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2 | CalicoTeach | 3/10/2011 | 8:00 PM | Welcome to #LangChat! Tonight's topic: What listening strategies improve comprehension of native speakers. | ||
3 | CalicoTeach | 3/10/2011 | 8:01 PM | #LangChat Please remember to include #LangChat in your posts and let us know you are participating by saying hello. | ||
4 | NinaTanti1 | 3/10/2011 | 8:02 PM | #langchat Hi from California where I teach French language classes at the college level. | ||
5 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:02 PM | For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #langchat | ||
6 | SECottrell | 3/10/2011 | 8:02 PM | For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #langchat - welcome everyone! What listening strategies help students understand natives? | ||
7 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:02 PM | hi! coming to you from Chicago. teach 5-8 sp. #langchat | ||
8 | fravan | 3/10/2011 | 8:02 PM | For the next hour (8-9) | ||
9 | NinaTanti1 | 3/10/2011 | 8:03 PM | #langchat News from the Internet, of course, but I find that's TOO hard for beginners! | ||
10 | CalicoTeach | 3/10/2011 | 8:03 PM | Welcome @maestrachevre, @SECottrell, @NinaTanti1, @fravan! Thanks for joining us tonight. #LangChat | ||
11 | pamwesely | 3/10/2011 | 8:04 PM | #langchat Hi - Pam Wesely here - was a MS French teacher, now train foreign language teachers at the Univ of Iowa | ||
12 | SECottrell | 3/10/2011 | 8:04 PM | I confess this topic is of high interest to me because my 4th-year students have such difficulty understanding native speakers. #langchat | ||
13 | CalicoTeach | 3/10/2011 | 8:04 PM | @NinaTanti1 I like to use stories they are already familiar with, a hot topic then show news. #LangChat | ||
14 | SraSpanglish | 3/10/2011 | 8:04 PM | @maestrachevre for non-natives to understand natives, right? #langchat | ||
15 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:04 PM | i'm confused...we're talking native or non-native speakers? #langchat | ||
16 | SECottrell | 3/10/2011 | 8:05 PM | @NinaTanti1 My biggest mistake was to decide that authentic audio was too hard for low-level students. #langchat | ||
17 | NinaTanti1 | 3/10/2011 | 8:05 PM | #langchat Maybe play recordings of EASY stories for children (found online?) | ||
18 | usamimi74 | 3/10/2011 | 8:05 PM | Hello from missouri. High school french teacher. #langchat [Like it? http://bit.ly/flNLEI ] | ||
19 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:05 PM | @SraSpanglish that's what I thought but didn't come across that way in mentioning of topic #langchat | ||
20 | fravan | 3/10/2011 | 8:05 PM | I tell them to relax. There will be things you don't understand, focus on what you do understand #langchat | ||
21 | pamwesely | 3/10/2011 | 8:05 PM | FYI my tweets will be devoted to #langchat for the next hour | ||
22 | CalicoTeach | 3/10/2011 | 8:05 PM | @SraSpanglish Yes. We are looking for ways that non-native learners can better understand native speakers. | ||
23 | CalicoTeach | 3/10/2011 | 8:06 PM | @SECottrell It is common for students to have difficulty. Encourage them to find familiar anchor words and get gist of topic. #langchat | ||
24 | SECottrell | 3/10/2011 | 8:06 PM | @fravan This is my mantra with them, they can't give up. Particularly with AP audio. May be something at the end they understand. #langchat | ||
25 | srawalzak | 3/10/2011 | 8:06 PM | Gracias @Diegoojeda66 para una conferencia fantástica hoy en Phoenix!! #langchat | ||
26 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:06 PM | @SECottrell where do you find the right authentic audio? or make it level approp for the beginners? #langchat | ||
27 | SraSpanglish | 3/10/2011 | 8:06 PM | I've tried breaking it down, video they can re-watch, making sound clips of the parts w/ the answers; even that frustrates them #langchat | ||
28 | paulinobrener | 3/10/2011 | 8:06 PM | Hola / Hello from Minneapolis, MN #langchat | ||
29 | paulinobrener | 3/10/2011 | 8:07 PM | @NinaTanti1 you can always listen to the whole news but then concentrate on a very small chunk (repeat it, work it) #langchat | ||
30 | usamimi74 | 3/10/2011 | 8:07 PM | @maestrachevre I like to use ielanguages website. She is starting to gather nice little audio w/ exercises.. #langchat | ||
31 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:07 PM | What about playing weather reports and the traffic from the radio? #langchat | ||
32 | fravan | 3/10/2011 | 8:07 PM | I tell them it is skill, like free throws in basketball. It takes practice #langchat | ||
33 | CalicoTeach | 3/10/2011 | 8:07 PM | @fravan Exactly. Try to catch words and phrases, not understand everything. Sort of like reading Shakespeare. #langchat | ||
34 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:07 PM | Music works but we need to do a "pre-read" to help beginners get an idea of the topic #langchat | ||
35 | paulinobrener | 3/10/2011 | 8:07 PM | Lots of interactions with Native Speakers when possible (think local Latinos/Hispanics, Skype, etc.) #langchat | ||
36 | SECottrell | 3/10/2011 | 8:08 PM | The only frontloading you can do w/AP audio is to tell them get everything they can from the question and title #langchat | ||
37 | SraSpanglish | 3/10/2011 | 8:08 PM | @paulinobrener How does one arrange "lots of interacttions"? #langchat | ||
38 | suarez712002 | 3/10/2011 | 8:08 PM | list is like read and writing we need to have pre-while and post activities #langchat | ||
39 | usamimi74 | 3/10/2011 | 8:08 PM | @maestrachevre communities like #rhinospike r also a possibility #langchat | ||
40 | SraSpanglish | 3/10/2011 | 8:08 PM | RT @maestrachevre: Music works but need 2 do "pre-read" 2 help beginners get idea of the topic #langchat -- Always frontload 4 comprehension | ||
41 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:08 PM | @usamimi74 do you have the link? #langchat | ||
42 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:09 PM | RT @fravan: 4 beginners: give them a sheet with words on it. Ea gets diff color marker, they and partner circle words they hear. #langchat | ||
43 | usamimi74 | 3/10/2011 | 8:09 PM | @maestrachevre here is her twitter profile @ielanguages. U can link from there. Will b contributing soon for "belgian" accent #langchat | ||
44 | SECottrell | 3/10/2011 | 8:09 PM | @SraSpanglish Through Twitter & an accreditation site, I'm just starting a collaboration with 3 different schools #langchat | ||
45 | paulinobrener | 3/10/2011 | 8:09 PM | mine too! :-) RT @pamwesely: FYI my tweets will be devoted to #langchat for the next hour | ||
46 | SraSpanglish | 3/10/2011 | 8:09 PM | @maestrachevre Viva Cuba ftw #langchat | ||
47 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:09 PM | RT @CalicoTeach: @paulinobrener Right. Focus on key themes not entire newscasts. #langchat at least then they know what to expect | ||
48 | fravan | 3/10/2011 | 8:09 PM | 4 beginners: give them a sheet with words on it. Each gets a different color marker, they and partner circle words they hear. #langchat | ||
49 | SraSpanglish | 3/10/2011 | 8:09 PM | RT @suarez712002: list is like read and writing we need to have pre-while and post activities #langchat | ||
50 | NinaTanti1 | 3/10/2011 | 8:09 PM | #langchat Yes, just immersing them in the language is very valuable for listening comprehension. I've said it before: teach in the TL ! | ||
51 | pamwesely | 3/10/2011 | 8:09 PM | #langchat I have seen teachers use word banks while Ss listen to news broadcasts | ||
52 | CalicoTeach | 3/10/2011 | 8:09 PM | @paulinobrener Right. Focus on key themes not entire newscasts. #langchat | ||
53 | paulinobrener | 3/10/2011 | 8:09 PM | @SECottrell hey! careful with HIGH expectations. I studied English for 30 years, lived in US for 10 and STILL sometimes it's hard #langchat | ||
54 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:09 PM | has anyone found movies that are approp and authentic? NOT disney dubbed? #langchat this might be great culturally too | ||
55 | SECottrell | 3/10/2011 | 8:10 PM | @NinaTanti1 Speaking the TL in class is imperative indeed! #langchat | ||
56 | usamimi74 | 3/10/2011 | 8:10 PM | RT @suarez712002: list is like read and writing we need to have pre-while and post activities #langchat | ||
57 | suarez712002 | 3/10/2011 | 8:10 PM | don't think is a good idea to show an entire movie but part of it #langchat | ||
58 | NinaTanti1 | 3/10/2011 | 8:10 PM | #langchat The more they hear US, the more they will understand natives.... | ||
59 | SECottrell | 3/10/2011 | 8:10 PM | @paulinobrener Tell that to the College Board. :-/ #langchat | ||
60 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:10 PM | @usamimi74 merci #langchat | ||
61 | SraSpanglish | 3/10/2011 | 8:11 PM | RT @fravan: beginners: give a sheet w/ words on it...partner circle words they hear. #langchat Is this the whole actvty; is there follo-up? | ||
62 | SECottrell | 3/10/2011 | 8:11 PM | @paulinobrener The complaints I get from student listening reports are - speed, trouble separating words #langchat | ||
63 | worldlanguages | 3/10/2011 | 8:11 PM | ways that non-native learners can better understand native speakers #langchat ... for 'live' situations teach 'más despacio por favor' ;-) | ||
64 | CalicoTeach | 3/10/2011 | 8:11 PM | #LangChat regarding radio,listen to same anchor report weather daily to build familiarity with layout, accent, etc. | ||
65 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:11 PM | @worldlanguages works at the start but if we spk too slowly Ss don't understand other natives not in classroom #langchat | ||
66 | paulinobrener | 3/10/2011 | 8:11 PM | @NinaTanti1 i think the stories have to be age appropriate. would you read 3-pigs in College English class? #langchat | ||
67 | melindamlarson | 3/10/2011 | 8:11 PM | RT @fravan: I tell them it is skill, like free throws in basketball. It takes practice #langchat | ||
68 | pamwesely | 3/10/2011 | 8:11 PM | #langchat what is the issue with native speech? speed? accent? nonstandard L2? we need different techniques to help Ss w/different issues | ||
69 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:12 PM | RT @SECottrell: @paulinobrener The complaints I get from student listening reports are - speed, trouble separating words #langchat | ||
70 | melindamlarson | 3/10/2011 | 8:12 PM | RT @maestrachevre: exposure to multiple accents is a must get kids accustomed to diff spks #langchat | ||
71 | SECottrell | 3/10/2011 | 8:12 PM | re: news, radio, weather - priming is important, picking something current, known, or previewed #langchat | ||
72 | pamwesely | 3/10/2011 | 8:12 PM | #langchat listening to news may not help with understand NSs in casual speech | ||
73 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:12 PM | exposure to multiple accents is a must get kids accustomed to diff spks #langchat | ||
74 | SECottrell | 3/10/2011 | 8:13 PM | @SraSpanglish About to have a talk with admin @jacobsaltsman about how we can convince the tech guy to let me use Skype #langchat | ||
75 | CalicoTeach | 3/10/2011 | 8:13 PM | RT @pamwesely: #langchat what is the issue with native speech? speed? accent? nonstandard L2? need different techniques to help Ss | ||
76 | paulinobrener | 3/10/2011 | 8:13 PM | great idea! RT @maestrachevre: What about playing weather reports and the traffic from the radio? #langchat | ||
77 | NinaTanti1 | 3/10/2011 | 8:13 PM | @paulinobrener #langchat U can get away with a lot teaching a foreign language: my (beginning) college students LOVE children's stories.. | ||
78 | melindamlarson | 3/10/2011 | 8:13 PM | RT @fravan: Pre listening, tell them topic and ask them what words would you expect to hear? #langchat | ||
79 | worldlanguages | 3/10/2011 | 8:13 PM | @maestrachevre works at the start #langchat - when Ss have 'live' conversations train Ss to ask 'slowly/repeat please' most natives ok | ||
80 | SECottrell | 3/10/2011 | 8:13 PM | Sources of authentic audio via @DiegoOjeda66 's wiki http://bit.ly/hNd0Qb #langchat | ||
81 | paulinobrener | 3/10/2011 | 8:13 PM | @maestrachevre try dancing or singing sometimes. not always JUST listening activities #langchat | ||
82 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:13 PM | @pamwesely may help w confidence and helping them feel good about understanding #langchat | ||
83 | SraSpanglish | 3/10/2011 | 8:13 PM | @SECottrell True, there are more & more school2school things--already had a Skype date w/ AZ 2nd graders #langchat | ||
84 | fravan | 3/10/2011 | 8:13 PM | Pre listening, tell them topic and ask them what words would you expect to hear? #langchat | ||
85 | SraSpanglish | 3/10/2011 | 8:14 PM | RT @WorldLanguages: #langchat 4 'live' situations teach 'más despacio por favor' ;-)--Responses are key! | ||
86 | SECottrell | 3/10/2011 | 8:14 PM | Very few movies from Latin America are appropriate for showing in high school. #langchat | ||
87 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:14 PM | @SraSpanglish any movies in particular you suggest? #langchat | ||
88 | SraSpanglish | 3/10/2011 | 8:14 PM | @suarez712002 I think some movies are worth showing the whole thing, but not at once. Also, the whole focus need not be language #langchat | ||
89 | paulinobrener | 3/10/2011 | 8:14 PM | link? RT @usamimi74: @maestrachevre I like to use ielanguages website. She is starting to gather nice little audio w/ exercises.. #langchat | ||
90 | melindamlarson | 3/10/2011 | 8:15 PM | RT @tonitheisen: when we receive information orally, we remember 10 % 3 days later. When that information is paired with a pix, remember 65 % #langchat | ||
91 | CalicoTeach | 3/10/2011 | 8:15 PM | RT @maestrachevre: what about interviews via youtube? #langchat What type of interviews? For jobs, as entertainment? How do you use them? | ||
92 | fravan | 3/10/2011 | 8:15 PM | Tag questions too are important too. #langchat | ||
93 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:15 PM | @fravan can do that w storytelling. Tch tells story Ss draw and tell story back #langchat | ||
94 | tonitheisen | 3/10/2011 | 8:15 PM | when we receive information orally, we remember 10 % 3 days later. When that information is paired with a pix, remember 65 % #langchat | ||
95 | paulinobrener | 3/10/2011 | 8:15 PM | @SraSpanglish ideas 1) contact local Latino orgs and ask for volunteers to visti your classroom #langchat | ||
96 | NinaTanti1 | 3/10/2011 | 8:15 PM | RT @paulinobrener: @maestrachevre try dancing or singing sometimes. not always JUST listening activities #langchat | ||
97 | SECottrell | 3/10/2011 | 8:15 PM | I show Pan's Labyrinth end of senior year and have to get signed permission from every parent. #langchat | ||
98 | maestrachevre | 3/10/2011 | 8:15 PM | what about interviews via youtube? #langchat | ||
99 | fravan | 3/10/2011 | 8:15 PM | @SraSpanglish play again and follow up with y/n questions, play again, have them tell me what they heard--re tell it as a group #langchat | ||
100 | usamimi74 | 3/10/2011 | 8:15 PM | RT @fravan: Pre listening, tell them topic and ask them what words would you expect to hear? #langchat |