defective, Resumptive, Delimitative, Protractive, Iterative, Frequentative, Experiential, Intentional and accidental, Intensive | No | Yes | Yes | After | Agree | Yes | 13 | aa ee ii oo uu yy | 3 | Yes | Yes | Negative adverb, Affix, Connegative verb, Consonant mutation, Vowel mutation | Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, Interrogative verbal mood | Yes | discussion threads maybe | no strong opinions | ||
45 | 7/31/2014 9:09:28 | Voicing assimilation, Place of articulation restrictions, Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/, From nucleus: /sgavt/ → /zgavd/ | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future, Specific temporal tenses (e.g. hesternal = yesterday, hodiurnal = today, crastinal = tomorrow, etc.) | Both | Energetic, Declarative, Subjunctive, Conditional, Optative, Jussive, Potential, Imperative, Desiderative, Dubitative, Hypothetical, Permissive, Mirative, Hortative, Eventive, Precative, Volitive, Inferential, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Momentane, Perfect, Prospective, Continuous, Progressive, Stative, Habitual, Gnomic and episodic, Continuative, Inceptive, Inchoative, Terminative, Defective, Pausative, Resumptive, Punctual and durative, Delimitative, Protractive, Iterative, Frequentative, Experiential, Intentional and accidental, Intensive, Moderative and attenuative | No | Yes | No | Before | Indeclinable | Yes | 6, 8, 9, 13, 14 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, á é í ó ú ý | 3/4/2014 | Yes | Yes | Negative adverb, Affix, Connegative verb, Consonant mutation, Vowel mutation | Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, Interrogative verbal mood, A-not-A, Intonation, No marking | No, leave that up to the daugthters | keine ahnung | keine ahnung | keine ahnung | |
46 | 7/31/2014 12:12:24 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/, Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/, From nucleus: /sgavt/ → /zgavd/, To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 4 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 1 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Specific temporal tenses (e.g. hesternal = yesterday, hodiurnal = today, crastinal = tomorrow, etc.) | Both | Energetic, Declarative, Subjunctive, Conditional, Optative, Jussive, Potential, Imperative, Desiderative, Dubitative, Hypothetical, Permissive, Mirative, Hortative, Eventive, Precative, Volitive, Inferential, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Momentane, Perfect, Prospective, Continuous, Progressive, Stative, Habitual, Gnomic and episodic, Continuative, Inceptive, Inchoative, Terminative, Defective, Pausative, Resumptive, Punctual and durative, Delimitative, Protractive, Iterative, Frequentative, Experiential, Intentional and accidental, Intensive, Moderative and attenuative | No | No | Yes | After | Indeclinable | Yes | 1/9/2016 | á é í ó ú ý, α ε ι ω υ ύ | 2/3/2004 | No | Yes | Consonant mutation, Vowel mutation | Interrogative particle, Interrogative verbal mood, Intonation | Yes | Have one person at a time be assigned an amount of words; have a dictionary so there isnt any repeat definitions. | It shouldnt affect it; it should be a group of islands and specific conditions should be decided by island owner | ||
47 | 7/31/2014 12:34:06 | Voicing assimilation, Voicing exclusivity, Place of articulation restrictions, Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/ | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture) | None | Relative | Conditional, Optative, Jussive, Potential, Imperative, Desiderative, Dubitative, Hypothetical, Permissive, Mirative, Volitive, Inferential, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Continuous, Progressive, Stative, Habitual, Continuative, Inchoative, Terminative, Iterative, Frequentative, Intentional and accidental | Yes | Yes | Yes | Before | Indeclinable | Yes | 5/7/2011 | ā ē ī ō ū ȳ, á é í ó ú ý, ä ë ï ö ü ÿ | 4 | No | Yes | Consonant mutation | Interrogative particle, Interrogative verbal mood, Intonation | Yes | Create a spreadsheet to which users can contribute. | A lot, and in obvious ways. | ||
48 | 7/31/2014 13:01:42 | None; leave that to the daughter languages, Voicing assimilation | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/ | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 3 | Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Mixed b12-b24 | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | None | Both | Energetic, Declarative, Subjunctive, Conditional, Optative, Jussive, Potential, Imperative, Desiderative, Dubitative, Hypothetical, Permissive, Mirative, Hortative, Eventive, Precative, Volitive, Inferential, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Momentane, Perfect, Prospective, Continuous, Progressive, Stative, Habitual, Gnomic and episodic, Continuative, Inceptive, Inchoative, Terminative, Defective, Pausative, Resumptive, Punctual and durative, Delimitative, Protractive, Iterative, Frequentative, Experiential, Intentional and accidental, Intensive, Moderative and attenuative | Yes, No | Yes | Yes | After | Agree | Yes | 13 | aa ee ii oo uu yy | 4 | Yes | Yes | Negative adverb | Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, Interrogative verbal mood | Yes | no comment | no comment | no comment | |
49 | 7/31/2014 13:48:38 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/ | 3 | 4 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 1 | 2 | Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | None | Absolute | Subjunctive, Optative, Potential, Imperative, Hypothetical, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Perfect, Progressive, Stative | Yes | No | Yes | After | Indeclinable | No | IPA, 17 | á é í ó ú ý, à è ì ò ù ỳ | 4 | Yes | Yes | Consonant mutation | Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, Intonation | Yes | IDK | IDK | ||
50 | 7/31/2014 18:37:19 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 3 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 | Animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture) | Recent past and remote past | Absolute | Subjunctive, Conditional, Optative, Jussive, Potential, Imperative, Permissive, Volitive, Interrogative | Perfect, Progressive | No | Yes | Yes | Before | Indeclinable | No | 16 | aa ee ii oo uu yy | 3 | Yes | Yes | Negative adverb | Interrogative particle | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Word generator and a group of devoted people to determine meaning. | Undecided. | ||
51 | 7/31/2014 18:52:25 | Voicing assimilation | Retrograde: /sgavt/ → /zgaft/, Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/ | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 2 | Masc-human, fem-human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Specific temporal tenses (e.g. hesternal = yesterday, hodiurnal = today, crastinal = tomorrow, etc.) | Relative, Absolute, Both | Declarative, Conditional, Imperative, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Progressive, Terminative, Iterative | Yes | No | Yes | Before | Agree | Yes | 13, 16 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, ā ē ī ō ū ȳ, á é í ó ú ý, à è ì ò ù ỳ | 3 | Yes | Yes | Negative adverb, Affix, Connegative verb | Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, Interrogative verbal mood | Yes | Use a wordgen and assign meanings. If people add vocabulary, consider that too. | The culture of the conworld should decide which words are simpler to express and which are more difficult or complicated. | ||
52 | 7/31/2014 19:38:44 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 4 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 2 | Masculine, feminine, human, animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | Yes | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | None | Both | Subjunctive, Conditional, Imperative, Interrogative | Perfective, Imperfective, Continuous, Progressive, Habitual, Continuative, Inceptive, Inchoative, Terminative, Iterative, Frequentative, Intensive | Yes | No | No | Before, After | Agree | No | 14 | aa ee ii oo uu yy | 4 | Yes | Yes | Negative adverb | Interrogative particle, Interrogative verbal mood | No, leave that up to the daugthters | I don't know. | I'm not sure. | ||
53 | 7/31/2014 20:22:20 | None; leave that to the daughter languages | To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future, Specific temporal tenses (e.g. hesternal = yesterday, hodiurnal = today, crastinal = tomorrow, etc.) | Absolute | Declarative, Subjunctive, Conditional, Jussive, Imperative, Permissive, Inferential, Interrogative | Perfective, Continuous, Habitual, Intentional and accidental | Yes | Yes | Yes | Before, After | Indeclinable | Yes | 6/13/2014 | aa ee ii oo uu yy, á é í ó ú ý, à è ì ò ù ỳ, ä ë ï ö ü ÿ | 3/4/2014 | No | Yes | Negative adverb, Affix, Connegative verb | Word order, Interrogative particle, Interrogative verbal mood | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Post a word generation thread that has a broad theme (e.g. one thread for types of terrain, one for animals, one for abstract concepts). A bunch of generated words are posted to the thread and people can comment on them with suggested meanings. People can also post their own words for others to generate meanings for. | It should be as separate from the language as possible. | Keep up the awesome work salpfish and thats_a_sempahor! | |
54 | 8/1/2014 5:44:51 | Voicing assimilation, Voicing exclusivity, Strict sonority hierarchy, Ban specific consonants from appearing in certain cluster types | Prograde: /sgavt/ → /skavd/, To nucleus: /sgavt/ → /skaft/ | 3 | 5 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 5 | Human, animate, inanimate, abstract, Human (with gender-marked words), animate, inanimate, abstract | Keep it as it is | No | Past, Present (includes nonpast and nonfuture), Future | Recent past and remote past, Near future and remote future | Absolute | Energetic, Declarative, Subjunctive, Conditional, Optative, Jussive, Potential, Imperative, Desiderative, Dubitative, Hypothetical, Permissive, Mirative, Hortative, Eventive, Precative, Volitive, Inferential, Interrogative | Momentane, Perfect, Prospective, Continuous, Progressive, Stative, Habitual, Gnomic and episodic, Continuative, Inceptive, Inchoative, Terminative, Defective, Pausative, Resumptive, Punctual and durative, Delimitative, Protractive, Iterative, Frequentative, Experiential, Intentional and accidental, Intensive, Moderative and attenuative | Yes, No | Yes | Yes | Before | Indeclinable | No | 3 | aː eː iː oː uː yː, ā ē ī ō ū ȳ, á é í ó ú ý, à è ì ò ù ỳ, ä ë ï ö ü ÿ | 4 | No | Yes | Negative adverb, Affix, Connegative verb | Interrogative particle, Interrogative affix, Interrogative verbal mood | No, leave that up to the daugthters | Catergory posts made in the subreddit, commenters post a selection of lexemes they'd like included. Certain people who are responsible for maintaining a google doc with all definitions in reply to each with a set of wordgen outputs (maybe a few more than the proposed lexemes) and the commenter assigns the provided words to the lexemes. Potential for high contributers to invent and define a few words themselves. | I like the archipelago scheme... Not sure of the effects beyond the kind of words included | Nope! Just thanks for your hard work :) | |
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