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CalicoTeach3/10/20118:00 PMWelcome to #LangChat! Tonight's topic: What listening strategies improve comprehension of native speakers.
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CalicoTeach3/10/20118:01 PM#LangChat Please remember to include #LangChat in your posts and let us know you are participating by saying hello.
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NinaTanti13/10/20118:02 PM#langchat Hi from California where I teach French language classes at the college level.
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:02 PMFor the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #langchat
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SECottrell3/10/20118:02 PMFor the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #langchat - welcome everyone! What listening strategies help students understand natives?
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:02 PMhi! coming to you from Chicago. teach 5-8 sp. #langchat
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fravan3/10/20118:02 PMFor the next hour (8-9)
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NinaTanti13/10/20118:03 PM#langchat News from the Internet, of course, but I find that's TOO hard for beginners!
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CalicoTeach3/10/20118:03 PMWelcome @maestrachevre, @SECottrell, @NinaTanti1, @fravan! Thanks for joining us tonight. #LangChat
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pamwesely3/10/20118:04 PM#langchat Hi - Pam Wesely here - was a MS French teacher, now train foreign language teachers at the Univ of Iowa
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SECottrell3/10/20118:04 PMI confess this topic is of high interest to me because my 4th-year students have such difficulty understanding native speakers. #langchat
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CalicoTeach3/10/20118:04 PM@NinaTanti1 I like to use stories they are already familiar with, a hot topic then show news. #LangChat
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SraSpanglish3/10/20118:04 PM@maestrachevre for non-natives to understand natives, right? #langchat
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:04 PMi'm confused...we're talking native or non-native speakers? #langchat
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SECottrell3/10/20118:05 PM@NinaTanti1 My biggest mistake was to decide that authentic audio was too hard for low-level students. #langchat
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NinaTanti13/10/20118:05 PM#langchat Maybe play recordings of EASY stories for children (found online?)
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usamimi743/10/20118:05 PMHello from missouri. High school french teacher. #langchat [Like it? http://bit.ly/flNLEI ]
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:05 PM@SraSpanglish that's what I thought but didn't come across that way in mentioning of topic #langchat
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fravan3/10/20118:05 PMI tell them to relax. There will be things you don't understand, focus on what you do understand #langchat
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pamwesely3/10/20118:05 PMFYI my tweets will be devoted to #langchat for the next hour
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CalicoTeach3/10/20118:05 PM@SraSpanglish Yes. We are looking for ways that non-native learners can better understand native speakers.
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CalicoTeach3/10/20118:06 PM@SECottrell It is common for students to have difficulty. Encourage them to find familiar anchor words and get gist of topic. #langchat
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SECottrell3/10/20118:06 PM@fravan This is my mantra with them, they can't give up. Particularly with AP audio. May be something at the end they understand. #langchat
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srawalzak3/10/20118:06 PMGracias @Diegoojeda66 para una conferencia fantástica hoy en Phoenix!! #langchat
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:06 PM@SECottrell where do you find the right authentic audio? or make it level approp for the beginners? #langchat
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SraSpanglish3/10/20118:06 PMI've tried breaking it down, video they can re-watch, making sound clips of the parts w/ the answers; even that frustrates them #langchat
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paulinobrener3/10/20118:06 PMHola / Hello from Minneapolis, MN #langchat
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paulinobrener3/10/20118:07 PM@NinaTanti1 you can always listen to the whole news but then concentrate on a very small chunk (repeat it, work it) #langchat
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usamimi743/10/20118:07 PM@maestrachevre I like to use ielanguages website. She is starting to gather nice little audio w/ exercises.. #langchat
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:07 PMWhat about playing weather reports and the traffic from the radio? #langchat
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fravan3/10/20118:07 PMI tell them it is skill, like free throws in basketball. It takes practice #langchat
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CalicoTeach3/10/20118:07 PM@fravan Exactly. Try to catch words and phrases, not understand everything. Sort of like reading Shakespeare. #langchat
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:07 PMMusic works but we need to do a "pre-read" to help beginners get an idea of the topic #langchat
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paulinobrener3/10/20118:07 PMLots of interactions with Native Speakers when possible (think local Latinos/Hispanics, Skype, etc.) #langchat
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SECottrell3/10/20118:08 PMThe only frontloading you can do w/AP audio is to tell them get everything they can from the question and title #langchat
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SraSpanglish3/10/20118:08 PM@paulinobrener How does one arrange "lots of interacttions"? #langchat
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suarez7120023/10/20118:08 PMlist is like read and writing we need to have pre-while and post activities #langchat
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usamimi743/10/20118:08 PM@maestrachevre communities like #rhinospike r also a possibility #langchat
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SraSpanglish3/10/20118:08 PMRT @maestrachevre: Music works but need 2 do "pre-read" 2 help beginners get idea of the topic #langchat -- Always frontload 4 comprehension
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:08 PM@usamimi74 do you have the link? #langchat
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:09 PMRT @fravan: 4 beginners: give them a sheet with words on it. Ea gets diff color marker, they and partner circle words they hear. #langchat
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usamimi743/10/20118:09 PM@maestrachevre here is her twitter profile @ielanguages. U can link from there. Will b contributing soon for "belgian" accent #langchat
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SECottrell3/10/20118:09 PM@SraSpanglish Through Twitter & an accreditation site, I'm just starting a collaboration with 3 different schools #langchat
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paulinobrener3/10/20118:09 PMmine too! :-) RT @pamwesely: FYI my tweets will be devoted to #langchat for the next hour
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SraSpanglish3/10/20118:09 PM@maestrachevre Viva Cuba ftw #langchat
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:09 PMRT @CalicoTeach: @paulinobrener Right. Focus on key themes not entire newscasts. #langchat at least then they know what to expect
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fravan3/10/20118:09 PM4 beginners: give them a sheet with words on it. Each gets a different color marker, they and partner circle words they hear. #langchat
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SraSpanglish3/10/20118:09 PMRT @suarez712002: list is like read and writing we need to have pre-while and post activities #langchat
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NinaTanti13/10/20118:09 PM#langchat Yes, just immersing them in the language is very valuable for listening comprehension. I've said it before: teach in the TL !
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pamwesely3/10/20118:09 PM#langchat I have seen teachers use word banks while Ss listen to news broadcasts
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CalicoTeach3/10/20118:09 PM@paulinobrener Right. Focus on key themes not entire newscasts. #langchat
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paulinobrener3/10/20118:09 PM@SECottrell hey! careful with HIGH expectations. I studied English for 30 years, lived in US for 10 and STILL sometimes it's hard #langchat
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:09 PMhas anyone found movies that are approp and authentic? NOT disney dubbed? #langchat this might be great culturally too
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SECottrell3/10/20118:10 PM@NinaTanti1 Speaking the TL in class is imperative indeed! #langchat
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usamimi743/10/20118:10 PMRT @suarez712002: list is like read and writing we need to have pre-while and post activities #langchat
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suarez7120023/10/20118:10 PMdon't think is a good idea to show an entire movie but part of it #langchat
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NinaTanti13/10/20118:10 PM#langchat The more they hear US, the more they will understand natives....
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SECottrell3/10/20118:10 PM@paulinobrener Tell that to the College Board. :-/ #langchat
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:10 PM@usamimi74 merci #langchat
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SraSpanglish3/10/20118:11 PMRT @fravan: beginners: give a sheet w/ words on it...partner circle words they hear. #langchat Is this the whole actvty; is there follo-up?
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SECottrell3/10/20118:11 PM@paulinobrener The complaints I get from student listening reports are - speed, trouble separating words #langchat
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worldlanguages3/10/20118:11 PMways that non-native learners can better understand native speakers #langchat ... for 'live' situations teach 'más despacio por favor' ;-)
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CalicoTeach3/10/20118:11 PM#LangChat regarding radio,listen to same anchor report weather daily to build familiarity with layout, accent, etc.
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:11 PM@worldlanguages works at the start but if we spk too slowly Ss don't understand other natives not in classroom #langchat
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paulinobrener3/10/20118:11 PM@NinaTanti1 i think the stories have to be age appropriate. would you read 3-pigs in College English class? #langchat
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melindamlarson3/10/20118:11 PMRT @fravan: I tell them it is skill, like free throws in basketball. It takes practice #langchat
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pamwesely3/10/20118:11 PM#langchat what is the issue with native speech? speed? accent? nonstandard L2? we need different techniques to help Ss w/different issues
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:12 PMRT @SECottrell: @paulinobrener The complaints I get from student listening reports are - speed, trouble separating words #langchat
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melindamlarson3/10/20118:12 PMRT @maestrachevre: exposure to multiple accents is a must get kids accustomed to diff spks #langchat
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SECottrell3/10/20118:12 PMre: news, radio, weather - priming is important, picking something current, known, or previewed #langchat
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pamwesely3/10/20118:12 PM#langchat listening to news may not help with understand NSs in casual speech
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:12 PMexposure to multiple accents is a must get kids accustomed to diff spks #langchat
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SECottrell3/10/20118:13 PM@SraSpanglish About to have a talk with admin @jacobsaltsman about how we can convince the tech guy to let me use Skype #langchat
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CalicoTeach3/10/20118:13 PMRT @pamwesely: #langchat what is the issue with native speech? speed? accent? nonstandard L2? need different techniques to help Ss
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paulinobrener3/10/20118:13 PMgreat idea! RT @maestrachevre: What about playing weather reports and the traffic from the radio? #langchat
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NinaTanti13/10/20118:13 PM@paulinobrener #langchat U can get away with a lot teaching a foreign language: my (beginning) college students LOVE children's stories..
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melindamlarson3/10/20118:13 PMRT @fravan: Pre listening, tell them topic and ask them what words would you expect to hear? #langchat
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worldlanguages3/10/20118:13 PM@maestrachevre works at the start #langchat - when Ss have 'live' conversations train Ss to ask 'slowly/repeat please' most natives ok
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SECottrell3/10/20118:13 PMSources of authentic audio via @DiegoOjeda66 's wiki http://bit.ly/hNd0Qb #langchat
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paulinobrener3/10/20118:13 PM@maestrachevre try dancing or singing sometimes. not always JUST listening activities #langchat
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:13 PM@pamwesely may help w confidence and helping them feel good about understanding #langchat
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SraSpanglish3/10/20118:13 PM@SECottrell True, there are more & more school2school things--already had a Skype date w/ AZ 2nd graders #langchat
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fravan3/10/20118:13 PMPre listening, tell them topic and ask them what words would you expect to hear? #langchat
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SraSpanglish3/10/20118:14 PMRT @WorldLanguages: #langchat 4 'live' situations teach 'más despacio por favor' ;-)--Responses are key!
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SECottrell3/10/20118:14 PMVery few movies from Latin America are appropriate for showing in high school. #langchat
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:14 PM@SraSpanglish any movies in particular you suggest? #langchat
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SraSpanglish3/10/20118:14 PM@suarez712002 I think some movies are worth showing the whole thing, but not at once. Also, the whole focus need not be language #langchat
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paulinobrener3/10/20118:14 PMlink? RT @usamimi74: @maestrachevre I like to use ielanguages website. She is starting to gather nice little audio w/ exercises.. #langchat
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melindamlarson3/10/20118:15 PMRT @tonitheisen: when we receive information orally, we remember 10 % 3 days later. When that information is paired with a pix, remember 65 % #langchat
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CalicoTeach3/10/20118:15 PMRT @maestrachevre: what about interviews via youtube? #langchat What type of interviews? For jobs, as entertainment? How do you use them?
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fravan3/10/20118:15 PMTag questions too are important too. #langchat
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:15 PM@fravan can do that w storytelling. Tch tells story Ss draw and tell story back #langchat
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tonitheisen3/10/20118:15 PMwhen we receive information orally, we remember 10 % 3 days later. When that information is paired with a pix, remember 65 % #langchat
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paulinobrener3/10/20118:15 PM@SraSpanglish ideas 1) contact local Latino orgs and ask for volunteers to visti your classroom #langchat
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NinaTanti13/10/20118:15 PMRT @paulinobrener: @maestrachevre try dancing or singing sometimes. not always JUST listening activities #langchat
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SECottrell3/10/20118:15 PMI show Pan's Labyrinth end of senior year and have to get signed permission from every parent. #langchat
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maestrachevre3/10/20118:15 PMwhat about interviews via youtube? #langchat
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fravan3/10/20118:15 PM@SraSpanglish play again and follow up with y/n questions, play again, have them tell me what they heard--re tell it as a group #langchat
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usamimi743/10/20118:15 PMRT @fravan: Pre listening, tell them topic and ask them what words would you expect to hear? #langchat