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1 | Username | Date | Time | Status | ||
2 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:01 PM | Welcome to #LangChat! Tonight's topic: How can we make students more comfortable with total immersion-style teaching? | ||
3 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:02 PM | I am your moderator tonight. All of you are welcome to share in the fun, rephrase questions, challenge assumptions, etc. #LangChat | ||
4 | louvre2012 | 9/29/11 | 8:03 PM | #LangChat Hi everyone. Comment ca va? | ||
5 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:03 PM | @tmsaue1 How could you possibly expect to fall asleep with tonight's topic! This will be engaging! #langchat | ||
6 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:03 PM | @SECottrell can't be here during our chat, but she shared a few thoughts, which I will retweet for you all. #LangChat | ||
7 | tmsaue1 | 9/29/11 | 8:03 PM | For the next hour (or until I fall asleep) all of my tweets will be dedicated to #langchat | ||
8 | NinaTanti1 | 9/29/11 | 8:04 PM | ooooh, magic, I like that! | ||
9 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:04 PM | RT @SECottrell: For tonight's #langchat - use TL to create an atmosphere of "magic" - it's the TL world within your classroom. | ||
10 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:05 PM | RT @SECottrell: kids rebel against immersion when they don't understand. Make input comprehensible. Check & recheck comprehension. #langchat | ||
11 | louvre2012 | 9/29/11 | 8:05 PM | Yes, we can be quite a dramatic bunch #Langchat | ||
12 | tmsaue1 | 9/29/11 | 8:05 PM | It's interesting that most people will tell you that they learned most lang when immersed in it, yet it's so hard to do in class #langchat | ||
13 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:05 PM | RT @SECottrell: - get out of your comfort zone. Be willing to draw, dance, do whatever it takes to make them understand. #LangChat | ||
14 | sylviaduckworth | 9/29/11 | 8:05 PM | We use "La ligne magique" at the Fr. class door: once students cross it, they have to speak in French only #langchat | ||
15 | louvre2012 | 9/29/11 | 8:05 PM | Oui...c'est magique! #langchat | ||
16 | sylviaduckworth | 9/29/11 | 8:06 PM | If they speak in Eng. by mistake, they have to recross "La ligne magique". We also use "billets" as rewards to speaking Fr. only #langchat | ||
17 | tmsaue1 | 9/29/11 | 8:06 PM | VanPatten gave some great advice on comprehensible input at #kwla11 this weekend. #langchat | ||
18 | louvre2012 | 9/29/11 | 8:06 PM | Yes, kids can get quite frustrated but it does work. #Langchat | ||
19 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:06 PM | @tmsaue1 How much TL speaking goes on in the average language classrooom (beginning)? #langchat | ||
20 | senoralopez | 9/29/11 | 8:06 PM | You have to begin the year showing students how important learning another language is. #langchat | ||
21 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:07 PM | @senoralopez What are some ways you show your students how important learning the TL is? #langchat | ||
22 | tmsaue1 | 9/29/11 | 8:07 PM | @CalicoTeach how much does or how much should? to me 90%+ from day one is the only way to go. #langchat | ||
23 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:07 PM | @sylviaduckworth Nice ideas. How much of your class is conducted in the TL? #langchat | ||
24 | NinaTanti1 | 9/29/11 | 8:07 PM | #langchat Don't be afraid of using lots of antics and drama, and appearing "silly" | ||
25 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:07 PM | @tmsaue1 Please share the wisdom you gained at #kwla11 #langchat | ||
26 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:08 PM | @tmsaue1 Both are valid questions. I love the 90% goal. What is the reality for teachers? How do we reach our goal? Comfortable? #langchat | ||
27 | sylviaduckworth | 9/29/11 | 8:08 PM | For L2 only in the class, you have to provide students with the proper vocab. to be able to do that, so theme-base vocab not good #langchat | ||
28 | SraSpanglish | 9/29/11 | 8:08 PM | Set aside more time for lessons than you did before...#langchat | ||
29 | NinaTanti1 | 9/29/11 | 8:08 PM | #langchat Yes, they tell us 90 % , according to ACTFL... | ||
30 | suarez712002 | 9/29/11 | 8:08 PM | we need to clarify what immersion is: sts become prof in the language but also master the content area taught through the TL#langchat | ||
31 | NinaTanti1 | 9/29/11 | 8:09 PM | RT @tmsaue1: That means you dance, sing, draw, mime, show videos about five words for the first couple of days. #langchat YUP! | ||
32 | suarez712002 | 9/29/11 | 8:09 PM | @tmsaue1 that's the thing ..it requires a LOT OF CAREFUL PLANNING #langchat | ||
33 | SraSpanglish | 9/29/11 | 8:09 PM | @sylviaduckworth questce que cest ligne magiqur? #langchat | ||
34 | senoralopez | 9/29/11 | 8:09 PM | I spend two days discussing and showing videos of why learn another language. I then discuss the negative view of #langchat | ||
35 | tmsaue1 | 9/29/11 | 8:09 PM | It took me four years (8 semesters) to get there, but students results made me a believer. #langchat | ||
36 | sylviaduckworth | 9/29/11 | 8:09 PM | We use 100% L2 in the class, teachers and students #langchat | ||
37 | tmsaue1 | 9/29/11 | 8:09 PM | That means you dance, sing, draw, mime, show videos about five words for the first couple of days. #langchat | ||
38 | suarez712002 | 9/29/11 | 8:09 PM | @CalicoTeach @tmsaue1 90% TL at least!!!#langchat | ||
39 | suarez712002 | 9/29/11 | 8:10 PM | @CalicoTeach @tmsaue1 WL teachers should videotape their classes and see how much L2 they use #langchat | ||
40 | sylviaduckworth | 9/29/11 | 8:10 PM | La ligne magique is just an imaginary line students cross when they come into class. English in the hall, French in the class #langchat | ||
41 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:10 PM | @suarez712002 Do you teach a content area specifically or are you mostly focused on TL? #langchat | ||
42 | senoralopez | 9/29/11 | 8:10 PM | learning a language. I let them know that I wish I could speak more languages. You are considered smart. I then have #langchat | ||
43 | louvre2012 | 9/29/11 | 8:10 PM | I try to use it 90% + but break into English when conflicts arise. So hard for them to problem solve in French. #Langchat | ||
44 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:10 PM | @SraSpanglish Do you mean more time for planning or for implementing lessons? #langchat | ||
45 | senoralopez | 9/29/11 | 8:11 PM | I have 3 great videos on my blog. www.lopezespanol.weebly.com #langchat | ||
46 | tmsaue1 | 9/29/11 | 8:11 PM | Teacher's story (she uses 100%): S of her saw her talking in the hallway to another teacher. S said: "You do speak normal." #langchat | ||
47 | suarez712002 | 9/29/11 | 8:11 PM | @CalicoTeach I'm not an immersion teacher,,,at the end of the day I'm the lang teacher #langchat | ||
48 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:11 PM | RT @suarez712002: @CalicoTeach @tmsaue1 WL teachers should videotape their classes and see how much L2 they use #langchat | ||
49 | senoralopez | 9/29/11 | 8:11 PM | them create posters of why they are learning a language. #langchat | ||
50 | sylviaduckworth | 9/29/11 | 8:12 PM | I have a blog too with videos showing 100% L2 in the class: http://t.co/EDgtaJYP password: aimlanguage #langchat | ||
51 | tmsaue1 | 9/29/11 | 8:12 PM | @suarez712002 good lang teachers "steal" from immersion teachers by creating content-based classes in TL #langchat | ||
52 | sylviaduckworth | 9/29/11 | 8:12 PM | L2 teachers need to stop teaching dry grammar/verb conjugations and teach words students need to communicate with eachother #langchat | ||
53 | tmsaue1 | 9/29/11 | 8:13 PM | Make sure that students understand what will happen to them. Let them know it's ok if they don't understand. #langchat | ||
54 | SraSpanglish | 9/29/11 | 8:13 PM | Also, chunk stuff in smaller bites #langchat | ||
55 | louvre2012 | 9/29/11 | 8:13 PM | As a former Immersion teacher, I apply the same techniques to L2 #Langchat. | ||
56 | senoralopez | 9/29/11 | 8:13 PM | Also, students need to work with each other and teachers are responsible for recreating authentic "tasks" in the classroom #langchat | ||
57 | BevSymons | 9/29/11 | 8:13 PM | #langchat My littles in Gr 1 Fr Immer have no Fr. bkgd at all. I start bilingual + gestures. Lots of songs. 6 hrs too long. Transition Oct | ||
58 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:13 PM | So what are the key things we do to ensure students are comfortable, or to make them more comfortable with TL? #LangChat | ||
59 | senoralopez | 9/29/11 | 8:14 PM | You have to supply them with vocabulary and more vocabulary. I have them define vocab words in the target language. No english #langchat | ||
60 | sylviaduckworth | 9/29/11 | 8:14 PM | My students don't think I can speak English, so they need to speak Fr. to me so that I understand! #langchat | ||
61 | profesorM | 9/29/11 | 8:14 PM | I use as much as poss. My ss look at me like deer in the headlights. I play spanish music during Hagan Ahora to get in the mood. #langchat | ||
62 | suarez712002 | 9/29/11 | 8:14 PM | @CalicoTeach @sraspanglish both, but it is key to have goals, what do we want sts to do at the end of the lesson, unit, year #langchat | ||
63 | SraSpanglish | 9/29/11 | 8:14 PM | @tmsaue1 sorry, i can't handle that much (yet?) #langchat | ||
64 | senoralopez | 9/29/11 | 8:15 PM | model, model, model everything so they now what is expected #langchat | ||
65 | BevSymons | 9/29/11 | 8:15 PM | #langchat Use Wendy Maxwell's "Petite Poule Rouge" in Sept. They are performing and reading in October :-) | ||
66 | sylviaduckworth | 9/29/11 | 8:15 PM | @SraSpanglish Disagree with what? #langchat | ||
67 | SraSpanglish | 9/29/11 | 8:15 PM | @sylviaduckworth my problem is that other teachers who might get my sts later disagree #langchat | ||
68 | placido | 9/29/11 | 8:15 PM | yesterday I did a cooking demo, talking as I showed, then we discussed the steps I took! Fun! #langchat | ||
69 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:15 PM | @BevSymons Welcome. So for you the key is music, gestures and enough L1 to ensure they stay engaged in the class? #langchat | ||
70 | Watermelonworks | 9/29/11 | 8:15 PM | @CalicoTeach I keep asking my students questions so they engage. Simple step by step and the light goes on #langchat | ||
71 | placido | 9/29/11 | 8:16 PM | AMEN! @sylviaduckworth:need to stop teaching dry grammar/verb conjugations and teach words stdnts need to commncate with eachother #langchat | ||
72 | fravan | 9/29/11 | 8:16 PM | The hard thing for me is letting-go of the traditional pacing. it is Oct 1st, I need to be on page 101. #langchat | ||
73 | suarez712002 | 9/29/11 | 8:16 PM | @tmsaue1 very useful to tell sts why we use the TL most of the time which for me is SOOO obvious but for some kids it's not #langchat | ||
74 | tmsaue1 | 9/29/11 | 8:16 PM | WINNING! RT @sylviaduckworth: My students dont think I can speak English, so they need to speak Fr. to me so that I understand! #langchat | ||
75 | profesorM | 9/29/11 | 8:16 PM | I also give an expression of the week to encourage conv #langchat | ||
76 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:17 PM | RT @suarez712002: very useful to tell sts why we use the TL most of the time; For me is SOOO obvious but for some kids it's not #langchat | ||
77 | sylviaduckworth | 9/29/11 | 8:17 PM | Every interaction I have with students: in hall, playground, coaching, in community... is in French #langchat | ||
78 | suarez712002 | 9/29/11 | 8:17 PM | @placido @sylviaduckworth yes and words that are meaningful to a particular st #langchat | ||
79 | msfrenchteach | 9/29/11 | 8:17 PM | Hello! I think I do the 90%+ L2 better this yr than ever b4. How? I speak L2 to ss even when they speak Eng. It reminds them. #langchat | ||
80 | louvre2012 | 9/29/11 | 8:18 PM | Yes, for those of us with a classroom..creating an only french milieu is much easier. #langchat | ||
81 | tmsaue1 | 9/29/11 | 8:18 PM | It's much easier to stay in TL, if your class is structured around conversational activities. #langchat | ||
82 | senoralopez | 9/29/11 | 8:18 PM | @fravan we have to stop thinking this way. #langchat | ||
83 | msfrenchteach | 9/29/11 | 8:18 PM | My walls have no English on them. That helps w/the immersion-style class, too. #langchat | ||
84 | MmeNero | 9/29/11 | 8:18 PM | Salut tout le monde! #langchat | ||
85 | louvre2012 | 9/29/11 | 8:18 PM | Think, pair, share technique works well...gets the kids talking with eachother . #langchat | ||
86 | tmsaue1 | 9/29/11 | 8:18 PM | @fravan says who? #langchat | ||
87 | Teacheronthemic | 9/29/11 | 8:19 PM | @losangelista @chew20x @writersgrind Check the new track from Low-T, "Write What You Know" #hiphoped #edchat #langchat http://t.co/hKFyGPjI | ||
88 | senoralopez | 9/29/11 | 8:19 PM | As flteachers we have to stop giving fill in the blank tests and create authentic performance assessments so the sts know #langchat | ||
89 | profesorM | 9/29/11 | 8:19 PM | I try to have them do at least 1 convo act per class. #langchat | ||
90 | CalicoTeach | 9/29/11 | 8:19 PM | @fravan How do you modify the pace as you teach in L2? #langchat | ||
91 | sylviaduckworth | 9/29/11 | 8:19 PM | @louvre2012 True. Having your own class makes it so much easier for the L2 teacher #langchat | ||
92 | BevSymons | 9/29/11 | 8:19 PM | #langchat - Diference betwn 40 min core Fr. vs initial full day immersion Same strategies but pacing to keep joy in class and self-esteem | ||
93 | placido | 9/29/11 | 8:19 PM | RT @tmsaue1: Its much easier to stay in TL, if your class is structured around conversational activities. #langchat | ||
94 | js_pasaporte | 9/29/11 | 8:19 PM | RT @tmsaue1: Its much easier to stay in TL, if your class is structured around conversational activities. #langchat | ||
95 | placido | 9/29/11 | 8:19 PM | I think 90% TL is a wonderful goal. 100% isn't realistic for me. #langchat | ||
96 | MmeNero | 9/29/11 | 8:19 PM | RT @tmsaue1: WINNING! RT @sylviaduckworth: My students dont think I can speak English, so they need to speak Fr. to me so that I understand! #langchat | ||
97 | sraoconnor | 9/29/11 | 8:20 PM | RT @senoralopez: As flteachers we have to stop giving fill in blank tests and create authentic performance assessments the sts know#langchat | ||
98 | senoralopez | 9/29/11 | 8:20 PM | @CalicoTeach yes i completely agree #langchat | ||
99 | fravan | 9/29/11 | 8:20 PM | @tmsaue1 That is what our curr guides say--this yr I am using 90% rule and am not using a book. Old habits die hard though #langchat | ||
100 | senoralopez | 9/29/11 | 8:20 PM | we will assess them on what they know. They have to be able to speak so the entire class has to be in TL. #langchat |