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dr_dmd11/17/117:59 PMWelcome to #langchat and to our friends at #actfl11 ! Don in Napa - sorry I could not be in Denver to meet you all in person - next year!
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profesorM11/17/118:00 PMI give the ss a time limit to speak, then i eval them. #langchat
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dr_dmd11/17/118:00 PM#langchat #actfl11 Hi Doug! Always good to see you even in NYC!
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SECottrell11/17/118:00 PMWho all is joining us from Denver? #actfl11 Wish I were there :( #langchat
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SECottrell11/17/118:00 PMLike @dr_dmd said, welcome to #langchat. Tonight's topic - classroom management in a communicative classroom
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dr_dmd11/17/118:00 PMTonite's #langchat #actfl11 topic - How can classroom management problems best be overcome in a communicative L2 classroom?
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profesorM11/17/118:01 PMIf ss are presenting, then rest of class takes notes. I ask random ss to report bck. #langchat
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dr_dmd11/17/118:01 PM#langchat #actfl11 good evening to @SECottrell @tmsaue1 and all our friends!
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tmsaue111/17/118:01 PM#langchat good evening from #actfl11!
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SECottrell11/17/118:02 PM@alenord do share! #langchat
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profesorM11/17/118:02 PMRT @dr_dmd: #langchat #actfl11 congrats to @tmsaue1 and @tonitheisen new leaders of @actfl!!!!!!
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alenord11/17/118:02 PM#langchat I have very structured acts and strategies, not many probs
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SECottrell11/17/118:02 PMThat's what it feels like to me - frankly, the 2nd biggest complaint I hear about TPRS is classes get out of control #langchat
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profesorM11/17/118:02 PMBTW how is the conf? #langchat
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dr_dmd11/17/118:02 PM#langchat #actfl11 congrats to @tmsaue1 and @tonitheisen new leaders of @actfl!!!!!!
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SECottrell11/17/118:02 PMSo by 'classroom management' do we mean behavior problems? #langchat
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tmsaue111/17/118:03 PM@SECottrell whose problem is it? #langchat
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dr_dmd11/17/118:03 PM#langchat #actfl11 Our team mate @CalicoTeach - ie Erica Fisher is at the conference - say hi to her and ask about #langchat
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alenord11/17/118:03 PMKnowing they have performance assessments make them more accountable during day to day #langchat
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SECottrell11/17/118:03 PMIn HS I have very motivated students in very small classes (6, 10) but I do have problems in elementary #langchat
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petreepie11/17/118:04 PMwhen doing com. activites provide very clear instructions with a set time to complete them-call on students to share at the end #langchat
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dr_dmd11/17/118:04 PM#langchat My level 1 Fr classes are 36 - lots of management challenges - a bit like herding cats at times! Purrfectly energetic!
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alenord11/17/118:04 PM@SECottrell #langchat I've been writing up the things that are working well here -->http://t.co/ZCuMdRUE
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suarez71200211/17/118:04 PMHi there! k-8 Sp teacher in KY #langchat
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dr_dmd11/17/118:05 PM#langchat They are many but enthusiastic. I have tables of 4 - a nice set up for small groups, projects and conversation.
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jklopp11/17/118:05 PM#langchat I just spend about 10 to 15 min on activities then I change it up
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alenord11/17/118:05 PM@petreepie #langchat And I use an online timer ALL the time!
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dr_dmd11/17/118:06 PM#langchat timers are helpful to keep things focused - I like mine on the Promethean board.
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SECottrell11/17/118:07 PMRT @dr_dmd: #langchat timers are helpful to keep things focused - I like mine on the Promethean board. // I love timers
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suarez71200211/17/118:07 PMwhile teaching inner city high school for 3 years learned that every single minute needs to be planned in class #langchat
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jklopp11/17/118:07 PM#langchat use sounds in class - clapper, horn, bellringer, whistle to change from one activity to the next
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dr_dmd11/17/118:07 PM#langchat Whose problem? It belongs to all the class - ss and me alike! We hold the space together, each one contributes.
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pamwesely11/17/118:07 PMHi all I'm here at #actfl11 with @tmsaue1 @srtag participating in #langchat!
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petreepie11/17/118:07 PMchange up the groups often so they arent always working with their friends/same people #langchat
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petreepie11/17/118:08 PMhave them rotate to different stations, it gets them up and moving and a chance to re-focus #langchat
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SECottrell11/17/118:08 PM@tmsaue1 I think it's a general problem of students not knowing what's expected and teachers not making it clear #langchat
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nnaditz11/17/118:08 PM@dr_dmd #langchat I like "timer plus" on iPad and I phone and my kitchen timer
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dr_dmd11/17/118:08 PM#langchat evening Pam!
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suarez71200211/17/118:08 PM@pamwesely @tmsaue1 @srtag Hi there in Denver! wish I could be there!!!#langchat thanks for all the tweets!!!
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CalicoTeach11/17/118:08 PM#langchat almost to live session Not used to city traffic.
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SECottrell11/17/118:08 PMRT @suarez712002: every single minute needs to be planned in class #langchat AGREED - things fall apart when I don't have a plan
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dr_dmd11/17/118:09 PM#langchat I think it is important that the ss understand they are involved in their own learning as well as that of the whole class.
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nnaditz11/17/118:09 PM@SECottrell @tmsaue1 #langchat my failures are almost always due to sthg I didn't plan thoroughly
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suarez71200211/17/118:09 PMwe need to spend time building good rapport w/students #langchat
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SECottrell11/17/118:09 PMWith my little ones, I have gesture cues to indicate if I want whole-class response or individual (raised hand) #langchat
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WatchKnowLearn11/17/118:09 PMMy entire week is center-based. Groups of 4 rotate every 20 minutes. I flip the light off and on to signal and change. #langchat
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alenord11/17/118:09 PMRT @SECottrell every single minute needs to be planned in class #langchat AGREED - things fall apart when I don't have a plan DOUBLE AGREE
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suarez71200211/17/118:09 PMgood classroom mngmt=clear expectations, transitions very important #langchat
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tmsaue111/17/118:10 PM#langchat how many classroom problems are related to students not knowing expectation?
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pamwesely11/17/118:10 PMOoh some new arrivals at #langchat at #actfl11 they'll pop in soon!
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suarez71200211/17/118:10 PMif you have a challenging class ask administration to observe THAT class and not the class where sts are motivated #langchat
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sraoconnor11/17/118:10 PMSo important RT @suarez712002: we need to spend time building good rapport w/students #langchat
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alenord11/17/118:10 PMRT @dr_dmd: #langchat I think it is important that the ss understand they are involved in their own learnin… (cont) http://t.co/n7L6BKSM
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jklopp11/17/118:10 PM#langchat get the problem kids to talk about themselves in the tl - give troublemakers attention that they want
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profesorM11/17/118:11 PMSometimes i play Spanish music while they are working, whe. The music stops, so do they. #langchat #actfl11
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dr_dmd11/17/118:11 PM#langchat Helpful to learn some activity structures (inside outside circle, for example) and routines, procedures - all agree to keep them
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WatchKnowLearn11/17/118:11 PMMy kids also know, if the lights stay off, it is a no talking zone. Done at the end of centers it seems to calm them down. #langchat
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js_pasaporte11/17/118:11 PMRT @petreepie: have them rotate to different stations, it gets them up and moving and a chance to re-focus #langchat
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SECottrell11/17/118:11 PM@pamwesely yay, the more the merrier :) #langchat
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js_pasaporte11/17/118:11 PMRT @nnaditz: @dr_dmd #langchat I like "timer plus" on iPad and I phone and my kitchen timer #langchat
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alenord11/17/118:11 PMRT @suarez712002: @sraoconnor THIS IS KEY!!! all the time you spend modeling it's going to pay off for the rest of they year!#langchat YES
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Tekkietalk11/17/118:11 PMRT @dr_dmd: Tonite's #langchat "How can classroom management problems best be overcome in a communicative classroom?" 5-6PST/8-9 EST @edutopia #edchat
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alenord11/17/118:11 PMMaybe I am blessed, but I don't have too many problems. The classes that I have who are squirrley just need more challenge #langchat
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suarez71200211/17/118:11 PM@sraoconnor THIS IS KEY!!! all the time you spend modeling it's going to pay off for the rest of they year!#langchat
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SECottrell11/17/118:12 PMSo how do we regularly reinforce what our expectations are? #langchat
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nnaditz11/17/118:12 PM@tmsaue1 #langchat in my personal experience, I would say most are; or not clearly understanding expectation (which still comes back to me)
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alenord11/17/118:12 PMI scaffold my activities just like I do my lessons. Ss know we have to start simple and work our way up. #langchat
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dr_dmd11/17/118:12 PMRT @suarez712002: @sraoconnor THIS IS KEY!!! all the time you spend modeling it's going to pay off for the rest of they year!#langchat
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SECottrell11/17/118:12 PMRT @suarez712002: @tmsaue1 most of them! #langchat
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dr_dmd11/17/118:12 PMRT @tmsaue1: #langchat how many classroom problems are related to students not knowing expectation?
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sallyfox1311/17/118:12 PM#langchat You want kids to talk in a language clssrm so need signals for stop n go and consensus about how loud is too loud.
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suarez71200211/17/118:12 PM@tmsaue1 most of them! #langchat whether you teach inner city or somewhere else sts look for structure, adult role models#langchat
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suarez71200211/17/118:13 PM@SECottrell I can statements for each class , praise sts when they are doing a good job #langchat
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SECottrell11/17/118:13 PM@Watermelonworks @sallyfox13 @WatchKnowLearn welcome to #langchat!
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dr_dmd11/17/118:13 PM#langchat greetings to @nnaditz !
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Watermelonworks11/17/118:13 PMGood evening everyone!#langchat
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alenord11/17/118:13 PM@SECottrell I have a rubric on my wall that I use to have them measure themselves and their efforts. #langchat
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SECottrell11/17/118:13 PMIt takes training in WL class especially b/c our expectations are so very different (in communicative classroom) #langchat
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sraoconnor11/17/118:14 PMRT @suarez712002: @SECottrell I can statements for each class , praise sts when they are doing a good job #langchat
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dr_dmd11/17/118:14 PMRT @sallyfox13: #langchat Music is a great way to signal transitions.
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SECottrell11/17/118:14 PMI remember asking my elem kids, "When <song> plays, what do you do? Sit quietly or get up & talk to friends?" #langchat
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Watermelonworks11/17/118:14 PM@SECottrell with my Students - daily reinforcement #langchat
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dr_dmd11/17/118:14 PM#langchat a participation rubric is great help
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jklopp11/17/118:14 PM#langchat always be on your feet walking around the classroom
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js_pasaporte11/17/118:14 PMRT @alenord: @SECottrell I have a rubric on my wall that I use to have them measure themselves and their efforts. #langchat
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profesorM11/17/118:14 PMRT @alenord: I scaffold my activities just like I do my lessons. Ss know we have to start simple and work our way up. #langchat
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dr_dmd11/17/118:14 PMRT @alenord: @SECottrell I have a rubric on my wall that I use to have them measure themselves and their efforts. #langchat
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alenord11/17/118:14 PM#langchat Actively monitoring what they are doing at all times.
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nnaditz11/17/118:14 PM@dr_dmd #langchat and some basic routines for materials distrib and collect, entering, leaving, changing partners etc. Supports sp needs 2
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sallyfox1311/17/118:14 PM#langchat Music is a great way to signal transitions.
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MmeNero11/17/118:15 PM#langchat Bonsoir tout le monde!
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suarez71200211/17/118:15 PM@alenord @profesorM yes and give them immediate feedback, sts want to know how they are doing #langchat
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pamwesely11/17/118:15 PMHere at #langchat at #actfl11 we're talking about how it's easier to start tough and lighten up later! Be the meanie!
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WatchKnowLearn11/17/118:15 PMI really think consistency is the key to classroom management. Just like parenting, u can't keep passing out warnings w/o action. #langchat
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profesorM11/17/118:15 PMRT @dr_dmd: #langchat a participation rubric is great help
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profesorM11/17/118:15 PMRT @jklopp: #langchat always be on your feet walking around the classroom
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dr_dmd11/17/118:15 PMRT @jklopp: #langchat always be on your feet walking around the classroom
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profesorM11/17/118:15 PMRT @alenord: #langchat Actively monitoring what they are doing at all times.
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alenord11/17/118:15 PM#langchat I refer often to the rubric to remind them that the basic response is not enough for the grade they want.