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TimestampName (pseudonym is fine)GenderWere you a guide?Was this your first PyStar workshop?Post-Workshop Assessment [I feel good right now]Post-Workshop Assessment [I find programming intimidating]Post-Workshop Assessment [I am excited to contribute to Open Source projects]Post-Workshop Assessment [Programming is satisfying]Post-Workshop Assessment [I am the boss of my computer]Post-Workshop Assessment [I feel comfortable using the command line / terminal / shell]Post-Workshop Assessment [I feel solid on programming basics]Post-Workshop Assessment [I feel solid on advanced programming concepts]Post-Workshop Assessment [I can write a 'hello, worl' in a programming language of my choice]Post-Workshop Assessment [I understand the basics of how the internet works]Post-Workshop Assessment [I can solve problems using computers]Post-Workshop Assessment [I know where to find help or additional resources for my computing questions]Post-Workshop Assessment [I feel excluded from programming communities]Post-Workshop Assessment [I am part of a programming community]Post-Workshop Assessment [Being called a programmer would make me feel good]My guide's name(s): [The curriculum worked for me] [I felt safe asking the guide questions] [I got what I expected from this workshop]Two things missing for me were: [I will continue to expand my programming skills after this workshop]Two things I got from this workshop but didn't expect were:Any additional comments and suggestions for improving this workshop? Which PyStar event are you at?If you were a guide - was this your first time teaching?My guide's name(s):
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11/30/2021 21:10:52FemaleNoYes2222222222222222222KanpurNon/a
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9/10/2011 15:10:24FNo212222202222102-121actual curriculum; actual teacher (we had two assistants instead)2going through the entire badges sectiongoals for each section; more curriculumSan Francisco 9/10Alyssa & Ginny
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9/10/2011 15:18:06FemaleNoYes2-10222001112-101112I have no idea what to say ))). Everything was excellent! Thank's a lot!2I've understood more python than expected.
It seems to me that I'm not as stupid as I thought I was before :)))
naSan FranciscoAlyssa
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9/10/2011 15:24:04FemaleNoYes1100000-11101000111a guide; structured information/cirriculum1good team-working environment with other students and tutors; access to many tutorials and resources I can go to for further self-studySan Franciscon/a
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9/10/2011 15:30:53FemaleNoYes2011111122220112222San FranciscoTracy Chou
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9/10/2011 15:35:15FemaleSan Francisco
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9/10/2011 15:35:57maleNoYes1-11222102121-1011221San FranciscoDan
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9/10/2011 15:36:12FNoYes2012222021120012221) Internet access :) couldn't connect to the Internet in the afternoon, but Tracy graciously let me use her laptop.

2) Trouble installing some basic things needed to do more advanced stuff (i.e. setup tools, pip)
21) Lots of self-direction. I enjoyed the format of working through things ourselves and asking our guide for help when we were stuck, as well as getting time to play around by ourselves. It helped to be able to explore on my own terms in addition to the structured tutorial.

2) Lots of personal attention. I'm glad we split into such small groups; our guide was able to help each of us with our needs. (Tracy was great btw!)
I think we could've fit an extra project into the day. Otherwise, really awesome job, far exceeded what I expected from a free workshop!San FranciscoTracy Chou
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9/10/2011 15:37:01FemaleNoYes200111212112101222more coffee2using sqllite was coolSan FranciscoKaren
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9/10/2011 15:37:30femaleNoYes01-10the online curriculum was not as self-explanatory as I would have expected; it required a lot of explanation from guide and others to "teach" the material.
Also, the experience of the group was more mixed than should have been--we were basic beginners but got mixed with intermediates.
the physical space was pretty good, although was somewhat more crowded than had hoped. The food and snacks were great!San Francisco
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9/10/2011 15:39:09FemaleNoYes100110-111110001001San Francisco
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9/10/2011 15:39:49FemaleNoYes100112112111102121I had a windows 7 laptop and it was running into a lot of problems trying install pip and other Djanjo dependencies. I would strongly recommend windows users be warned , that way they can come prepped or join a different class of their choice.2Meet a lot more women programmers then I expected.San FranciscoDan
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9/10/2011 15:39:57femaleNoYes202222212222-122122I caught a sentence in one email about per-installing if you wanted to do the django group. I think my guide would have had an easier time, and the group would have been able to go a little more in depth if per-installation was required. I did most on my own and got great help in the morning before the class with any issues I had. Then I went in and no one else seemed to have gotten very far at all with installation.

Overall, that's pretty minor & the session was great even with people moving at somewhat different paces.
2a sense of cumulative progress built on similar seminars I've started going to (such as the RoR's flavor). Aside from just learning a language, I feel in general that these sessions, while glossing over some of the details in favor of 'magic' end up giving me a lot of other tangential information that helps see the big picture.San FranciscoKaren
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9/10/2011 15:41:30FemaleNoYes1011111011110111101) A basic overview of how django is structured
2) More advanced django concepts
11) A better understanding of how django objects are saved
2) Knowledge about django template tags
San FranciscoKaren
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9/10/2011 15:41:31FemaleNoYes101212202122022121There was a lot of curriculum to go over for the django session. I know that Rails is the same way and it may be unavoidable, but by the end of the day I could execute most of the instructions but didn't know why. So- thing missing- more detailed instructions. Maybe in writing so I could go home and review.

I think that was it:)
2Met some people that I will probably run into again or see in school, which is great.

Know how to use my text editor (textmate) and python together better.
Workshop was great. I'm really impressed by how quickly things have come together for the python workshops, vs the Ruby ones- I think Ruby took longer to get to the same spot (and I organize workshops with Railsbridge so I'm allowed to criticize!).

I also REALLY like the website- badges are great. I like the learn python the hard way philosophy of sometimes asking questions or giving challenging instructions and then links for help or answers.

Thanks for an awesome workshop!
San FranciscoKaren
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9/10/2011 15:43:23MaleNoYespystar SFNo
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9/10/2011 15:44:56FemaleNoYes2011211-11222000221The only thing I'd say was missing was a more in-depth look at terminology so when the slides were up and instruction was flying, more participants would understand what was being talked about.1Interesting aides/teachers. :) (In a good way of course)The first half was great. The second half was okay. I really enjoyed the whole PowerPoint lecture. The aides/instructors were very helpful and very patient. I thought this combination was great.

The aides tended to disagree and have mini quarrels in front of the class which I thought was annoying. They were constantly competing against each other and testing each other's knowledge.

It was sort of crowded but then again that might have been because of the width of the chairs. There weren't much outlets to share but I believe everyone was able to charge their laptops.

This event was for women and their friends so that there would be no intimidation in the classroom or holding back. Do you think that have male aides/instructors would still intimidate women because it's a 'man' teaching a 'woman' ?

Overall, this workshop was not what I was expecting but it was a good experience. I am now 'bootstrapped' and ready to do more coding.

Thanks! :)
San FranciscoAlly, Greg, Christian
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9/10/2011 15:45:36femaleNoYes101121102021012222a little more structure for the Python refresher in the morning
a little more signage for how to get in the building
2feeling good that I remembered programming basics
problem solving with other students - felt good to help each other out and learn
loved it! looking forward to additional eventsSan FranciscoNoPamela
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9/10/2011 15:46:05transguyNoNo2-1221222222-122222Walruses, platypuses 2Turtle, baconRoom got a bit cramped with people, but otherwise fineSan FranciscoNoPamela
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9/10/2011 15:46:51MaleNoYes1122221-121121-111212A good resource for self-exploration on learning your first programming language

"Why's poignant guide to ruby"
Please have the volunteers/teachers run their presentation with an absolute idiot(beta tester) first. The presentation slides included a lot of terminology that paralyzed the absolute beginners in the class, which would then make them fall behind as the instructor continues to speed on with the lecture without explaining the esoteric nomenclature.

I would make a good idiot. Just sayin. akang2@gmail.com in case you're too lazy to see who submitted this survey. I'm also a nice idiot. Honest.
SFNoAlly
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9/10/2011 15:47:59FemaleSF, 9/10/11
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9/10/2011 15:49:07femaleNoYes211212202012012222It was kind of distracting and hard to hear when the assistants were answering individual questions separate from the lecture.2I enjoyed learning the basics & fundamentals in the lecture-format with Ally. I also really appreciated being able to ask lots and LOTS of questions.San FranciscoNoAlly & Greg
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9/10/2011 15:49:19FemaleNoYes211111100101001122Hand outs (brief and concise to save trees) with the basic terms would be great. If we are sent a power point presentation, that would be great too.
Communication about what to download for beginners in Windows could have been better. There was some confusion at the beginning of the class that could have been avoided.
2I didn't expect to feel confident about the basics in python and to feel so comfortable meeting and working with new people at the workshop. This was a great event. Greg Price was incredibly helpful!San FranciscoNoGreg Price
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9/10/2011 15:53:12FemaleNoYes2-12112211222-1001221) Practical applications for Python
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01) Not as intense/ intimidating as I had thought it would be.
2) Enjoyed listening to Ally and other guides about their personal experience as a programmer.
1) More signs to get into the building
2) Info regarding parking for non SF residents
3) For Ally
- more PowerPoint examples/ screenshots for the terminology.
- an over introduction of Python programming-- what it is, how and where it's used.
SFAlly
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9/10/2011 15:55:41FemailNoYes1-10222222222002112The Django badge is badly in need of QA. Some one needs to go through it and make sure it all works.

The class was chaotic and I was really way behind during the first session. This was due in large part to problems w/ the badge.

2I learned and used git.

Got to see how templates work in Django.
Need a couple hours a way to figure this out.SF, 9/10/11NoKaren
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9/10/2011 15:57:29NoYes100221101222001112It looked like there was a bit of misinformation regarding setup and installation, but I got to the event half an hour late so I missed exactly what was discussed. I think it had to do with which version and which program/software to use.2A laptop was loaned to me (Ally and Greg both offered theirs). I don't own a laptop and could not borrow one in time for the event, so I was very grateful for their offer and trust in me for using their computers. I ended up using Ally's spare laptop and I definitely got more out of the session that if I had simply taken notes and tried it myself at home, as I had planned before coming. Thank you for being so kind!

I didn't expect to be able to switch groups as I pleased, but it was a pleasant surprise as well.

If I heard right, the presentations will be emailed or posted later, which will be great for me when I want to review the information again.
It could be even more magical than charlie mountain!!!

Jokes aside, some of the groups seemed too large and had to split them up into separate rooms for the second half of the event. Having space where large groups can migrate would most likely be helpful.

Having a time slot before the sessions start to help people set up would be beneficial just in case anyone has trouble setting up their laptops on their own. That way, no one gets left behind and has to catch up.
San FranciscoAlly, Christian, Greg
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9/11/2011 11:16:56FemaleNoYes201221111222022222I was pleasantly surprised. I think that during the workshop I had everything I needed. When I had questions, I asked my fellow attendees, Karen, and the assistant guides. I had only one question that I resorted to searching for online since no one was sure of a solution.2A full walk-through of a tutorial, with some 'gotchas' or underlying concepts explained. And, assistants and a guide that were truly helpful.[1] Couldn't set up virtualenv (Windows), though it was great that we were able to still complete the workshop without it. And, I'm glad that I got a brief understanding of why it's a good idea to use. [2] When showing code snippets on http://pystar.org/badges/badge_djangoapp.html, I sometimes didn't understand what file I was supposed to edit. Consider adding the filename and formatting the example code similar to what's shown at http://tutorialzine.com/2009/12/colorful-clock-jquery-css/. The syntax highlighter used is open source and available at http://alexgorbatchev.com/SyntaxHighlighter/. [3] Consider adding more powerstrips that are a little more easily accessible. In the Django room, the table's power strip was in the middle compartment of the really wide table; I understand that this was something that wasn't under your control. [4] Otherwise, great workshop! Thanks for hosting. I learned a lot from the Django workshop, especially since I didn't know Python or Git but had some programming and SVN experience before. I'm looking forward to the next event!San FranciscoKaren (? Django)
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9/12/2011 10:44:43femaleNoYes10121102222111111I didn't get to meet enough people! (but the people that I did meet were great).

Not sure what to do next with python.
1Awesome space at Mozilla - please give them extra thank yous!San FranciscoNo
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12/17/2011 13:38:26femailNoYes2-101111011110112222Help understanding errors / exceptions
Good humor
Excellent job with the human computer and asking for volunteers. Wonderful job explaining the basics in an understandable way that builds confidence. This is the most approachable programming group I've ever encountered.

Seemed a little disorganized at the beginning with deciding who will speak in front of participants after officially starting. This could be a five minute conversation prior to starting and would build your own speaking confidence.

Vani - speak up! You are knowledgeable and we want to understand what you have to stay. Be a little more confident and you will shine.

I know you want to be inclusive of gender diversity and identity - that's great. But it was unclear what you wanted with the "pronoun" preference (maybe because the group was traditionally identified?). You may want to clarify instructions so this is less confusing or make this part of the registration so you can identify preferences prior to the conference.
MinneapolisGregg
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12/17/2011 13:55:51FNoYes2011-112011120121222You all were great. I'll be back. You started nice and small for folks who were complete beginners, and made the place really welcoming and friendly. This room is a leeeeetle cold, though.Minneapolis
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12/17/2011 13:57:13femaleNoYes2102110-10212012122listing possible uses, and how to use python with the internet instead of just doing math2basica programming and flow chart infoThank you so much to Clockwork and the guides. You guys rock!MinneapolisNo
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12/17/2011 14:36:30MaleNoYes201122212222-122122I prefer a more structured environment, 2Free Pizza, Advanced HelpGreat space, I got a little chilly but a very knowledgable staff and extremely helpful.Minneapolis
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12/17/2011 16:09:17FemaleNoYes100101101111011211I didn't know what to expect so everything I learnt was good, starting with a refresher on my flowcharting knowledge, and new info (such as sequencing, using my Terminal, understanding new terms, doing some of the badges at the >>>prompt)Physical space was great, it was a pleasant surprise to have food/drink, the guides were very welcoming, inclusive, and respectful.

I would like the intro to include a brief statement of Python's history and what its strengths and weaknesses are, as well as where it falls on the spectrum(?)grid(?) of programming languages. I got the sense that it's useful for doing lots of things but that abstraction is a bit too open-ended for me. Perhaps solicit project ideas from participants to make it more concrete, e.g. what do you do for work or entertainment? Oh, you take a lot of photos? Python can help you move large images easily and in bulk!
MinneapolisVani, ben, Greg, Tim, Dan, Angela(I think!)
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12/19/2011 13:34:32femaleNoYes211101002212012222more about python syntax, and that's really it.2flowcharts
the badges
The event really built on my previous knowledge. Having the guides around to ask questions was great and a real selling point of the class.

I think a good idea would be to show the learners around github.com, and to look at the guides' repositories and code.
minneapolisNo
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12/20/2011 11:40:29FemaleNoYes212220102211022221I liked that we sat down and went through a basic program from scratch and afterwards we were let loose to go to our computers to fiddle around with the exercises but I think it would have been constructive to go through a few of them together as well. There were several noobies to programming that didn't know where to go from there.2I liked that we sat down and went through a basic program from scratch and afterwards we were let loose to go to our computers to fiddle around with the exercises but I think it would have been constructive to go through a few of them together as well. There were several noobies to programming that didn't know where to go from there.MinneapolisVani!!
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