Discussion of propeller-assisted straight-downwind �land sailing faster than the wind
Alexander Kusenko
Why the Veritasium video was inconclusive
The Veritasium video: � https://youtu.be/jyQwgBAaBag�
Problems with the treadmill experiments
Willwacher et al, https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-81951-9
Effects of vibration (for small or zero thrust)
Vibrations, averaged over time scales >> period, contribute to the effective potential energy.�Example: inverted pendulum (link)
In the case of a standing wave,
The forward drift (0:00-0:53) and �equilibrium (from 0:53) could be �due to vibrations: inconclusive � https://youtu.be/7xL8gRJ5F6k
If it’s a “fan”, not “wind turbine” (powered by wheels alone)
In the ground frame of reference, energy conservation implies that the power delivered to the propeller equals the power expanded by the propeller:
Solve for the thrust:
�Newton’s 2nd Law:
negative
However, there is additional power from a “wind turbine”
When the car is moving faster than the wind, the passing air pushes the propeller in the same direction as the wheels push it. This has been a subject of discussion, and Blackbird has a ratchet to prevent the propeller from actively spinning the wheels, but the ratchet does not keep the propeller’s wind power from spinning the propeller itself, adding the torque in the same direction as the wheels.
When the car moves faster than both the air and the ground, the two media drive the propeller together. The total power delivered to the propeller is:
This alters the energy budget and allows sailing �faster than the wind.�
The added power from a “wind turbine” increases the thrust
Comments on some other solutions
The wager
Technically, my wager with Derek Muller stated as part of the claim that “the propeller works like a fan rather than a wind turbine”, which is incorrect. The propeller acts as both a fan and a turbine, and the power is contributed by both moving media in a somewhat symmetrical manner. Also, the video falls short of providing evidence that the motion faster than the wind occurs with a non-negative acceleration and that it is not caused by the wind variability.
However, I would not attempt to haggle over a technicality. I have stated that I deserve to win only if I am right in all of my claims, which was not the case. �(Professors don’t deserve a partial credit.)
Therefore, I concede the wager.
I thank all the people who looked at this problem and contributed to the discussion.