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BRIDGE(ing) the Gap: Leveraging technology in genetic services

Rachelle Chambers, MS, CGC

12/3/2025

Perlmutter Cancer Center

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Disclosure: This work was supported by National Cancer Institute, National Institutes of Health, U01CA23282603-S1 and U24CA204800�

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Objectives

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  • Review the BRIDGE study and the development of chatbots for genetics education

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  • Describe the process, challenges and opportunities of automated algorithms for identifying patients who are eligible for hereditary cancer testing

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  • Describe the role of engagement with the health care system in patients’ response and receptiveness to outreach about genetic service

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Perlmutter Cancer Center

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Current State of Genetic Testing, Counseling & Services (in the US)

Perlmutter Cancer Center

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Advances in technology

Breakthroughs in Genomic Precision Medicine

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Cost

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public awareness & interest

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Increased demand

Exponential growth

Institutional awareness

Genetic counseling/ testing

- Time intensive

- Complex

- Manual

- Precise

Bottlenecks, wait times, patient impact, non-genetic provider shift, etc.

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Utilization of technology in Genetic Services

Goal: Leverage technology to develop sustainable and scalable workflows to enhance accessibility, efficiency, and impact of genetic counseling and testing services.

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Maintain high quality of patient care & empower patients and providers

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Technology currently utilized in healthcare systems to streamline care

  • Identification of at-risk patients
  • Pre- and post test genetic education and return of results (ROR)
  • Integration of genomic testing in the EHR
  • High risk patient navigation & management

Perlmutter Cancer Center

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Automated tools/strategies in genetics services

As of 2023, 87 digital tools for providing some aspect of genetic services

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International Cancer Syndrome Consortium (ICSC)

Convened to describe, demonstrate and compare digital tools for delivering genetic services

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Domain 1:

Tool Development

Domain 2: Process and context

Domain 3: Evaluation

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BRIDGE Study

Division/Department Name

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Division/Department Name

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Enhanced standard of care control arm

  • Outreach through patient portal
  • Standard of care genetic counseling

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Eligibility screening

Randomization

Chatbot intervention arm

  • Outreach through patient portal
  • Pre-test education and return of negative results by chatbot
  • Positive and VUS results returned by genetic counselor

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4-week questionnaire

Satisfaction with counseling and responses to results

12-month questionnaire

Adherence to clinical recommendations

Aim 3

Aim 2

Aim 1

Study design

N=445,910

  • 24 to 60 years old
  • UHealth or NYU

n=22,208 (5.0%)

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Division/Department Name

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Rules-based algorithm (clinical decision support)

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Population Health Management dashboard

Allows for managing patient contacts

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Chatbot

Scripted chatbot

Completed chats returned to EHR as a clinical encounter

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Del Fiol G et al. JCO Clin Cancer Inform 2020, Bradshaw RL J Am Med Inform Assoc 2022

GARDE-Genetic Cancer Risk Detector

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Script based on genetic counseling standard of care

All patients see core content

    • Can select options for additional content

Natural language processing allows patients to ask questions

    • Scripted bank of responses

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Chatbot approach

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Chatbot approach

  • Patients indicate interest in testing at end of pre-test chat

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  • Follow up with genetic counseling assistant

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Enhanced standard of care control arm

  • Outreach through patient portal
  • Standard of care genetic counseling

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Eligibility screening

Randomization

Chatbot intervention arm

  • Outreach through patient portal
  • Pre-test education and return of negative results by chatbot
  • Positive and VUS results returned by genetic counselor

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Aim 2

Aim 1

Study design

Primary outcomes

  • Completing pre-test genetic services
  • Completing genetic testing
  • Hypotheses of equivalence

Secondary outcomes

  • Starting pre-test genetic services
  • Ordering genetic testing
  • Hypotheses of equivalence

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BRIDGE Outcomes

Chatbot intervention

N=1554

1017 (69%)

481 (31%)

400 (26%)

233 (15%)

Total: 13% tested

Enhanced Standard of Care

N=1519

1023 (67%)

444 (29%)

361 (24%)

275 (18%)

Total: 14% tested

Open portal message

Started/Scheduled

Completed

Ordered test

Test complete

Kaphingst KA et al. JAMA Netw Open 2024

CITY OF HOPE

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Identification of high-risk patients

Division/Department Name

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ALGORITHM CRITERIA – BREAST CANCER (GARDE)

  • FHx of BRCA1/2, CHEK2, ATM, PALB2, TP53, PTEN, CDH1, Cowden syndrome, or Li-Fraumeni syndrome
  • 1st or 2nd degree relative with breast cancer AND age of onset < 45
  • 1st or 2nd degree relative with ovarian OR pancreatic cancer
  • Three or more 1st or 2nd relatives with breast or prostate cancer on same side of family
  • Breast cancer in a male 1st or 2nd degree relative
  • Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry and any family member with breast, ovarian, prostate, or pancreatic cancer

*Adapted from NCCN guidelines for breast cancer risk reduction

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Automated patient identification through the EHR�

  • Scale
  • Timeframe
  • Required no change to primary care workflows
  • Process fully integrated into the EHR

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Division/Department Name

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Patients meeting criteria based on EHR data�

Division/Department Name

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Demographics

NYU Population

NYU Criteria

Utah Population

Utah Criteria

Met >1 NCCN family hx criteria

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6%

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4%

Female

57%

74%

64%

84%

Male

43%

26%

36%

16%

White

55%

65%

71%

80%

Black

13%

9%

3%

1%

Asian

6%

4%

5%

2%

Hispanic

1%

1.5%

14%

11%

English preferred language

89%

96%

92%

97%

Spanish preferred language

6%

2%

5%

2%

Age (Mean)

43

44

40

41

Chavez-Yenter D et al. JAMA Netw Open 2022

Disparities in family history collection

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Disparities in family history collection�

Division/Department Name

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Availability of any family history information

Availability of cancer family history information

Availability of age of onset

Availability of type of cancer

Availability of type of relative

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EHR family history vs. Population-based data�

133,764 Utah primary care patients also in the UPDB

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Patient with more family information available, more likely to meet criteria

Del Fiol G et al. JCO Clinical Cancer Informatics 2025

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Criteria met by algorithm�

Most people meet criteria due to a relative with ovarian or pancreatic cancer, regardless of family size

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Complex criteria, particularly Lynch syndrome/polyposis, are difficult to identify

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Machine learning

Data driven

Can handle complex relationships that are hard to express in a “rule”

Have been used for screening for familial hypercholesterolemia in the EHR, less so for hereditary cancer

Rules-based algorithms

“if-then” rules

Natural language processing minimal

Difficult to account for context, limited information, and uncertainty

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Rules-based algorithms vs. Machine learning/AI

Harris WR J Am Med Inform Assoc 2025, Bradshaw RL, et al. J Biomed Inform 2024

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Patient Engagement

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BRIDGE Outcomes

Chatbot intervention

N=1554

1017 (69%)

481 (31%)

400 (26%)

233 (15%)

Total: 13% tested

Enhanced Standard of Care

N=1519

1023 (67%)

444 (29%)

361 (24%)

275 (18%)

Total: 14% tested

Open portal message

Started/Scheduled

Completed

Ordered test

Test complete

Kaphingst KA et al. JAMA Netw Open 2024

CITY OF HOPE

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Patient Engagement

Zhong L, et al Health Serv Res 2025, Bather JR Health Lit Res Pract 2025

Predictors of opening a portal message and starting genetic services

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Number of previous portal logins

Having a recorded primary care provider

More primary care visits in the previous 3 years

Low socioeconomic vulnerability*

Factors that did not impact opening a portal message or starting genetics services

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Most sociodemographic characteristics

  • Age
  • Race
  • Ethnicity
  • Urbanity

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Clinical characteristics

Intervention arm

*2018–2022 American Community Survey 5-year estimates

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Summary and Future Direction

  • Chatbot tools can be a core strategy to improve access to genetic counselling services and testing
  • Clinical decision support tools and other technology are available to streamline the identification process, genetic education/testing, support providers, and navigate high-risk patients in healthcare systems
  • However, there are complexities to these tools and more research is needed to understand the impact of technology on access and health care disparities

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Saundra Buys, MD

Huntsman Cancer Institute

Kimberly Kaphingst, ScD

Huntsman Cancer Institute

Meenakshi Sigireddi, MD

NYU Langone Health

Primary Care

Mike Flynn, MD

University of Utah

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Rachel Hess, MD

University of Utah

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Biomedical Informatics

Guilherme Del Fiol, MD, PhD

University of Utah

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Ken Kawamoto, MD, PhD, MHS

University of Utah

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Rick Bradshaw, PhD, MS

University of Utah

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Devin Mann, MD, MS

New York University

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Javier Gonzalez

New York University

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Broadening the Reach, Impact, and Delivery of Genetic Services

Advisory Board

Kola Okuyemi, MD

University of Utah

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Will Dere, MD

University of Utah

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Jeff Botkin, MD

University of Utah

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John Barrett, MD

University of Utah

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Neli Ulrich, PhD

Huntsman Cancer Institute

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Jessica Everett, MS, CGC

New York University

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Genetics

Research Team

Rachel Monahan

Perlmutter Cancer Center

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Molly Volkmar

Huntsman Cancer Institute

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Lauren Kaiser-Jackson

Huntsman Cancer Institute

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Melody Goodman, PhD

New York University

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Jemar Bather, PhD

New York University

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Adrian Harris, MS

New York University

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Daniel Chavez-Yenter, MPH

University of Utah

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NCI U01CA232826

Wendy Kohlmann, MS, CGC

Huntsman Cancer Institute

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Rachelle Chambers, MS, CGC

NYU Langone Health

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Sang Lee

NYU Langone Health

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Amanda Gammon, MS, CGC

Huntsman Cancer Institute

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Sarah Colonna, MD

Huntsman Cancer Institute

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Josh Schiffman, MD

Huntsman Cancer Institute

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Contact:Rachelle.Chambers@nyulangone.org

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Perlmutter Cancer Center

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