Going Dotty
Assessment Strategies for the Overworked
Sarah Ping CPsychol
Notre Dame High School, Norwich
Henry Williams the Oxford philosopher summed the problem �up very well ��‘furious activity is no substitute for learning’ �
The thoughts in my head – how do I assess?
Notre Dame High School, Norwich
I’m slightly fearful that this might be your response at the end of this session….
But I am fortified by the words of Tom Sherrington from a post of his in 2022
Grandmothers and Sucking Eggs. It doesn’t have to be patronising… – teacherhead
“If teachers are skeptical or cynical about being presented with ideas in CPD, it might well be because they’ve been burned too many times with egg-sucking presentations.”
So starting with the obvious - Feedback
What do students do with written feedback?
“I often give it a glance over when I first receive it, but hardly ever go back to it”
“I keep all feedback but rarely look at it after the day I receive it despite good intentions.”
(Nash & Winstone, 2017)
Students’ engagement with feedback
Boud & Molloy (2013)
“Information does not act automatically, it has to be processed by learners and they have to decide whether to act upon it”
Irwin et al. (2013)
“If students cannot remember their feedback when doing future assessments, it would be difficult to use it to improve performance on those assessments”
Your students probably forget most of your feedback.
Sorry about that.
All the super *feed-forward* that you write for your students is SUPER forgettable.
My condolences.
Nash’s Concluding thoughts from that lecture…
When recalling advice, people often focus on retrieving ‘criticism’, which means they fail to search their memories thoroughly.
This may be because of a maladaptive “advice schema”�
Explicitly prompting people can get them to remember feedback more fully. But… perhaps only if they can clear their minds of ‘criticism’ first!
Concluding thoughts…
Recent research!
20th March 2024
Summary of Introduction
Findings from the 2024 research�
Future Time Perspective Theory
From the research published in March this year Nash suggests that…
Interestingly, this chimes with what I’ve been doing in my classroom modifying my assessment techniques
What assessment am I talking about today
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Homework tasks
Homework task 1 – notes from a video
Why videos?
Problems with Homework 1
Homework 2 - Seneca
Problems with Seneca
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Peer marking – what is it good for?
Peer Marking technique one – Short answer questions as part of class work
Peer Marking technique two - assessments
My thoughts on peer assessment
Dot Marking
Dot marking – practical bits
I asked my students what they thought
That was a bit disappointing if I’m honest, but this was after mocks when they hadn’t marked the exams
But…..
Comments on Peer Marking |
You can see how other students approached a question |
I find that when students mark other students’ questions, there is a lack of effort and so sometimes feedback received isn’t very helpful. |
its not our job to mark other peoples work so we don't have the knowledge or experience to give good criticisms. |
Obviously being a student, marking other students work comes with the risk that I may not have all the knowledge required to judge someone else's efforts |
It varies a lot, I find it not as good as other marking strategies |
sometimes the person marking doesn't clearly state what was wrong with the answer |
I think its better for the teacher to mark our answers as they have knowledge of the subject more than the students and are familiar with exam marking skills |
Helps to know what the examiners are looking for with studying the mark scheme |
Peer marking's usefulness depends on the student |
We don’t have mark schemes so it’s hard to give feedback |
Hard to read handwriting and understand what some people mean but is helpful as it allows you to see what others have put. |
Peer marking isn’t as useful as teacher marking as it can be less reliable since, as students, we don’t have the same level of experience and knowledge as the teacher would, meaning we give less effective feedback |
It’s always difficult and is better for the teacher to give a definite answer on what we did wrong because peers may miss it |
Peer marking helps you learn the mark scheme but can be hard to give marks |
What has been the most useful thing about dot marking? |
Seeing how to improve |
clearly being able to see how strong my answers were but also having to figure out the correct myself so i didn’t just read the feedback and not really listen |
It is a clear and consistent method that makes seeing where to improve easy. It makes it easy to look back at previous questions and know what you need to improve |
Improving it ourselves |
Immediate feedback |
Understanding what grade level my answer is and being able to improve and understand where I lost marks. |
It is like teacher marking but much faster , while still allowing the discussion that comes with peer marking. |
Understanding what I’ve missed out in my answer and what could be improved. |
Personalised and clear feedback |
gives you an idea of what level you are at |
Being able to go through the answer quickly with the teacher and know what you get marks for in the answer for reattempts |
you get helpful feedback straight away |
Easy to see which level our answers fit in |
it’s a fun interactive way of trying out marking |
It shows what band you are currently at |
It's Simplicity |
Seeing where to improve. |
It is a simple and different way of indicating whether you answered a question well or not so well |
It means you can’t be caught up looking at just one question for too long |
Quick and shows where marks were awarded |
Getting individual feedback on the work |
It’s easy to see how I’m doing |
What has been the most difficult thing about dot marking? |
The time it takes to see everybody individually within the lesson |
not immediately knowing what i’ve done wrong to drop marks |
Sometimes not knowing how to improve |
Nothing. |
The time waiting for Ms Ping to mark everyone in the class and then come back to check |
Waiting for other people to get their answer marked before your own, as well as sometimes trying to figure out what is missing in your answer. |
Marking in lesson takes time |
not specific |
Short time window in which it happens |
waiting a long time for a teacher to mark your answer |
not sure |
finding tasks to do whilst miss ping is marking |
Not knowing exactly what went wrong and where exactly you sit on the boundary |
Not much specific feedback |
Hard to remember what’s been said. |
Sometimes it’s a little unclear in how to work on certain areas |
No elaboration or advice |
The time it takes and losing the rest of the lesson when it's done |
Not knowing an actual mark |
Would like a key each time |
Are there any other comments you'd like to make about assessment in psychology this year? |
n/a |
None. |
It has been very good |
Marking in Psychology has been the most accurate and positive in all three of the subjects I take, with members of staff being supportive, regardless of results that you receive. |
nah |
Can we do more test papers? |
I feel like our work very rarely gets marked🙁 |
It’s goid |
Hard |
No assessments were good |
Have I found the holy grail of assessment?
No, of course not
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Have I found new ways to assess students and not burnout with exhaustion?
Absolutely
Hopefully, I’ve given you a few ideas to try
And not eggs to suck
Thank you
Thank you